Both of them.
The rest of the (original) series are great too.
Apollo Justice and Miles Edgeworth Investigations are good but not as good as the originals.
Tomorrow I'll get "PL and the unwound future" on my store, I liked very much the two previous. The only bad think I can think about them is the slider puzzles
Nope. There's a big red block shaded out on the back of all Japanese games made after 2008~9 that says the export and/or sale of DS games are illegal.
NA games say that they're illegal to sell outside the US, Canada and Mexico; never stopped anyone. Same thing goes for games post-2009 in Japan. If it's really illegal then it's just one of those things no one actually cares to enforce.
Also, the region lock thing only applies to games with DSi features.
Also, the region lock thing only applies to games with DSi features.
Which is pretty much every game made after that point. Every game I've been looking at has one of those labels on it, even ones like Okami that have little, if any, online connectivity. Golden Sun, Pokémon B&W, pretty much every new game out over here has some form of online play, even if it is just score exchanges.
Online play has nothing to do with it, if it's using the DSi's camera, or extra RAM, or whatever, it's region locked, if it doesn't it's not. Even then you know there are people who also have a JP DSi just for that >__>
Part of me wants to whine that we shouldn't keep getting these spin offs when there's no Apollo Justice 2 in sight
Wait, so I'm not the only person who actually liked Apollo Justice? Huzzah! I really liked the first three games, but I loved AJ just as much. Something about him was just so... endearing. And I loved Kristoph.
I think, when I get some spending money, I'm going to pick up a Professor Layton game and try it out. People who are familiar with Professor Layton - should I start with the first game? ...I know that sounds silly, but sometimes the first game is weaker than the others, so I'm curious. Also, I don't know how continuity based the games are.
I loved AJ. There were a couple of things that grated on me (the end of Machi Tobaye's case and the way Klavier was like "lol let me help you out Herr Forehead" when I had it figured out and just needed the chance to handle it myself stick out in my mind at the moment), but overall I thought it was much better than the two games that had preceded it. Not that I didn't like them, but some of the cases just felt rather forced and some of the characters were obnoxious. Most of the AJ cases were a blast to play and it was the first game since the first AA that I've played through all the cases several times.
I didn't like AJ at first, but in the end, it really grew on me, and I actually like it and appreciate it now, I like the overall Near Future feeling of the game, the music was pretty great and the characters became likable towards the end, but really there's only two cases in the game that are important, the first and the last, the rest are just filler, but since Case 4 is so huge and takes place between two time zones, I guess I can forgive that. I'd rate it higher than the second Phoenix Wright game anyway.
I loved AJ. There were a couple of things that grated on me (the end of Machi Tobaye's case and the way Klavier was like "lol let me help you out Herr Forehead" when I had it figured out and just needed the chance to handle it myself stick out in my mind at the moment), but overall I thought it was much better than the two games that had preceded it. Not that I didn't like them, but some of the cases just felt rather forced and some of the characters were obnoxious. Most of the AJ cases were a blast to play and it was the first game since the first AA that I've played through all the cases several times.
Better than JFA sans 204 yeah, but better than TaT? I don't think so.
I love AJ too (well, all of AA :P), but while it was consistently good IMO, I don't think it ever reached the greatness of the best cases of the previous games. What I remember annoying me the most in the game was that I liked Klavier, but he can't compare to Edgey, Franziska or Godot, the fact that Machi was the defendant in that case is just simply ridiculous (the blind little kid moved the body of the huge grown man to that really tall platform? Seriously?), and that the Mason system was just confusing and if we didn't know better it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that it was a freaking time machine or something.
I have a special spot for JFA in my heart, since it was the first AA game I played (long story), it introduced Franziska, who's my favorite prosecutor despite her minimal screen time, and because 204 was just epic. But the nostalgia filter has worn off, and now it's a bit low on my list of favorites (I'm looking at you, case 203). Still, it introduced me to the series, so hey. :P
I loved the feel of AJ, the new graphics, the music, and the main characters were great. The only thing that put me off at first was Phoenix's... situation, but by the time the fourth case rolled around I was totally sold on it. So yeah, I'd love to see a continuation of Apollo's story.
Nope. There's a big red block shaded out on the back of all Japanese games made after 2008~9 that says the export and/or sale of DS games are illegal. Plus, these games WON'T work on a non-Japanese DS (unless you are in possession of the original grey one) anyway. They're region locked (the original grey DSs are region free, but not the DSis or DSiXLs).
Basically, if you have a DS old enough that it can use Wi-Fi but doesn't have an internet browser, you can play the games from any world DS. If you don't, and your DS is not Japanese, you're SOL.
Older DS games that lack this red mark are fair game though and WILL work on any DS anywhere, like the original Phoenix Wright remakes (is that an oxymoron?) and Layton games. If you want 'em, or stuff they don't import like Jump Ultimate Stars or Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan (the precursor game to Elite Beat Agents), give me a shout and I'll see what I can do.
I have a DS Lite. I used to have the Mario Kart red DS, but the screen cracked and Nintendo doesn't make parts for it anymore, so they sent me a Lite. Anyway, I've imported once before. Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten, for my Japanese class. I also have a friend who got impatient and imported Pokemon HeartGold. But yeah, I know the newer games are region locked if you use a DSi.
Oh, the Eternal Diva movie is out already? Curse its lack of NA release! *shakes fist*
*ahem* So, how was it?
Haven't seen it yet. I just got my paycheck yesterday, but I don't have access to a DVD player to play it in- plus its not out on film yet here for another month or so.
It aired in British movie theaters last week though. Don't know, if you live there you might be able to catch it.
EDIT: Google is your friend. The movie came to British theaters last week, but the English language Blu-Ray for those in the US, Canada, etc. already came out in September.
Yeah it was pretty good, my main problem was with the way it explained its back-story at the start. It did it in that really weird stilted way that I always find in Japanese films, oh and some of the dialogue's super quiet in places with loud out-of-place music drowning it out.
Bar that it was a pretty fun watch, it's not as good a story as the new game but it's still good stuff. There's a Chelmey replacement who had me guffaw'ing a good few times ad the puzzles are nicely worked in. You'll find yourself smiling a lot when you ear the musical cues from the game
I wonder how they will handle 3D in this game, particularly in the cutscenes. It is possible to make hand-animated 3D cartoons, but it's very difficult, so I wonder if they'll have 3D rendered backgrounds with flat cut-out characters, or just have the cutscenes not be 3D, or what
I wonder how they will handle 3D in this game, particularly in the cutscenes. It is possible to make hand-animated 3D cartoons, but it's very difficult, so I wonder if they'll have 3D rendered backgrounds with flat cut-out characters, or just have the cutscenes not be 3D, or what
Who said anything about the game being in 3D? For all we know the only reason it's on the 3DS is because DS cartridges not have the space they need for this game or something... Well that or a few 3D puzzles or something.
Better than JFA sans 204 yeah, but better than TaT? I don't think so.
I love AJ too (well, all of AA :P), but while it was consistently good IMO, I don't think it ever reached the greatness of the best cases of the previous games. What I remember annoying me the most in the game was that I liked Klavier, but he can't compare to Edgey, Franziska or Godot, the fact that Machi was the defendant in that case is just simply ridiculous (the blind little kid moved the body of the huge grown man to that really tall platform? Seriously?), and that the Mason system was just confusing and if we didn't know better it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that it was a freaking time machine or something.
Trials and Trib was a really mixed bag for me. I loved the first case where you get to play as Mia (my favorite character) and the Masque*DeMask case was a blast, but The Furio Tigre case was terrible and the final case was so made of convenient things. Honestly, if one thing hadn't happened properly Godot's whole plan to cover things up would have gone straight to hell in a handbasket.
Between all that and the fact that I didn't find Godot threatening or his backstory interesting (the last prosecutor I viewed as a decent threat was Franziska), I just really had a hard time with that game. I still like it, but I felt that (sans the last case due to the MASON system melarkey and the end of Turnabout Serenade) AJ just presented more solid cases.
So far I've found out I suck at puzzles (I was looking at the "Find my house" puzzle all wrong, it was a random guess that got it right)
and Phoenix Wright was obviously originally a game boy game. It's interesting to say the least. Annoying at times and I'm really starting to hate Miles Edgeworth (And that's just one case in).
If you'll excuse me, I have to update the "Video Game Crushes" Thread
This Layton-Ace Attorney crossover gives me another reason to want a 3DS.
So far I've found out I suck at puzzles (I was looking at the "Find my house" puzzle all wrong, it was a random guess that got it right)
and Phoenix Wright was obviously originally a game boy game. It's interesting to say the least. Annoying at times and I'm really starting to hate Miles Edgeworth (And that's just one case in).
If you'll excuse me, I have to update the "Video Game Crushes" Thread
This Layton-Ace Attorney crossover gives me another reason to want a 3DS.
A little warning about the first Phoenix Wright game
there is a part in one case (Turnabout Goodbyes) that might look like you've just lost but someone will show up after the game over message
. Oh and before you ask, I'm just bringing it up because my copy was preowned and that that case was still unfinished.
He'll grow on you eventually. Though probably not for a while.
Quoted for truth.
Edgeworth really comes into stride partway through case three (the second case he appears in), and actually gets a lot of character development in case 4 (
which revolves around Edgeworth's past
).
Edit:
Forgot to mention, if you can't find the DS releases of the Phoenix Wright games (the first three), they're also on the Wii Shop Channel for 1,000 points ($10 USD) a piece. The last trial of game 1 costs an additional 100 points... this trial is more advanced than the trials in the first 3 games as it was added in the DS version of the game. Similar technology was used in Apollo Justice.
Capcom's Online Store has Ace Attorney in its deal of the week. Specifically, Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice (game 4) DS for $15 and Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth (game 5) DS for $24, this week only.
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The rest of the (original) series are great too.
Apollo Justice and Miles Edgeworth Investigations are good but not as good as the originals.
Tomorrow I'll get "PL and the unwound future" on my store, I liked very much the two previous. The only bad think I can think about them is the slider puzzles
NA games say that they're illegal to sell outside the US, Canada and Mexico; never stopped anyone. Same thing goes for games post-2009 in Japan. If it's really illegal then it's just one of those things no one actually cares to enforce.
Also, the region lock thing only applies to games with DSi features.
Which is pretty much every game made after that point. Every game I've been looking at has one of those labels on it, even ones like Okami that have little, if any, online connectivity. Golden Sun, Pokémon B&W, pretty much every new game out over here has some form of online play, even if it is just score exchanges.
Wait, so I'm not the only person who actually liked Apollo Justice? Huzzah! I really liked the first three games, but I loved AJ just as much. Something about him was just so... endearing. And I loved Kristoph.
I think, when I get some spending money, I'm going to pick up a Professor Layton game and try it out. People who are familiar with Professor Layton - should I start with the first game? ...I know that sounds silly, but sometimes the first game is weaker than the others, so I'm curious. Also, I don't know how continuity based the games are.
Better than JFA sans 204 yeah, but better than TaT? I don't think so.
I love AJ too (well, all of AA :P), but while it was consistently good IMO, I don't think it ever reached the greatness of the best cases of the previous games. What I remember annoying me the most in the game was that I liked Klavier, but he can't compare to Edgey, Franziska or Godot, the fact that Machi was the defendant in that case is just simply ridiculous (the blind little kid moved the body of the huge grown man to that really tall platform? Seriously?), and that the Mason system was just confusing and if we didn't know better it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that it was a freaking time machine or something.
I loved the feel of AJ, the new graphics, the music, and the main characters were great. The only thing that put me off at first was Phoenix's... situation, but by the time the fourth case rolled around I was totally sold on it. So yeah, I'd love to see a continuation of Apollo's story.
*ahem* So, how was it?
I have a DS Lite. I used to have the Mario Kart red DS, but the screen cracked and Nintendo doesn't make parts for it anymore, so they sent me a Lite. Anyway, I've imported once before. Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten, for my Japanese class. I also have a friend who got impatient and imported Pokemon HeartGold. But yeah, I know the newer games are region locked if you use a DSi.
Haven't seen it yet. I just got my paycheck yesterday, but I don't have access to a DVD player to play it in- plus its not out on film yet here for another month or so.
It aired in British movie theaters last week though. Don't know, if you live there you might be able to catch it.
EDIT: Google is your friend. The movie came to British theaters last week, but the English language Blu-Ray for those in the US, Canada, etc. already came out in September.
Yeah it was pretty good, my main problem was with the way it explained its back-story at the start. It did it in that really weird stilted way that I always find in Japanese films, oh and some of the dialogue's super quiet in places with loud out-of-place music drowning it out.
Bar that it was a pretty fun watch, it's not as good a story as the new game but it's still good stuff. There's a Chelmey replacement who had me guffaw'ing a good few times ad the puzzles are nicely worked in. You'll find yourself smiling a lot when you ear the musical cues from the game
Who said anything about the game being in 3D? For all we know the only reason it's on the 3DS is because DS cartridges not have the space they need for this game or something... Well that or a few 3D puzzles or something.
Trials and Trib was a really mixed bag for me. I loved the first case where you get to play as Mia (my favorite character) and the Masque*DeMask case was a blast, but The Furio Tigre case was terrible and the final case was so made of convenient things. Honestly, if one thing hadn't happened properly Godot's whole plan to cover things up would have gone straight to hell in a handbasket.
Between all that and the fact that I didn't find Godot threatening or his backstory interesting (the last prosecutor I viewed as a decent threat was Franziska), I just really had a hard time with that game. I still like it, but I felt that (sans the last case due to the MASON system melarkey and the end of Turnabout Serenade) AJ just presented more solid cases.
and Phoenix Wright was obviously originally a game boy game. It's interesting to say the least. Annoying at times and I'm really starting to hate Miles Edgeworth (And that's just one case in).
If you'll excuse me, I have to update the "Video Game Crushes" Thread
This Layton-Ace Attorney crossover gives me another reason to want a 3DS.
A little warning about the first Phoenix Wright game
He'll grow on you eventually. Though probably not for a while.
Quoted for truth.
Edgeworth really comes into stride partway through case three (the second case he appears in), and actually gets a lot of character development in case 4 (
Edit:
Forgot to mention, if you can't find the DS releases of the Phoenix Wright games (the first three), they're also on the Wii Shop Channel for 1,000 points ($10 USD) a piece. The last trial of game 1 costs an additional 100 points... this trial is more advanced than the trials in the first 3 games as it was added in the DS version of the game. Similar technology was used in Apollo Justice.
Capcom's Online Store has Ace Attorney in its deal of the week. Specifically, Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice (game 4) DS for $15 and Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth (game 5) DS for $24, this week only.