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The Telltale Complaining History Thread

Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
edited June 2010 in General Chat
So I've decided to post a small history of all the things people complained the most about on the Telltale Forums in the time I've been around. Just as a little study. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with any of them, I'm only posting them to show off exactly how much people complain.

Bone being discontinued
Sam and Max being too easy
Sam and Max being too challenging
Wallace and Gromit being too easy
No Peter Sallis playing Wallace
Wallace and Gromit DVD
Tales being in 3D and not 2D
Wiiware delays
Wiiware graphics suck
Wiiware pricing
Sam and Max being too demanding
Sam and Max being too buggy
Tales screenshots look like crap
Tales graphics look too plastic
New Guybrush looks like crap
New LeChuck looks like a gorilla
New Elaine looks like crap
Mike Stemmle working on Tales (sort of)
Tales being too easy
Tales jungle mazes
Tales reuse of models
Click and Drag in MI
No Earl Boen
LeChuck's laughter
Tales boat intro being too shaky
Tales being too watered down
Tales being too light-hearted
Tales being too compressed
No Sam and Max Hit the Road
No Freelance Police
No Plunge Through Space
No Bill Farmer
No Nick Jameson
No Harvey Atkin
No Robert Tinkler
Tales graphics being too demanding
Reuse of jungle mazes
Mermaids
Morgan's death scene
Voodoo Lady plot twist
Earl Boen not sounding right
Tales puzzles too easy
Nelson Tethers looks like a Flash game
Click and Drag in Sam and Max
Click and Drag icon in Sam and Max
TF2 Sam and Max items
Special psychic power in the Playstation Penal Zone
Shipping taking too long
Telltale making Jurassic Park games
Telltale not making Back to the Future instead
Telltale making Back to the Future as well
No more Monkey Island for a while
The DVD Purcell slipcover
That time Jake shouted Satan's praises on the forums
Telltale having a puppy eating ritual
Tim Curry not being in Jurassic Park
Telltale not making Futurama AGAIN
Complaining about complaining
Complaining about complaining about complaining
the various cries about the controls in every game since Wallace and Gromit

EMI sucks
CMI sucks
Everything not made specifically by Ron Gilbert sucks
Ron Gilbert fanboys/girls suck
Roger Ebert is arrogant and wrong
Whether games are art or not doesn't matter
Chyron's Tales shipping deadline countdown is annoying
Avistew hasn't been posting enough pictures of her boobs
Chuck Jordan leaving the company
The map and coins in the deluxe edition being fail
The gap between each episode
Earl Boen not voicing every line in the intro to chapter 1
Tales not being dark enough
Tales being too dark
Tales not giving the same feeling of nostalgia as the original 3
The icon for Narwhal doesn't match the other four
Telltale not hiring me

My diagnoses in the end is that...most of you are a bunch of whiny...yeah. Hooray for the internet!

So yeah...let me know if I left anything out. I'd just LOVE to make this list bigger, oh yes. I didn't die a little inside at the fact that this list can never be shortened, but can only get much much bigger. A piece of my very soul didn't begin crying after I accepted this fact. Nope. Not at all.
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  • TorTor
    edited June 2010
    And now you can add a new item to your list:
    • Too much complaining on the Telltale forums
    The irony is palpable.
  • NagaokaNagaoka
    edited June 2010
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    Telltale not making Back to the Future instead
    Telltale making Back to the Future as well

    LOL. So true too.
  • Hassat HunterHassat Hunter
    edited June 2010
    Sam&Max S3 being too demanding, buggy.
    Re-appearing characters.
    Their baby-making farms for their baby-eating needs.

    Etc. etc.
    Your list is far from complete...
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    You've missed a great deal, obviously due to your more recent join date. Especially things about Telltale's business model as a whole, and a metric fuckton of aspects of the Sam and Max games.

    I find that threads like these are entirely pointless. When you're complaining about something, when you hold it up to any form of critical analysis, you're at least informing others of the flaws of something. When you're complaining about people who complain, the only message I get is that people don't want to realize that they aren't as happy with something as they've convinced themselves that they are. Telling people that their complaints simply aren't valid more or less amounts to a big "NO U", it doesn't contribute anything.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    And now you can add a new item to your list:
    • Too much complaining on the Telltale forums
    The irony is palpable.

    people complaning about people complaning.
  • FriarFriar
    edited June 2010
    you forgot yare saying "the iphone is more powerfull than the wii"
    Also "wiiware delays" and "wiiware quality" and "wiiware pricing" And translations.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2010
    ITT

    Complaining about complaining-

    =

    Pointing out all the complaining-

    I just don't think people realize how much complaining they do. They complain about one thing, eventually forget about it, and move on to complain about something else. They don't even realize they're doing it Also first post updated.
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    I don't think "people" are all the same person with a constant flow of issues.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2010
    The people complaining act in unision or similarly enough for me to consistently lump them together as an entity.

    EDIT: Updated the list again.
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    Can you? You haven't really done any empirical statistics on the matter, and considering that almost half the list contradicts itself, you seem to have at the very least two factions of people whose issues are being lumped together in order to fill up a list whose point is dubious at best.

    Looking at this list, for example, I personally only identify with a handful of the issues. I'm sure most people identify with their own handful, and there are just enough people that certain viewpoints get noticeable support. I doubt this could be considered a laundry list of issues for any given person.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2010
    Empirical what? I don't know what that means.

    Right that would matter if I was saying that any given person was complaining about all of these things. I'm lumping everyone together as a forum and as the "complainers" category, not as people who were angry about each and every one of these issues. The issue at hand isn't who was mad about what, it was that this forum complains entirely too much about everything. Either that or Telltale really are a bunch of reprehensible bastards who do shoddy work at every turn and shouldn't be trusted and should be shunned as a company. Hmm.
  • taumeltaumel
    edited June 2010
    *lol*

    Bone beeing discontinued.
    :
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited June 2010
    You forgot the various cries about the controls in every game since Wallace & Grommit.
  • lattsamlattsam
    edited June 2010
    You forgot to include:

    No Sam and Max Hit the Road
    No Freelance Police
    No Plunge Through Space
    No Bill Farmer
    No Nick Jameson
    No Harvey Atkin
    No Robert Tinkler

    Pretty much covers complaint about Sam and Max so far. ^_^
  • Hassat HunterHassat Hunter
    edited June 2010
    Rather Dashing wrote: »
    I find that threads like these are entirely pointless.
    Pointlessness seems to run rampant here though. What's up with all the X appreciation threads?
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2010
    Hassat Hunter wrote: »
    What's up with all the X appreciation threads?

    X rules
  • AvistewAvistew
    edited June 2010
    Now, a game for everyone! Repeat the list and mark which you agree with! Fun for the whole family!
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    Empirical what? I don't know what that means.

    Right that would matter if I was saying that any given person was complaining about all of these things. I'm lumping everyone together as a forum and as the "complainers" category, not as people who were angry about each and every one of these issues. The issue at hand isn't who was mad about what, it was that this forum complains entirely too much about everything. Either that or Telltale really are a bunch of reprehensible bastards who do shoddy work at every turn and shouldn't be trusted and should be shunned as a company. Hmm.
    OR people have a large variety of opinions, and everyone has their own praise and issues with the company that they have to offer. We have to learn to live with people who dislike things that we like and who love things that we despise, because people having negative opinions isn't an epidemic, it's just one aspect of the way every person views the things they encounter in their lives. It seems incredibly reductionist to view complaints and negative feedback the way you do, especially with a company that is so well known for interacting with fans and reacting to customer feedback. Maybe we're all allowed to have a handful of things that are pet peeves, or really annoying, or important detractors from the quality of a thing that perhaps everybody else doesn't share. Maybe, just maybe, people CAN have opinions within a spectrum, rather than a black/white "I HATE THEM AND THEY ARE THIEVES" and "I LOVE THEM THEY ARE PERFECT". Maybe with all the people on these forums, it combines into a TON of praise and criticism that doesn't come together as a single, monolithic voice that decries or prays to Telltale, but instead act as a sea of voices with a variety of opinions. Maybe, just maybe, we can just try to get along instead of looking at each other's opinions, pointing them out, and saying "Man, that's dumb and you should stop that."
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    Now, a game for everyone! Repeat the list and mark which you agree with! Fun for the whole family!
    I considered doing this, but thought it was a dickish move. But hey, now Avistew The Popular One suggested it, so I guess it's OK!

    1. Bone being discontinued
    2. Sam and Max being too easy(Only for select episodes, less than a season's worth)
    Sam and Max being too challenging
    Wallace and Gromit being too easy
    No Peter Sallis playing Wallace
    3. Wallace and Gromit DVD(Biggest infraction in Telltale history)
    Tales being in 3D and not 2D
    Wiiware delays
    Wiiware graphics suck
    Wiiware pricing
    Sam and Max being too demanding
    Sam and Max being too buggy
    Tales screenshots look like crap
    Tales graphics look too plastic
    New Guybrush looks like crap
    New LeChuck looks like a gorilla
    New Elaine looks like crap
    Mike Stemmle working on Tales (sort of)
    4. Tales being too easy(A few too many episodes for my liking)
    Tales jungle mazes
    Tales reuse of models
    Click and Drag in MI
    No Earl Boen
    LeChuck's laughter
    Tales boat intro being too shaky
    5. Tales being too watered down
    6. Tales being too light-hearted(Episode 1 only)
    Tales being too compressed
    No Sam and Max Hit the Road
    No Freelance Police
    No Plunge Through Space
    No Bill Farmer
    No Nick Jameson
    No Harvey Atkin
    No Robert Tinkler
    Tales graphics being too demanding
    Reuse of jungle mazes
    Mermaids
    Morgan's death scene
    Voodoo Lady plot twist
    Earl Boen not sounding right
    4a. Tales puzzles too easy(This one is a repeat of an earlier one)
    Nelson Tethers looks like a Flash game
    Click and Drag in Sam and Max
    Click and Drag icon in Sam and Max
    TF2 Sam and Max items
    Special psychic power in the Playstation Penal Zone
    Shipping taking too long
    7. Telltale making Jurassic Park games
    Telltale not making Back to the Future instead
    8. Telltale making Back to the Future as well
    No more Monkey Island for a while
    9. The DVD Purcell slipcover
    That time Jake shouted Satan's praises on the forums
    Telltale having a puppy eating ritual
    Tim Curry not being in Jurassic Park
    Telltale not making Futurama AGAIN
    Complaining about complaining
    10. Complaining about complaining about complaining
    the various cries about the controls in every game since Wallace and Gromit

    There we go, that seems to cover it.
  • guitarsareboringguitarsareboring
    edited June 2010
    You can take this list and flip each one, I'm sure you'd find an example of someone saying these things.... (these aren't all my opinions)

    I didn't like Bone, I'm glad they aren't making more. They can concentrate on other things that I like!
    Sam and Max is just the right level of difficulty.
    Wallace and Gromit is quite easy, I like it that way
    The guy who plays Wallace does a pretty good job.
    Oh good, there's a Wallace and Gromit DVD now.
    Tales looks great in 3D.
    Wow, Monkey Island on Wiiware!
    Sam and Max looks great on my machine, I'm really glad they increased system requirements.
    Sam and Max is buggy, but I don't mind, it's workable.
    Tales screenshots look amazing.
    Tales graphics look fantastic.
    New Guybrush looks exactly how I hoped he'd look.
    New LeChuck looks ace.
    New Elaine looks superb.
    Mike Stemmle working on Tales (sort of) is a good thing.
    Tales was just the right difficulty.

    ...you get the idea. I'm too tired to continue.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2010
    @Dashing

    So you don't think people can complain too much?

    (looks up reductionism)

    Okay. I haven't gone to college yet. I'm a pre-college grad. I don't learn about things like this until someone says it and I wiki it. To a point, it does sound a bit like how I view things, yes. Perhaps. I'll know for sure once I figure out what everything in the Wiki page means.

    Also.

    Bone being discontinued
    Sam and Max being too easy
    Sam and Max being too challenging
    Wallace and Gromit being too easy
    No Peter Sallis playing Wallace
    Wallace and Gromit DVD
    Tales being in 3D and not 2D
    Wiiware delays
    Wiiware graphics suck
    Wiiware pricing
    Sam and Max being too demanding
    Sam and Max being too buggy
    Tales screenshots look like crap
    Tales graphics look too plastic
    New Guybrush looks like crap
    New LeChuck looks like a gorilla
    New Elaine looks like crap
    Mike Stemmle working on Tales (sort of)
    Tales being too easy
    Tales jungle mazes
    Tales reuse of models
    Click and Drag in MI
    No Earl Boen
    LeChuck's laughter
    Tales boat intro being too shaky
    Tales being too watered down
    Tales being too light-hearted
    Tales being too compressed
    No Sam and Max Hit the Road
    No Freelance Police
    No Plunge Through Space
    No Bill Farmer
    No Nick Jameson
    No Harvey Atkin
    No Robert Tinkler
    Tales graphics being too demanding
    Reuse of jungle mazes
    Mermaids
    Morgan's death scene
    Voodoo Lady plot twist
    Earl Boen not sounding right
    Tales puzzles too easy
    Nelson Tethers looks like a Flash game
    Click and Drag in Sam and Max
    Click and Drag icon in Sam and Max
    TF2 Sam and Max items
    Special psychic power in the Playstation Penal Zone
    Shipping taking too long
    Telltale making Jurassic Park games
    Telltale not making Back to the Future instead
    Telltale making Back to the Future as well
    No more Monkey Island for a while
    The DVD Purcell slipcover
    That time Jake shouted Satan's praises on the forums
    Telltale having a puppy eating ritual
    Tim Curry not being in Jurassic Park
    Telltale not making Futurama AGAIN
    Complaining about complaining
    Complaining about complaining about complaining
    Telltale hasn't hired me yet
    the various cries about the controls in every game since Wallace and Gromit
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    @Dashing

    So you don't think people can complain too much?
    Individual PEOPLE can, sure, especially when their complaints aren't really backed by anything. But when a large group of people have a lot of complaints when added together because each individual has a different set of 10 or less issues within a 5-year history, it doesn't seem too bad.

    Essentially, I do think you're overly simplifying things. Reducing a matter to base pieces can be a useful mental exercise, but I think you've eliminated large and important parts of the equation. I think you're being too combative without really offering any constructive reasons as to why we shouldn't be allowed to have and express certain negative opinions, just some vague idea that negative opinions as a whole are universally a bad thing. I may be misunderstanding something, but it just seems like "You guys complain a lot" isn't exactly a constructive or important thing to say.
  • AvistewAvistew
    edited June 2010
    Rather Dashing wrote: »
    I considered doing this, but thought it was a dickish move. But hey, now Avistew The Popular One suggested it, so I guess it's OK!

    Yay! Gonna change my title to "The Popular One"

    Bone being discontinued
    Sam and Max being too easy
    Sam and Max being too challenging
    Wallace and Gromit being too easy
    No Peter Sallis playing Wallace
    1. Wallace and Gromit DVD (Big, big disappointment. I'm not even sure what happened there)
    2. Tales being in 3D and not 2D (Let's be fair, I always prefer 2D, so while I don't think I complained about it, especially since Telltale makes everything in 3D so it would be silly, I would definitely like it better in 2D)
    Wiiware delays
    Wiiware graphics suck
    Wiiware pricing
    3. Sam and Max being too demanding
    Sam and Max being too buggy
    Tales screenshots look like crap
    Tales graphics look too plastic
    New Guybrush looks like crap
    New LeChuck looks like a gorilla
    New Elaine looks like crap
    Mike Stemmle working on Tales (sort of)
    4. Tales being too easy
    5. Tales jungle mazes (To be fair, it would have been better if I had realised you could run before the last episode)
    6. Tales reuse of models (I usually don't care about that, but I actually mixed up people a LOT and that was a problem)
    7. Click and Drag in MI (Maybe this one should count twice :p)
    No Earl Boen
    LeChuck's laughter
    Tales boat intro being too shaky
    Tales being too watered down
    Tales being too light-hearted
    Tales being too compressed
    No Sam and Max Hit the Road
    No Freelance Police
    No Plunge Through Space
    No Bill Farmer
    No Nick Jameson
    No Harvey Atkin
    No Robert Tinkler
    Tales graphics being too demanding
    Reuse of jungle mazes
    Mermaids
    Morgan's death scene
    Voodoo Lady plot twist
    Earl Boen not sounding right
    Nelson Tethers looks like a Flash game
    8. Click and Drag in Sam and Max (Well, since it's pretty much the same thing as 7 as far as I'm concern, I guess it DOES count twice)
    Click and Drag icon in Sam and Max
    TF2 Sam and Max items
    Special psychic power in the Playstation Penal Zone
    Shipping taking too long
    9. Telltale making Jurassic Park games
    Telltale not making Back to the Future instead
    10. Telltale making Back to the Future as well
    No more Monkey Island for a while
    11. The DVD Purcell slipcover
    That time Jake shouted Satan's praises on the forums
    Telltale having a puppy eating ritual
    Tim Curry not being in Jurassic Park
    Telltale not making Futurama AGAIN
    Complaining about complaining
    Complaining about complaining about complaining
    the various cries about the controls in every game since Wallace and Gromit (Should I choose this one instead of 7 and 8? It's really all the same thing).

    You can add:
    12. The way the ToMI merch looks
    13. The fact they keep anouncing non-original IPs (Although both Jurassic Park and Back to the Future fall into that one, really)
    14. The fact the games are less and less like games and more and more like movies

    And let it be recorded I complain about more stuff than Rather Dashing does, in the interest of fairness.
  • doodinthemooddoodinthemood
    edited June 2010
    The Deluxe ToMI Map has a border
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2010
    @ Dashing

    On a completely unimportant note, negative opinions is a misleading expression. There's no set positive or negative because what is positive for me will be negative for another person and vice versa. My positive is someone else's negative. So I can't say it's universally bad. You could say I'm actively working it out for myself as I go as well. I'm saying that there's too much of it. Ridiculously so, like something out of a parody. My why is that quite often people take it way too far and again that there is too much of it too often, often over the most trivial things, like in the instance of the Sam and Max TF2 items and Glasses on the Playstation, both items which everyone started complaining about solely out of a misplaced sense of entitlement. What parts am I missing or leaving out? Or did you already say?
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    And let it be recorded I complain about more stuff than Rather Dashing does, in the interest of fairness.
    Aha, but you cheated! You included two complaints that are the same thing. When I numbered such complaints, I didn't make it an extra number! So really, you only have NINE complaints before you started randomly adding some! I still win the most obstinate person game! :cool:
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    @ Dashing

    On a completely unimportant note, negative opinions is a misleading expression. There's no set positive or negative because what is positive for me will be negative for another person and vice versa. My positive is someone else's negative. So I can't say it's universally bad. You could say I'm actively working it out for myself as I go as well. I'm saying that there's too much of it. Ridiculously so, like something out of a parody. My why is that quite often people take it way too far and again that there is too much of it too often, often over the most trivial things, like in the instance of the Sam and Max TF2 items and Glasses on the Playstation, both items which everyone started complaining about solely out of a misplaced sense of entitlement. What parts am I missing or leaving out? Or did you already say?
    I think you're leaving out that more or less the complaints aren't coming from any vocal group as a whole. I'm saying that the same people who complain about a few things praise a great deal more. I'm not here because I hate Telltale, none of us are. We all have things that we love and that we'll praise when they're done exceptionally well or when they're relevant, because for the most part the people who are active in the community over an extended period of time actually like the company. If someone complains, it's generally because they liked a lot more and that these things are EXCEPTIONS that people really hope Telltale will change in the future. The DVD snafu for Wallace and Gromit lead to a HUGE outcry, and it seems it's a mistake that is not going to be repeated in the near future. People complained a LOT about Earl Boen, and look what came of that? People took issue with the TF2 items, and it seems some inter-office memos were exchanged and we got them. People complained about the lack of commentary on the SBCG4AP and Wallace & Gromit discs, and now we get full episode commentaries again in Tales.

    Things have made changes for the better, because people voiced their concerns. If not in the release that was somehow less than what it should have been, then in the next one. And I think that the people who do complain the loudest are often the people who like the company the most, because they know that Telltale can do better and has done better. Yes, you also have your obstinate asses that are just going around and LOOKING for something to consumer rage about, but generally I think it's down to people who genuinely care about what they're getting and who have realistic and reachable expectations.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2010
    We're lucky that Telltale does care about it's fans. If it didn't, we'd be complaining and NOTHING good would come out of it. The good that comes out of it happens because both sides (Telltale and the fans) meet each other halfway and do what they can. But you know what, this may be the fastest turnaround for me ever, but I don't see anything in what you said I disagree with. You're right I wasn't looking at the big picture at all. And in that light, I guess I prefer the complaining if that's what comes out of it.
  • Giant TopeGiant Tope
    edited June 2010
    My list.
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    Bone being discontinued
    Sam and Max being too easy
    Sam and Max being too challenging
    Wallace and Gromit being too easy
    No Peter Sallis playing Wallace
    Wallace and Gromit DVD
    Tales being in 3D and not 2D
    Wiiware delays
    Wiiware graphics suck
    Wiiware pricing
    Sam and Max being too demanding
    Sam and Max being too buggy
    Tales screenshots look like crap
    Tales graphics look too plastic
    New Guybrush looks like crap
    New LeChuck looks like a gorilla
    New Elaine looks like crap
    Mike Stemmle working on Tales (sort of)
    Tales being too easy
    Tales jungle mazes
    Tales reuse of models
    Click and Drag in MI
    No Earl Boen
    LeChuck's laughter
    Tales boat intro being too shaky
    Tales being too watered down
    Tales being too light-hearted
    Tales being too compressed
    No Sam and Max Hit the Road
    No Freelance Police
    No Plunge Through Space
    No Bill Farmer
    No Nick Jameson
    No Harvey Atkin
    No Robert Tinkler
    Tales graphics being too demanding
    Reuse of jungle mazes
    Mermaids
    Morgan's death scene
    Voodoo Lady plot twist
    Earl Boen not sounding right
    Tales puzzles too easy
    Nelson Tethers looks like a Flash game
    Click and Drag in Sam and Max
    Click and Drag icon in Sam and Max
    TF2 Sam and Max items
    Special psychic power in the Playstation Penal Zone
    Shipping taking too long
    Telltale making Jurassic Park games
    Telltale not making Back to the Future instead
    Telltale making Back to the Future as well
    No more Monkey Island for a while
    The DVD Purcell slipcover
    That time Jake shouted Satan's praises on the forums
    Telltale having a puppy eating ritual
    Tim Curry not being in Jurassic Park
    Telltale not making Futurama AGAIN
    Complaining about complaining
    Complaining about complaining about complaining
    the various cries about the controls in every game since Wallace and Gromit

    wow. I don't like complaining apparently.

    I'm pretty sure I was a little upset over the ipad thing, but I got over that within two minutes when I saw how everyone was being ridiculous.
  • AvistewAvistew
    edited June 2010
    Okay, to respond to Dashing's complain, I have grouped things that in my opinion are one and the same, related or subcategories of the same thing.
    Here is my updated list.

    1. Wallace and Gromit DVD (Big, big disappointment. I'm not even sure what happened there)

    2. The games being in 3D and not 2D

    3. The fact the games are less and less like games and more and more like movies
    3a. the various cries about the controls in every game since Wallace and Gromit
    3a1. Click and Drag in MI
    3a2. Click and Drag in Sam and Max
    3b. Sam and Max being too demanding
    3c. Tales being too easy

    4. Tales jungle mazes (To be fair, it would have been better if I had realised you could run before the last episode)

    5. Tales reuse of models (I usually don't care about that per se, but I actually mixed up people a LOT and that was a problem)

    6. The fact they keep anouncing non-original IPs
    6a. Telltale making Jurassic Park games
    6b. Telltale making Back to the Future as well

    7. The way the ToMI merch looks
    7a. The DVD Purcell slipcover

    EDIT: okay, updated it in a way I think reflects more what's related to what. I also wish to add, in accordance with what RD said, which I think might change (if not right away, in the future) if I voice the fact I don't like it:
    1, 4, 5, 7... possibly 6 to a very small extent, as it depends on more external things.
  • Lena_PLena_P
    edited June 2010
    Wait, we can make suggestions for Avistew's titles and stuff? I think you should change your sig to "Avistew, maker of Skull Caps!" Huh? Huh? Ya get it?

    Let's see ... on that list ... yeah, nothing I'd complain about. I guess I've complained about the complainers, but that's pretty much only when people would not shut up about how much they disliked direct control to the point that single users were creating multiple threads about it, although in different forums, and could not accept people might like direct control. Explaining why you don't like something, fine. Saying that it is inherently stupid and TTG is lying about why they switched and anyone who says they like the new way is a lying kiss-up, not so much.

    Um, the non-S&M DVDs were slightly disappointing as well, but since they're more extras I'm not too upset. It does kind of suck that Telltale can't spend the time on those extraneous, cool bits like they used to, I miss the awesome trailers the most, but I guess they don't have the resources for it right now. Of course, if they never get those resources and stick to more conventional, dull trailers and limited extras I will be upset.
  • jeeno0142jeeno0142
    edited June 2010
    I'm not one to complain about much, myself. I wouldn't even want to complain about the complainers complaining about the complaints. It makes for interesting reading hearing peoples opinions.

    Did I make any sense just then? I'm not sure I did.
  • RemolayRemolay
    edited June 2010
    how did we get this far without mentioning

    The Penal Zone Getting Released on iPad first
    Tomb of Sammun-Mak not being released on iPad first
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited June 2010
    Telltale making Jurassic Park games
    Telltale not making Back to the Future instead
    Telltale making Back to the Future as well

    I enjoyed watching this chain of forum complaints unfold.
  • AvistewAvistew
    edited June 2010
    Jake wrote: »
    I enjoyed watching this chain of forum complaints unfold.
    I know when Back to the Future was announced, my first reaction was to laugh due to a post I made. Let me find it and I'll edit it into this post.

    EDIT: Here you go:
    Avistew wrote: »
    splash1 wrote: »
    What good what a LBT game be, anyway? Why would we want too play as a dumbass "long neck" when we could play Marty McFly, or whoever the star of Jurassic Park is.
    I think I'd like a LBT game best of the three :p

    I had a good laugh about that.
  • GuruGuru214GuruGuru214
    edited June 2010
    Jake wrote: »
    I enjoyed watching this chain of forum complaints unfold.

    Anyone ever tell you you're sort of a sick man?
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited June 2010
    GuruGuru214 wrote: »
    Anyone ever tell you you're sort of a sick man?
    I think my words were "Snarky-ass bastard", but I can't be entirely sure. If I didn't say it before, then I have now. :cool:
  • AvistewAvistew
    edited June 2010
    Jake has always* had a weird sense of humour, that involves trollish posts and apparently, enjoying watching people complain as long as there is enough irony in it.

    *definition of "always" may vary depending on your location. Limited stock. No rainchecks.
  • GuruGuru214GuruGuru214
    edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    *definition of "always" may vary depending on your location. Limited stock. No rainchecks.

    I see Jake's not the only one with a weird sense of humor.
  • thesporkmanthesporkman
    edited June 2010
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    That time Jake shouted Satan's praises on the forums

    That sounds hilarious. Anyone care to link to it?
    Avistew wrote:
    The fact the games are less and less like games and more and more like movies

    What exactly do you mean by that? Do you just mean the more movie-like cinematography and animation that Telltale's been striving for? I personally love the direction they've been going in this respect. Or do you feel the games are somehow less interactive than they could be? In my opinion Telltale's one of the few game companies today that has managed to blend together the story and gameplay elements so well. I feel like a lot of other games from other companies fall into the trap of telling the story just in cut scenes and having only semi-related gameplay that's more of a distraction from the plot than anything else. I feel like Telltale's managed to seamlessly blend together cut scenes, gameplay, and stories in a way that no other developer has really managed.
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