Dissapointed were going to Flotsam?

edited October 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
I thought chapter one was good but in my opinion it wasn't nearly as good as chapter 2 and 3 which I thought were great. I think the reason for this was the fact that Flotsam lacked atmosphere and felt kind of dull. Anybody else kind of dissapointed that we are returning to Flotsam?
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  • edited October 2009
    I can see what you're saying, but I think there will be a very different mood this time around. Who knows how much of an effect the pox has had on the island by now. Plus we get to see more of the interior of the island such as the court house and jail. Also, I'm expecting night fall on the island, since it was sunset at the end of Chapter 3, with burning torches everywhere. Sort of a Blood Island feel. If they do that, it would be as good as new for me.
  • edited October 2009
    Dissapointed? No.
    I like revisiting places if they have changed. So if we may play at night and get to visit the interior of some places (hopefully the pirate-bar can be entered this time), than its okay for me.
    I also hope that some old locations like the wind-statues etc. are striked from the locationlist and be replaced by some new. Or TTG leaves the jungle-labyrinth out at all (the vodooshack can be entered via worldmap), just uses the town and puts in an all new following location. I mean where will we be headding in Ep. 5 - besides the small rock of gelato, we were all around the gulf.
  • edited October 2009
    The Courthouse will be open to see I'm pretty sure.... Also I am really hoping for a night episode.... just as it became nighttime we where swallowed by a manatee and missed it.
  • edited October 2009
    Nah Flotsam's asthetically nice to look at, and no doubt there'll be new situations there. Though I wonder if the judge is back yet
  • edited October 2009
    Happy as long as most of the episode is in new surroundings.
  • edited October 2009
    I voted maybe on this one, just because it COULD turn out dissapointing. I think the first episode has been the weakest of the 3(Not that it isn't fantastic), but I trust that Telltale can make Flotsam interesting again.
  • edited October 2009
    I am a little disappointed, but then again, I was prepared for it from the moment i saw the court house, and knew ch 4 title. connect the dots, etc'...
  • edited October 2009
    There may be more than one location. We could escape Flotsam and then the ship may get caught in a storm and get washed ashore of some unknown island?
  • jmmjmm
    edited October 2009
    TT can also put some twist on things like adding another town on the far side of the island or at least new locations. Throw in some lighting changes (The trial begins late in the afternoon and then GT is thrown in the jail cell, so the game begins at night/dawn with GT escape)

    And now that the Winds are no longer completely inward or outward (Morgan got back to Flotsam in Ep 2 to deliver the hand) so new characters are a possibility (and old ones could have left as well - That means you D'Oro)

    But even if it is good'ol Flotsam the pox could have turned things around (for worse!).

    One thing I don't want to see again is the jungle madness/map puzzle. In fact skip the jungle completely. The Map is Good, "Just point at the map, sir", "I like it when you point at the map, sir"
  • edited October 2009
    The fact that we had three episodes in a row without any real recycled locations makes this feel more like a natural part of the story and not forced rehashing.
  • edited October 2009
    I'm up for going back to Flotsam. It's actually been my favorite location in the game thus far.
  • edited October 2009
    Nah, cos now we can go inside the courthouse and I imagine other shops too.
  • edited October 2009
    Maybe. I don't really care to see the Flotsam citizens again, but I AM keen to see if the Pox has had an effect on the island.
  • edited October 2009
    For those who are worried I'm sure Chapter 4 isn't just going to be "Launch of the Screaming Narwhal plus the inside of the courthouse." I'm sure things on the island have changed in the time Guybrush has been away.

    There will be a good reason we are going back there.
  • edited October 2009
    I'm guessing that there'll be a lot more to the episode than just going to the same old Flotsam + the courthouse, just like how Lair of the Leviathan wasn't just set within the Manatee.
    Perhaps we'll start seeing a lot more about the subplot of LeChuck's monkies being spread across the Caribbean, and how that relates to the Pox.

    In any case, I'll be happy to go there again. Now that de Singe is a fully-fledged villain, we had to return to his island 'fortress' at some point to set things straight.
  • edited October 2009
    yeah, lechuck seemed to be almost possessed by his monkey returning task. this was part of his evil sceme all along...cursing them and returing them to their island so they can infect other monkeys as well.
    the pox is simply a distraction...:D
    Maybe. I don't really care to see the Flotsam citizens again, but I AM keen to see if the Pox has had an effect on the island.

    shouldn't flotsam be the only pox free island by now, since the winds are blowing out since episode one? anyway, the whole wind thing will probably become important to the story again.
  • edited October 2009
    If you think about it, the surface of Flotsam was just scratched in the first one. I daresay Nipperkin will be fiercly contending with his rivals over at the other tiny island newspaper that-we-never-saw-any-of the first time around.
  • edited October 2009
    Takun wrote: »
    If you think about it, the surface of Flotsam was just scratched in the first one. I daresay Nipperkin will be fiercly contending with his rivals over at the other tiny island newspaper that-we-never-saw-any-of the first time around.

    I think Nipperkin was just crazy. In reality there is no Flotsom Times, it's just a figment of his increasingly maddening imagination.
  • ConCon
    edited October 2009
    This was expected in the chapter 1 when voodoo lady told the chest in her shack was 'to be opened many months after'. Not to mention the trial.
  • edited October 2009
    Woodsyblue wrote: »
    I think Nipperkin was just crazy. In reality there is no Flotsom Times, it's just a figment of his increasingly maddening imagination.

    Now that you mention it, his assistants voice sounds alot like Nipperkin with his hand over his mouth. (Like Stewie Griffin and his Secretary). Still, I wouldn't mind seeing how things have changed - theres gotta be a bit more to flotsam than a bar, a mad dotors, a newsagency, a court/jail house and a pirate glass blower...

    "Arr, I look up and this cannonball came and wrecked me precious unicorns! Then I hear that Blondie brat gone and became Captain o'the Narwhal. You tell me who else coulda done it *poxly cough hack WHEEZE* Judge!" (C'mon, who cant see Crimpdidget's testimony coming a mile away?)
  • edited October 2009
    Aren't we ALL excited to finally use that random device with the buttons and levers in the Voodoo Lady's shack? :D
  • edited October 2009
    wisp wrote: »
    shouldn't flotsam be the only pox free island by now, since the winds are blowing out since episode one? anyway, the whole wind thing will probably become important to the story again.

    Well, assuming that Guybrush's hand is spreading the pox (and de Singe has that), Flotsam should still be swamped it in at the moment.
  • edited October 2009
    LeChuck wants to bring each monkey to their homes.. And don't forget that one of them is still on Flotsam, in De Singe's lab.. so I think we we'll see LeChuck and Elaine again, there..
  • edited October 2009
    Hey, relax, i went in eleven Sam&Max episodes more than once back to the office. I for sure can handle going back to Flotsam Island for once. Well, a least if the story is good on it or maybe i finally can enter the bar (i strongly think so) and drink some Grog so that all shines fine and riddles get at least thougher this way.
  • edited October 2009
    so far all the chapter title events have taken place towards the END of the chapter. the launch of the screaming narwhal didn't take place until around the end, the siege of spinner cay didnt happen until the end, we didn't see the actual lair of the leviathan until the end

    so my guess is that there's going to be a whole bunch of stuff that happens even before we get to the trial itself
  • edited October 2009
    I was a little disappointed about going back to Flotsam, but I really hope they change it up a little bit. Give us a dark Flotsam at night, plauged by the pox - and don't leave us on the island for the whole episode, and I think I'll be happy.
  • edited October 2009
    I can imagine that LeChuck and Elaine arrive at the trial and Guybrush is relieved at first because Elaine will vouch for him. But Elaine is revealed to be completely under the pox's control and is there to go against him. While in prison, Guybrush gets a visitor, LeChuck. LeChuck reveals he was behind everything and is actually controlling the pox and has Elaine at his side at last. He nest reveals he used Guybrush to find the sponge for him and arrived to obtain it and then watch Guybrush die with hundreds cheering at his demise, including his wife.

    I think that would be the most sadistic, heart wrenching, and horrible way to finally get revenge on Guybrush. Not only will he die, but his last thoughts and images are LeChuck and Elaine together and many more hating him.
  • edited October 2009
    Duate wrote: »
    so my guess is that there's going to be a whole bunch of stuff that happens even before we get to the trial itself

    I believe the same. They are not there yet.
  • edited October 2009
    Maybe :D
  • edited October 2009
    Hope we're going to a secret lab on Monkey Island!
  • edited October 2009
    I voted 'maybe' because it depends what we see when we're back there.
  • edited October 2009
    taumel wrote: »
    Hey, relax, i went in eleven Sam&Max episodes more than once back to the office. I for sure can handle going back to Flotsam Island for once. Well, a least if the story is good on it or maybe i finally can enter the bar (i strongly think so) and drink some Grog so that all shines fine and riddles get at least thougher this way.

    this is a decent point.
  • edited October 2009
    Maybe... But "no" if there isn't a jungle maze again. That's the only part of TMI I didn't like so far.
  • edited October 2009
    Yeah I always hate maze puzzles in adventure games.
  • edited October 2009
    I didn't mind the jungle maze so much. I loved the fact that Flotsom was one of those old school islands where the map pulled back to a birds eye and you could choose were you wanted to go. We haven't really had that so much in Chapters 2 & 3. There was sailing around Spinner Cay which was fun but all the locations were so small, I mean I understand why, at the end of the day I hardly want to be downloading something the size of Oblivion every month, I just preferred wandering around a single larger island. Flotsam wasn't exactly huge but it was big enough.

    In fact I'm kind of looking forward to going back.
  • edited October 2009
    Monkey Island games have almost always revisited a location later on in the game, heck, in MI2, all you did for 3/4 of the game was revisit the same 3 islands over and over.
  • edited October 2009
    And boy did I get my money out of Captain Dread! I worked him to the bone :D
  • edited October 2009
    I am also hoping for a night time flotsam! that would be so awsome!


    Do it TT! DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!
  • edited October 2009
    I can imagine that LeChuck and Elaine arrive at the trial and Guybrush is relieved at first because Elaine will vouch for him. But Elaine is revealed to be completely under the pox's control and is there to go against him. While in prison, Guybrush gets a visitor, LeChuck. LeChuck reveals he was behind everything and is actually controlling the pox and has Elaine at his side at last. He nest reveals he used Guybrush to find the sponge for him and arrived to obtain it and then watch Guybrush die with hundreds cheering at his demise, including his wife.

    I think that would be the most sadistic, heart wrenching, and horrible way to finally get revenge on Guybrush. Not only will he die, but his last thoughts and images are LeChuck and Elaine together and many more hating him.

    Wow, that's a great idea!
  • edited October 2009
    TTG always comes through with something really good and creative, I'm not worried a bit. I mean, just remember episode 3. I mean, ffs, remember episode 3!
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