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hope, that TellTale Games visiting this forum, and if they are not, I'll send them a letter (through my TellTale account).
So, let's write all game bugs you saw in game.
-Light. Sometimes Max become Black on the roof of pizzeria, and another places.
-Pieces of models are viewed. Example - Max's body got shadow on one part, and dont have on another. This makes stripes on him.
And whatever, I want to talk about another thing. I know friends, who have bought S&M only for TF2 items, so they completed game without any interest. Another friends completed game for "competing", without any talks, clicking on the objects and even skipping all the diologs! One friend didn't saw Sam and Max inside of Max's brain! (First teleportation).
How change this? Achievments! Steam achievments is great thing! It can motivate people for finding objects, talk more or even complete game more than 4 times! You can make achievments like "Don't skip any diolog" or "Watch at all possible objects with Futurevision", "Talk all diologs" and another things! Moreover you can hide something special and make an achievment like "Find XXX". This is always interesting and everybody loves achievments!
So, let's write all game bugs you saw in game.
-Light. Sometimes Max become Black on the roof of pizzeria, and another places.
-Pieces of models are viewed. Example - Max's body got shadow on one part, and dont have on another. This makes stripes on him.
And whatever, I want to talk about another thing. I know friends, who have bought S&M only for TF2 items, so they completed game without any interest. Another friends completed game for "competing", without any talks, clicking on the objects and even skipping all the diologs! One friend didn't saw Sam and Max inside of Max's brain! (First teleportation).
How change this? Achievments! Steam achievments is great thing! It can motivate people for finding objects, talk more or even complete game more than 4 times! You can make achievments like "Don't skip any diolog" or "Watch at all possible objects with Futurevision", "Talk all diologs" and another things! Moreover you can hide something special and make an achievment like "Find XXX". This is always interesting and everybody loves achievments!
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Oh ho ho ho. That's what YOU think.
This only really applies to the XBox, where savvy companies have realised that giving their games easy to get achievements can help sales, even if the game is bad. There's a lot of sad individuals who treat their GamerScore as an extension of themselves and they must get it as high as possible.
I know at least one steam user who does not care how good a game is as long as it has achievements he will buy it.
The shadows thing is said to happen without realtime shadows. So I assume you run graphics setting 6 or lower?
As for "achievements" I would agree, although not exactly like you say, but more like the 'did you try?' lists. I even said as such (and went into great detail how it would work in my mind) to TTG in the pre-order super secret forum first thread.
Odd when it happens in a cutscene though...
wtf :S
Sam's head follow the pointer, so, I get that problem when the cursor is in the border of the screen.
Turn off 'Notification Sounds' it helps quite a bit.
You can even turn off notifications completely [which should also work for achievement notifications] but turning off the sound is enough for me personally.
Assuming you're talking about Xbox.
Hell, often (especially in ME) I completely missed that I got an achievement at all...
As I already stated in the top-secret site, it could work just fine as some kind of "Did you try?" list, not everyone reads these boards. And read about engaging Max and similar hilarious thing they may have missed... It would be handy to have such inside the game to reference to... (IMHO)
In say Assassins Creed 2 you actully get like 3-5 achivements before the damn game really starts, you watch a cutscene, you move a bit, then another cutscene.
If they wanna do achivements fine, but just include a big options to turn said achivement totally off, i just dont wanna see, hear anything then im happy really
Sweet zombie Christ hunting for Easter eggs while being chased by a man-eating bunny with rabies that's some bad grammar. I've taken the liberty of cleaning it up a bit so it has a better presentation. Replace what you have in the opening post with the revision and you'll probably get more activity in this thread; possibly attention from the developers as well.
More on topic: I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one having graphical glitches in my game. I thought maybe it was because I was having to run it at obscenely low graphics to have a decent frame rate. In terms of people who buy the game but don't experience it to its fullest extent; it's their loss. Telltale got their money which means the marketing tactics worked. If your friends chose not to enjoy the game by simply skipping parts of it, or had no prior knowledge about it I advise you introduce them the earlier seasons so they can get their money's worth out of what they bought.
However when done subtle it's no harm at all, and can indeed add give the game a few additional "goals" when it's freestyle anyway (think a builder game as Anno 1404, which I think is sofar the best implentation of Achievements I have seen yet).
... and ...
"With a handful of ribbons I can conquer all of Europe"
-Napoleon Bonaparte
He was the first guy to realize that you can motivate human behavior on a large scale by awarding achievements.
And so it stays unbelieveable that there are no Achievements for all your Steam-versios of the games to this date when even Napoleon knew they are awesome. I would consider them some sort of compensation for not getting the DVD... (Can you believe I rebought The Strong Bad Season here to get the DVD?)
It would make me rebuy ToMI on steam. (I already have the rest of your games over there)
And it would make some people buy the games solely based on the fact that they have steam achievements (trust me on that one). There might have been even some people that bought S&M S3 only for a pair of rabbit-ears....
If I click on something and get an amusing line from Sam or Max, that's an achievement.
If I try to use objects or a power in a funny way, and get an amusing line or just something funny happens, that's an achievement.
I don't need some list somewhere reminding me of all the great stuff I did. I was there at the time, I can remember. I don't care about other people knowing whether I managed to, I dunno, click on the 20 drunken pigeons throughout the game. It's pointless.
If somebody has only bought the game for a TF2 item, then ... they are a douche-bag.
If somebody has only bought the game to complete and not care one bit about the story, characters, or attention to detail that TTG have lovingly lathered this game with, then ... I'm sorry, that somebody is a douche-bag.
For TTG to spend hours or even days working an achievements system into these games is not only pointless but counter-productive. Why should they waste any time implementing a feature just to appease the shallow wishes of what must amount to a tiny fraction of the people who buy their games?
What I'm saying is: if somebody is buying the game only for achievements, they don't deserve to own it anyway.
Not very open minded, are you?
I'm agree finish the game itself should be enough achievement, but, some people still need Ribbons to feel awesome, and apparently good part of the gaming population doesn't have another way to feel awesome... so, let's them be.
for the 360 and PS3 Trophys and Achievements are included in the game.
He does that in every game, it's not specific to the third season.
I liked how they had recorded different versions of it, but I missed the old one, I have to admit.
If in the first case, TTG already spends time on achievements anyway, making the point of the guy I was quoting moot...
M$ and $ony don't make games. The Achievements are a requirement for every 360-title and the developers are responsible for them iirc.
It should be the same for trophys.
You guys adding it in the game would make sense, but you still would need to know how to get the system to recognise it's unlocked (but that's probably explained anyway to devs) but them adding it also makes sense, since it's their consoles and they evaluate the games before shipment anyway. I agree...
I'm pretty sure Yare meant they let the TT devs know what coding they need for the achievements to activate, per console, and it's up to TT to write it all in.
Nah. I think is just because they change it. After a while, it'll be alright
I was kind of wondering for a while, but here's pretty much the only place devs post to actually get an answer anyway.
And yeah, people who play games only for the achievements need to straighten out their priorities. That shouldn't stop Telltale from going after those poor misguided fellows' money, though, unless it leads to, say, exclusive console bonus content that never shows up upon the PC version.*
*I'm still waiting for those Nutrition Specs....
You are not the only one but I guess there is a reason it is called 5-16-vision now with nutrition specs.
Yes, that's true - I'm quite surprised some people didn't notice. I think they're hilarious!