Major predictions for episode 3 choices

Episode 2 was great in my opinion.
Now while we wait for episode 3 let us get some predictions :)
My major prediction:
Episode will have a branching structure

If you left Harley behind in episode 2 - John will want to help her escape custody, while Bane wants to procede with the Pact's plan (whatever that is). You must choose what to do. Waller will want you to rescue Harley, because that will distract the Pact from their major goal. This option will also earn you John's approval, but you will lose trust of the Pact (because rescue mission will delay their major plan). If tou choose not to help Harley, John will be furious. You will actually see him becoming more like the Joker. You, Bane and Freeze will procede with the Pact's major plan, but at the crucial moment it will be sabotaged by a vengeful John.

If you left Bane behind in episode 2 - same thing happens. Freeze will want to go back and rescue Bane, because he is afraid of his revenge. Harley on the other hand says to forget him and procede with the Pact's major plan. We are given the same choice. If we go rescue Bane - the group is distracted from their plan and you lose Harley's trust and possibly John's. If we don't rescue him, the Pact's plan continues, only to be sabotaged at the crucial moment by a vengeful Bane. He escaped on his own and now wants his revenge on the group for abandoning him.

That is how the episode may play out on my opinion, depending on our previous choices and also on the choices made in the new episode.

Minor choices:
In the beginning of the episode, Catwoman will join the Pact. But before this, every member of the Pact has to vote in or out (just as with Bruce in episode 2). She will become a member no matter what, but you chooseing in or out may affect your reletionships with her

Also, this episode or episode 4 will feature a choice to reveal your identity to Tiffany (not outright say that you are Batman, but imply, she will understand everything without further explanation) and Gordon (although with Gordon i would like to see a scene where you are about to reveal your name to him or remove the cowl with him stoping you, because it does not matter to him)
Feel free to write down your predictions
Would love to read them!!!

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  • I don't think Waller would want us to lose the leader's trust. If might really blow Bruce's cover.

  • "while Bane wants to procede with the Pact's plan"
    

    It doesn't matter who we are. All that matters is our plan. You should've respected my authority
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  • My idea is that you will lose trust either way. You can only choose whose trust you lose. If you go after Harley, Bane and Freeze won't like that, but John will. If you don't, John will be furious, while Bane and Freeze will trust you a bit more. And if Bane is imprisoned and you rescue him Harley won't be too impressed and John too. But if you won't rescue him, Freeze will be suspicious about your motives, but John and Harley will trust you completely. That is a cool branching path.
    About Waller... she will want you to rescue the prisoner because doing so will distract the Pact from their major goal - destroying the Agency. She will be willing to risk her men's lifes (we already know that) and Bruce being distrusted by some if it delays the Pact's overall goal.

    I don't think Waller would want us to lose the leader's trust. If might really blow Bruce's cover.

  • Actually she values her men's lives. She won't risk them.

    She is much more likeable than she appears.

    What do you think they want Riddler's corpse for ? I can't wrap my head around that for some reason. It dovetails with my headcannon than we will see the Lazarus pit and Ra's/Talia.

    0v3rp0w3r posted: »

    My idea is that you will lose trust either way. You can only choose whose trust you lose. If you go after Harley, Bane and Freeze won't like

  • I've been thinking and I don't think we will have to rescue anyone, not with the revelation that Bane knows Wayne betrayed him. You can't bring him back and have him know that. You just can't. Bruce would be torn to shreds and Harley would certainly kill us as well.

    I think "a shot in the dark" refers to Batman working with either Harley or Bane to take their revenge.

  • Good point yeah
    I just thought that with the way John wanted to rescue Harley and Freeze fearing what Bane will do to them after he was abandoned that we will have to rescue the captured members. At least if you left Harley :)

    I've been thinking and I don't think we will have to rescue anyone, not with the revelation that Bane knows Wayne betrayed him. You can't br

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    I really have no idea. Like i get why Bane might want his body, because he views him as a legend and his "presence" might be symbolical to him. But both Bane and Harley imply that they need Riddler in order to procede on their path. I don't think they will revive him (at least i hope they won't, i like things to be as realistic as possible), he might have left some kind of crucial information for the Pact's plan in the form of a riddle, so that nobody will get rid of him before their goal is accomplished. But he was killed early (by John, my guess) and now they need him, because he might have an answer to this riddle on him, so that the Pact can continue with their plan.

    Actually she values her men's lives. She won't risk them. She is much more likeable than she appears. What do you think they want Ridd

  • On second thought, i agree. She values her men' lifes (tge end of the episode). It's just that she always talks that we should do whatever it takes to stop the Pact, so i thought she might cut a few corners and make some sacrifices for the greater good

    Actually she values her men's lives. She won't risk them. She is much more likeable than she appears. What do you think they want Ridd

  • And that could be a tense choice between saving Agency people (including Avesta) or following Waller's orders.

    0v3rp0w3r posted: »

    On second thought, i agree. She values her men' lifes (tge end of the episode). It's just that she always talks that we should do whatever i

  • I think Harley will try to seduce Bruce and there will be a choice to bang her or not. If you do then John finds out, this leads to him becoming more evil and villainous, aka clown Prince Joker. If you don't then Harley becomes the more villainous one and becomes even more evil/Bratty.

    I think there will be a choice to reveal our identities to Tiffany as well as Gordon.

    If we are 100% honest with Tiffany then she can become Batgirl.

  • Yeah that could be interesting

    And that could be a tense choice between saving Agency people (including Avesta) or following Waller's orders.

  • Well Harley Quinn does have an interest in Bruce Wayne. John Doe says something along lines of Harley and him having a long conversation about how lame Bruce was and that that was the longest conversation they ever had. Implying that perhaps John is mad at Bruce and jealous of him that he is lying to try and get Bruce to stay away from Harley but also implying that Harley is in love with Bruce Wayne. As we see in this version of Harley she is not all over John like Harley Quinn from the animated series or the Arkham games. So maybe Bruce and Harley will have a romantic relationship.

    I think Tiffany will become Batgirl, because she does in the comics.

    I always felt that Gordon always knew Bruce Wayne was Batman but refused to believe it. If I recall correctly Gordan states this in a comic.

    Also what if this version of Joker doesn't care about Batman and instead is obsessed with Bruce because he knows that he is Batman. Could make for some crazy twists and problems for Bruce Wayne.

    I think Harley will try to seduce Bruce and there will be a choice to bang her or not. If you do then John finds out, this leads to him beco

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    Am I the only one that thinks that the achievement called "In the line of duty" implies to Gordon getting killed?

  • I don't think Bruce's dick holds so much power that getting or not getting it could turn someone evil. :p

    I think Harley will try to seduce Bruce and there will be a choice to bang her or not. If you do then John finds out, this leads to him beco

  • Tell that to Harvey Dent lol

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I don't think Bruce's dick holds so much power that getting or not getting it could turn someone evil.

  • But I am kind of worried about Alfred.

    Let's hope not...

  • If TellTale kills off Alfred it will be a very sad moment considering he was more of Bruce's father than Thomas. Thomas and Bruce are biologically related but Alfred was the one who raised him into the man that he is now. Now this has me thinking what if Alfred somehow becomes a villain with the post traumatic stress disorder he seems to have? Alfred as a villain would be a pretty unique twist.

    But I am kind of worried about Alfred.

  • Unfortunately this fits this claim :

    "There are key characters who are going to die this season,” teases O'Connor."

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/3/16085818/telltale-batman-game-season-2-interview-preview

  • It'll be really sad if Gordon or Alfred gets killed, but if they pulled it off well it would make this season so much more emotional than it already is.

    If Gordon dies, Batman loses so much of his support, a loyal friend, and one of the men he most respects.

    If Alfred dies, Bruce loses his father figure, a steadfast friend, and the one and only person who has always been there for him. If Alfred dies, Bruce will be alone because Lucius is already dead.
    He'll have to pull some more people into his small circle, probably Tiffany.

  • I think she is just messing with Bruce. Trying to make him lose his balance.

    Though her comments when you are in the HQ are....surprising. "You are not the others".

    I wonder.

    Well Harley Quinn does have an interest in Bruce Wayne. John Doe says something along lines of Harley and him having a long conversation abo

  • I'm betting good money on Jim Gordon dying. Alfred probably not, he is too central to Bruce's operations. Without him I'm not even sure a Batman is even possible.

    I think Catwoman could also die if you betray her and feed her to the wolves (the Agency).

    It'll be really sad if Gordon or Alfred gets killed, but if they pulled it off well it would make this season so much more emotional than it

  • Thomas may be his father but he ain't his daddy

    If TellTale kills off Alfred it will be a very sad moment considering he was more of Bruce's father than Thomas. Thomas and Bruce are biolog

  • Ooh. Yeah, Catwoman is a possibility too.

    I'm betting good money on Jim Gordon dying. Alfred probably not, he is too central to Bruce's operations. Without him I'm not even sure a Ba

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    I have feeling if it's Gordon or Catwoman who dies I wonder if that plays out Bruce in a more emotional point in his life has Batman,I mean if this was movie a death can effect a point to where it may lead to how much Bruce wants vengeance on the people who did it. (Possible the Pact does it or maybe Bane)and if that happens I wonder how much the story changes to a more like which mask we wear?

    Also on a side note I think tragedy plays a BIG role into either love and romance. I mean if Catwoman dies depending on a MAJOR choice having to do with saving Iman or Selina? Then I guess that effects a line of love between which character we find more interesting and care for in that episode 3. I guess episode 4 plays a part after that MAJOR choice we decide on who we are saving. I don't think the Agency will kill Selina,I think it plays more into who kills her like Bane(depending on your choice in second episode). It makes it look like a interesting choice and it fits more into how far Batman can keep his code in taking down a criminal.

    Will Batman go for vengeance and break his code after deciding who to save? Iman or Selina? I think it plays more into I will save Iman and the effect of losing Selina(cause I romanced her in the first season and left has friends) will effect a lost and pain of losing someone. BTW In the fourth episode I think romance happens BIG time leading up to the finale in Season 2 where we face off Bane maybe or maybe in the fourth it happens. That's just what I think could happen. This is a achievement that says "In the line of duty"

    Also BTW I have a feeling we will have conversation with both Catwoman and Iman Avesta and knowing more about them in this episode(especially Iman Avesta).

    Ooh. Yeah, Catwoman is a possibility too.

  • Sort of like how you had to choose between saving Selina or Harvey in season one?

    That's a real possibility. If that happens, I'll definitely save Iman.

    Surely someone else will die. Lucius Fox has died, and that was definitely sad and a motivating factor for Bruce, but if someone else died on top of Lucius, I think it would really push him farther. Who knows where that could lead?

    Grrrr... Episode three seems so far away haha. I must learn more patience.

    strwar3 posted: »

    I have feeling if it's Gordon or Catwoman who dies I wonder if that plays out Bruce in a more emotional point in his life has Batman,I mean

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    Yeah but I think in that choice in the first season was interesting,but this effects actual lost and pain. I mean Bruce losing his parents and Lucius Fox and depending on who you save in this episode 3 Iman or Selina? Effects him even more in this season 2 and it makes look more like a movie(which I LOVE in this season 2) because Telltale is doing a great job.

    Yeah saving Iman will make the romance even more happen(not in this episode maybe in the fourth episode it happens) cause we saved her once(depending if people saved her from getting deaf or not)and saving her again makes it possible cause this her crush she has on and she came to see Batman.Also spoiler if nobody still haven't played the second episode(I don't know why not)she knows Bruce is batman and she is still helping him and I think Bruce trusts her and that probably happens more in this episode 3.

    Yup patience is key to waiting for possible romance between them.BTW I forgot if you save Selina it will effect your romance with her(if you still want romance still) in the fourth episode.

    Sort of like how you had to choose between saving Selina or Harvey in season one? That's a real possibility. If that happens, I'll defini

  • Yeah, if they have us choose between saving Selina or Iman, and it's a life and death situation with one of them dying, it'll be a much larger decision than saving Harvey or Selina in season one. It would be interesting if they made the stakes high like that.

    I don't want romance with Selina. She's a friend, and I want what's best for her (even if what's best is a cell in Blackgate Prison), but I'm not at all interested in continuing a romance with her. She played Bruce, Harvey, and helped Lady Arkham. Selina is not a good person (she could be if she wanted to be).

    strwar3 posted: »

    Yeah but I think in that choice in the first season was interesting,but this effects actual lost and pain. I mean Bruce losing his parents a

  • Yeah I know about what Selina did. I'm talking about if people want Selina romance(not me) want it still

    Yeah, if they have us choose between saving Selina or Iman, and it's a life and death situation with one of them dying, it'll be a much larg

  • I don't Selina will die. At first I thought that the "In the line of Duty" was about a choice to either save Waller or Gordon from getting killed but there is also an achievement called "What had to be done" in episode 5 and I think this will propably what Waller says to Batman after he kills someone

    strwar3 posted: »

    Yeah I know about what Selina did. I'm talking about if people want Selina romance(not me) want it still

  • You are definitely right in regards to Batman having to break his code. We can't fight this threat by being the good guy.
    Waller is right here.

    "What had to be done" happens in episode 4 by the way, not 5.

    Tasos_12io posted: »

    I don't Selina will die. At first I thought that the "In the line of Duty" was about a choice to either save Waller or Gordon from getting k

  • Yeah sorry. Maybe it could be a choice whether or not we can kill someone and if we don't it affects our relationship with Waller? Also, don't know if I want Jim to die. I mean he's propably the only person that I actually would mind dying in regards to good guys. Hell, I wouldn't even mind if Alfred died. But Gordon dying in a random shot-out is just a bad direction to go. Jim needs to stay alive until the very end

    You are definitely right in regards to Batman having to break his code. We can't fight this threat by being the good guy. Waller is right here. "What had to be done" happens in episode 4 by the way, not 5.

  • Selina can be more helpful to describe it, you know? :D

    Tell that to Harvey Dent lol

  • I don't think Jim Gordon is gonna die. Like,I said it could be between Selina and Iman in episode 3

    Tasos_12io posted: »

    Yeah sorry. Maybe it could be a choice whether or not we can kill someone and if we don't it affects our relationship with Waller? Also, don

  • I'm wondering if Catwoman is there to support Bruce as another mole, and you have to figure out if you really trust her or not. Since Waller and Avesta know that Bruce is Batman, they'd also know that Bruce and Catwoman have a history, including a romantic history if you played it that way (which I did).

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    I doubt Selina is there to support Bruce, since she didn't seem to be expecting to find him there (though she didn't seem as surprised as Bruce was).

    She seems to be in with the Pact because they're paying her for a job, which fits with her motivations, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she's also working with Waller. She already proved that she can play a long con last season.

    How she's going to act around Bruce and treat him around the Pact will probably depend a lot on our choices with her last season.

    I'm wondering if Catwoman is there to support Bruce as another mole, and you have to figure out if you really trust her or not. Since Waller

  • Well a guy who claims to be a developer said that Gordon will die in a random shot-out. Of course it's just a rumor but that achievement really seems like some cop will die. Let's all wish for Jim to stay alive

    strwar3 posted: »

    I don't think Jim Gordon is gonna die. Like,I said it could be between Selina and Iman in episode 3

  • I anticipate Harley will try to eliminate what she sees as a rival (Selina) by sending her to a job she knows she won't get out of. We will have the choice of helping her but at the cost of our cover running thinner and thinner.

  • I think that Bane and Harley will ultimately get in a fight and we'll be able to choose who to help. If we choose nothing, a piano falls on Bruce so that he has to make a choice.

  • True, the story will ask us to make a choice between the two of them, again. Bane openly challenged her authority after all.

    HexIgon posted: »

    I think that Bane and Harley will ultimately get in a fight and we'll be able to choose who to help. If we choose nothing, a piano falls on Bruce so that he has to make a choice.

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