SCREW THIS FORUM. I had a longer reply but this forum decided it wasn't good enough for it so it deleted it. STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
Okay, so basically I was going to say this:
I'll watch the Legend of Chun-Li. I'm going to watch the anime Street Fighter movies and series. I watched Street Fighter II: The Movie. It opens with a fight. It has a lot of fights. Even a couple of memorable ones. It wasn't an amazing Street Fighter movie, but it was a great one.
Um, let's see. John Woo's The Killer - It's like if Sergio Leone made a movie set in modern Japan about yakuza, assassins, and detectives. This is a very memorable movie, with gunfights that put The Matrix to shame. Those were the words that got me to watch it, and I'm pretty glad I did. It also has a strong, well-written emotional center, something foreign to action movies. I highly recommend this one.
Only do it as long as you perfectly understand that those will be precious minutes of your life that you'll never get back. Same goes for the other animated movies from what I've heard. And the cartoon (well, ok, I remember this one being fun in a stupid way, my favorite quote has to be Chun-li: *something about Bison killing her father* Bison: Yeah yeah, I killed your father. What is it with you women anyway? I killed my father too and you dont see me whining about it). II V was awesome though when they're not taking half an episode charging a hadouken IIRC.
No, seriously, I did enjoy this one but something just appealed to me more in Legacy. Speaking of Legacy, I watched a few minutes of the 3D Bluray. It's so... beautiful.
And this is why numbered ratings are essentially useless.
I agree, I never really look at the number, just the individual comments to get a general ideas of what about the movie is good and bad and whether I would like it. You'll not I didn't put numbered marks to my critics either. In my opinion, they're useless at best, misleading at worst.
I just got back from seeing Scream 4. I have to say I'm extreamly impressed. I knew the original cast, writer, and director were back but I still had doubts that they would be able to make a sequel that would be at least as good as the original. But Scream 4 is actually just as enjoyable (if not more so) then the original. I think the key of the movie is that it doesn't take itself seriously. In fact, the movie is a bit of an inside commentary on the craze of remaking horror movies. Most of the movie is self aware jokes as the killer is basicly trying to re-created the murders from the original film so that they can make a remake of the movie with-in-the movie "STAB"
Sounds silly I know, but it works. Overall, I found the movie very enjoyable. There was some predictable moments yes but that's to be expected coming from a movie that is a bit of a commentary on Horror movies anyway. However, i was surprised by who the killer was. I had a solid list of suspects who I thought would be the killer and I was wrong on all of them. Maybe I'm stupid? (don't answer that lol)
Due Date - 3/10
Boring. Just a string of increasingly unlikely and unfunny scenarios strung together by a weak stab at character development. I disliked the allegedly "lovably quirky" main character. I didn't even care if they achieved their goal or not, let alone whether they learned anything in the attempt. Weirdly, I did enjoy The Hangover - kind of the same schtick but done better.
The King's Speech - 8/10
I was really surprised I didn't fall in love with this (I'd heard so many raves about it that I was probably expecting a little too much). It's a good movie, and I'd recommend it for the performances of Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush alone. I heard that the final scenes moved some people to tears - not me, although they were certainly stirring.
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader - 7/10
Totally coloured by nostalgia for me - the movie is not actually that good, but I love Narnia hard. There's at least one point in that rating solely for my emotional response to Reepicheep where he
chooses to go to Aslan's country (i.e. die) because he feels he's done all he can and that death is the next adventure.
F*cking mouse, make me cry why don't you.
Galaxy Quest - 8/10
By Grabthar's hammer, I love that movie.
Not giving number grades as I am not really good at that sort of thing, I just know if movies are bad or good and what I liked or didn't like about them.
The Iron Giant - Good
Really a nice story, and very very fun, I liked everything about it.
Many moments where I would laugh out loud, especially at Kent Mansley and Dean
And it really surprised me when I learned it was Vin Diesel who was voicing the Giant.
The Road to El Dorado - Good
My all time favourite cartoon, I love everything about it.
Such a shame the movie that was going to follow got cancelled.
Treasure Planet - Good
Watched this a long time ago, so I couldn't remember a thing about it when I watched it this time around.
Really fun movie, and many moments I laughed.
Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas - Good
Solid story and many fun moments, loved Brad Pitt and Catherine Zeta-Jones voice work.
Treasure Planet - Good
Watched this a long time ago, so I couldn't remember a thing about it when I watched it this time around.
Really fun movie, and many moments I laughed.
I haven't seen that movie in forever, but I absolutely love it.
Playing the new Mortal Kombat game made me want to watch the movie again. I hadn't see it in a long while and remembered very little from it which kinda gave me a fresh new look at the film.
Mortal Kombat: 7 out of 10
First off, the movie is not as bad as it could have been. In fact, the movie is actually very entertaining. The actors they have cast as the characters look like their video game counterparts and most of the fight scenes are fun to watch. It the story that's really the down fall of the film. There are a lot of things they could have done to flesh out the story. For example, the rival between Sub Zero and Scorpion wasn't there. Instead, they just used the as puppets. Jonny Cage wasn't as big of an ass hole as they should have made him and why is Shang Tsung rounding up fighters for Earth? That doesn't make sense. Doesn't he want to win? lol And Princess Kitana could have used a larger role as well. It's clear that they really didn't care much about the story anyway. It's clear their main intention was to create a movie that looked liked Mortal Kombat with fightscenes between trademark characters from the game. And they pulled that off well enough.
The special effects are very outdated. Shots such as Sub Zero's Ice Attack and Scorpions Chain Attack still look good while Reptile's lizzard form and Scorpions Skull Face just look ridiculous. Ahh, and Goro. I'm a bit mixed on him. First off, I applaud them for not going Full CGI on him but he still wasn't that convinving. He wasn't as bad as Reptile though.
Overall, I enjoyed the film. It wasn't as story driven as it could have been and the special effects didn't hold up well with the times but the fightscenes were fun, there was some funny comedy relief with Jonny Cage, and overall it kept the look of the Mortal Kombat games.
The only reason this isn't a 0 out of 10 is because of how hard I was laughing at the movie. I'm not even going to go into detail about how bad it is. One word: ClusterF***.
Aliens .... 10/10
JAWS .... 9/10
Unthinkable .... oh i don't know... let's say 6/10. It was good enough to watch the whole thing, which is a lot for me. It still wasn't great though.
I wasn't expecting too much but it easily surpassed my expectations. After Scream 3, I had little hope for the movie but with its tongue-in-cheek humor, impressive pacing and suspenseful scenes, it takes second place next to the original.
This movie is getting terrible reviews. I don't understand why. Me and four friends went to see it for my birthday, and all of us were genuinely cracking up the entire time. Plus, he had a Delorean Time Machine. Instant points for that.
You can watch a lot of movies in the time it takes to fly halfway round the planet.
Rain Man - 9/10
Self-centred dude (Tom Cruise) takes his long-lost autistic brother (Dustin Hoffman) on a road trip. See it if you haven't already. Hoffman is so amazing in this, it makes it hurt to think of that Focker shit he's doing now.
No Strings Attached - 7/10
Friends (Ashton Kutcher and Natalie Portman) do the "with benefits" thing. I like crap like this. It's solid. It's sweet. It's predictable. It's the romantic comedy equivalent of Cadbury's Dairy Milk. Interesting note: with glasses, a long fringe, and a decent crop of facial hair, Cary Elwes totally looks like Philip Seymour Hoffman.
How Do You Know? - 5/10
Kind of slow. An ex-professional softball player (Reese Witherspoon) dallies with two very different guys (star baseball pitcher Owen Wilson and corporate dude Paul Rudd), and along the way learns about who she is and what she wants. It's a character-driven movie with characters I actually found a little two-dimensional, although that could just be the Owen Wilson influence blinding me.
Season of the Witch - 3/10
I love Nic Cage. He's an absolute champ of an actor. Sure he does some abysmal movies, but even when he must KNOW it's going to be a stinker, he damn well acts his little heart out anyway. This movie has him as a deserting crusader who's press-ganged into escorting a "witch" to an isolated monastery for trial. One entire point here is for the sequence with the
demon and the possessed monks
, because it vaguely reminded me of Army of Darkness. I think it may have been serious though.
The Next Three Days - 7/10
Decent heist/escape movie with more nuance than I was expecting. I particularly liked that
it was left somewhat ambiguous as to whether or not the wife was actually guilty.
Good stuff.
Fair Game - 8/10
Based on the true story of a CIA agent (Naomi Watts) whose identity is leaked to the media by the government in an attempt to discredit her husband (Sean Penn) and a damning article he wrote on the government's likely intelligence at the point they started the 2003 Iraq war. Lack of intimate familiarity with the historical details means I have little idea which bits are true and which bits are Hollywood drama, but regardless of accuracy the film rolls along at a good pace.
The Dilemma - 3/10
Dude (Vince Vaughn) struggles to tell other dude that his wife (Winona Ryder) is shoplifting. Or sleeping with someone else, or something. I actually slipped into a little snooze at some point, but pretty sure I didn't miss anything worth watching.
Tangled - 6/10
A modern take on the Rapunzel fairytale, squidged into the typical Disney "princess who wants more" mould. Fast forwarding through all those lame songs is recommended, otherwise it's pretty ok.
Hereafter - 6/10
Converging stories of three people who have been touched by death in some way -
a woman who had a near-death experience when drowning, a genuine psychic, and a little boy whose twin brother dies.
It's all right but perhaps I just didn't feel much of a personal connection to it, besides
tearing up for the little boy Marcus.
Griff the Invisible - 7/10
A peek into the life of geeky Griff (Ryan Kwanten), a man who believes he has superpowers and thus a responsibility to protect the general populace from evil. I think it's a deceptively serious film. On the whole it's gently amusing, but it left me with a lot more to think about than I initially thought it would.
Griff's imagination goes beyond merely quirky and pushes him into the realms of mental illness, to the point where he is unable to function successfully in everyday life. It's an amusing film, with greater undertones of sadness (for me at least) towards the end as you begin to understand how serious this stuff is for Griff.
Inside Job - 9/10
Nice, concise and pretty readily accessible documentary on the contributors to the global financial crisis.
Absolutely loved it. I thought it was a fantastic film with a great sense of humour and an amazingly perfect cast, but looking back at it, there were flaws.
A few characters were underused (You'll know them almost as soon as you see them) and the main villain
at no point gives any impression of being the God of Mischief
, which makes a few lines of dialogue seem somewhat hollow. Maybe an quick extra scene of Thor and co. growing up would have done a lot to fix that. Also, the film just sort of stops one line short of the actual ending. It's a little jarring. (My thoughts on the missing line?
"Well, let's not keep her waiting, hmm?"
)
Otherwise, it's a great little romp, and I'm led to believe that Chris Hemsworth is pretty damn handsome, so there's something for the ladies to enjoy as well as the men. So yeah, go check it out.
I saw Thor too, last weekend.
While I enjoyed some things, I disliked plenty, too.
The effects were good but the movie seemed flawed to me. The most jarring for me:
Thor and Jane barely interact, and then from one second to the next they're madly in love and having to be away from each other is the worst thing ever. Oh, and everybody else is aware of that, Loki for instance mentions it twice. I'm glad he did because it certainly wasn't as obvious to me as it was to him.
Another part I didn't like is
when Thor "sacrifices" himself. Loki stops fighting, sparing the civilians, but then Thor gets his hammer back and he's like "screw what I just said! I'm going to start over the fight no matter how much more stuff I cause to get destroyed! Everybody will be glad and I'll keep the hammer even though I'm coming back on the promise that caused me to get it back!"
Speaking of promises,
Thor makes a bunch and keeps exactly zero of them. That started bugging me after a while.
I also found it a bit like racial profiling
that the villain is from the other species. Kind of makes it look like being a "good guy" or "bad guy" is raced-based, which sucks
.
I don't think I've ever rooted for a villain more, either. Actually,
for a big part of the story I was hoping they were putting all these hints against Loki in order to deceive us and that he was innocent.
And at the end,
I don't know if Odin is a jerk or a moron, but his son who has spent his life trying to get recognised because Odin treated him like shit compared to his brother finally asks his father to recognise him, and you just know if Odin does then it will be over, but no, Odin is all "Nope." Since Odin is otherwise acting pretty wise in the rest of the movie, it was jarring to me.
I also didn't get why
Loki is a Frost giant? I always thought he was the God of Mischief and Fire. Was I wrong? I saw him represented with fire for hair in plenty of stuff so I kind of assumed even though I don't remember reading it in those terms, so it was weird to me that he was an ice creature instead. Actually, I thought that he could resist the frost because he's a fire dude, so the revelation came out of nowhere to me. Speaking of which, why does he turn into a white baby when Odin picks him up? And what's that crap about hiding it from him his whole life? His reasons for adopting him are pretty debatable too.
Mmh.... I think that's about it. I also found the main story of Thor getting banished and the Gods' story and all to be infinitely more interesting than the part on Earth and the recurring Earth characters, and I think I would have preferred it to be more centered on that.
Character-wise, Thor is a big jerk that I couldn't feel anything positive towards in the whole movie, his friends sound like there is a lot to them but where barely developed, Loki is the most realistic character except
when he gets batshit crazy and decides to destroy a whole race - minus himself - to prove a point
but isn't developed enough either to my liking, and the Earth characters are boring and I would have enjoyed the movie better if they simply were not in it. The Frost giants are barely developed apart from "hey, guys, they're villains, okay?"
Odin is a bit weird, he's got lots of flaws, which is good because Norse Gods are meant to be flawed, but he seemed to be presented as a wise guy who made the rights decisions and all. Basically, there was a disconnect between how I felt about him and how I felt the movie was telling me to feel about him.
Ultimately I liked the acting and I liked the effects (although did we need to see the whole bridge crossing thing every time? They could have skipped it more and added more character development instead), but I didn't care much for most of the characters or for the story.
Thor and Jane barely interact, and then from one second to the next they're madly in love and having to be away from each other is the worst thing ever. Oh, and everybody else is aware of that, Loki for instance mentions it twice. I'm glad he did because it certainly wasn't as obvious to me as it was to him.
2-Another part I didn't like is
when Thor "sacrifices" himself. Loki stops fighting, sparing the civilians, but then Thor gets his hammer back and he's like "screw what I just said! I'm going to start over the fight no matter how much more stuff I cause to get destroyed! Everybody will be glad and I'll keep the hammer even though I'm coming back on the promise that caused me to get it back!"
3-Speaking of promises,
Thor makes a bunch and keeps exactly zero of them. That started bugging me after a while.
4-I don't think I've ever rooted for a villain more, either. Actually,
for a big part of the story I was hoping they were putting all these hints against Loki in order to deceive us and that he was innocent.
And at the end,
I don't know if Odin is a jerk or a moron, but his son who has spent his life trying to get recognised because Odin treated him like shit compared to his brother finally asks his father to recognise him, and you just know if Odin does then it will be over, but no, Odin is all "Nope." Since Odin is otherwise acting pretty wise in the rest of the movie, it was jarring to me.
5-I also didn't get why
Loki is a Frost giant? I always thought he was the God of Mischief and Fire. Was I wrong? I saw him represented with fire for hair in plenty of stuff so I kind of assumed even though I don't remember reading it in those terms, so it was weird to me that he was an ice creature instead. Actually, I thought that he could resist the frost because he's a fire dude, so the revelation came out of nowhere to me. Speaking of which, why does he turn into a white baby when Odin picks him up? And what's that crap about hiding it from him his whole life? His reasons for adopting him are pretty debatable too.
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Did you even look at Thor? How wouldn't she fall in love with that? XD More seriously, I considered it more like chivalry at the beginning or something like that, then when he got Jane's really important notebook back and spent all night talking about SCIENCE under the stars was when the love started. Before that it was definitely what I said first for Jane though >.>
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Uh, the hammer came back by itself to revive Thor, he had nothing to do with it since he was powerless.
3-That's what sequels and the Avengers movie are for!
Besides, he DID get Jane's stuff back, even if it was only the notebook.
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Well, Loki DID start a war and was about to commit mass genocide just to get daddy's attention, Odin got furious when Thor did the first and banished him, why would he go "well done son" for Loki? Besides, Odin did say he loved him like if he was his own son already and never did I see or hear that he treated Loki like shit.
Did anyone watch the after credits scene? Also, I'm pretty sure Loki is the villain in The Avengers. Loki versus Iron Man seems like it would be pretty easy, as Iron Man didn't react too well to being frozen when he tried to go into space in movie one.
As far as Thor, I saw it with two other guys, and we sat in the front row and riffed on it just like Mystery Science Theater 3000 the whole time. A good portion of the riff was referencing this which is the only way I can even see Thor now. We were only loud enough for us to hear each other though. All in all, that made it one of the most fun experiences I've had in a theater, with memorable riffs such as-
((Thor begins flying))
Me: "I'm Peter Pan! WEEE!"
((first look at Asgardian armor))
Friend 1: "So, this is the first gay porn you can see in family theaters?"
((some character says "This is madness!"))
Friend 1: THIS
Me: IS
Friend 2: ASGARD!
((first look at Loki))
Me: Oh lord, not Son of the Mask AGAIN! ((begins to make for the door))
Did you even look at Thor? How wouldn't she fall in love with that? XD More seriously, I considered it more like chivalry at the beginning or something like that, then when he got Jane's really important notebook back and spent all night talking about SCIENCE under the stars was when the love started. Before that it was definitely what I said first for Jane though >.>
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I liked Loki better, actually . But in Jane's case, yeah, at first it's like "hey, he's a hot guy" and then "hey, he might be an alien, good for my research" and they "hey, he's a God!" so I guess I can see why she would be fascinated by him. But I really didn't get it the other way around. There didn't seem to me to be many signs that he liked her that way, or reasons for him to, really, and then suddenly being apart from her is the most horrible thing ever.
Uh, the hammer came back by itself to revive Thor, he had nothing to do with it since he was powerless.
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The hammer came back because Thor was now worth it, because he had agreed to sacrifice himself to end the battle and spare innocents. His first act when getting the hammer back? Fighting some more, or the opposite of the reason why he got the hammer. He even started a storm, which had the potential to do more damage. I'm not complaining that he got the hammer back, but that it caused him to fight some more.
Well, Loki DID start a war and was about to commit mass genocide just to get daddy's attention, Odin got furious when Thor did the first and banished him, why would he go "well done son" for Loki? Besides, Odin did say he loved him like if he was his own son already and never did I see or hear that he treated Loki like shit.
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Well, I might be biased... I don't know, when I saw the scene when they're kids, right away it looked to me like Thor was the kid who's always loud and proud and Loki ended up in the background. In cases like that, the quieter kid often feels ignored because the noisy one gets all the attention - even when it's bad attention - and the quiet one feels like they get none. So I already felt that way from the first scene they appeared.
As for Odin's reaction, there are two things: one,
he could have said "yes, son, I know you would have. But..." and then bitched him. He didn't treat him like he treated Thor, by explaining why he was upset and banishing him. He just said "no". At other times in the movie, he just shuts him off like that, too.
And two,
banishing Thor was a good thing for him to change his attitude. And that's what you're supposed to do, reform people. It's not about punishing them because you're upset, it's about solving the problem. And being banished caused Thor to stop being so arrogant (well, being unable to use Mjolnir and then being told by Loki that his father was dead caused it, that's when you see his attitude change. But these are tied to the banishment). As far as Loki goes, Odin's reaction is only likely to make things worse. And if he was about to mass-murder people now, who's to know what he's going to do next? I'm not saying he shouldn't get any consequences for his actions, but this seemed like pouring oil onto the fire more than anything else.
And yes, I saw the post-credit sequence. I didn't comment on it because I didn't really have anything to say about it.
Really, my problem with Odin is the discrepancy between his flaws and how I felt the movie presented him as wise and good. When you look at it, he makes lots of mistakes
for instance he's about to make Thor King when he's obviously not ready
but his attitude and the one of many other characters are like he can do no wrong. His wife says he always does things for a reason, and the gate guy is completely devoted to him, for instance.
You really think he would've let Thor live though? No way Loki would've stopped the attack now that Thor had the hammer again. I see it this way, before his only choice was to sacrifice himself if he wanted to save the others, but now he regained the power to kick that thing's and Loki's ass and had a choice that didn't include him dieing so he has no good reason to do the former again unless he was feeling suicidal for whatever reason.
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Well yeah, that was how you were supposed to feel about Loki. As you said though, Odin does make mistakes. Still, I'd imagine Odin's priority was to prevent genocide first, THEN deal with Loki's self-esteem issues. The problem is that he kinda fell off a bridge before Odin could get to that second part >.>
Still, it's not like its weird for characters that others consider as perfect to make some mistakes anyways.
A lot of Thor was rushed, no mistake. I'd be interested to see if there's any deleted scenes on the Blu-Ray/DVD, 'cause I suspect there might be. That's probably the biggest problem I have with this film. Still love it, believe me, but it is in no way perfect.
1) I liked Loki better, actually . But in Jane's case, yeah, at first it's like "hey, he's a hot guy" and then "hey, he might be an alien, good for my research" and they "hey, he's a God!" so I guess I can see why she would be fascinated by him. But I really didn't get it the other way around. There didn't seem to me to be many signs that he liked her that way, or reasons for him to, really, and then suddenly being apart from her is the most horrible thing ever.
I feel like we're missing scenes here. But think about it from this point of view: You're the God of Thunder. You come from a mystical land of Asgard. And the people of Earth, science-like types that they are, don't believe a single word of this. Then you find someone who not only listens to you, but believes you. Wouldn't you feel attracted to someone who trusts you enough to believe in this 'insane' story?
The hammer came back because Thor was now worth it, because he had agreed to sacrifice himself to end the battle and spare innocents. His first act when getting the hammer back? Fighting some more, or the opposite of the reason why he got the hammer. He even started a storm, which had the potential to do more damage. I'm not complaining that he got the hammer back, but that it caused him to fight some more.
Someone else addressed this, but
Thor was dead. The hammer returned to him because he had proven himself worthy of wielding it - sacrificing himself to prevent the destruction of innocents being the sort of noble thing that Gods do, apparently.
And once Thor was resurrected, you think the Guardian (no, not that one) was just gonna turn around and walk away? No, he was gonna turn back and try to kill Thor all kinds of dead. So what does Thor do? Summons a whirlwind and gets the Guardian (not that one either) away from the (model) city while he beats him up. He doesn't fight him there, he gets him away from those innocents. Again, being all noble and stuff. If fighting is inevitable, do it where people won't get hurt.
when I saw the scene when they're kids, right away it looked to me like Thor was the kid who's always loud and proud and Loki ended up in the background. In cases like that, the quieter kid often feels ignored because the noisy one gets all the attention - even when it's bad attention - and the quiet one feels like they get none. So I already felt that way from the first scene they appeared.
Can't defend that too much, except to say that maybe that's the way the film meant it to be. Can't remember that much about that scene in particular (it's been a week, give me a break) but the film's trying to focus on why Thor's wrong, not why Loki's right. Plus, I think this is kinda how younger brothers act/feel sometimes. Not speaking from experience, mind.
But again, missing scenes! If we'd seen a brief montage of the two growing up, this could well have been fixed - plus, we'd actually get to see Loki being 'The God of Mischief', which is one of my other issues with the film.
As for Odin's reaction, there are two things: one,
he could have said "yes, son, I know you would have. But..." and then bitched him. He didn't treat him like he treated Thor, by explaining why he was upset and banishing him. He just said "no". At other times in the movie, he just shuts him off like that, too.
And two,
banishing Thor was a good thing for him to change his attitude. And that's what you're supposed to do, reform people. It's not about punishing them because you're upset, it's about solving the problem. And being banished caused Thor to stop being so arrogant (well, being unable to use Mjolnir and then being told by Loki that his father was dead caused it, that's when you see his attitude change. But these are tied to the banishment). As far as Loki goes, Odin's reaction is only likely to make things worse. And if he was about to mass-murder people now, who's to know what he's going to do next? I'm not saying he shouldn't get any consequences for his actions, but this seemed like pouring oil onto the fire more than anything else.
Really, my problem with Odin is the discrepancy between his flaws and how I felt the movie presented him as wise and good. When you look at it, he makes lots of mistakes
for instance he's about to make Thor King when he's obviously not ready
but his attitude and the one of many other characters are like he can do no wrong. His wife says he always does things for a reason, and the gate guy is completely devoted to him, for instance.
Ok, put yourself in his shoes. Odin's basically been in a coma after telling Loki he was adopted. When he wakes up, he sees that Loki's being doing some pretty bad shit and Thor's manned up to fix it. And then Loki tells him that 'it was all for you'? That's not cool! That's not how you do things!
You don't try to commit genocide just to prove how much you love someone! Are you seriously telling me, that in the heat of the moment, after realising all this, you'd be 'Well, trying to kill everyone was bad, but I get why you did it'?
I'm amazed Odin was as restrained as he was.
You also have to realise that there was no time. In Thor's case,
there was plenty of time to explain why he'd screwed up and why he was being banished. With Loki at the end of the film, it was pretty much life and death, and no-one really had time to think about their actions, Odin included. I'm sure losing Loki hurt him, even if the film didn't really show it (missing scenes, dammit!). Plus, Loki let go. He chose to do that, because he'd let his father down and couldn't live with it. Not sure how else they could have gone with that.
You're right, there's a jar between how Odin acts and how people describe him. But when it comes to his children, who do you think he should have gone with - the quiet 'trickster' who people aren't entirely comfortable having as King (see the reaction of Thor's entourage when they find out he's acting Head of State), or the cocky yet uplifting one who inspires people and whom you see promise in? That promise was always there, I think he was just hoping that being an actual leader would have made it come out. As it was, it took banishment instead, but still. But yes, the film could have made a bigger deal of Odin not being perfect.
Like I say, I feel a lot was glossed over and rushed. That's my biggest problem with this film. But then, if they'd expanded on it, it would have dragged the film out even longer, so... I dunno.
Maybe a couple of extra lines would have helped - maybe one to say that time passes slower on Asgard than it does on Midgard, so we could infer that Thor had spent more time getting to know Jane. Maybe a montage of Thor, Loki and friends growing up would have made them feel like more rounded characters and helped the entourage feel like more than extras. Maybe an extra scene at the end showing Thor and Odin talking about Odin would have cleared up a few of the growing pains you have such issues with. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Also, I think the film ended one line short. My thoughts on the missing line?
Also, I think the film ended one line short. My thoughts on the missing line?
"Well let's not keep her waiting, hm?"
You already said that. I assume you mean before the credits. The thing is,
as I understand it, they have no choice. The bridge is broken and they can't do anything from their side. Now it's up to her to find another way to open a path and get back to him
I totally understand your arguments, and I think the movie had room to be really good, but I felt it focused on some stuff that wasn't essential (mostly to show off cool effects, I guess) and didn't have enough in some other aspects. I enjoyed a lot of it but ultimately I was just disappointed with the way it did some things. Doesn't mean I think it sucks.
I totally understand Odin, as I said, I have less a problem with his character as I have with the way it was presented. Maybe it's just a gut feeling, but I felt like I was being told the character was one way when he acted like he was another way.
As for Loki,
there is no doubt he went overboard. I totally get that, though. He was trying to get attention, and to do that he felt he had to one-up his brother. Which is hard to do when your brother is Thor. I don't get why he went around it in such a stupid way, though. I thought attracting the leader and killing him was smart - since the war was already happening at that point and that would weaken them - and in retrospect letting Frost Giants in only led to them getting killed and wouldn't have hurt Asgard in itself (of course, getting Thor to go attack them did, and that was certainly stupid too) but then he decides to destroy them all? What the hell? They made sure to show us Odin saying that a King should be ready for war but never cause it, and it's obvious neither of his sons listened to that. After Thor disregarded it early on I was hoping at least Loki would have paid some attention. Then again Thor's method seemed to work for him so I can see why Loki tried a different approach. He just went way overboard with it.
Also, Loki didn't say "look what I did". He said "I could have done it". And Odin said "No." Well I'm sorry, but it seemed obvious to me that he could have. He almost did. Sure, it was a terrible thing, but telling Loki "No, you couldn't" wasn't the best answer IMHO.
Anyone ever request government documents? That's what this page reminds me of.
Last movie I saw? hmmm Predator I think.... c'mon it's a classic. Another one of those movies with lines that are repeated ad nauseam...which is a good thing. 8. I don't think there's a point writing a long review about a modern classic.
A lot of Thor was rushed, no mistake. I'd be interested to see if there's any deleted scenes on the Blu-Ray/DVD, 'cause I suspect there might be.
Searching in Google I found a comment from Thor's actor about something like 20 minutes worth of deleted scenes. Supposedly extended fights, Thor and Loki interaction, and some scenes with Odin and his wife.
Also, Loki didn't say "look what I did". He said "I could have done it". And Odin said "No." Well I'm sorry, but it seemed obvious to me that he could have. He almost did. Sure, it was a terrible thing, but telling Loki "No, you couldn't" wasn't the best answer IMHO.
I thought Odin's 'No' was more 'No, you shouldn't have' rather than 'No, you couldn't have'. At least, that's how I read it. Would certainly make more sense that way, wouldn't it? But then again, it's been a week, I can't remember what the actual wording was, so I dunno.
And thanks for sharing the info about the deleted scenes, Sunny. 20 minutes missing does not surprise me at all. I guess I'll have to wait and see if the film is any better with it or not.
I thought Odin's 'No' was more 'No, you shouldn't have' rather than 'No, you couldn't have'. At least, that's how I read it. Would certainly make more sense that way, wouldn't it? But then again, it's been a week, I can't remember what the actual wording was, so I dunno.
Yeah, considering the circunstances and that he was, in fact, right about to do it, it was more of a "no, this isn't what you should do" than a "no, you could never do it"
My thoughts exactly. I enjoyed myself and it's definitely better than certain superhero movies (I'm looking at you 'Hulk') but I felt Iron Man was a little more polished.
Loki is a Frost giant? I always thought he was the God of Mischief and Fire. Was I wrong? I saw him represented with fire for hair in plenty of stuff so I kind of assumed even though I don't remember reading it in those terms, so it was weird to me that he was an ice creature instead. Actually, I thought that he could resist the frost because he's a fire dude, so the revelation came out of nowhere to me. Speaking of which, why does he turn into a white baby when Odin picks him up? And what's that crap about hiding it from him his whole life? His reasons for adopting him are pretty debatable too.
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mythologically, Loki is a Jotún (Frost Giant) that Odin was impressed with, and the two swear an oath to become blood brothers. Loki means "allure" or "fire" so that's probably why they went with those motifs. Aside from making Loki straight-up evil rather than ambiguous, as far as I understand, the Marvel Loki pretty much follows these points of his mythological character.
Last movie I watched was Crank.
That movie is just awesome, it contains action from start to finish and the handheld camera really ads to all the chaos. There is never a dull moment, and I never stop laughing.
Jason Statham is a really cool actor, despite the fact that it took me ages before I even saw the first Transporter movie, now I just love everything he is in.
He really goes all out in Crank so I can give the movie no less than 5/5.
mythologically, Loki is a Jotún (Frost Giant) that Odin was impressed with, and the two swear an oath to become blood brothers. Loki means "allure" or "fire" so that's probably why they went with those motifs. Aside from making Loki straight-up evil rather than ambiguous, as far as I understand, the Marvel Loki pretty much follows these points of his mythological character.
Ah, thanks I knew you of all people would probably be able to explain that one to me.
Comments
Okay, so basically I was going to say this:
I'll watch the Legend of Chun-Li. I'm going to watch the anime Street Fighter movies and series. I watched Street Fighter II: The Movie. It opens with a fight. It has a lot of fights. Even a couple of memorable ones. It wasn't an amazing Street Fighter movie, but it was a great one.
Um, let's see. John Woo's The Killer - It's like if Sergio Leone made a movie set in modern Japan about yakuza, assassins, and detectives. This is a very memorable movie, with gunfights that put The Matrix to shame. Those were the words that got me to watch it, and I'm pretty glad I did. It also has a strong, well-written emotional center, something foreign to action movies. I highly recommend this one.
Only do it as long as you perfectly understand that those will be precious minutes of your life that you'll never get back. Same goes for the other animated movies from what I've heard. And the cartoon (well, ok, I remember this one being fun in a stupid way, my favorite quote has to be Chun-li: *something about Bison killing her father* Bison: Yeah yeah, I killed your father. What is it with you women anyway? I killed my father too and you dont see me whining about it). II V was awesome though when they're not taking half an episode charging a hadouken IIRC.
Legacy was better.
No, seriously, I did enjoy this one but something just appealed to me more in Legacy. Speaking of Legacy, I watched a few minutes of the 3D Bluray. It's so... beautiful.
I agree, I never really look at the number, just the individual comments to get a general ideas of what about the movie is good and bad and whether I would like it. You'll not I didn't put numbered marks to my critics either. In my opinion, they're useless at best, misleading at worst.
I hated The Hangover, and this was directed by the same person so I was a little wary. It was great, though. Very funny.
I loved The Hangover when I first saw it, which was after a boozy lads weekend in Newcastle, it was just a bit too apt.
Found it unwatchable the second time around though
Legacy easily has the highest quality Bluray 3D I've seen so far.
Sounds silly I know, but it works. Overall, I found the movie very enjoyable. There was some predictable moments yes but that's to be expected coming from a movie that is a bit of a commentary on Horror movies anyway. However, i was surprised by who the killer was. I had a solid list of suspects who I thought would be the killer and I was wrong on all of them. Maybe I'm stupid? (don't answer that lol)
But yeah, it was good.
Boring. Just a string of increasingly unlikely and unfunny scenarios strung together by a weak stab at character development. I disliked the allegedly "lovably quirky" main character. I didn't even care if they achieved their goal or not, let alone whether they learned anything in the attempt. Weirdly, I did enjoy The Hangover - kind of the same schtick but done better.
The King's Speech - 8/10
I was really surprised I didn't fall in love with this (I'd heard so many raves about it that I was probably expecting a little too much). It's a good movie, and I'd recommend it for the performances of Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush alone. I heard that the final scenes moved some people to tears - not me, although they were certainly stirring.
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader - 7/10
Totally coloured by nostalgia for me - the movie is not actually that good, but I love Narnia hard. There's at least one point in that rating solely for my emotional response to Reepicheep where he
Galaxy Quest - 8/10
By Grabthar's hammer, I love that movie.
The Iron Giant - Good
Really a nice story, and very very fun, I liked everything about it.
Many moments where I would laugh out loud, especially at Kent Mansley and Dean
And it really surprised me when I learned it was Vin Diesel who was voicing the Giant.
The Road to El Dorado - Good
My all time favourite cartoon, I love everything about it.
Such a shame the movie that was going to follow got cancelled.
Treasure Planet - Good
Watched this a long time ago, so I couldn't remember a thing about it when I watched it this time around.
Really fun movie, and many moments I laughed.
Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas - Good
Solid story and many fun moments, loved Brad Pitt and Catherine Zeta-Jones voice work.
It's Bollywood style. And it's Aishwarya Rai starring in an English language film. Of course I'm gonna love it.
Enchanted - 8/10
Second time watching it. Forgot how sweet and funny it was.
That was basically a chick-flick day for me though. XD
I haven't seen that movie in forever, but I absolutely love it.
Mortal Kombat: 7 out of 10
First off, the movie is not as bad as it could have been. In fact, the movie is actually very entertaining. The actors they have cast as the characters look like their video game counterparts and most of the fight scenes are fun to watch. It the story that's really the down fall of the film. There are a lot of things they could have done to flesh out the story. For example, the rival between Sub Zero and Scorpion wasn't there. Instead, they just used the as puppets. Jonny Cage wasn't as big of an ass hole as they should have made him and why is Shang Tsung rounding up fighters for Earth? That doesn't make sense. Doesn't he want to win? lol And Princess Kitana could have used a larger role as well. It's clear that they really didn't care much about the story anyway. It's clear their main intention was to create a movie that looked liked Mortal Kombat with fightscenes between trademark characters from the game. And they pulled that off well enough.
The special effects are very outdated. Shots such as Sub Zero's Ice Attack and Scorpions Chain Attack still look good while Reptile's lizzard form and Scorpions Skull Face just look ridiculous. Ahh, and Goro. I'm a bit mixed on him. First off, I applaud them for not going Full CGI on him but he still wasn't that convinving. He wasn't as bad as Reptile though.
Overall, I enjoyed the film. It wasn't as story driven as it could have been and the special effects didn't hold up well with the times but the fightscenes were fun, there was some funny comedy relief with Jonny Cage, and overall it kept the look of the Mortal Kombat games.
2.5 out of 10
The only reason this isn't a 0 out of 10 is because of how hard I was laughing at the movie. I'm not even going to go into detail about how bad it is. One word: ClusterF***.
JAWS .... 9/10
Unthinkable .... oh i don't know... let's say 6/10. It was good enough to watch the whole thing, which is a lot for me. It still wasn't great though.
I wasn't expecting too much but it easily surpassed my expectations. After Scream 3, I had little hope for the movie but with its tongue-in-cheek humor, impressive pacing and suspenseful scenes, it takes second place next to the original.
Charming, adorable, hilarious. 2D animation perfection.
Also 'Paul'; the very definition of mediocre.
This movie is getting terrible reviews. I don't understand why. Me and four friends went to see it for my birthday, and all of us were genuinely cracking up the entire time. Plus, he had a Delorean Time Machine. Instant points for that.
Rain Man - 9/10
Self-centred dude (Tom Cruise) takes his long-lost autistic brother (Dustin Hoffman) on a road trip. See it if you haven't already. Hoffman is so amazing in this, it makes it hurt to think of that Focker shit he's doing now.
No Strings Attached - 7/10
Friends (Ashton Kutcher and Natalie Portman) do the "with benefits" thing. I like crap like this. It's solid. It's sweet. It's predictable. It's the romantic comedy equivalent of Cadbury's Dairy Milk. Interesting note: with glasses, a long fringe, and a decent crop of facial hair, Cary Elwes totally looks like Philip Seymour Hoffman.
How Do You Know? - 5/10
Kind of slow. An ex-professional softball player (Reese Witherspoon) dallies with two very different guys (star baseball pitcher Owen Wilson and corporate dude Paul Rudd), and along the way learns about who she is and what she wants. It's a character-driven movie with characters I actually found a little two-dimensional, although that could just be the Owen Wilson influence blinding me.
Season of the Witch - 3/10
I love Nic Cage. He's an absolute champ of an actor. Sure he does some abysmal movies, but even when he must KNOW it's going to be a stinker, he damn well acts his little heart out anyway. This movie has him as a deserting crusader who's press-ganged into escorting a "witch" to an isolated monastery for trial. One entire point here is for the sequence with the
The Next Three Days - 7/10
Decent heist/escape movie with more nuance than I was expecting. I particularly liked that
Fair Game - 8/10
Based on the true story of a CIA agent (Naomi Watts) whose identity is leaked to the media by the government in an attempt to discredit her husband (Sean Penn) and a damning article he wrote on the government's likely intelligence at the point they started the 2003 Iraq war. Lack of intimate familiarity with the historical details means I have little idea which bits are true and which bits are Hollywood drama, but regardless of accuracy the film rolls along at a good pace.
The Dilemma - 3/10
Dude (Vince Vaughn) struggles to tell other dude that his wife (Winona Ryder) is shoplifting. Or sleeping with someone else, or something. I actually slipped into a little snooze at some point, but pretty sure I didn't miss anything worth watching.
Tangled - 6/10
A modern take on the Rapunzel fairytale, squidged into the typical Disney "princess who wants more" mould. Fast forwarding through all those lame songs is recommended, otherwise it's pretty ok.
Hereafter - 6/10
Converging stories of three people who have been touched by death in some way -
Griff the Invisible - 7/10
A peek into the life of geeky Griff (Ryan Kwanten), a man who believes he has superpowers and thus a responsibility to protect the general populace from evil. I think it's a deceptively serious film. On the whole it's gently amusing, but it left me with a lot more to think about than I initially thought it would.
Inside Job - 9/10
Nice, concise and pretty readily accessible documentary on the contributors to the global financial crisis.
Absolutely loved it. I thought it was a fantastic film with a great sense of humour and an amazingly perfect cast, but looking back at it, there were flaws.
A few characters were underused (You'll know them almost as soon as you see them) and the main villain
Otherwise, it's a great little romp, and I'm led to believe that Chris Hemsworth is pretty damn handsome, so there's something for the ladies to enjoy as well as the men. So yeah, go check it out.
While I enjoyed some things, I disliked plenty, too.
The effects were good but the movie seemed flawed to me. The most jarring for me:
Another part I didn't like is
Speaking of promises,
I also found it a bit like racial profiling
I don't think I've ever rooted for a villain more, either. Actually,
I also didn't get why
Mmh.... I think that's about it. I also found the main story of Thor getting banished and the Gods' story and all to be infinitely more interesting than the part on Earth and the recurring Earth characters, and I think I would have preferred it to be more centered on that.
Character-wise, Thor is a big jerk that I couldn't feel anything positive towards in the whole movie, his friends sound like there is a lot to them but where barely developed, Loki is the most realistic character except
Odin is a bit weird, he's got lots of flaws, which is good because Norse Gods are meant to be flawed, but he seemed to be presented as a wise guy who made the rights decisions and all. Basically, there was a disconnect between how I felt about him and how I felt the movie was telling me to feel about him.
Ultimately I liked the acting and I liked the effects (although did we need to see the whole bridge crossing thing every time? They could have skipped it more and added more character development instead), but I didn't care much for most of the characters or for the story.
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As far as Thor, I saw it with two other guys, and we sat in the front row and riffed on it just like Mystery Science Theater 3000 the whole time. A good portion of the riff was referencing this which is the only way I can even see Thor now. We were only loud enough for us to hear each other though. All in all, that made it one of the most fun experiences I've had in a theater, with memorable riffs such as-
((Thor begins flying))
Me: "I'm Peter Pan! WEEE!"
((first look at Asgardian armor))
Friend 1: "So, this is the first gay porn you can see in family theaters?"
((some character says "This is madness!"))
Friend 1: THIS
Me: IS
Friend 2: ASGARD!
((first look at Loki))
Me: Oh lord, not Son of the Mask AGAIN! ((begins to make for the door))
I liked it, but I liked Iron Man better.
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As for Odin's reaction, there are two things: one,
And yes, I saw the post-credit sequence. I didn't comment on it because I didn't really have anything to say about it.
Really, my problem with Odin is the discrepancy between his flaws and how I felt the movie presented him as wise and good. When you look at it, he makes lots of mistakes
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I feel like we're missing scenes here. But think about it from this point of view: You're the God of Thunder. You come from a mystical land of Asgard. And the people of Earth, science-like types that they are, don't believe a single word of this. Then you find someone who not only listens to you, but believes you. Wouldn't you feel attracted to someone who trusts you enough to believe in this 'insane' story?
Plus, Natalie freakin' Portman.
Someone else addressed this, but
And once Thor was resurrected, you think the Guardian (no, not that one) was just gonna turn around and walk away? No, he was gonna turn back and try to kill Thor all kinds of dead. So what does Thor do? Summons a whirlwind and gets the Guardian (not that one either) away from the (model) city while he beats him up. He doesn't fight him there, he gets him away from those innocents. Again, being all noble and stuff. If fighting is inevitable, do it where people won't get hurt.
But again, missing scenes! If we'd seen a brief montage of the two growing up, this could well have been fixed - plus, we'd actually get to see Loki being 'The God of Mischief', which is one of my other issues with the film.
Ok, put yourself in his shoes. Odin's basically been in a coma after telling Loki he was adopted. When he wakes up, he sees that Loki's being doing some pretty bad shit and Thor's manned up to fix it. And then Loki tells him that 'it was all for you'? That's not cool! That's not how you do things!
You also have to realise that there was no time. In Thor's case,
You're right, there's a jar between how Odin acts and how people describe him. But when it comes to his children, who do you think he should have gone with - the quiet 'trickster' who people aren't entirely comfortable having as King (see the reaction of Thor's entourage when they find out he's acting Head of State), or the cocky yet uplifting one who inspires people and whom you see promise in? That promise was always there, I think he was just hoping that being an actual leader would have made it come out. As it was, it took banishment instead, but still. But yes, the film could have made a bigger deal of Odin not being perfect.
Like I say, I feel a lot was glossed over and rushed. That's my biggest problem with this film. But then, if they'd expanded on it, it would have dragged the film out even longer, so... I dunno.
Maybe a couple of extra lines would have helped - maybe one to say that time passes slower on Asgard than it does on Midgard, so we could infer that Thor had spent more time getting to know Jane. Maybe a montage of Thor, Loki and friends growing up would have made them feel like more rounded characters and helped the entourage feel like more than extras. Maybe an extra scene at the end showing Thor and Odin talking about Odin would have cleared up a few of the growing pains you have such issues with. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Also, I think the film ended one line short. My thoughts on the missing line?
You already said that. I assume you mean before the credits. The thing is,
I totally understand your arguments, and I think the movie had room to be really good, but I felt it focused on some stuff that wasn't essential (mostly to show off cool effects, I guess) and didn't have enough in some other aspects. I enjoyed a lot of it but ultimately I was just disappointed with the way it did some things. Doesn't mean I think it sucks.
I totally understand Odin, as I said, I have less a problem with his character as I have with the way it was presented. Maybe it's just a gut feeling, but I felt like I was being told the character was one way when he acted like he was another way.
As for Loki,
Also, Loki didn't say "look what I did". He said "I could have done it". And Odin said "No." Well I'm sorry, but it seemed obvious to me that he could have. He almost did. Sure, it was a terrible thing, but telling Loki "No, you couldn't" wasn't the best answer IMHO.
Last movie I saw? hmmm Predator I think.... c'mon it's a classic. Another one of those movies with lines that are repeated ad nauseam...which is a good thing. 8. I don't think there's a point writing a long review about a modern classic.
Searching in Google I found a comment from Thor's actor about something like 20 minutes worth of deleted scenes. Supposedly extended fights, Thor and Loki interaction, and some scenes with Odin and his wife.
http://portfo.li/movies/2627357-kenneth-branagh-talks-thor-deleted-scenes-and-dvd
And thanks for sharing the info about the deleted scenes, Sunny. 20 minutes missing does not surprise me at all. I guess I'll have to wait and see if the film is any better with it or not.
Yeah, considering the circunstances and that he was, in fact, right about to do it, it was more of a "no, this isn't what you should do" than a "no, you could never do it"
My thoughts exactly. I enjoyed myself and it's definitely better than certain superhero movies (I'm looking at you 'Hulk') but I felt Iron Man was a little more polished.
Actually
6/10
This film's put me off rabbit... :x
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Oh who am I kidding! I'd eat a rabbit if someone offered me it! XD
(I''m such a glut!)
Still want to watch Thor though...
That movie is just awesome, it contains action from start to finish and the handheld camera really ads to all the chaos. There is never a dull moment, and I never stop laughing.
Jason Statham is a really cool actor, despite the fact that it took me ages before I even saw the first Transporter movie, now I just love everything he is in.
He really goes all out in Crank so I can give the movie no less than 5/5.
Ah, thanks