I wanted to be a paleontologist as a kid too. I read so many books and journal articles and stuff, spent hours and hours at the natural history museum, collected a gazillion little plastic dinosaurs, and went to an allosaurus dig in Utah.
Then, I realized that a huge part of paleontology meant standing around in the hot sun all day finding nothing and decided my interests lay more in a dark, cool lab.:D
I wanted to be a paleontologist as a kid too. I read so many books and journal articles and stuff, spent hours and hours at the natural history museum, collected a gazillion little plastic dinosaurs, and went to an allosaurus dig in Utah.
Then, I realized that a huge part of paleontology meant standing around in the hot sun all day finding nothing and decided my interests lay more in a dark, cool lab.:D
See I love the desert, and I love the lab, so really wouldn't bother me, what I'm going to do.
See I love the desert, and I love the lab, so really wouldn't bother me, what I'm going to do.
I live in the desert (sorta) and don't really like spending any time outside because I burn really easily. I'm practically translucent. I would probably like it more if I could stay outside for more than twenty minutes without turning pink.:p
Paleontologists Jack Horner and John Scannella published a paper this week in Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology that overturned long-held beliefs about the famous Triceratops and Torosaurus, both discovered in the late nineteenth century. Until recently, scientists believed they were related species, but Horner and Scannella took a hard look at the creatures' fossils and discovered they were in fact seeing the maturation phases of the same animal.
I usually try to disagree with anything Jack horner says, but keep an open mind if that makes sense, he comes up with some of the most bizarre theories.
I usually try to disagree with anything Jack horner says, but keep an open mind if that makes sense, he comes up with some of the most bizarre theories.
I usually try to disagree with anything Jack horner says, but keep an open mind if that makes sense, he comes up with some of the most bizarre theories.
You try to disagree with someone who knows far more about the subject than you do. Why dont you educate yourself instead.
You try to disagree with someone who knows far more about the subject than you do. Why dont you educate yourself instead.
Either you dont know what a scavenger is or you are an idiot
of course i know what a scavenger is. t-rex is not a scavenger. its an opportunistic feeder (meaning both). jack horner believes t-rex was a pure scavenger who never hunted. and there are tons of holes in this theory. he also claimed t-rex had bad eyesight.
You try to disagree with someone who knows far more about the subject than you do. Why dont you educate yourself instead.
Why, yes I do. In-fact most paleontologists do it all the time, but by any means if I am wrong for making this theory. Please show me evidence and back it up, or Educate yourself on how a debate works. Any questions please feel free to PM me and we can discuss this further.
jack horner has got to be among the, how should i say it? i'll go with "out of there" paleontologist. don't get me wrong he has a few good theory's about hadrosaurs and such but he doesn't know anything when it comes to rex. and i highly doubt the new torosaurus is triceratops news, triceratops is said to be bigger then torosaurus and i highly doubt they shrink.
in other news, they discovered a couple of new ceratopsians that lived on a "lost continent" called kosmoceratops and utahceratops.
I feel like I want to crack open all my old paleontology books and see how much has changed. They're about fifteen years old, so.... probably a lot.
You make a good point Alcoremortis - the theory about how dinosaurs lived and behaved is always changing because it is so difficult to prove any single idea. New theories will be emerging all the time.
One useful way to try and validate theories is to look at how reptiles behave today. Certain species like crocodiles apparently haven't changed much over millions of years.
of course i know what a scavenger is. t-rex is not a scavenger. its an opportunistic feeder (meaning both). jack horner believes t-rex was a pure scavenger who never hunted. and there are tons of holes in this theory. he also claimed t-rex had bad eyesight.
There is no such thing as a 'pure scavenger' and Horner has never said this
Why, yes I do. In-fact most paleontologists do it all the time, but by any means if I am wrong for making this theory. Please show me evidence and back it up, or Educate yourself on how a debate works. Any questions please feel free to PM me and we can discuss this further.
Taking into account all the evidence and formulating your own ideas, then discussing them, would lead to a debate
'I TRY TO DISAGREE WITH HORNER' is simply choosing to ignore all the evidence because you didn't like something he had to say
jack horner has got to be among the, how should i say it? i'll go with "out of there" paleontologist. don't get me wrong he has a few good theory's about hadrosaurs and such but he doesn't know anything when it comes to rex. and i highly doubt the new torosaurus is triceratops news, triceratops is said to be bigger then torosaurus and i highly doubt they shrink.
in other news, they discovered a couple of new ceratopsians that lived on a "lost continent" called kosmoceratops and utahceratops.
He actually happens to be the most respected man in the field
The MoR probably has the record for Tyrannosaur findings so I dont know where you get the 'doesnt know anything' idea
And have you even read the trike paper?
There is no such thing as a 'pure scavenger' and Horner has never said this
He actually happens to be the most respected man in the field
The MoR probably has the record for Tyrannosaur findings so I dont know where you get the 'doesnt know anything' idea
And have you even read the trike paper?
1. he said t-rex NEVER hunted. he honestly did say that. he said that t-rex was big only to scare of smaller carns from kills. he seriously believes it never hunted. you my "friend" need to relisten to what he says.
2. he isn't a tyrannosaur expert. he was the one claiming t-rex had poor vision, weak arms, and never hunted. all 3 of those ideas aren't widely belive among the paleontology community. yes i read the trike-toro paper, and honestly i'm not completly convinced. i still don't totally believe in the dracorex-stygmoloch-pachycephalosaurus theory either. I even have some skeptocism on nannotyrannus being t-rex.
3. Excuse me?!?!?!?! [mod edit - don't add inflammatory comments back in after similar ones have already been removed]
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I still find myself feeling stupidly excited when a new species of dinosaur is discovered.
Then, I realized that a huge part of paleontology meant standing around in the hot sun all day finding nothing and decided my interests lay more in a dark, cool lab.:D
See I love the desert, and I love the lab, so really wouldn't bother me, what I'm going to do.
I live in the desert (sorta) and don't really like spending any time outside because I burn really easily. I'm practically translucent. I would probably like it more if I could stay outside for more than twenty minutes without turning pink.:p
Felt like a paleontologist right there.
Exactly. Maybe those who wanted to be a cop or a fireman
Or something like that.
http://io9.com/5606111/triceratops-controversy-shakes-paleontology-to-its-bones
At least they kept the Triceratops name, I guess.
new dinosaur, yes. hump deformity, unlikely. its just to big.
oh yeah, i find the t-rex scavenger theory to be the stupidest theory ever although i do believe the pachy, stygmoloch, dracoerex thing. like look here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Dracorex_skull.jpg/220px-Dracorex_skull.jpg
then compare it to here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Stygimoloch_spinifer.jpg/200px-Stygimoloch_spinifer.jpg
although i think the pachy is to different though.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/Boomerjinks/Jurassic%20Park%20Jeep/whip2.jpg
check it: http://www.jurassicparkjeep.com/
not that it has anything to do with paleontology.
When I turned 16, I actually wanted a 94 Wrangler so I could make one.
You try to disagree with someone who knows far more about the subject than you do. Why dont you educate yourself instead.
Either you dont know what a scavenger is or you are an idiot
of course i know what a scavenger is. t-rex is not a scavenger. its an opportunistic feeder (meaning both). jack horner believes t-rex was a pure scavenger who never hunted. and there are tons of holes in this theory. he also claimed t-rex had bad eyesight.
First post and already flaming?
Let's play nice, or it'll be a short stay.
Why, yes I do. In-fact most paleontologists do it all the time, but by any means if I am wrong for making this theory. Please show me evidence and back it up, or Educate yourself on how a debate works. Any questions please feel free to PM me and we can discuss this further.
in other news, they discovered a couple of new ceratopsians that lived on a "lost continent" called kosmoceratops and utahceratops.
You make a good point Alcoremortis - the theory about how dinosaurs lived and behaved is always changing because it is so difficult to prove any single idea. New theories will be emerging all the time.
One useful way to try and validate theories is to look at how reptiles behave today. Certain species like crocodiles apparently haven't changed much over millions of years.
There is no such thing as a 'pure scavenger' and Horner has never said this
Taking into account all the evidence and formulating your own ideas, then discussing them, would lead to a debate
'I TRY TO DISAGREE WITH HORNER' is simply choosing to ignore all the evidence because you didn't like something he had to say
He actually happens to be the most respected man in the field
The MoR probably has the record for Tyrannosaur findings so I dont know where you get the 'doesnt know anything' idea
And have you even read the trike paper?
1. he said t-rex NEVER hunted. he honestly did say that. he said that t-rex was big only to scare of smaller carns from kills. he seriously believes it never hunted. you my "friend" need to relisten to what he says.
2. he isn't a tyrannosaur expert. he was the one claiming t-rex had poor vision, weak arms, and never hunted. all 3 of those ideas aren't widely belive among the paleontology community. yes i read the trike-toro paper, and honestly i'm not completly convinced. i still don't totally believe in the dracorex-stygmoloch-pachycephalosaurus theory either. I even have some skeptocism on nannotyrannus being t-rex.
3. Excuse me?!?!?!?! [mod edit - don't add inflammatory comments back in after similar ones have already been removed]