Time travel evidence!?

edited November 2010 in General Chat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6RjpD1vwh8&feature=player_embedded#!

Just to be fun, let's humor our selves with the title. Enough said for the opening post as well. Though, there has been other time travel evidence out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOeU7cBN8TQ

LOL

Not very scientific but still fun. Here is some premier footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWU8pcmezg&feature=related

I like this video (Some one's speculation )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF8WF3vGUn8&feature=related

Comments

  • edited October 2010
    Travelling back in time is physically nonsense as far as we know today and i strongly doubt this will ever change as there are just too many things speaking against it but what's possible is travelling forwards in time. Problem is that the faster you want to travel through time the more impracticable it gets due to mass/speed/energy issues. Maybe we'll find a neat trick for travelling forwards in time some day.

    Here is the good news: we are already time travellers relative to our orbiting satellites.
  • edited October 2010
    When I think of time traveling I think of the Philadelphia Experiment.
  • edited October 2010
    Morlocks...
  • edited October 2010
    taumel wrote: »
    Travelling back in time is physically nonsense as far as we know today and i strongly doubt this will ever change as there are just too many things speaking against it but what's possible is travelling forwards in time. Problem is that the faster you want to travel through time the more impracticable it gets due to mass/speed/energy issues. Maybe we'll find a neat trick for travelling forwards in time some day.

    I really don't like it when people speak in absolutes in science about things that have no real methodology , no defining process(es) that do not fabricate the scientific identity behind them.

    It's a human weakness and insecurity to rush to label everything and define things outside of scientific fact, simply because we can't not truly disprove or prove the concept in full.

    Time travel is yet to be defined ,if you ask me, other wise it would either exist or be disproved all together. There are several theories surrounding time travel but there isn't any actual time travel yet that exists.

    I really hate it when forum users or even Einsteins say something is nonsense. Time travel has no true application to science yet, in my opinion. We are able to test things that are proven, that do exist in a physical, scientific nature, elements. We weave reality in front of our eyes but that doesn't mean we have it truly calculated in full. We have theories, we don't have proof or disproof, we have limitations based on what we do know and what we don't know, and WORSE of all what we assume will hold true, and more questions to be answered than answers their self.

    That is how I feel personally.
  • edited October 2010
    Time travel will not exist as time does not exist.
    It's just a measurement concept created by humans.

    Time does not pass. Everything is just happening around us.
  • edited October 2010
    Origami wrote: »
    Time travel will not exist as time does not exist.
    It's just a measurement concept created by humans.

    Time does not pass. Everything is just happening around us.


    Isn't that sort of like saying, thoughts don't exist, they aren't true, because we've created them in our brains.

    Maybe we don't exist because we see and perceive ourselves as we do from our brains in our limited way, on our dimensional plains...maybe in the actual universe we're something entirely different. Though we can not exist because different and exist are just human words made out of our brains...


    In fact perception, words, life, is all meaning less now as meaning is constructed from our brains and the fact that we even breathe, live, is just of our own wills and will is constructed from thoughts and the body's mind idea that life is worth sustaining with us on a subconscious, some times conscious level...

    In fact we're all worthless, and everything we do and say is miscalculated and unimportant.

    That's basically the size of it, the bigger picture of that.
  • edited October 2010
    Travel will not exist because physical space does not exist.
    It's just a measurement concept created by humans.

    Space does not pass. Stuff just exists around us.
  • edited October 2010
    @doodo
    I don't understand why you feel that people are rushing things out but i believe in physics which make sense from the concept, maybe have some falsifiability tests or which just work in practice. For instance GPS works due to Einstein's theory of relativity and so far we haven't found a better theory/concept for doing those calculations.

    I suggest those believing into some of the pseudo/rebel physics which you can easily find on the internet and make no sense as soon as you have some physical education, should also use technology driven by those principles, this would turn them faster into reasonable beeings than any discussion about the subject.

    I also don't understand your problem with the concept of time. There might be better models in the future but the problems remain. Forward it is possible and relatively happening all around you every second, backwards nada. Like it or not. :O)
  • edited October 2010
    Well, this might interest some of you. I can't really offer a technical debate either way.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imaq16YuEnE

    LOL ok though, we wont be that advanced 100 years from now.
    HAHAAH Brilliant! They have the tour guide talking to kids as a excuse to dumb down science for people like me!
    taumel wrote: »
    @doodo
    I don't understand why you feel that people are rushing things out but i believe in physics which make sense from the concept, maybe have some falsifiability tests or which just work in practice. For instance GPS works due to Einstein's theory of relativity and so far we haven't found a better theory/concept for doing those calculations.

    I suggest those believing into some of the pseudo/rebel physics which you can easily find on the internet and make no sense as soon as you have some physical education, should also use technology driven by those principles, this would turn them faster into reasonable beeings than any discussion about the subject.

    I also don't understand your problem with the concept of time. There might be better models in the future but the problems remain. Forward it is possible and relatively happening all around you every second, backwards nada. Like it or not. :O)

    Well, maybe you're right. I just want to believe in time travel. Though to be fair I am very under educated for such an advanced topic.
  • edited October 2010
    taumel wrote: »
    Morlocks...

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  • edited October 2010
    Just watch the video secret Fawful. It's actually pretty interesting. I'm going to finish it later. I began it once a while ago but never finished it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imaq16YuEnE
  • edited October 2010
    @dodoo
    Well, after Einstein you have two possibilities travelling slower through time and so travelling forwards relative to more earth like systems outside of yours: either you get into the influence of a strong gravitation field, like for instance a black hole or you travel through space trying to get as close to lightspeed as you can. Needless to say that so far we pretty much suck in both disciplines. Others are more looking at the quantum scale/effects and a.o. the concept of that time is curved as well. Anway time out ...

    @SecrectFawful
    :O)
  • edited October 2010
    taumel wrote: »
    @dodoo
    Well, after Einstein you have two possibilities travelling slower through time and so travelling forwards relative to more earth like systems outside of yours: either you get into the influence of a strong gravitation field, like for instance a black hole or you travel through space trying to get as close to lightspeed as you can. Needless to say that so far we pretty much suck in both disciplines. Others are more looking at the quantum scale/effects and a.o. the concept of that time is curved as well. Anway time out ...

    @SecrectFawful
    :O)

    Thank you for putting it simply. I think I understand.

    I think as a artist, concept designer, (in training) I'm just conditioned or inspired, to want to believe in alternative theories, new discoveries.

    I have a hard time closing off, even if there is a historical and academic back ground backing something up.

    I just hate it when something like this can be painted black and white, especially when black and white are just colors.
  • edited October 2010
    I don't know if time travel is possible or not, but if it is, I'd like to either witness the Gettysburg address or go to the Star Wars premier :)
  • edited October 2010
    doodo! wrote: »
    Isn't that sort of like saying, thoughts don't exist, they aren't true, because we've created them in our brains.

    No, thoughts are literally a part of our brains. This is measurable fact. IE: Cut out some parts of the brain and your personality can drastically change.
    doodo! wrote: »
    Maybe we don't exist because we see and perceive ourselves as we do from our brains in our limited way, on our dimensional plains...maybe in the actual universe we're something entirely different. Though we can not exist because different and exist are just human words made out of our brains...


    In fact perception, words, life, is all meaning less now as meaning is constructed from our brains and the fact that we even breathe, live, is just of our own wills and will is constructed from thoughts and the body's mind idea that life is worth sustaining with us on a subconscious, some times conscious level...

    In fact we're all worthless, and everything we do and say is miscalculated and unimportant.

    That's basically the size of it, the bigger picture of that.

    what does this have to do with anything
  • edited October 2010
    It was a tangent I think. I really don't know science so it would be wrong for me to debate time. But I imagine that you cut out some parts of time the way we perceive things drastically changes too.
    Then again apparently how we perceive things isn't important. All and all I am alienated, would be alienated if I tried to have a conversation about "time"...

    But for the sake of humoring you and needlessly empowering your ego I'll talk gibberish for you.

    Nah, maybe I'll just learn to entertain myself in other ways.


    If we're going to talk about "time travel" that would be fine but we're talking about something that doesn't exist travel.

    LOL, and I've seen the concept of time in movies/documentaries on the Discovery channel.

    I don't dare continue this conversation here though. I see what you're all saying but it doesn't really leave us anywhere especially in time...
  • edited October 2010
    Time is the one thing I don't have.
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    I don't think Time travel will ever be possible for us. Time travel is the fourth dimension. Trying to time travel, would be like trying to teach a stick figure, doodled on your notebook, what a sphere is. They just can't visualise it, and we never will be able to do the same with Time travel. Four Dimensional beings should theoretically be able to step from one time to another the same way we step from one spot to the next.

    Alternatively, if Time travel does somehow get invented by Humans, then it's very likely you will need two machines: a start point and an end point, like a telephone. You can only travel to a time where there is another functional machine.
  • edited October 2010
    Giant Tope wrote: »

    I'd say this is definitely it, in the clip you can also she her/ him, reaching into the other side of the coat with the other hand.
  • edited October 2010
    I have a theory:
    If time travel was actually possible, I could note down this particular point in time and in the future, when I invent time travel, I come back to this specific moment and tell myself how to invent the time machine, thereby eradicating the fact that you'd need lots and lots of physics knowledge to do it.

    Seeing as that hasn't happened, I deduce that time travel is, and forever will be, impossible.
  • edited October 2010
    I deduce that time travel is, and forever will be, impossible.

    Plus, if time travel would be possible in the future, we'd be flooded with time traveling tourists by now. We're not, so: There'll never be time travel.
  • edited October 2010
    Plus, if time travel would be possible in the future, we'd be flooded with time traveling tourists by now. We're not, so: There'll never be time travel.

    LOL. There's all sorts of technology we currently posses not available to "tourists". :)
  • edited October 2010
    A.o. Stephen Hawking also made the experiment that he arranged a party for time travellers and made it public only afterwards. Guess what, no one showed up.
  • edited October 2010
    taumel wrote: »
    A.o. Stephen Hawking also made the experiment that he arranged a party for time travellers and made it public only afterwards. Guess what, no one showed up.
    If time travel gets invented two centuries from now, who will even remember that experiment anymore? And who would want to risk the dramatic change that could happen if they go there? Arguments like that are cheap.
  • edited November 2010
    I would consider your argumentation beeing more reasonable if you did the experiment instead of some of the most popular scientists these decades.
  • edited November 2010
    The thing i find interesting is the term "Deja Vu"

    Everyone probably experienced that at some point.
    Just a moment where u freeze and feel like "wait, i did this before or this all looks familiar to me in some way" .. Like youre "out of sync" for a sec.

    Medically i believe they say its a communication failure between your left / right part of the brain.

    But still the brain is also an interesting subject because of how much % we use of the brain.

    1 thing i do want to say is the fact "never say never".
    If you go back 100 or 200 years and you would mention that we would fly one day or travel to the moon and back they would probably say that you're insane at that era, same as we do now when we talk about time travel, teleportation or whatever sci-fi thingie it is.
  • edited November 2010
    How much time do you need for stopping earth's rotation just by staring at it?

    I think never is the proper term for the chance that this will ever happen, no matter if we're able to land on a blanket, our moon or exosolar planets due to the way our universe works.
  • edited November 2010
    Origami wrote: »
    Time travel will not exist as time does not exist.
    It's just a measurement concept created by humans.

    Time does not pass. Everything is just happening around us.
    Travel will not exist because physical space does not exist.
    It's just a measurement concept created by humans.

    Space does not pass. Stuff just exists around us.

    lol Dashing.

    also, [random brain fart]

    "Fear does not exist in this dojo! Does it?"
    "NO SENSEI!"

    "Pain does not exist in this dojo! Does it?"
    "NO SENSEI!"

    "Defeat does not exist in this dojo! Does it?"
    "NO SENSEI!"
    [/random brain fart]
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