LOL, actually you can't because you're not members, most likely...
The concept of this was not to be argumentive, but it was to approach things from other perspectives, other angles, there's nothing here to argue. Yes, objective standards exist, and things like literature and art can be judged by those standards, yes a million other standards exist that you can judge art and literature by. Twilight still a good example...
And to think about it maybe when you read something you don't label it literature, maybe you could care less, you call it a book and you read it to enjoy yourself and you love it, and so in context it's immeditately disconnected from the objective standards of what quality "literature" should be, in your own perspective. If you think some one's own perspective of relaity isn't socially relevant, well then...and again, this is a social concept.
It's people who limit their selves to one little way of looking at the world, for whatever reason, wether it's academic, or professional, that I think could be challenged, apparently, to look at things a little more openly. It's conditioned, socially constructed that we stick to our personal tastes, that we stick to academic standards, that these things are so important and yet things that are so socially strucuted just mold us, control us, we're generic.
People don't think abstractly, where as brilliant artists and visionaries may.
Yes, objective standards will always exist, no one is denying that.
It's conditioned, socially constructed that any of us need to see something all the time one way. It's a deeply challenging concept for most people, I realize that now.
People are so quick to label things, to define things. Everyone wants to define something, restrict something to certain observations so that they can tone their intellect, so that they can function. Professionals function professionally. Experts function with common practice , knowledge. Where as experts who write the books often but not always come up with new ideas, abstract approaches...
People limit their selves to only a few layers. People are conditioned into rating things from socially constructed and conditioned standards where they aren't able to make creative observations, aren't able to be abstract thinkers.
Phillosphy might be a good example in itself where conditioned standards are set aside and things are more limitless and open.
It's just too easy for people to express theirselves at a efficent and intellectual level by using conditioned standards, limited observations of the world and so we stick to these things. Yes, objective standards exist and everyone can note that all day long, it's your ability and your right but there's a unmeasurable universe more of standards that exist out there than our limited academic standards/ quality, etc etc...
The mind thinks one way more or less to be honest, it's programmed to think that way by our conditioned socially constructed standards. There are other ways to see the world, I've discovered a few personally for myself but they are hard to exercise...
That's the point it's too challenging and people feel too secure and comfortable with something structured and socially disclplined, and in reality it just is a social disclpline that we choose to force onto our selves or others...
We're too lazy/incomplete to go defining our possibilities to observe things so we limit ourselves and use only certain standards, and we use these standards without hardly ever considering others, in what we say, how we react/respond to anything...
When judging the over all "quality" of a element we often fail to realize how reality has validated it, made it possible, it's worth and value...
LOL, at any rate...I might throw in the towel before I get so far that I can't make friends any more. I guess it's for the best I got no replys. Some people are on the same page, but it's like MGS2 says and it's like others say and I'm only getting deeper into it.
Soon, I wouldn't be able to function as a human being, socially...
I've lately had a thought how interesting it might be to truly know some one you're interested in. Only a few people interest me in that way but there are a few people I'd like to know better.
I've lately had a thought how interesting it might be to truly know some one you're interested in. Only a few people interest me in that way but there are a few people I'd like to know better.
Comments
http://forums.eyesonff.com/eyes-each-other/135809-conditioned-sets-standards-base-standards-should-not-exist.html
LOL, actually you can't because you're not members, most likely...
The concept of this was not to be argumentive, but it was to approach things from other perspectives, other angles, there's nothing here to argue. Yes, objective standards exist, and things like literature and art can be judged by those standards, yes a million other standards exist that you can judge art and literature by. Twilight still a good example...
And to think about it maybe when you read something you don't label it literature, maybe you could care less, you call it a book and you read it to enjoy yourself and you love it, and so in context it's immeditately disconnected from the objective standards of what quality "literature" should be, in your own perspective. If you think some one's own perspective of relaity isn't socially relevant, well then...and again, this is a social concept.
It's people who limit their selves to one little way of looking at the world, for whatever reason, wether it's academic, or professional, that I think could be challenged, apparently, to look at things a little more openly. It's conditioned, socially constructed that we stick to our personal tastes, that we stick to academic standards, that these things are so important and yet things that are so socially strucuted just mold us, control us, we're generic.
People don't think abstractly, where as brilliant artists and visionaries may.
Yes, objective standards will always exist, no one is denying that.
It's conditioned, socially constructed that any of us need to see something all the time one way. It's a deeply challenging concept for most people, I realize that now.
People are so quick to label things, to define things. Everyone wants to define something, restrict something to certain observations so that they can tone their intellect, so that they can function. Professionals function professionally. Experts function with common practice , knowledge. Where as experts who write the books often but not always come up with new ideas, abstract approaches...
People limit their selves to only a few layers. People are conditioned into rating things from socially constructed and conditioned standards where they aren't able to make creative observations, aren't able to be abstract thinkers.
Phillosphy might be a good example in itself where conditioned standards are set aside and things are more limitless and open.
It's just too easy for people to express theirselves at a efficent and intellectual level by using conditioned standards, limited observations of the world and so we stick to these things. Yes, objective standards exist and everyone can note that all day long, it's your ability and your right but there's a unmeasurable universe more of standards that exist out there than our limited academic standards/ quality, etc etc...
The mind thinks one way more or less to be honest, it's programmed to think that way by our conditioned socially constructed standards. There are other ways to see the world, I've discovered a few personally for myself but they are hard to exercise...
That's the point it's too challenging and people feel too secure and comfortable with something structured and socially disclplined, and in reality it just is a social disclpline that we choose to force onto our selves or others...
We're too lazy/incomplete to go defining our possibilities to observe things so we limit ourselves and use only certain standards, and we use these standards without hardly ever considering others, in what we say, how we react/respond to anything...
When judging the over all "quality" of a element we often fail to realize how reality has validated it, made it possible, it's worth and value...
(Spoilers for Metal Gear Solid 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUVUu4POOsA
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110201121032AAaAKs3
LOL, that video is sort of on the same page as I am right now...freaky. I never played MGS2.
Soon, I wouldn't be able to function as a human being, socially...
I've lately had a thought how interesting it might be to truly know some one you're interested in. Only a few people interest me in that way but there are a few people I'd like to know better.
Oh doodz, don't be that shy!
Okay so, my eyes are dark green...
My eye is not in the avatar.
I'm already out of my comfort zone...