I Hope that they release it on the 360, I have a wii but it won't be able to pull something derived from that artwork well.
They could opt for a heavily stylized aesthetic and that could work incredibly well and do justice to the artwork. Just look at the likes of Murasma or Lost in Shadow.
Too many gamers this generation seem to be concerned with "the wii simply can not handle such and such because it lacks the power to do so". Would you not agree that FFX remains a stunning and wonderful game to this day thanks to the massive amount of time they spent developing the art style? And Resident Evil 4 upon the PS2 looked worse than Resident Evil 4 upon the Wii? Please await further information before allowing cynicism to win out every time.;)
Would you not agree that FFX remains a stunning and wonderful game to this day thanks to the massive amount of time they spent developing the art style?
I'd agree that FFX is one of the worst Japanese RPGs I've ever had the displeasure of trying to play. I curse its existence every day in the morning, and pray that it may never return at night, as though to ward off a wretched demon.
I'd agree that FFX is one of the worst Japanese RPGs I've ever had the displeasure of trying to play. I curse its existence every day in the morning, and pray that it may never return at night, as though to ward off a wretched demon.
Kingdom Hearts 2 kind of brought that into average Final Fantasy territory, which ruined it for me. The gameplay was still better than the average Japanese RPG(practically DEFINED by Square), but the story was ridden with this childish angst and the same tropes that hold together the plot of the modern Final Fantasy games. The high-fantasy older games are also childish, but in a more digestible way. Neither are "good" by my standards, though.
I haven't played many FF games since FF7, but I remember FF3 (or FF6 as it is called nowadays) tackling some heavy subjects, including suicide and losing a child. As far as Super Nintendo games goes, I'd say it's one of the more mature games on that system.
For RPGs, give me a Fallout 2 or an Arcanum any day.
There is no way Fallout 2 is a better game than the original. The setting was completely washed out, the plot was a thinner rehash of the original, and there are references thrown left and right without any concern for breaking the experience. It's still a good game, but miles beneath the first Fallout.
...the average Japanese RPG(practically DEFINED by Square)...
I think you're a bit off. Since you've referenced tropes, you'll understand this. JRPGs were pretty much defined by Enix; Square was more the one who codified the genre (particularly outside Japan). Of course, now they're one and the same, so I guess that makes Square-Enix the Trope Maker and the Trope Codifer...
There is no way Fallout 2 is a better game than the original. The setting was completely washed out, the plot was a thinner rehash of the original, and there are references thrown left and right without any concern for breaking the experience. It's still a good game, but miles beneath the first Fallout.
It VERY much depends on what you're looking for in a game's atmosphere. I can easily see why people would love the first Fallout a good deal more than the second, but I prefer the atmosphere of the second game.
Fallout 2 also looks nicer, is better for hand-to-hand combat at the start, has more and nicer animations, and it has so much more to do. Great for tooling around with only your personal goals as a character in mind. The original Fallout was definitely a tighter experience, which makes it better in some respects, but Fallout 2 always felt like what I always want an RPG to be.
I think you're a bit off. Since you've referenced tropes, you'll understand this. JRPGs were pretty much defined by Enix; Square was more the one who codified the genre (particularly outside Japan). Of course, now they're one and the same, so I guess that makes Square-Enix the Trope Maker and the Trope Codifer...
You're right, totally my error on that part. They've been together too long. =p
I suppose I'll continue my trend of making every other post in this thread. Sorry!
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WOW!
Okay, so they kept Oswald in black-and-white, which probably means he won't get a voice. But I'm looking at this and wondering if the creators aren't quite getting "mischievous" and "whimsical antagonism" for these characters and instead turning Mickey and Oswald into a couple of total dicks.
Reading through the "Scrapper" Mickey playthrough level, Mickey seems to act like an asshole just to be an asshole. Which, I mean, he DOES do a lot in 20s cartoons. But he sort of does it with an exuberance and a cheerfulness that I'm not seeing here. I'm just seeing a sort of vindictiveness to these characters, especially with the villainous look they gave to Oswald's character model.
This game kind of looks like what Disneyworld will look like after the apocalypse... Which seems like a REALLY dumb and REALLY awesome idea at the same time.
This game kind of looks like what Disneyworld will look like after the apocalypse... Which seems like a REALLY dumb and REALLY awesome idea at the same time.
Fallout: New Florida
Anyway, back on topic.
"Disney scared the pants off me when I was little. Disney needs to scare kids!" -Warren Spector
amazing...truly riveting,yet amazing.This game is going to have something no
other disney game has,I really like the whole idea.A dark world of evil disney.
I've read at least one thread on another board stating that Epic Mickey isn't all that epic and doesn't even deserve the title Epic.
Now before anybody also claims that here, I'll have to say that it is very possible that the "Epic" doesn't come from the fact that the game is epic, but and also that the story isn't epic, but that the story is probably anepic. Sans the big battles. More like an epic poetry or something, a sort of heroes song.
I like that they seem to be pulling the "dark" vibes from actual Disney-related stuff, as opposed to Kingdom Hearts, which is also dark, but in which most of the dark stuff is original stuff.
"Like" might not be the right word. There's just nothing interesting about it.
I dunno, I guess I can understand that perspective from somebody that has no interest in 1920s Mickey, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, or Spector. So far every bit of information about this game has gotten a pretty strong response from me, whether it's excitement or worry.
Posted that thread a day or so back. Do you post there?
No, an acquaintance simply linked me to the topic. Which I did in turn due to difficulties surrounding the posting of images here at Telltale(IE: the lack of size restrictions).
I dunno, I guess I can understand that perspective from somebody that has no interest in 1920s Mickey, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, or Spector. So far every bit of information about this game has gotten a pretty strong response from me, whether it's excitement or worry.
That's the thing. I know about Oswald and Spector, but it just looks bland. Like, as a game, it's got nothing interesting going for it despite the characters and sceneries. And even there, it's not as ground-breakingly dark as Warren first seemed to present it, which too is disappointing...
That's the thing. I know about Oswald and Spector, but it just looks bland. Like, as a game, it's got nothing interesting going for it despite the characters and sceneries. And even there, it's not as ground-breakingly dark as Warren first seemed to present it, which too is disappointing...
You are saying that when you know naught of the game nor what is involved other than a brief plot synopsis? Gaming would be enjoyable were it not for gamers.:rolleyes:
You are saying that when you know naught of the game nor what is involved other than a brief plot synopsis? Gaming would be enjoyable were it not for gamers.:rolleyes:
Calm down. Isn't an article like this supposed to interest? And what we got, in text and images, just deleted all of that interest for me.
You're amazingly cool, dude, but I'm not THAT much of a "hardcore gamer". I just don't find this interesting, that's all.
Calm down. Isn't an article like this supposed to interest? And what we got, in text and images, just deleted all of that interest for me.
Heh, I am not hyperventilating, so you need not worry. It is quite acceptable for Epic Mickey not to appeal to your particular gaming sensibilities, just so long as you are not writing it off prior to having any notable engagement with it.
I was reading that Game Informer article, and apparently there are basically 2 kinds of things in the game, "toon" things and "static" things, and the toon things are light and fluffy and you can affect them with your paint, and then static things are dark and gloomy and cannot be changed... so different images are going to have a different balance between light and dark, as you can basically affect that balance as you play
It is a concept from Warren Spector(of Deus Ex fame) and it is essentially Disney within a Dystopian Steampunk-esque setting. Thus far only concept art has been unearthed.
is that the epcot golf ball in the second one. this game could turn out great!
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Too many gamers this generation seem to be concerned with "the wii simply can not handle such and such because it lacks the power to do so". Would you not agree that FFX remains a stunning and wonderful game to this day thanks to the massive amount of time they spent developing the art style? And Resident Evil 4 upon the PS2 looked worse than Resident Evil 4 upon the Wii? Please await further information before allowing cynicism to win out every time.;)
Look at the gate near the huge monster thing's right hand.
But yeah, it was really pretty.
If this is true, I TOTALLY CALLED IT.
I freaking LOVE Oswald!
I am!
I haven't played many FF games since FF7, but I remember FF3 (or FF6 as it is called nowadays) tackling some heavy subjects, including suicide and losing a child. As far as Super Nintendo games goes, I'd say it's one of the more mature games on that system.
There is no way Fallout 2 is a better game than the original. The setting was completely washed out, the plot was a thinner rehash of the original, and there are references thrown left and right without any concern for breaking the experience. It's still a good game, but miles beneath the first Fallout.
I think you're a bit off. Since you've referenced tropes, you'll understand this. JRPGs were pretty much defined by Enix; Square was more the one who codified the genre (particularly outside Japan). Of course, now they're one and the same, so I guess that makes Square-Enix the Trope Maker and the Trope Codifer...
Fallout 2 also looks nicer, is better for hand-to-hand combat at the start, has more and nicer animations, and it has so much more to do. Great for tooling around with only your personal goals as a character in mind. The original Fallout was definitely a tighter experience, which makes it better in some respects, but Fallout 2 always felt like what I always want an RPG to be.
You're right, totally my error on that part. They've been together too long. =p
http://boards.theforce.net/games_videogames/b10005/30503186/
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WOW!
Okay, so they kept Oswald in black-and-white, which probably means he won't get a voice. But I'm looking at this and wondering if the creators aren't quite getting "mischievous" and "whimsical antagonism" for these characters and instead turning Mickey and Oswald into a couple of total dicks.
Reading through the "Scrapper" Mickey playthrough level, Mickey seems to act like an asshole just to be an asshole. Which, I mean, he DOES do a lot in 20s cartoons. But he sort of does it with an exuberance and a cheerfulness that I'm not seeing here. I'm just seeing a sort of vindictiveness to these characters, especially with the villainous look they gave to Oswald's character model.
Fallout: New Florida
Anyway, back on topic.
"Disney scared the pants off me when I was little. Disney needs to scare kids!" -Warren Spector
THIS IS WHY HE IS PERFECT FOR THE JOB.
other disney game has,I really like the whole idea.A dark world of evil disney.
I WANT MY CHILDHOOD SCARRED, DAMMIT.
It's better then any Hannah Montanna/karaoke game.
This guy said when in a certain level, you'll have a demonic version of "It's a small world after all"
Now make a song revamped from Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, except make it be about giving your soul to the devil and drinking blood.
Now before anybody also claims that here, I'll have to say that it is very possible that the "Epic" doesn't come from the fact that the game is epic, but and also that the story isn't epic, but that the story is probably an epic. Sans the big battles. More like an epic poetry or something, a sort of heroes song.
And Final Fantasy isn't all that Final. So I say "Ha!" to this other board.
Anyway, not too fond of this game overall, but I love what they did to his ears. : P
Posted that thread a day or so back. Do you post there?
"Like" might not be the right word. There's just nothing interesting about it.
No, an acquaintance simply linked me to the topic. Which I did in turn due to difficulties surrounding the posting of images here at Telltale(IE: the lack of size restrictions).
That's the thing. I know about Oswald and Spector, but it just looks bland. Like, as a game, it's got nothing interesting going for it despite the characters and sceneries. And even there, it's not as ground-breakingly dark as Warren first seemed to present it, which too is disappointing...
You are saying that when you know naught of the game nor what is involved other than a brief plot synopsis? Gaming would be enjoyable were it not for gamers.:rolleyes:
Calm down. Isn't an article like this supposed to interest? And what we got, in text and images, just deleted all of that interest for me.
You're amazingly cool, dude, but I'm not THAT much of a "hardcore gamer". I just don't find this interesting, that's all.
(Can you say amn't? Weh, you should be able to. s'great)
"When this...
...turns into this...
...you know something went terribly wrong concerning communication between the artists and the game designers!"
EPIC fail! (no pun intended...)
but the in-game footage doesn't look very dark and creepy...
is that the epcot golf ball in the second one. this game could turn out great!
edit - i meant the first one