here here. pumped to see you guys doing monkey island. heres hoping you get the chance to bring some more lucas arts adventure games out of retirement!
Day of the Tentacle. The best adventure ever. (How about "Tales of the Tentacle"?)
What, should Green Tentacle drink that toxic water or something? Honestly, the first one was fine by itself. However, more games with Bernard and insane situations could be fun.
What, should Green Tentacle drink that toxic water or something? Honestly, the first one was fine by itself. However, more games with Bernard and insane situations could be fun.
*ahem* Contrary to popular belief, Day of the Tentacle is actually the sequel to another successful Point and Click game named "Maniac Mansion"! Who would have known?
Honestly.....Grim Fandango was perfect on its own and doesn't need a sequel. That said, I certainly wouldn't say no to a sequel were it presented, but I'd like to hope that if there is a sequel that they could get the original cast....or if it's over a new story...stay true to the original feel while breaking new ground.
Ugh...this is what happens when they reveal a lucasarts series: You expect another lucasarts series. The same thing happened with Sam and Max...
I don't expect another one but surely you can't blame us for dreaming? we all have favs, mine being day of the tentacle.
This time it's more relevent though, lucasarts didn't created sam and max so they simply lost the rights after a while. But monkey island is owned by lucasarts, so seeing these two companys working together does bring new possibilities to the table that fans simply can't ignore.
Maybe not so much Day of the Tentacle, but I can easily see there being room for more stories in the Grim Fandango netherworld. There's a big part of me that wants it to be Schafer that tells those stories, though.
Please, do not make a Grim Fandango sequel (or prequel). The first game was perfect by itself...
I agree. Delighted to see that MI is being remade because I love the series but Grim Fandango was a perfect story with perfect everything else. No to sequel
Seeing LucasArts may be sprucing up more of their their old games for rerelease, I think Telltale making a Special Edition of Grim Fandango in their Telltale engine with their lovely camera sweeps and angles and lighting effects would be amazing.
Like the CSI games for Ubisoft, LucasArts would sell it on disc (or maybe offer 3 episodes for individual download - Year 1, Year 2, Years 3&4). All the dialogue is already recorded too, so they'd be off to a flying start.
Should Telltale acquire more LucasArts licenses, I think the Maniac Mansion / DOTT universe would be the obvious next candidate.
Should Telltale acquire more LucasArts licenses, I think the Maniac Mansion / DOTT universe would be the obvious next candidate.
Agreed. I think Maniac Mansion, Sam & Max and Monkey Island were always the three LEC licenses with the most potential for further sequels. Beyond those, I don't think I'd particularly want sequels to the others, which just by their nature worked better as one-off stories and continuations, however well intentioned, would probably be a bad idea. To me the thought of "Grim Fandango 2" is almost as horrifying as "Casablanca 2"... not sure why someone would be very keen on that, especially with the improbability of Schafer's involvement. I guess a Full Throttle sequel could work, but, I think I'd prefer that to be left alone as well.
Would I play any sequel to an LEC adventure game? Of course I would, but we might be getting kind of spoiled here. Sequels to Sam & Max and Monkey Island alone would be a big deal even in an alternate reality where LEC never abandoned them in the first place. Our dreams shockingly came true for those licenses, but I don't think we want to get to the point where old franchises are resurrected for the mere sake of it. I think you could make Sam & Max and MI games until things becomes stale, but beyond those for the most part I think the old LEC licenses would be better served in the form of re-releases/remakes like we're seeing with MI1.
Agreed. I think Maniac Mansion, Sam & Max and Monkey Island were always the three LEC licenses with the most potential for further sequels.
Someone's forgetting "Loom". For shame.
I kind of hope we'd wait awhile to get another LucasArts franchise if they could get one. Having Telltale become LucasArts' Adventure Game division doesn't sit well with me for some reason.
Grim Fandango is a good game (except the controls, which are worst I have ever seen in any LucasArts adventure game). While another game (with mouse control) would be nice, I don't know how you can write credible sequel, considering the ending of Grim Fandango.
It was hard to write continuation to Monkey2 (IMO Curse's worst plot twists are because of LeChuck's Revenge's ending) and in similar manner Grim Fandango 2's story would suffer because of the ending of the first game.
Anything Grim Fandago would most likely make an awesome Telltale game. Thing is, we're going to have to wait until after Monkey Island and Sam & Max: Season Three. Given, it would make a great addition.
And I don't want a sequel. Pretty much nobody here wants a sequel. Better controls would be a 1-Up
I can't see Grim Fandango ever being remade. I wouldn't even want to ask LucasArts about it. It might remind them of the financial disaster and cool current interest. Really, Grim being well reviewed and not being accepted by consumers was a big factor in the death of adventure games. It hasn't been a profitable IP like Sam and Max and Monkey Island.
Doesn't make sense money wise. I haven't played the game, so it's not a knock in that sense.
I can't see Grim Fandango ever being remade. I wouldn't even want to ask LucasArts about it. It might remind them of the financial disaster and cool current interest. Really, Grim being well reviewed and not being accepted by consumers was a big factor in the death of adventure games. It hasn't been a profitable IP like Sam and Max and Monkey Island.
Doesn't make sense money wise. I haven't played the game, so it's not a knock in that sense.
I have always wondered why it didn't sell. Besides horrible controls, it was a good game with interesting story and characters. There's some worse LucasArts adventures than Grim Fandango which sold better.
Besides Monkey4 used the same horrible controls, but it sold relatively well.
After playing Grim Fandango and later hearing there might be a sequel I just couldn't understand how (unless, as some of you point out, they made a prequel). At the end Manny passed on into the next world. A second volume would either require, A; Manny to return (which just doesn't seem right after all the trouble he went to for his happy ending and the feeling of finality which seemed to accompany it), B; Glottis to act as the lead protagonist (and while he had a head for mechanics he didn't have Manny's charisma that you'd need to chat information out of people or his knack for problem solving) or C; a completely new character with maybe a few cameo appearances of characters from the previous game.
That leaves a prequel. And that would mean leading Manny through an epic adventure that would leave him in a dead end job where his boss and colleague constantly cheat him out of success.
I can see a remake working, but I think Lucasarts are doing the remakes at the moment.
Grim Fandango is a really great game, and the story was awesome. I can see a special edition working, such as visiting more locations in the space of each year.
But honestly, even though Telltale would do a great job with the atmosphere and the feel of the game, the saga was pretty much finished. It had great symbolism and a happy ending.
Manny Calavera's journey is over, but a spin off series could work. But I'd rather see monkey island, or full throttle and day of the tentacle first.
In other News, Tim Curry is voicing a character in Brutal Legend! And I don't know about Deathspank!
I can see a remake working, but I think Lucasarts are doing the remakes at the moment.
Grim Fandango is a really great game, and the story was awesome. I can see a special edition working, such as visiting more locations in the space of each year.
But honestly, even though Telltale would do a great job with the atmosphere and the feel of the game, the saga was pretty much finished. It had great symbolism and a happy ending.
Manny Calavera's journey is over, but a spin off series could work. But I'd rather see monkey island, or full throttle and day of the tentacle first.
In other News, Tim Curry is voicing a character in Brutal Legend! And I don't know about Deathspank!
I finished replaying Grim Fandango just few days ago. I don't see reason for remake, because it is still decent adventure game and I don't think that even graphics are that badly outdated. Spin-off could be possible, for example I could imagine episodic adventure which takes place in Rubacava* between the first and second years of the original game. Or adventure with completely new protagonist which happens in familiar places.
*I suggest Rubacava because it was my favourite place in the game and Manny seemed to know everyone from there. Expanding Film Noir town like that wouldn't be difficult and game hinted that a lot happened to Manny during that year.
If anyone was ever to make a Grim Fandango sequel, it should be with an entirely new cast. Leave the original characters alone because their story is fully wrapped up. Oh and Tim Schafer would have to be involved of course.
I played the original using a 360 controller in camera relative movement mode. : P
It was pretty bothersome moving him around, since if you faced north and wanted to start running south, he had to stand in one place and slowly rotate until he faced south, then start running. And using the character relative movement mode was just plain odd while using the control stick.
Anyway, I don't think Grim Fandango is the right game to give a sequel to. Some stories are better left as they are.
Should Telltale acquire more LucasArts licenses, I think the Maniac Mansion / DOTT universe would be the obvious next candidate.
Someone's forgetting Loom which IMO needs a sequel more then any of their games and to a lesser extent Zak McKracken. Why everyone always short-changes these games I will never know.
Zak had a very final ending but I've always believed there were many possibilities for that character and that universe. It would be perfect to do episodic adventures.
I mean I love Maniac and DOTT but how many adventures can you have in the same house? At least Monkey Island, Sam & Max, Indy, Loom, Full Throttle and Zak have possibilities.
Also Grim Fandango does not need a sequel that would be like making The Dig 2. So unnecessary and not needed. Both are great games with wonderful stories and both have a definitive ending and should be left alone.
I'll say Grim Fandango probably is one of the Best adventure games after Monkey Island and Sam and Max. A Sequel would have been pretty awesome but as previously said it would be pretty difficult. So i really hope for a sequel but i also hope there is none, this is because the standard probably would be lowered in comparison to the original game. So until they get the saga and the whole setting right, Grim Fandango FTW!
I love Grim Fandango, but I couldn't see Manny returning for a sequel. Part of the first game's charm was that we never find out what happens to him. Not that a sequel couldn't be set in the same world with different characters - but in a way, it would be like making a sequel to "Casablanca" or "North by Northwest."
Grim Fandango is one of my favourite games. But I agree with the majority, that a sequel wouldn't work for this excellent game. The story wraps up in such a nice way that a sequel would kind of take away the charm from the first one. The same thing goes for another great LucasArts adventure, The Dig.
But a remake of Grim Fandango could work, if not only to get the game the recognition it deserves. Sure, it always ends up close to the top in most "Best PC Games Ever" lists, but I was still blown away when I heard that this was the first game that LucasArts lost money on! Maybe that's why they stopped making games like this... Oh well, that something for a different thread.
A; Manny to return (which just doesn't seem right after all the trouble he went to for his happy ending and the feeling of finality which seemed to accompany it)
Hm... Well, most other games end that way as well, and some still manage to crank out a decent sequel or two.
However, with Grim Fandango's themes of death and eternal rest, I guess it might ruin the perfect circle of Manny's journey if he has to face more problems.
Still, I'd play a new Grim Fandango game with new characters. I mean, the end of Manny's journey isn't the end of others, right? There's so much of that universe we haven't explored yet. Maybe if Telltale's making it, they can make an anthology series, with a different main character and setting in each episode.
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Any chance TT could do a Grim Fandango sequel? It is my favorite adventure game.
Especially Full Throttle. That was supposed to have a sequel, but never got made.
I concur. I think TOMI has to be successful first.
l mean if this game doesn't do well, LA might not want to revive another property
What, should Green Tentacle drink that toxic water or something? Honestly, the first one was fine by itself. However, more games with Bernard and insane situations could be fun.
*ahem* Contrary to popular belief, Day of the Tentacle is actually the sequel to another successful Point and Click game named "Maniac Mansion"! Who would have known?
+1 vote for telltale to take a stab at them
I don't expect another one but surely you can't blame us for dreaming? we all have favs, mine being day of the tentacle.
This time it's more relevent though, lucasarts didn't created sam and max so they simply lost the rights after a while. But monkey island is owned by lucasarts, so seeing these two companys working together does bring new possibilities to the table that fans simply can't ignore.
True, I only was able to play the demo...but still!...Hmm...*runs online in search of demo*
I agree. Delighted to see that MI is being remade because I love the series but Grim Fandango was a perfect story with perfect everything else. No to sequel
Seeing LucasArts may be sprucing up more of their their old games for rerelease, I think Telltale making a Special Edition of Grim Fandango in their Telltale engine with their lovely camera sweeps and angles and lighting effects would be amazing.
Like the CSI games for Ubisoft, LucasArts would sell it on disc (or maybe offer 3 episodes for individual download - Year 1, Year 2, Years 3&4). All the dialogue is already recorded too, so they'd be off to a flying start.
Should Telltale acquire more LucasArts licenses, I think the Maniac Mansion / DOTT universe would be the obvious next candidate.
Agreed. I think Maniac Mansion, Sam & Max and Monkey Island were always the three LEC licenses with the most potential for further sequels. Beyond those, I don't think I'd particularly want sequels to the others, which just by their nature worked better as one-off stories and continuations, however well intentioned, would probably be a bad idea. To me the thought of "Grim Fandango 2" is almost as horrifying as "Casablanca 2"... not sure why someone would be very keen on that, especially with the improbability of Schafer's involvement. I guess a Full Throttle sequel could work, but, I think I'd prefer that to be left alone as well.
Would I play any sequel to an LEC adventure game? Of course I would, but we might be getting kind of spoiled here. Sequels to Sam & Max and Monkey Island alone would be a big deal even in an alternate reality where LEC never abandoned them in the first place. Our dreams shockingly came true for those licenses, but I don't think we want to get to the point where old franchises are resurrected for the mere sake of it. I think you could make Sam & Max and MI games until things becomes stale, but beyond those for the most part I think the old LEC licenses would be better served in the form of re-releases/remakes like we're seeing with MI1.
I kind of hope we'd wait awhile to get another LucasArts franchise if they could get one. Having Telltale become LucasArts' Adventure Game division doesn't sit well with me for some reason.
It was hard to write continuation to Monkey2 (IMO Curse's worst plot twists are because of LeChuck's Revenge's ending) and in similar manner Grim Fandango 2's story would suffer because of the ending of the first game.
And I don't want a sequel. Pretty much nobody here wants a sequel. Better controls would be a 1-Up
Doesn't make sense money wise. I haven't played the game, so it's not a knock in that sense.
I have always wondered why it didn't sell. Besides horrible controls, it was a good game with interesting story and characters. There's some worse LucasArts adventures than Grim Fandango which sold better.
Besides Monkey4 used the same horrible controls, but it sold relatively well.
That leaves a prequel. And that would mean leading Manny through an epic adventure that would leave him in a dead end job where his boss and colleague constantly cheat him out of success.
Grim Fandango is a really great game, and the story was awesome. I can see a special edition working, such as visiting more locations in the space of each year.
But honestly, even though Telltale would do a great job with the atmosphere and the feel of the game, the saga was pretty much finished. It had great symbolism and a happy ending.
Manny Calavera's journey is over, but a spin off series could work. But I'd rather see monkey island, or full throttle and day of the tentacle first.
In other News, Tim Curry is voicing a character in Brutal Legend! And I don't know about Deathspank!
I finished replaying Grim Fandango just few days ago. I don't see reason for remake, because it is still decent adventure game and I don't think that even graphics are that badly outdated. Spin-off could be possible, for example I could imagine episodic adventure which takes place in Rubacava* between the first and second years of the original game. Or adventure with completely new protagonist which happens in familiar places.
*I suggest Rubacava because it was my favourite place in the game and Manny seemed to know everyone from there. Expanding Film Noir town like that wouldn't be difficult and game hinted that a lot happened to Manny during that year.
It was pretty bothersome moving him around, since if you faced north and wanted to start running south, he had to stand in one place and slowly rotate until he faced south, then start running. And using the character relative movement mode was just plain odd while using the control stick.
Anyway, I don't think Grim Fandango is the right game to give a sequel to. Some stories are better left as they are.
Someone's forgetting Loom which IMO needs a sequel more then any of their games and to a lesser extent Zak McKracken. Why everyone always short-changes these games I will never know.
Zak had a very final ending but I've always believed there were many possibilities for that character and that universe. It would be perfect to do episodic adventures.
I mean I love Maniac and DOTT but how many adventures can you have in the same house? At least Monkey Island, Sam & Max, Indy, Loom, Full Throttle and Zak have possibilities.
Also Grim Fandango does not need a sequel that would be like making The Dig 2. So unnecessary and not needed. Both are great games with wonderful stories and both have a definitive ending and should be left alone.
At least one more.
But a remake of Grim Fandango could work, if not only to get the game the recognition it deserves. Sure, it always ends up close to the top in most "Best PC Games Ever" lists, but I was still blown away when I heard that this was the first game that LucasArts lost money on! Maybe that's why they stopped making games like this... Oh well, that something for a different thread.
Hm... Well, most other games end that way as well, and some still manage to crank out a decent sequel or two.
However, with Grim Fandango's themes of death and eternal rest, I guess it might ruin the perfect circle of Manny's journey if he has to face more problems.
Still, I'd play a new Grim Fandango game with new characters. I mean, the end of Manny's journey isn't the end of others, right? There's so much of that universe we haven't explored yet. Maybe if Telltale's making it, they can make an anthology series, with a different main character and setting in each episode.