Chapter 3 (Don't read if you haven't played)
Well, I just finished chapter 3 and... well... my feelings for it were very mixed. I'll just list what I thought was 'good' and what was 'bad' about it. NOTE: You really don't have to agree with me.
The Good
-Murray! What else can I say? Brilliant way to bring him back!
-Very good laugh out loud moments, and plenty of them.
-Puzzle with Morgan as the fake wife. Nuff said.
-Great sound/graphics. Seems to be less character reuse, at least better disguises to the reused models
On the other hand...
-Puzzles are much harder than the previous episode. Often have whacked out, crazy, and round-a-bout solutions that confused me. Had me almost looking up a freaking walkthrough in the first twenty minutes. Hint system is better than in TMI2 but not much.
-I just didn't like the relationship with Morgan and Guybrush in this one. Last month she thought he was a swashbuckling hero who was witty and brave, this month she regards him as a total wuss. The whole fangirl thing really made her character more likable for me, and now...?
The Good
-Murray! What else can I say? Brilliant way to bring him back!
-Very good laugh out loud moments, and plenty of them.
-Puzzle with Morgan as the fake wife. Nuff said.
-Great sound/graphics. Seems to be less character reuse, at least better disguises to the reused models
On the other hand...
-Puzzles are much harder than the previous episode. Often have whacked out, crazy, and round-a-bout solutions that confused me. Had me almost looking up a freaking walkthrough in the first twenty minutes. Hint system is better than in TMI2 but not much.
-I just didn't like the relationship with Morgan and Guybrush in this one. Last month she thought he was a swashbuckling hero who was witty and brave, this month she regards him as a total wuss. The whole fangirl thing really made her character more likable for me, and now...?
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The only problem in this chapter for me was the cliffhanger, it's essentially the same as chapter 1 with Morgan holding them hostage, but we know who she is now. I was hoping for something with LeChuck or Elaine. Other than that, great episode, best so far for me.
Strangely enough, I thought this episode was easier than the previous ones. Maybe it's because I always disable hints and maybe the hints in the previous episodes are more obvious? No idea why I'd have exactly the opposite impression.
My only complaint is that this episode seemed to be very short. I was a little disappointed to finish within a couple hours with only a total of about 4 small areas (The Screaming Narwhal, upper inner manatee, lower inner manatee, undersea).
Nothing against Elaine, just time for Guybrush to mix it up a little.
Also, Murray.
I thought all the puzzles were logical (MI-logical, at least).
As for Morgan, I think you missed the point - the idea was that when she saw Guybrush at work it wasn't quite how she expected it - he's hardly the smoothest of operators, after all - but then by the end she realises he gets the job done against all odds, and is back to being a fan again.
About the music, did any one else get annoyed by the tune playing while you sink to the sea switch as soon as you hit the bottom? I liked the first one better. I think it was the Largo from MI2 (thought it could have been merely a resemblance) Any one else noticed this?
I thought it was the Kate Capsize Music sting?
The music as you fall to the bottom is indeed the music from Kate Capsize's boat - you also hear this when falling from Skull Island in Curse of Monkey Island.
At the bottom of the sea, the music is a variation on the bridge section of the captain kate music which you hear while standing on the bottom of the ocean (one of my favourite bits of MI music). This is also heard when you open the umbrella on Skull Island in CMI and there's also a version of this bit during a brief moment underwater in Escape from Monkey Island.
Ever since I saw that this episode might partially take place underwater, I was hoping I might hear this bit of music, and I geeked out when it happened.
But otherwise, I actually liked the fact that I got stuck. One of the best points of MI2 was that it was the hardest, remember?
I didn't hate Morgan, but I didn't like her either. I thought it'd be interesting considering the last episode, but it wasn't as much as I expected.
But otherwise, I'd say it's the best episode yet.
But that being said, I still found this one a lot more enjoyable. The puzzles were much more logical, and as you said there were a lot of very funny moments. I really enjoyed the Face Off puzzle and communicating with the manatee's. Once again it felt like a good call back to the older games, without directly copying them.
The only time I actually found this to be true was the puzzle involving the glasses because I never noticed that he actually put them down and they could be picked up (I think this should have maybe been made a bit more obvious). I had to look up a hint for that one (luckly *just* a hint, once I found out I had to do something with those glasses I was able to figure out the rest).
The rest of the puzzles were very clever in my opinion. They felt a lot "smarter" than previous puzzles. I particularly enjoyed the ones involving (spoilers coming, the thread title warns you already so I'm not marking them):
-Getting Morgan to go on a date
-The Locket (*great* puzzle!) and Voodoo Lady stuff
-Sea Manatee language puzzle (I loved all the generic "How do I get to the library?" type phrases
The characters were good, and there was good parts of dialogue.
Murray was a big plus, great to hear his voice again, and class humour. And he made watching the credits entertaining, in a Whose Line is it Anyway style.
Was a bit short though, and having completed it means I will have to wait for quite some time for the next installment...
Great game! Perhaps the best chapter so far!
.. and Murray in the end text!
Same
The game is great!
Loved Murray (his look and dialogue were bang on - felt like exactly the same Murray from Curse), loved the throwback diving sequence (with music), loved the tarot card puzzle, loved the new characters, loved the characterisation and plot development, loved the Manitee conversation (did anyone else think about the love conversation between Guybrush and Elaine from MI2 while playing this?), loved the face off puzzle and loved the locations.
This, in my opinion, is the best chapter so far (and that's saying something). Yes, its quite easy, yes, its quite short and yes, there was no BIG cliffhanger. But these aren't faults. Tales of Monkey Island is an episodic game and there's no need to be disapointed - there is much more to come.
I'm so glad Telltale are moving the game in new, exciting and fun ways. The writing has been superb and its great to be able to believe in these characters again.
Murray is definately a huge highlight. If there is a second season, I hope they will wait untill then to use him again as I would hate to see him overused. But then again, the way that Telltale have dealt with him, I would probably be extremely happy to see him return every month!
Big thumbs up from me. I am really looking forward to the next chapter.
Chapter three was lightyears ahead of chapter two, and quite a bit better then chapter one.
-Puzzles were fun and logical
-Almost all secondary characters *had* character(the chief failing of the second game, with the first only saved by de singe), there was obvious work put in to differentiate the stock ttg character models, and they had interesting personalities.
-Voices felt nice and clear
-It was funny throughout(the second was not, and the first struggled towards the end)
-Murray had his best outing yet
-Set piece puzzles were great (gurning, voodoo lady & manatee travel dictionary)
All in all, fantastic. If the final two games are of this quality I'll be very happy.
Yeah, and the camera angels of his decent in ep 3 was almost exacly like MI2...
OH MAN!
The shot of Guybrush opening the chest that Murray is in was amazing.
It was awesome that you guys did this!
This is something I thought as well. As much as I loved Murry in this episode, I wouldn't want to see him come back to soon. So far they've been good with not simply shoe-horning characters in for the sake of having them in, so hopefully they keep that up.
Really?!?
I still found this episode ridiculously easy (especially compared to Monkey Island 1, 2, and 3), but even compared to past Tellate games (some episodes in Sam and Max: Season 2).
(That's not the say the puzzles weren't fun--much funner than some previous episodes--and logical).
Anyway, 3 was definitely the best episode yet.
I just completed the game in less than 3 hours, with Hints off, and trying to talk with everyone and everything...
The "Harder" one, for me, was the first...
Dificcult Rating:
ToMI01:38/100
ToMI02:22/100
ToMI03:28/100
SOMI:68/100
MILR:81/100
COMI:78/100
EFMI:47/100
I dont know if im getting smarter, or the games r getting easyer... But the "puzzles" are actually very obyusly... Take head from Santino, distract guy, slash head. Old Painting... Use corrosive yellow liquid to see obviusly needed face for Face combat... Duct "tapped", use corrosive yellow liquid, to solve it... Need to learn manatii, use picture in decavas picturo and press button... What was hard????
The music was done very tastefully, it usually nicely bended into the background, but if you pay attention, there are a lot of good tunes to discover. The voice acting was also first class (special thanks to Morgan and Bugeye), and I've always liked the graphics. The humour seemed to be flowing constantly probably courtesy of the characters, but I kept smiling as I played.
All in all, Lair of the Leviathan is easily my favourite piece of the ToMI series - it may be one of the best games Telltale ever released. I'll replay it like a week later, and see how it holds up. Until then, great job, and I wonder what else is in store!
My one complaint I guess with chapter 3 is we had one short cutscene with Lechuck and Elaine. I really wanted more clues to what they were doing....
One reason for it being easier for me is that the objects were all very obvious; I didn´t have to search for anything. It was the only of the three episodes so far where I never looked into a walkthrough.
Overall it is another very good episode, and for me only slightly inferior to the second; I had a few more laughs there, and it seemed a bit longer.
The puzzles were the easiest so far for me, but also my favorite. They were quirky and fun, but also had a logical solution. I love all the the extra care and details that's been put into it. This has been my favorite episode yet. I'm really looking forward to seeing the last two episodes.