Is it really worth it to buy the updated Monkey Island?

I think £6.99 for a rehashed 19 year old game is a little too much even if it has been rehashed and given a face lift esp when the old game can be had on Ebay for less.
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  • edited November 2009
    for me the apeal was the voices to to the classic lines and also the nice looking artwork and music. if you love monkey island alot then i would sugest buying it if you have the money. just to say you did. if your not that bothered about that stuff and the old game is perfect to you then i wouldnt get it.
  • edited November 2009
    Dominic Armato is worth twice that.

    Actually he's worth quite a bit more, but I'm just makin' a point here.
  • edited November 2009
    oh, the game is buggy (menu contols sometimes require the keyboard and the game maps talk options to a bit over where they visually appear: you have to click on the top of the next option)

    buut: if you look at someone, his head is more than 5 pixels wide: you really see eyes! and all the other neat graphical stuff

    aaand: talkie version!
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited November 2009
    daro2096 wrote: »
    I think £6.99 for a rehashed 19 year old game is a little too much

    Are you kidding? Hours of beautifully updated, TALKIE Monkey Island goodness for less than the price of a movie ticket... I'm there. Even though I have the original.
  • edited November 2009
    oh, the game is buggy (menu contols sometimes require the keyboard and the game maps talk options to a bit over where they visually appear: you have to click on the top of the next option)

    buut: if you look at someone, his head is more than 5 pixels wide: you really see eyes! and all the other neat graphical stuff

    aaand: talkie version!

    If, when running The Secret of Monkey Island SE under Vista in fullscreen mode, you find yourself having to consistently click under menu or dialog options to select them, here's a fix that may work for you:

    ■Navigate to the installation folder for The Secret of Monkey Island SE (under Steam, this would default to C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\the secret of monkey island special edition)
    ■Right-click the MISE.exe executable and select Properties
    ■Click on the Compatibility tab
    ■Ensure Disable visual themes is checked
    ■Click OK

    You should now be able to click menu and dialog selections properly when you run the game, without having to "undershoot".

    One caveat is that if you use ALT-ENTER to switch to windowed mode and then switch back to fullscreen, you may be back to "undershooting" until you exit and restart the game. ALT-TAB seems to be a bit more forgiving if you need to switch to another application and back while playing.

    Hope this helps some of you enjoy this title with less frustration.

    Source: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919057
  • edited November 2009
    daro2096 wrote: »
    esp when the old game can be had on Ebay for less.

    good luck, you looked for it on ebay lately?
  • edited November 2009
    punkmario wrote: »
    good luck, you looked for it on ebay lately?

    Yeah, absolute collectors items anymore. Though I think the CD release is fairly priced. Just not a boxed version of the original copies...
  • edited November 2009
    I really can't think of a reason not to get it. I mean, I'm as purist as it gets, but they built this RIGHT on top of the original. I can switch between the re-imagined modern version and the original. It's not a replacement for Secret, sure. But for five bucks, it's a nice, pretty, and overall pretty well-produced reason to go back to Monkey Island one more time.

    I can't think of any major complaints with the Special Edition at all. It's done so faithfully and overall so well that the few hiccups here and there just don't bother me.
  • edited November 2009
    Yes..... The recorded dialogue is worth it alone... New art and having the old version in an easy to install and operate format is just extra.... Plus its fun being able to switch back and forth to see the differences.... Also new sound and music.... its all great.... talking about it makes me want to play it again
  • edited November 2009
    I mean, I'm as purist.

    Me too, I think...I once argued with a class mate in HS and just about got in a fist fight , because he was playing the girl's scout version of Final Fantasy III (Japan) , a remastered and dumbied down version on his DS or whatever he had. He argued it was just as hard and epic as the original rom. I hate remakes, personally.

    If I bought the King's Quest series, I'd want it all in Mac graphics. I hate it when retro games aren't retro ,are made to look all modern, just so that a new generation can relate better to it. Everything gets old and stays that way, remakes are just superficial versions of the original and take away from the true value of a game. People shouldn't be so stupid that they can't acknowledge the age and time something was made in. Classics of an age should not be replaced with quick remakes that toss away the originals.

    Heaven forbid we intellectually grow, have an open mind to older concepts in their un-furbished states and appreciate the accomplishment they are to that era. No, we need shitty remakes to remind us how we just steal ideas every few years and take away from the significance, contribution of our classics and away from their originality.

    Something like that...
  • edited November 2009
    doodo! wrote: »
    Me too, I think...I once argued with a class mate in HS and just about got in a fist fight , because he was playing the girl's scout version of Final Fantasy III (Japan) , a remastered and dumbied down version on his DS or whatever he had. He argued it was just as hard and epic as the original rom. I hate remakes, personally.

    If I bought the King's Quest series, I'd want it all in Mac graphics. I hate it when retro games aren't retro ,are made to look all modern, just so that a new generation can relate better to it. Everything gets old and stays that way, remakes are just superficial versions of the original and take away from the true value of a game. People shouldn't be so stupid that they can't acknowledge the age and time something was made in. Classics of an age should not be replaced with quick remakes that toss away the originals.

    Heaven forbid we intellectually grow, have an open mind to older concepts in their un-furbished states and appreciate the accomplishment they are to that era. No, we need shitty remakes to remind us how we just steal ideas every few years and take away from the significance, contribution of our classics and away from their originality.

    Something like that...

    I'd disagree. Metroid Zero Mission, for example, was an excellent remake. The Metroid series had developed a lot more of a storyline after the release of the NES version of Metroid, and earlier games rarely had the capability to incorporate story with gameplay. Zero Mission did a lot to add a layer of story to the original game, even extending beyond the original ending of the game. And for those who enjoy the nostalgia of the original game, it included the original NES version of Metroid on it. It didn't take away from the original game, it added so much to it.

    As for Final Fantasy III, how dare anyone outside Japan have a legal way to play that game without importing a Famicom and either learning Japanese or struggling with a translation guide. Anyone not willing to either do that or pirate obviously doesn't deserve it.

    I personally enjoyed both versions of SoMI. Older games absolutely have a lot of charm to them, the Monkey Island games being among the best of those, and I love to go back and play them every once in a while. On the other hand, SoMI: SE was stunning visually (other than Guybrush's head), and it was absolutely amazing to get to hear with voices, and I would love to see MI2 get a similar treatment, if nothing else so I can hear Dominic Armato saying lines like "I trust you as far as I can throw Manhattan."

    So I guess my point here is why is it not okay to like both?
  • edited November 2009
    If you're even having to question this, you and I are living on different planets.

    When I heard about the remake, I was expecting to pay somewhere around $30-40 for it, and I would have been happy to.

    The price tag on it was an absolutely steal IMHO.
  • edited November 2009
    I love the special edition and it's worth the more-than-fair price, in my opinion. The art and voice-acting is just wonderful. The only thing that bugged me was Guybrush's design but I got used to it quite quickly and other than that everything is great.

    Of course, there were some things that just didn't quite work in the special edition. Such as the "you've got love written all over your face" joke, but considering you can switch to the old version at the press of a button, it didn't bother me.
  • edited November 2009
    there is a fine line being a fan and loving the old game and being an elitist who will not accept anything new.....

    While I love the old Monkey Island games I will support any special edition they want to make to keep the franchise alive...

    Its funny that a lot of the people claiming to be purists probably where not even old enough to play them when they first came out.... Its the same way with kids nowadays claiming nostalgia for 80's cartoons.... when its pretty clear they just youtubed it or looked it up on wikipedia..
  • edited November 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    there is a fine line being a fan and loving the old game and being an elitist who will not accept anything new.....

    While I love the old Monkey Island games I will support any special edition they want to make to keep the franchise alive...

    Its funny that a lot of the people claiming to be purists probably where not even old enough to play them when they first came out.... Its the same way with kids nowadays claiming nostalgia for 80's cartoons.... when its pretty clear they just youtubed it or looked it up on wikipedia..

    Bah humbug! I'm 22 years old, does it really matter when I started playing Monkey Island though? I still played the original copies, I played the PC version, not the very first version technically, and I still develop an attachment, relationship to them just the same. Perhaps even more so than I could as a over imaginative, short attention spanned child. I was about 14-15 when I first played.

    *HMPH*
    *Clears throat*

    I know all about MOTU, I'm 22 and seen the Christmas special, watched Secret of the Sword, and the live action movie, and have Sheela and Heman records in my room, and the first, second, third comic book editions of MOTU, original copies.

    I collect the action figures, I have Kenner Star Wars playsets, I know all the Rocky movies intimately, more so than some of you 80s boys, I bet. HA! I can cite Pat Benatar and can't even listen to 80s radio anymore because I've heard every song a million times.

    Just because I grew up mostly in the 90s doesn't mean that I didn't grow up in the 80s! :D

    Van Damme
    Stallone
    Arnold
    STTNG
    I've been there done that
    Much more, lol...
  • edited November 2009
    doodo! wrote: »
    I know all about MOTU, I'm 22 and seen the Christmas special, watched Secret of the Sword, and the live action movie, and have Sheela...

    Please return your purist card :P
  • edited November 2009
    Yeah see that is exactly the over defensive stance I am talking about.... LOL

    I am 29 and I can not say I honestly remember watching Star Wars when it was new, I was after all only 3 when the last one was in the theater (the original trilogy anyway).... I found it later when I was a little older to understand it.....
  • edited November 2009
    Shera, oops. LOL Sheela, haha!
    I often wish I was an 80s child, that's why I get all MISTY!
  • edited November 2009
    Can you skip dialogue yet? I remember I couldn't figure out how to do that when using the updated graphics.
  • edited November 2009
    doodo! wrote: »
    Shera, oops. LOL Sheela, haha!

    I often wish I was an 80s child, that's why I get all MISTY!

    I caught SW at the release into theaters, special edition, that was cool but not as cool as seeing it back when, I'd imagine...

    I do feel lucky actually, and It was awesome being a teenager in the 90's..

    Its not so much fun being an adult in this crappy economy though :p
  • edited November 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    I do feel lucky actually, and It was awesome being a teenager in the 90's..

    Its not so much fun being an adult in this crappy economy though :p

    LOL, I know Will Smith rap, does that count for anything? I still think STTNG is one of the best television series ever. I wish I remembered seeing that on TV, I think I was old enough to comprehend that I was watching TV by then, towards its end. The beginning sucked anyways.

    My first movie in theaters was TNMT.or is it TMNT?
  • edited November 2009
    It was TMHT here :p
  • edited November 2009
    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles > Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles..

    Its funny that the word Ninja was too violent for some countries.
  • edited November 2009
    System 3 got in trouble for including some rubber ninja gear with Last Ninja :p
  • edited November 2009
    Filthy ninjas and their stinking marketability towards children... that is why they are so dangerous by the time your children are pretending to be ninjas they are already gone before you could even see them.
  • edited November 2009
    I didn't need any rubber ninja toys, I beat my brother with a regular stick :p
  • edited November 2009
    but Ninjas probably put that idea in your head they are sneaky like that.
  • edited November 2009
    Yes, it was after playing Last Ninja 2 and getting all excited :D
  • edited November 2009
    I would have preferred a remake, honestly. Having upgraded artwork and voices is great, but it really could have used some more animations and music as well as a later version of the SCUMM engine. It was a cool idea to have it built on the original game with the back-and-forth feature, but they could have added to it to give it more polish, and included the original game as a bonus.

    Realistically though, I wouldn't have expected anything more than what they gave us, and it's more than worth the $5-$10 they're charging.
  • edited November 2009
    daro2096 wrote: »
    Is it really worth it to buy the updated Monkey Island?

    Yes.
  • edited November 2009
    Jade Zealot does have a point. A remake would have probably been better, sold better, gotten more people into Monkey Island. On the other hand with the SE we get new voices, music and artwork. And even though I hate the artwork with passion, the voices and music are amasing. And the option to switch between old and new visuals is really helpfull.

    Now go buy it.
  • edited November 2009
    Can you skip the dialogue while using the new graphics? I could never figure out how to do that.
  • edited November 2009
    The Game doesn't even work. No matter what I do, the game crashes. I have not been able to get it to work.
  • edited November 2009
    Armakuni wrote: »
    Can you skip the dialogue while using the new graphics? I could never figure out how to do that.

    It's backspace.
  • edited November 2009
    I still haven't bought it, but I definitely intend to. The reason I've been putting it off is because I was hoping for a DVD release. I often worry about relying on direct downloads just in case my hard drive crashes or something. It's not got anything to do with whether or not it's worth it. I'm looking into hard drive backup software at the moment, so maybe someday soon!

    A remake would have been good too, for the animation side of it. But then I seriously doubt you'd get the option to switch between the classic and updated, as the programming would be different.

    I really appreciate that LucasArts are bringing back their classics, for the original fans and for those who missed out the first time. So I want to support them and encourage them that they're doing a good thing. (I'm not just talking about special editions, I also mean their classic SCUMM games they're selling on Steam)
  • edited November 2009
    The amazing music, the spoken dialogues and the gorgeous hand-painted backgrounds are definitely worth the (low) cost: what would you buy for $9?
  • edited November 2009
    I bought it mainly to support Lucasarts actually doing something with their old adventure games again... I doubt I'll ever play it through.

    Not that's not good... well, it's decent.. but I don't really like the new look all that much.
    To me it looks a bit too much like a 'cheap' flash game or something... well, I just prefer the original style and I kind of wish they would have kept that when remaking it.
  • edited November 2009
    Armakuni wrote: »
    I bought it mainly to support Lucasarts actually doing something with their old adventure games again... I doubt I'll ever play it through.

    Almost did the same thing.:)
  • edited November 2009
    I bought it because I played it nearly 20 years ago on my Atari ST, which wasn't as nice looking as the PC version and now that's somewhere in a damp shed rotting away in the original box on floppy disks.

    I thought that the new Special Edition digital download version was definitely worth the price. These days £6.99 is cheap compared to other stuff! And it was really well done with high def graphics and the voices were great too. I also bought Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis along with it for £2.99 - definitely bargain prices worth going for.

    I'm glad that now they are bringing back retro games as downloads and not charging ridiculous prices for them, because a) they might be games I never got a chance to buy when they were available in stores and b) I might have lost the originals.

    There shouldn't be any reason these days for anything to be "out of print" and not sold in stores any more - they should make everything available online! Not just games, that should go for music, TV shows, movies and books and more!
  • edited November 2009
    I assumed it would be £30 and i would be happy to buy it so I was exstatic to find out it was £7
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