How did Einstein get in the Delorean?
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So, is this explained somewhere in the game? What are your thoughts?
So, is this explained somewhere in the game? What are your thoughts?
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Einstein was with Doc in the Delorean when he was 'visiting' 1931. Then Doc ran into trouble, and got put in jail - Einstein would have still be waiting for him inside the Delorean. The homing device then kicked in, which took the Delorean with Einstein inside back to Marty in 1986.
Well Einstein did leave the delorrean because if you remember, he takes Edna Stricklands shoe, which he then takes with him back to 1986.
Well, that's probably the most rational thing I've heard so far. But still frustrating. Do you guys think they might go into it in later episodes?
The auto recall in thing summoned the Delorean from its first maiden voyage, which he was in.
Uh no.
Y'know I was actually thinking that myself. Also, in the movies, it seems he taught Copernicus how to play Chess.
But still...I mean it even seems more unlikely that it's a Delorean. Those doors seem like they'd be pretty difficult to open and close for a dog (god, I feel sorta ridiculous even considering this lol). But, also, wouldn't Doc have locked the car!?
So, to sum up, Einstein would have gotten Edna's shoe, run to where the Delorean was hidden, unlocked the car, opened it somehow, and closed it all before the automatic retrieval system kicked in.
Seriously, How the Heck!?
Doc could've been out and about with Einstein the day Einstein ran off and grabbed Edna's shoe and then gone back to his car to do something or other, letting Einstein in and left Einstein in there sleeping perhaps the night he was arrested.
This is interesting. I also find it curious that they flat out make clear that Doc didn't know about Einstein getting Edna's shoe. They make it known, that Doc did not put Einstein in the car. I don't know if that just might be a humorous hint that Einstein might be smarter than the average dog, but maybe they are hinting that they'll go into it in future episodes.
When young Doc plays with Einie, you can see he is smarter than the average dog.
huh, cool. Good eye.
First of all I do believe that was a dream, representing that Marty felt that Doc was disappearing from his life. It also foreshadows what happens to Marty at the end of the episode.
But, even if it wasn't a dream, how would Einstein have gotten Edna's shoe then? So, no offense, but either way your idea doesn't make any sense.
We haven't seen the events leading up to Einstein's attack on Edna, or the Delorean going back to 1986 for the first time yet, so I'm guessing that the mystery of what happened there will be explained in the next episode.
Alright, so until further notice, I will accept that.
Actually, it still weighed as much as the fullsize car, Marty tried to lift it and couldn't even budge it. Doc had to have a forklift to move it. lol
I suspect we'll find out that reason later on... and the hint given by the Doc suggests its possible that he was instructed to, or coaxed to, by Marty or someone else travelling back to 1931 again. Or it can be something that happens in the next episode, before they travel back to 86.
Also, if Doc Brown ends up forming some partnership with Edna, I'd guess that Einstein's future is in question, since Edna hates dogs and prefers cats (as its pointed out). I'm also guessing that the dream in the beginning is some echo from a timeline that had to be created just in order to be erased, in some sort of paradox.. and that Einstein plays a big role in the story.
It can't have been Marty because he wasn't there. Time-travel in BTTF doesn't work in a loop.
Though I agree with you, there is one very suspiciously looking moment - the way the newspaper goes through the bars when Marty starts to dig - it doesn't look like it was lying there and some tremor accidentally pushed it, it looked like someone on purpose has done that. It kinda bugs me a bit (though maybe that moment in particular doesn't have much to do with Time Travel, but who would push that particular newspaper other than time travellers?)
Though, I want to point out that some loop-like stuff is possible, if we by any chance don't follow the Marty Prime, but some kind of Marty A or B. But as far as I understand we still follow Marty Prime in the game (and we will have to avoid the ex-Marty Prime in the second episode).
http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Predestination_paradox
The opening sequence was a dream. If Einstein and the DeLorean had come from the Twin Pines Mall experiment, then Edna's shoe wouldn't have been in the DeLorean and Marty would have needed plutonium to refill the DeLorean.
The reason he's arguing there's no predestination paradox in the movies is because it wouldn't make sense with the other ways in which they're making time travel work. Marty disappears whenever he changes events so he can't be born, suggesting that his actions in the past change his future. However, if he changes the past so that he's never born, he never has that future where he goes back into the past, and the past is never changed. Pre-destination paradoxes would break everything.
The only way pre-destination paradoxes could not break everything is if the person who goes back into the past is 'owned' by some different timeline, and it would be impossible to erase himself by his actions.
However, I still don't know how they could avoid it. If Marty in the past wants to send Marty in the future a message, I don't see why it couldn't work. Maybe it would cause the 'disruption of the space-time continuum' consequence Doc Brown was warning about when he suggested that the same person from two different times should never meet the other.
Predestination is an all or nothing proposition. If Marty had originally grown up with cool parents who were inspired to name him Marty by this guy they knew for a week in the 50s, and also heard stories about how Goldie Wilson and Chuck Berry were inspired by some kid, then went back to the 50s and realized he was that kid, that would be predestination (and essentially this is what happens to Marty-A, who we see at the end of BTTF going back to 1955). But, because Marty originally grows up with loser parents, and lives in a world where Goldie Wilson and Chuck Berry got their own ideas, it is not predestination that he would go back to 1955.
Yea that too. You can't really have a pre-destination paradox in any scenario where you can change your own past.