Episode 4 Speculation "The Trail and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood"

Ok, everybody. It's been alittle since the release of the third chapter. Most of us by now are through the game, and starting to wonder. What do we have out there for ideas on what is going to happen?
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  • edited October 2009
    The basic gist of what I got.
    Stan will be GT lawyer.
    He'll lose.
    GT will be "executed" and/or needs to escape.
    OR
    The Pyrite Parrot will be executed. (Croooak! I'm Guybrush Threepwood, Mighty Pirate!)
  • edited October 2009
    Play as Elaine? If Guybrush is stuck behind bars, we might get into someone else's shoes for a bit. I doubt it would happen, but it's a possibility.

    Also: We'd see how Flotsam and the locals changed due to the Pox. I also espect McGillicutty to be back.
  • ConCon
    edited October 2009
    Well...Morgan takes Guybrush back to Flotsam for da bounteé since Winslow is of little use. I wonder what charges they have against GT for bringing him to the trial anyhow, but one thing is sure: the pyrite parrot will save the day!
  • edited October 2009
    Stan as GT lawyer
    Guybrush will lose but somehow be executed a la CMI where he "dies" but isnt really dead or escapes JUST in the nick of time, and then I think we will also see LeChuck's plan finally or whoever the pirate god might end up being, and the episode will end with us going to a new (or returning from an old game, MI perhaps) location for the final chapter
  • edited October 2009
    I think that everyone's true allegiance and motives will be revealed such as Morgans' and LeChucks'. The reveal of LeChuck's motives might serve as the cliffhanger.
  • edited October 2009
    can lechuck go back to his roots by being affected by the p0x?
  • edited October 2009
    hamzie wrote: »
    can lechuck go back to his roots by being affected by the p0x?

    That would be a very cheap way to make him evil again. It's sort of the easy way out in making him evil again. I would much more prefer it if he was actually behind everything and has a master plan. Everything he was doing in the game was part of sinister plot.

    After all, the synopsis of the game makes mention of an insidious plot and it doesn't seem to be connected to De Singe as he just wants Guybrush to prefect his elixir. That would only leave LeChuck to be behind this insidious plot, it's about time LeChuck made an ingenious plan that swoops over everyone's heads until the right moment.
  • edited October 2009
    Con wrote: »
    I wonder what charges they have against GT for bringing him to the trial anyhow

    Yes i thought the same. Well, charges there are many, but who brings him to trial?
    I belive maybe DeSinge cant just kill Gybrush and open him up to start his experiments, so first he needs to make him executed (legally) so then he can start experimenting. There sholudnt be any problem if a doctor wants to take the dead body of an executed prisioner to experiment.

    Now another question that i have is: now that Guybrush is cured from the pox, would he be of any use to DeSinge? Uhm....
  • edited October 2009
    I think Guybrush's severed hand will play a big role. No, I'm serious! Somehow DeSinge will end up curing his hand and we'll have to control it.
    Maybe.
    No?
    >.<
  • edited October 2009
    Maxilyah wrote: »
    I think Guybrush's severed hand will play a big role. No, I'm serious! Somehow DeSinge will end up curing his hand and we'll have to control it.
    Maybe.
    No?
    >.<

    I actually like this idea. It's very unique. I hadn't considered we'd be playing as the hand kind of like Thing in Addam's Family. I like it.
  • edited October 2009
    I hope we get an enclosed (Difficult) escape-from-jail-cell puzzle, circa MI2 but with more to it.

    Could Stan be a lawyer? Possibly, and it would be great to see him back.

    As others have said, Flotsam by night could be very atmostpheric.

    Seeing the interior of the bar would be great, but Im not sure there could be enough unique characters to make it feel truely like a pirate bar.
  • edited October 2009
    I would love to see a return to a classic location for the 4th or 5th chapter. Something on Monkey Island or Melee Island would make for a fitting final chapter, I think. :)
  • edited October 2009
    I have no idea about how the trial part will work - it just seems like Guybrush will have De Singe, De Cava and his crew against him. Not sure about the other characters...
    But when Guybrush is sentenced to death and about to be executed, I'm sure there will be a big rescued-in-the-last-second-by-someone-surprise in the end. And that someone could be...
    ...Elaine?
    ...Morgan?
    ...LeChuck?
    ...or someone completely different?

    And then, Guybrush will escape to.... Monkey Island? Would be great to get back there for the fifth chapter.
  • edited October 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    And then, Guybrush will escape to.... Monkey Island? Would be great to get back there for the fifth chapter.

    Personally, I hope we don't go back to Monkey Island and feel 99% sure we won't.
  • edited October 2009
    I think either Chapter 4 or 5 would take us to the Rock of Gelato. That's the only island we haven't been to yet.
  • edited October 2009
    ...and then in Season Two we'll learn about the underground tunnels connecting the Rock of Gelato to Monkey Island. :p
  • edited October 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    I have no idea about how the trial part will work - it just seems like Guybrush will have De Singe, De Cava and his crew against him. Not sure about the other characters...
    But when Guybrush is sentenced to death and about to be executed, I'm sure there will be a big rescued-in-the-last-second-by-someone-surprise in the end. And that someone could be...
    ...Elaine?
    ...Morgan?
    ...LeChuck?
    ...or someone completely different?

    And then, Guybrush will escape to.... Monkey Island? Would be great to get back there for the fifth chapter.

    I think the Vacaylians might be brought back for the fourth or fifth episode, but either in defense of GT or not I'm not sure...

    Oh, and we're bound to end up on the Rock of Gelato at some point, possibly in the execution part of the game (if not the fifth episode). Oh, and there's bound to be something involving the monkies of Montevideo and their swordfighting prowess. :p
  • edited October 2009
    I'm just hoping if Guybrush gets a chance, he'll use the sponge (I thought he still had it) on his possessed hand and Elaine. But maybe Morgan took it and she'll give it to DeSinge (Although that would be the stupidest thing to do seeing how the pox is affecting everyone.)
  • edited October 2009
    I believe Guybrush will be executed. As in, properly executed. Really! He will die. He will then return either as a ghost pirate or zombie pirate or something similar, and will remain that way until some way is figured out to bring him back to life either in this episode or the next.
  • edited October 2009
    I believe Guybrush will be executed. As in, properly executed. Really! He will die. He will then return either as a ghost pirate or zombie pirate or something similar, and will remain that way until some way is figured out to bring him back to life either in this episode or the next.
    Isn't that a bit too... Sam and Max?
  • edited October 2009
    Randulf wrote: »
    Isn't that a bit too... Sam and Max?

    I'd say it's a bit too Red vs. Blue. And we all know how well the coming-back-as-a-ghost storyline worked out for them. :rolleyes:
  • edited October 2009
    ryaninc wrote: »
    I'd say it's a bit too Red vs. Blue. And we all know how well the coming-back-as-a-ghost storyline worked out for them. :rolleyes:

    It would be different to either of those. In Sam and Max it was pretty much just a joke (like everything in that series), and... well, Red vs Blue is just a totally different style of humour.

    Guybrush coming back as a ghost pirate would be totally in keeping with the MI universe, and I know they can do it right. Mark my words, I think when TTG decided to name the episode 'The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood' they meant it.
  • edited October 2009
    Spadge wrote: »
    I think either Chapter 4 or 5 would take us to the Rock of Gelato. That's the only island we haven't been to yet.
    Sounds plausible. It all started there, too. Well, I just thought it would be nice if Monkey Island was a part of the story, too. I mean, it's called "Tales of Monkey Island" after all, isn't it? Though Monkey Island didn't appear in MI2, either... Or at least, it wasn't named, as the Carnival of the Damned was supposed to be there, but... I better stop babbling now. ;)

    @SurplusGamer: Guybrush as a ghost/zombie pirate would very well go along with the MI universe, I give you that. I even read a fanfic once where something like that happened, and it worked out pretty well (and he was brought back to life eventually). But it wouldn't go with the LucasArts or Telltale Games universe if the main character got killed, would it?
    Besides, Guybrush simply doesn't deserve being turned into some kind of an undead zombie, after he was cured from the pox...
  • edited October 2009
    this is a question i asked on another thread but i didnt get a reply. alot of ppl say that stan will be the lawyer or somthing like that. my question is 'has stan been confirmed to make an apperance in TOMI chapter 4 or 5? did i miss somthing becasue i dont recall reading about it. or is it sumthing that ppl are really expecting to happen?
  • edited October 2009
    I think it would be cool if they executed him and then the Marquis used his potion to test and see if it could reanimate him, which it could, and then he would be undead somehow, only to be saved by none other than LeChuck who absorbs all the voodoo himself, ending the game with LeChuck being bad again but only because he was saving Guybrush BUT after the transformation LeChuck is even worse than before and they end with a big ol' battle
  • edited October 2009
    If LeChuck went from being undead and became human as a result of the Cutlass of Kaflu, so perhaps if GT is executed but remains animated due to the pox, LeChuck creates and uses a similar method as was used on him to cure Guybrush of the curse, and it all goes back into LeChuck reverting all back to normal.
  • ConCon
    edited October 2009
    balin2k wrote: »
    this is a question i asked on another thread but i didnt get a reply. alot of ppl say that stan will be the lawyer or somthing like that. my question is 'has stan been confirmed to make an apperance in TOMI chapter 4 or 5? did i miss somthing becasue i dont recall reading about it. or is it sumthing that ppl are really expecting to happen?

    I haven't seen such claim confirmed either, but since Stan has been in every other MI game, and TTG was said to respect the traditions, I see no reason why he wouldn't be in either future chapter.
  • edited October 2009
    serweet wrote: »
    If LeChuck went from being undead and became human as a result of the Cutlass of Kaflu, so perhaps if GT is executed but remains animated due to the pox, LeChuck creates and uses a similar method as was used on him to cure Guybrush of the curse, and it all goes back into LeChuck reverting all back to normal.

    I don't know, I think that would take LeChuck a little too far away from his roots. I love that his character is finally getting a new side to him, but I think him sacrificing his humanity for Guybrush is taking it a little too far. As plausible as it may seem, I can never wrap my head around the idea that LeChuck is truly a nice guy. I can accept him pretending to be nice and is up to something evil, but him going to the extreme to save a former, or perhaps not depending on his real motives, arch enemy just seems a little too out of character.
  • edited October 2009
    Con wrote: »
    I haven't seen such claim confirmed either, but since Stan has been in every other MI game, and TTG was said to respect the traditions, I see no reason why he wouldn't be in either future chapter.

    ok, thats kool. wasnt sure if i missed some anousment.
  • edited October 2009
    You know LeChuck as able to change forms, right? Maybe Human LeChuck IS just a trick like when he played himself as Charles L Charles. This would mean that the Kutlass of kaflu did NOTHING, and that the POX is really Lechucks spell after it was finished! LeChuck has been using Guybrush to get the sponge since it IS the only thing that can stop his plan.
  • edited October 2009
    You know LeChuck as able to change forms, right? Maybe Human LeChuck IS just a trick like when he played himself as Charles L Charles. This would mean that the Kutlass of kaflu did NOTHING, and that the POX is really Lechucks spell after it was finished! LeChuck has been using Guybrush to get the sponge since it IS the only thing that can stop his plan.

    I actually wondered about that myself. As soon as he turned human, I thought, "well, he's done that before." I guess we'll have to wait and see...but that would be an interesting plot development. I like the idea of LeChuck being behind it all along. He really is a pretty smart bad guy, despite the fact that he's been defeated 4 times already :)
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    ryaninc wrote: »
    I actually wondered about that myself. As soon as he turned human, I thought, "well, he's done that before." I guess we'll have to wait and see...but that would be an interesting plot development. I like the idea of LeChuck being behind it all along. He really is a pretty smart bad guy, despite the fact that he's been defeated 4 times already :)

    Aw... maybe I'm just a sucker for a bad boy turned good, but I want to trust LeChuck! He's so lovably inept without the voodoo zombie thing going on.
  • edited October 2009
    I just found it so hard to believe that LeChuck was being evil when he was helping you in ch2 with the one puzzle and defeating the pirates. I know it could all be a trick but it comes off as farfetched to me. Maybe LeChuck's trying to go for that innocent friend attempt and will be hurt when Elaine loves Guybrush. Although I am curious from what LeChuck said in chapter 3 in the one cut scene him and Elaine were in and he said something like "It's a new day Elaine". Maybe the Pox is affecting Elaine's judgment, that's why it's so easy for her to trust LeChuck. There's so many possibilities of ways they could do this story. Hopefully it'll be more surprising than who Charles L. Charles was...
  • edited October 2009
    I think Guybrush will either die or be rendered unconscious enough to be declared dead (ala Curse), and he'll end up in the Crossroads that the Voodoo Lady talked about in Chapter One. What happened after that... I dunno. Maybe he'll meet the Pirate God!

    Another idea: Maybe the execution is actually a voodoo ritual to expel Guybrush's soul from his body so LeChuck can steal it... or maybe I've been reading On Stranger Tides too much.
  • edited October 2009
    I think Guybrush will either die or be rendered unconscious enough to be declared dead (ala Curse), and he'll end up in the Crossroads that the Voodoo Lady talked about in Chapter One. What happened after that... I dunno. Maybe he'll meet the Pirate God!

    Another idea: Maybe the execution is actually a voodoo ritual to expel Guybrush's soul from his body so LeChuck can steal it... or maybe I've been reading On Stranger Tides too much.

    I totally need to reread On Stranger Tides. I remember loving the book when I read it years ago. Blackbeard puppet, as I recall? Ha!

    Anyway - I think that Guybrush is going to die and become the risen pirate god. That'll make him a truly mighty pirate! Although, I'm curious to see how they'll resurrect him as a human in the end. Can't have a Monkey Island game without Guybrush still being goofy in the end.
  • edited October 2009
    In my opinion, in true Monkey Island tradition, La Esponga Grande will be of little consequence and you'll have to create a reasonable facsimile. Or LeChuck will sacrifice himself for everybody with his good nature and be a sponge replacement and go back to his evil ways. This all by the end of the 5th chapter.

    As for the next chapter, I'm thinking this is going to be a gathering of all of Guybrush's enemies that he's made so far in the last 3 chapters and they'll all be testifying against him a la Seinfeld.
  • edited October 2009
    *shrugs*

    I don't know.
  • edited October 2009
    Okay, lets see how I go at this speculation. *cracks fingers*

    Morgan brings the captive Threepwood back to Flotsam, but in an effort to stop (or at least delay) the dissecting, says she's taking him in for his pirate reward instead. Guybrush goes to jail, safe from the Marquis De Nutcase (as he fondly calls him).

    Then the case opens, with Guybrush's many cases of property damage, disturbing the peace, rigging public events (an example of all 3 would be him failing the pirates test in MI4 to get the dunce hat, pulling the fire alarm on the side of the school and using said dunce hat to cheat in a diving competition) and his many many MANY kleptomaniac-styled robberies.

    By the end of it, his own lawyer Stan would probably jump sides, remembering out loud when Guybrush used a stolen note of credit to buy (and sink) a ship, as well as locking him in a coffin, Elaine and LeChuck would have arrived to drop off the last of the monkeys, Morgan would realise that while Threepwood isnt a buccanereíng, corsairing cut-throating blood-thristy pirate, his own unique style still makes him a "Mighty Pirate™" and Winslow would be more harm than help when the pox (still uncured as the sponge would be exhibit number 3, unique artifact carelessly stolen by the defendant) still hasn't cured him. Our boy Guybrush is sentanced to the gallows.

    The night before, the Marquis would perhaps try to free Threepwood for his experiments, meeting up with Elaine who wants to free him (maybe with a good LeChuck) and a small argument starts, before Morgan LeFlay sneaks in to extract Guybrush Threepwood, (admitidly) Mighty Pirate™, before Van Winslow stumbles onto the scene, remembering a similiar tale where he tried to rescue a former crewmate and meeting a whole cast of others (who broke down into petty arguing) before a poxly outburst causes enough of a disturbance to have them all locked up.


    And I reckon they'll watch from cells as Guybrush, "Can't we talk this over?" Threepwood has his neck in the noose and the words "To be Concluded in Part 5 etc etc".. and I dunno.. maybe the Voodoo Lady would magic him out of it.. Im guessing number FOUR, not five.

    /bow
  • edited October 2009
    If I were them, I'd definitely kill off Guybrush. I'd behead him, on screen, and end the chapter with the camera focused on Guybrush's severed head as a solemn tune plays and the credits roll.
  • edited October 2009
    If I were them, I'd definitely kill off Guybrush. I'd behead him, on screen, and end the chapter with the camera focused on Guybrush's severed head as a solemn tune plays and the credits roll.

    And Murray! GT's head talking to Murray.

    Er, I mean. Violence is not the answer! (Es ist nur die Lösung.)
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