lame humour?
Now, I really like sam and max, i love the games, but most of the jokes are just really lame. I laugh at some of em, but not all, is every1 like this?
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I wouldn't say "most" but I'm sure all of us find some of them lame (I really dont care for 80% of the "toilet humor")
No, if you want lame jokes/puns play the old Sierra games and die a lot, really, really, really bad jokes about your deaths...
So is watching paint dry...
Although I have to agree with Ashton about that 80% of toilet humor, there are several gems I really, really like in that remaining 20%.
I swear, Season 2 had the first ever genuinely funny fart joke.
no. most of us love the wacky, inside out humour and the screaming lack of consistency that is Sam & Max. seasons 1 & 2 were a bit better in the humour department (mostly for the sharper one liners), but season 3 is still pretty good.
Possibly true. Still, it can be said the same about the movie industry.
Even if you don't compare it to anything else, Sam and Max simply deliver.
OT: What is the "obvious joke" about Max and a pool table (305)? I don't get it.
Anyway, I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I've laughed out loud at the games more than once.
The jokes were perfect, the situations were perfect and the puzzles were HARD!
Somehow the jokes in Season 3 just don't seem too memorable...
For some people, Sam and Max will be completely funny, for others, Sam and Max is dull and void of humor. Some people will find some jokes funny, whilst others won't even catch the joke.
Everyone is different, no two people are not on fire. You know.
I've got aspergers syndrome as well & most of the season had Me in stitches bar a bit of 305.
For the record I haven't played Curse or Escape, and first two games are known for their atmosphere and NOT for their humor (although it is also present), so the funniest series of MI I have played is ToMI. And, well, I think MI is less absurd and more dependant on "joke opportunities" born from its own plot, whereas Sam & Max's plot mostly borns FROM joke opportunities. I still think Sam & Max is the funnier one in the end simply because it's less limited to crack a joke (although it doesn't mean neither of them are the better one). I also think ToMI relies on "what you're about to say is disgusting so I'm not letting you talk no more, have a feast on my disgusted impression instead" jokes a bit too much.
I... what? The atmosphere? The games have barely any straight lines at all and a rubber chicken on a pulley. They're the iconic Lucasarts comical adventures, most decidedly well known for humour. They're known for having a different atmosphere than the games which come later in the series, but humour is still the foremost quality.
I also don't know why people are disputing that most of the jokes in Sam and Max are lame. There is an abundance of horribly corny gags, and with good reason: the writer/s try to think of multiple jokes about every single thing in the game. The bad jokes are piled on to maintain a perennially comical tone and ensure the setting is right for the really good jokes, of which there are many.
The density of bad jokes is actually lower in the third season than in the other games, and I think it loses something for it. Not that I didn't enjoy it.
No, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you here. I think that the original two games are known for both their atmosphere and humour equally. These games were renowned for their humour. Sure, there was a great atmosphere, and the games are known for that as well, but the atmosphere is balanced equally with the humour.
Morzax explained it perfectly ^.
So, are you saying that Sam & Max's plot is more centered around the jokes, whereas Monkey Island's jokes are more 'clipped onto the side of the plot' and integrated after the initial plot has been laid out? I think I'd agree. Only to an extent though, because since Sam & Max is such a zany and ridiculous sort of a series, it would be much easier to throw in jokes because the writers don't have to worry about derailing the overall theme, and they don't have to focus on maintaining an atmosphere - they don't have to worry about screwing things up, because anything goes in the Sam & Max universe. I think it's more-so just that freedom in writing that creates so many joke opportunities, rather than jokes being made the priority and the plot then being woven around the jokes, as you may have been suggesting(?).
Exactly. This is basically what I was trying to say in my last paragraph. The world of Sam & Max is just so wacky that the writers can do whatever they want as far as the writing goes, which makes the game the perfect vehicle for cracking jokes. Also, being set in the present, it's easier for the writers to write satirical jokes about things relevant in today's world. Whereas, with ToMI, it's set in the past, and there's all of that timeline stuff to consider; they have to be historically accurate to a degree.
Exactly. It just comes down to personal taste and preference in the end, doesn't it? Thankyou for not stating your opinion as fact - a lot of people don't have that ability
But the main flaw is the fact most episodes switch to something completely different in the middle and sort of ruin the narrative and mood. The third episode starts great with Noir Sam and you really get in the mood, but then the whole thing goes to an alternative reality and throws the first part in the dumpster. And in the third part you have a great Zombie spoof, being stuck in the diner, but that too doesn't last long. So I don't blame the humor for not liking this season too much.