Fallout MMO

edited August 2010 in General Chat
I just heard the exciting news and thinking it was fake, checked interplays website and boy was I surprised. When I found out that the MMO is actually going to take place and interplay(Original Company) is developing the Fallout MMO, I don't know if any of you guys like fallout, but I thought I would let you all know and post the link a few concept art pics are up.

http://www.fallout-on-line.com/
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  • edited August 2010
    This news has been around for AGES, and I've been signed up for the beta for awhile now. A special email was sent off to people that signed up, they might still send it and it might still end up in every single person's Junk drawer(it's from "Mr. Handy").

    Interplay doesn't mean anything in terms of the "original company" anymore, since the main creative force of the original two games founded Obsidian, which is working on New Vegas. Still, I'm interested in any non-Bethesda Fallout project at this point.
  • edited August 2010
    I've seen concept art and screenshots. They're not even hiding the fact that super mutants are Orcs from warcraft in it.
  • edited August 2010
    I remember when Bethesda got the rights to develop Fallout 3 that initially it was just a license to make 3 games based on the series but a few years later they bought out the entire franchise with Interplay licensing the rights to make an MMO but they had to do so within a certain time frame (I think it was that they must release it within 4 years of starting development) and give a percentage of the monies from sales & subscriptions to Bethesda.

    To be honest, from what I can tell the whole thing is a big legal mess with Bethesda & Interplay suing and countersuing each other but I am happy that work is in progress on Fallout Online and it may be something I might pick up - that's only may because I'm not a big fan of MMORPGs.
  • edited August 2010
    This news has been around for AGES, and I've been signed up for the beta for awhile now. A special email was sent off to people that signed up, they might still send it and it might still end up in every single person's Junk drawer(it's from "Mr. Handy").

    Interplay doesn't mean anything in terms of the "original company" anymore, since the main creative force of the original two games founded Obsidian, which is working on New Vegas. Still, I'm interested in any non-Bethesda Fallout project at this point.

    That's very true, Obsidian is developing New Vegas, wich means it should be better than Fallout 3, not that I had any Qualms with three.

    I'm just hoping the MMO, won't be like War Craft and totaly re-write the mythos.
  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    That's very true, Obsidian is developing New Vegas, wich means it should be better than Fallout 3, not that I had any Qualms with three.
    It has to be. Obsidian uses that word that Bethesda now considers a terrifying, unspeakable term in RPGs: "Consequences".
    I'm just hoping the MMO, won't be like War Craft and totaly re-write the mythos.
    What mythos? You mean the shreds of canon left strewn about to be carried off by the wind in the wake of Fallout 3?
  • edited August 2010
    It has to be. Obsidian uses that word that Bethesda now considers a terrifying, unspeakable term in RPGs: "Consequences".


    What mythos? You mean the shreds of canon left strewn about to be carried off by the wind in the wake of Fallout 3?



    Just what would those shreds of cannon be? I'm just curious.
  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    Just what would those shreds of cannon be? I'm just curious.
    Anything not mentioned in Fallout 3. Anything they didn't decide to airlift to the opposite side of the continent or mention off-hand, really.
  • edited August 2010
    Anything not mentioned in Fallout 3. Anything they didn't decide to airlift to the opposite side of the continent or mention off-hand, really.

    Well it still can't be as bad as brother hood of steel, wich I should never mention again, under the fear of prosecution and death in some countries.
  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    Well it still can't be as bad as brother hood of steel, wich I should never mention again, under the fear of prosecution and death in some countries.
    In some ways it was worse though, by being successful and critically acclaimed. Brotherhood will be forgotten forever, Fallout 3 will have an enduring and irreversibly destructive impact on the franchise for years to come.
  • edited August 2010
    It has to be. Obsidian uses that word that Bethesda now considers a terrifying, unspeakable term in RPGs: "Consequences".


    What mythos? You mean the shreds of canon left strewn about to be carried off by the wind in the wake of Fallout 3?

    We get it... you hate Fallout 3... All you have been doing is bitching since it came out.

    Who really gives a shit if they messed up the canon of the series besides foaming at the mouth fans of the original games? I sure haven't met anyone... in fact most people I know praise how strong its story really is.

    News flash: Its a fucking videogame, not the gospel words of God... It is an entertainment experience & isn't so important that a few inaccuracies are going to shape the way mankind sees/lives life, so why worry about it so much?


    /RANT
  • edited August 2010
    I'm pretty sure the game is going to be a top-down RPG like the ones before Fallout 3... the signup sheet asks you for your favorite Fallout and 3 isn't included.

    @Dashing: If what you mean by "ages" was that the URL was leaked sometime in April, then yes. However, it was only claimed official by Interplay's website June 2nd.

    And If you didn't happen to find it in April when I did, then who's barking NOW?

    EDIT:
    We get it... you hate Fallout 3... All you have been doing is bitching since it came out.

    Who really gives a shit if they messed up the canon of the series besides foaming at the mouth fans of the original games? I sure haven't met anyone... in fact most people I know praise how strong & its story really is.

    News flash: Its a fucking videogame, not the gospel words of God... It is an entertainment experience & isn't so important that a few inaccuracies are going to shape the way mankind sees/lives life, so worry about it so much?


    /RANT

    I don't really want to end up like the other people who say this, but:

    +1.
  • edited August 2010
    We get it... you hate Fallout 3... All you have been doing is bitching since it came out.
    Not exactly. I needed time to actually buy it and play it first, and it wasn't a launch-day purchase. So I've been bitching for at least a little less time than that. If you want the people who've been bitching since release or earlier, ask the NMA guys.
    Who really gives a shit if they messed up the canon of the series besides foaming at the mouth fans of the original games? I sure haven't met anyone... in fact most people I know praise how strong its story really is.
    Wait, so who cares if they messed up the canon...other than the people who are upset about the canon. Of course nobody. Who cares about the holocaust except foaming-at-the-mouth Jews and Jew sympathizers?
    News flash: Its a fucking videogame, not the gospel words of God...
    As unimportant as they are, video games are more important than what somebody's imaginary friend has to say.
    It is an entertainment experience
    Very apt that the word "video game" wasn't used here, because it sure as hell wasn't that.
    & isn't so important that a few inaccuracies are going to shape the way mankind sees/lives life, so why worry about it so much?
    No, but we're talking about video games. Hell, we're talking about Fallout right here in this thread. So it's totally okay, we're ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT DON'T MATTER. What you're doing, right here, is being bitchy about something that matters even LESS, my opinion of a video game. Why is that? Are you maybe afraid that you're not having as much fun as you think you are? Are you afraid that one guy that disagrees with you is going to be a problem in the long-term? You can disagree with me, I really don't care if you do. I'll argue the point, because that's fun and that's what I do in my leisure time(rather than when I'm doing something important, like coursework, a job, or supporting family and loved ones). But at the end of the day, I'm not going to get seriously bent out of shape. I'll just think a video game sucks, and your opinion of said video game sucks. If you get bent out of shape, that's your prerogative. More importantly, that's your problem.
  • edited August 2010
    No I have a problem with the fact that I can't go on a thread that Fallout is even mentioned in without you going on for 5-10 posts about how much you think Fallout 3 sucks & how Bethesda sucks for making it.

    It is one thing to state that you hate a video game & it is a completely different thing to beat it into the ground. Like for example, I hate Sonic '06 with a burning passion... I have stated this on a few threads. Do I whine about the storyline, gameplay, voice actors & whatnot for more than 2 posts? No. Why is that, because all it does is bore people, take up space that could be used for better purposes & annoy people who may actually like the game.

    P.S. your point about the holocaust is not only idiotic & uncalled for (& you can't begin to possibly understand how hard I want to go off on you for making such a heartless comment... especially considering my wife is jewish), but is a completely different matter altogether. One is a tragedy that caused many people to unjustly loose there lives & the other is an entertainment experience that doesn't even matter outside of the intense computer nerd community.

    P.P.S. I hope you feel proud of yourself for comparing your nerdy past times to a massacre
  • edited August 2010
    No I have a problem with the fact that I can't go on a thread that Fallout is even mentioned in without you going on for 5-10 posts about how much you think Fallout 3 sucks & how Bethesda sucks for making it.

    It is one thing to state that you hate a video game & it is a completely different thing to beat it into the ground. Like for example, I hate Sonic '06 with a burning passion... I have stated this on a few threads. Do I whine about the storyline, gameplay, voice actors & whatnot for more than 2 posts? No. Why is that, because all it does is bore people, take up space that could be used for better purposes & annoy people who may actually like the game.

    PS your point about the holocaust is not only idiotic & uncalled for (& you can't begin to possibly understand how hard I want to go off on you for making such a heartless comment... especially considering my wife is jewish), but is a completely different matter altogether. One is a tragedy that caused many people to unjustly loose there lives & the other is an entertainment experience that doesn't even matter outside of the nerd community.

    I hope you feel proud of yourself for comparing your nerdy past times to a massacre

    So...does any of this have to do with the fallout MMO, I'm just wondering? Cause I would prefer this thread doesn't get locked, and so on and so forth.
  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    So...does any of this have to do with the fallout MMO, I'm just wondering? Cause I would prefer this thread doesn't get locked, and so on and so forth.

    Look at his group of posts & tell me that have to do with the Fallout MMO.... He has 3 posts bashing Fallout 3 on here before I even responded. The point being why bitch so hardcore about it. All that does is annoy people who are fans of the game (& there are many of them out there).
  • edited August 2010
    I barely played the original Fallout games, because by the time I tried to play them, they felt impenetrably obsolete to me, but I played the first bit of Fallout 3 and thought it was fairly enjoyable, and intend on getting back to it some day. I have pre-ordered New Vegas, and would definitely be interested in trying an MMO based on the series.

    But about the storyline: I don't know the story well, especially not of the original games, but saying that the storyline doesn't matter and can totally ignore the original games is just not right. It's like saying that if Hollywood made Lord of the Rings IV: Revenge of Sauron featuring intergalactic space battle and laser cannons, no one should care because the movie could still be good.
  • edited August 2010
    Not exactly. I needed time to actually buy it and play it first, and it wasn't a launch-day purchase. So I've been bitching for at least a little less time than that.

    As unimportant as they are, video games are more important than what somebody's imaginary friend has to say.

    Brilliant post Dashing. You've proven that you bitch about Fallout 3 nonetheless and that you take video games over your imaginary friend.



    (aka you aren't very good at arguing)
  • edited August 2010
    Well, the last three to 4 posts had nothing to do with Fallout. Yours and RD's, and I would like to get back on track of the discussion, even though he didn't like fallout 3, it was still talking about fall out, I don't want to start a fight, I want no trouble all I want is to talk about fallout and fallout related MMO's that are coming out.
  • edited August 2010
    It is one thing to state that you hate a video game & it is a completely different thing to beat it into the ground. Like for example, I hate Sonic '06 with a burning passion... I have stated this on a few threads. Do I whine about the storyline, gameplay, voice actors & whatnot for more than 2 posts? No. Why is that, because all it does is bore people, take up space that could be used for better purposes & annoy people who may actually like the game.
    Don't worry. There isn't any limit in thread size. You can make as many posts as you want, and more pages will show up! It's really cool! Nobody's taking up limited posting space!
    PS your point about the holocaust is not only idiotic & uncalled for (& you can't begin to possibly understand how hard I want to go off on you for making such a heartless comment... especially considering my wife is jewish), but is a completely different matter altogether. One is a tragedy that caused many people to unjustly loose there lives & the other is an entertainment experience that doesn't even matter outside of the nerd community.
    Yes, one matters and one does not. But the logic is the same, and using an analogy for something that certainly matters was supposed to make the point clear. Something universally reviled can be reduced to a completely idiotic "Who care about it but people who care about it" statement. You are, apparently, incapable of any sort of critical thinking skill whatsoever.

    Don't worry. Mentioning the Holocaust will not bring back the ghost of Heimlich Himmler or his ilk. Your wife is just as safe as she's ever been.

    So here, let's strip it of all controversy for a second.

    "Who cares about [blank], other than foaming-at-the-mouth [people who care about blank]?" Don't you see how stupidly ridiculous this is?

    And we shouldn't even be having this argument. It has nothing to do with Fallout. At all. You're a destructive force in this conversation. I refuse to reply to any more posts of yours until you're willing to be civil and actually discuss the unimportant matter at hand like an adult, rather than like a bitchy child.
  • edited August 2010
    I barely played the original Fallout games, because by the time I tried to play them, they felt impenetrably obsolete to me, but I played the first bit of Fallout 3 and thought it was fairly enjoyable, and intend on getting back to it some day. I have pre-ordered New Vegas, and would definitely be interested in trying an MMO based on the series.

    But about the storyline: I don't know the story well, especially not of the original games, but saying that the storyline doesn't matter and can totally ignore the original games is just not right. It's like saying that if Hollywood made Lord of the Rings IV: Revenge of Sauron featuring intergalactic space battle and laser cannons, no one should care because the movie could still be good.

    That's not what I'm saying either.... what I'm saying is that the story makes context within the scope of not only the game, but the series. Just because it is called Fallout 3 doesn't automatically mean it is restricted to some preconceived storyline. Does Final Fantasy VII take what was established in the previous 6 games as canon & continue that storyline? No, so why should we automatically expect sequels in any other series to? If they do, then thats great, but bitching because they don't is pointless.

    *edit*
    A big f*** you goes out to isonlydashinginhisdreams- signed Misty Titus
  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    Well, the last three to 4 posts had nothing to do with Fallout. Yours and RD's, and I would like to get back on track of the discussion, even though he didn't like fallout 3, it was still talking about fall out, I don't want to start a fight, I want no trouble all I want is to talk about fallout and fallout related MMO's that are coming out.

    ...ok then...

    I really liked Fallout shelters. I did. Except now that we are having less atomic bomb tests or launches, I just can't have that same experience anymore!

    Also, sonic sucks.
  • edited August 2010
    That's not what I'm saying either.... what I'm saying is that the story makes context within the scope of not only the game, but the series. Just because it is called Fallout 3 doesn't automatically mean it is restricted to some preconceived storyline. Does Final Fantasy VII take what was established in the previous 6 games as canon & continue that storyline? No, so why should we automatically expect sequels in any other series to? If they do, then thats great, but bitching because they don't is pointless.
    Unlike Final Fantasy, though, Fallout had a very well-guarded and watched-over lore. The Fallout Bible shows an immense amount of thought given to many aspects of the story and how things in the universe work. The Fallout 3 devs just went "Hey, does this sound cool right now? Then let's do it!", not really understanding that looking at the Great War and saying "aliens did it" completely undermines the message of every opening scene that every Fallout game, EVEN Fallout 3 and fucking Brotherhood of Steel, was able to get right. That war is something you don't fuck with, because it is the basic underlying theme of the entire series, and it's things like that which are done incidentally and without even thinking that piss me off. They paid for the license to a universe, a canon, and a legacy. They should treat that with respect. Should they feel like they can go and do something else with it? Of course! But show respect for what came before, rather than disregarding it outright or saying "That's dumb, let's do something else here instead."

    Things like that hurt other projects set in the universe, like Fallout Online and New Vegas, because they have to work in a broken and fragmented framework. "Wait, do we go with what we said, with what they said, or some third thing?"
  • edited August 2010

    Don't worry. Mentioning the Holocaust will not bring back the ghost of Heimlich Himmler or his ilk. Your wife is just as safe as she's ever been.


    And we shouldn't even be having this argument. It has nothing to do with Fallout. At all. You're a destructive force in this conversation. I refuse to reply to any more posts of yours until you're willing to be civil and actually discuss the unimportant matter at hand like an adult, rather than like a bitchy child.

    First off, the first segment of this quote is actually making fun of Jews more and is more unecessary.

    And YOU'RE saying we shouldn't be having this argument?
  • edited August 2010
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    And YOU'RE saying we shouldn't be having this argument?
    Yes.
  • edited August 2010
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    First off, the first segment of this quote is actually making fun of Jews more and is more unecessary.

    As you can see above, my wife didn't take to kindly to it..... sadly she isn't the most creative when it comes to insults
  • edited August 2010
    Yes.

    So, instead of realizing that you brought up the Holocaust in the first place (as well as being the first one to go off topic) you're just NOW saying that we shouldn't be having this conversation?

    And if you just quote this and reply "Yes" and act like you've never gone off topic in any of your 4,500+ posts (which I think is the most posts for anyone on this forum) and saying other people waste their time, then fuck you.
  • edited August 2010
    You know what? I don't even care about going on topic anymore....*Le Sigh*
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  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    You know what? I don't even care about going on topic anymore....*Le Sigh*

    This is what I'm not liking about the forums at the moment - threads are far too often descending into non-related rants which are basically about someone's opinion not being the same someone elses.

    Oh and the story in Fallout 3 is perfectly acceptable as is 1 & 2.
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    Thats the same newsletter, I got...so I'm hoping that more news letters will come, if it indeed has started.
  • edited August 2010
    (letter that anyone and everyone who signs up for the beta sees)

    So, instead of replying to either me or Robert, apologizing to his wife (or any Jewish people for that matter), you just pussy out and post pictures of the letter that everyone who has posted in this thread has already seen?
  • edited August 2010
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    So, instead of replying to either me or Robert, apologizing to his wife (or any Jewish people for that matter), you just pussy out and post pictures of the letter that everyone who has posted in this thread has already seen?

    He sent me a private message calling me a bitch... he gots his in a reply... don't worry
  • edited August 2010
    He sent me a private message calling me a bitch... he gots his in a reply... don't worry

    Oh joy! Can you PM me his "arguement"?

    And to all who don't like this off topic stuff: I'm sorry, it's just that sometimes justice cannot go unseen. Dashing was first to insult Jewish people, so he had to get what he deserved.

    I, for one, have never actually played a Fallout game before, but my brother does own all of them to date, and will also be getting New Vegas. I was the first to find out about Fallout Online, though, since I was looking at Destructoid.
  • edited August 2010
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    Oh joy! Can you PM me his "arguement"?

    And to all who don't like this off topic stuff: I'm sorry, it's just that sometimes justice cannot go unseen. Dashing was first to insult Jewish people, so he had to get what he deserved.

    I, for one, have never actually played a Fallout game before, but my brother does own all of them to date, and will also be getting New Vegas. I was the first to find out about Fallout Online, though, since I was looking at Destructoid.

    Okay, you know what. If you guys want to argue about this or start doing it on PM's.

    Bone, you should definitaley play them, they are worth it.
  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    Okay, you know what. If you guys want to argue about this or start doing it on PM's.

    Bone, you should definitaley play them, they are worth it.


    I'm pretty sure I'm done arguing.
    Which game should I start with?
  • edited August 2010
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure I'm done arguing.
    Which game should I start with?

    Fallout and then Fallout 2, they have them on www.gog.com and they come with Downloadable extras.
  • edited August 2010
    Icedhope wrote: »
    Fallout and then Fallout 2, they have them on www.gog.com and they come with Downloadable extras.
    A couple mods and patches can make the experience better. For example, I'm pretty sure the GOG version is still the European one that doesn't allow you to kill children characters. This wouldn't be SO bad if it wasn't somewhat broken, with children being invisible but their scripts still run. This causes some weird issues and overall it's just better to have them visible and killable.
  • edited August 2010
    As long as the MMO allows you to play as non-Brotherhood characters, I'll totally be kicking Age of Reckoning for this. I love the Fallout series, even the ones with hideous birth defects like Brotherhood of Steel, but I've never really liked the Brotherhood very much. They've always struck me as "we're the good guys because we're better than you, look at our power armour, fuck yeah!" But at least they're not as bad as the douchebags in Vault City. (I don't think I've ever completed Fallout 2 without stealth-killing the First Citizen via drug overdose) So yeah, if the MMO lets you play as Wastelanders, tribals or ghouls I'll be all over it.

    I didn't think that the story in Fallout 3 was terrible, though I did hate the way the promises of multiple endings basically turned into two endings. And they could have done with a few more levels of karma instead of 'good/bad'. Yeah, there was neutral, but IIRC it didn't change the ending any. And I missed the Fallout 1&2-style 'here's what happened to all the places you visited' endings. I don't remember the Great War getting blamed on aliens, but that's probably because I spent most of Mothership Zeta running around going 'I'VE GOT A KATANA, WHEEEEEEE!' instead of paying attention. I would prefer to not think of that addon as canon just because it's so weird, but on the other hand it does explain where the alien blasters in the first two games came from. I still like the first two games better, but that's because I prefer the isometric view to first/third person. And turn-based combat as well.

    For anyone who hasn't played them, Fallout 1&2 are definitely worth getting, and so is Tactics. They're available on Steam as as single package called the 'Fallout Collection'.
  • edited August 2010
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  • edited August 2010
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    Oh hey what happened here

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