Marvel movie Thor Xmen and Captain America
YouTube - X-Men: First Class - Official Trailer
I heard it was a reboot, doesn't really come off as a reboot to me as it has footage from the other movies. I'm sort of attracted to the X-men WW2 period of the franchise. So, I'm a little excited for this movie.
Captain America
YouTube - Captain America The First Avenger Official Trailer (2011 Movie)
This is sort of cool, because it's a franchise back from the time the film is inspired to take place.
Thor
YouTube - Thor - Trailer (OFFICIAL)
I'm not entirely sure of my opinions on this one, but I'm a fan of Natalie Portman and I am attracted to mythology.
I heard it was a reboot, doesn't really come off as a reboot to me as it has footage from the other movies. I'm sort of attracted to the X-men WW2 period of the franchise. So, I'm a little excited for this movie.
Captain America
YouTube - Captain America The First Avenger Official Trailer (2011 Movie)
This is sort of cool, because it's a franchise back from the time the film is inspired to take place.
Thor
YouTube - Thor - Trailer (OFFICIAL)
I'm not entirely sure of my opinions on this one, but I'm a fan of Natalie Portman and I am attracted to mythology.
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The other two movies are being made to fill in the gaps in the up-upcoming Avengers movie, and I believe Spiderman reboot also has a similar role. I wouldn't choose to be hyped by any of them since all three of these movies will most likely show the basic "birth of a superhero" storyline. Captain America's trailer looks almost TOO formulaic for a superhero movie. Thor... I never really liked Thor. Thor's comic book variation is mostly composed of throwing some mythological information just to have them there and then the rest is generally beating the crap out of his nemesis. So if I ever wanted to see Thor's movie, it wouldn't be for mythology.
With that said, I'm eager to see a trailer for Spiderman reboot by now. Maybe it'll change my view on the movie.
I also would like to comment on upcoming DC movies. I think DC started to rely on Chris Nolan too much that they expect him to make a third Batman movie and a Superman movie. Nolan aims for maximum realism in his movies so a Superman movie is really, really risky to be handled. The third Batman movie... I feel like people already know a third movie won't ever be able to top the second movie (I love The Dark Knight) and it's being made just to end the series as a trilogy. Batman villains were always comical and out of realism so Nolan did his best to keep his villains in the borderlines of reality, but it's almost too apparent that he wants to go along with whichever is the easiest for him to handle. He chose Bane since it's the least out of ordinary of all the rouge gallery of Batman (You wouldn't take Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Clayface or Manbat seriously. Maybe Penguin, Riddler or Hugo Strange would work but all are done in earlier movies -or in Strange's case, in the upcoming Arkham Asylum video game sequel), and Catwoman because fans demand it I guess. There might also be a Robin, which is ALSO pretty risky, but you wouldn't be able to call it a Batman trilogy without Robin I assume.
Also Green Lantern movie looks like utter shit.
Green Lantern's coming out this summer.
Nolan only helped with the initial story stage, Zack Snyder has the reins now and I think he's a good choice for it.
I'm looking forward to all three of Marvel's movies this year. They've all got nearly perfect casts and great directors (Johnston is the only iffy director but if his Captain America is anything like his Rocketeer film back in the day, all will be well).
It's also nice that we're getting so many superhero movies that aren't just sequels. Well, ok, technically X-Men First Class is a prequel but an X-Men movie without being saddled by Wolverine feels like a whole new movie.
I think I read somewhere that Nolan wouldn't do the film if Robin was to be put in it.
I appreciate them both. First Batman movie was amazing, second one... actually I remember it as worse than it was. It's actually pretty good until the Penguin missile assault.
Believable? I've never seen any where in my life that looks like Gotham city...
What does it matter? Why judge something by some obscure standard that you've noted is apparently far removed from the entire thing. Obviously it wasn't aiming for beliveable, your statement is near irrelevant.
You're subject set of standards aren't applicable to this, if you're going to use them as some sort of comparision or something. This movie wasn't meant to be "believable". It's a super hero movie about a Batman in a huge mega metropolis, full of crime. It's supposed to larger than life, vibrant, a edge of insanity,
The dark poser fails on all accounts, it's a poser movie...it's all I'm Dark, I'm a bad ass, listen to me grunt the whole time....
This sums it up beautifully...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc
It's FLAT, the more is Dark and nothing is believable about a man who dresses as a bat and fights a criminal named joker to begin with....it's BORING. It's not believeable...give me a break! It's far from reality....
Burton at least has some vision, style, he doesn't just get off in getting a dark approach where everything is tainted, and narrowed, and all the edges and corners are filled in with empty dark spaces....at least he had some vision and kept things exposed, lively....
Nothing Dark about it to me, it tried wayyyy wayyy too hard to be cool/ dark...
This little scene here has more character and mystery and life in it than the whole combo of the 2 nolan *BEEP* movies. Batman is a dark boy in TDK, the most boring , poser Batman EVER!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGAKYVGuPqE
Carrey was the riddler, both are just as easy and obvious a choice for a craized role...I don't see the big deal, Jack-o is only famous for his protrayle as the joker!
The axis chemical scene rides Nolan HARD CORE! The axis chemical scene is superior to ANYTHING nolan ever gave Batman. Such a more sophicated and deeper Batman, more interesting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33JK0zOtJOk&NR=1
Name one scene in any Nolan Batman movie that lives up to this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiAonyJIV_A&NR=1
NAME ONE!
I guess I did misread your post.
I want to watch Mask of the Phantasm again, it's been years.
I can honestly say that from your perspective I understand where you're coming from. From a different perspective I still enjoy the Burton movies. But you seem to be a purist which is fine, that's ok.
I don't know why I'm arguing, I guess I let emotion get to me. I still don't like Nolan's take on it, even if it does follow the origin better.
I honestly think that having a dark Batman adaptation into film for the first BIG time(It was done before 89) had some liberties but I understand that comic fans would want to see the movie stick to certain guidelines and story elements.
I still think Burton did a lot for Batman, and that his vision may not have been ideal for every one but even die hard comic fans, purists have some thing to respect and acknowledge. Though it's all perspective and what angle you're looking at it from.
I liked the feeling of the movie, to be honest I never really got that deep into my Batman comics...I have several though.
The feeling may be there but I think Burton does justice to creating a dynamic Batman, even if the soul is a bit off, for the audience I think he created a more interesting, dynamic Batman. Nolan's Batman, even if the story is similar and the "spirit" is there, it bores me...
Burton brought us the Dark Knight for our generation. He made him a interesting character in my opinion, even if it was a adaptation removed from the original "spirit" of things.
Still, I understand.
I still say that even though you might feel like the character has been adapted to a new vision that he's more dynamic, interesting than Nolan's. Not to say that the original Batman "spirit", character, wasn't interesting and dynamic.
I just get more feeling, drama, entertainment watching Burton's Batman than I do Nolan's...
LOL. but we are obviously different people, and so I guess we're running in circles.
Huh!? Nicholson has a long and storied career far beyond the Joker.
Why is everything on a forum always a argument, or a post to turn into something that expresses that person in isolation? Yes, yes, you know all about Jacky boy, good for you. That's so interesting.
All I was speaking of was his success of the Batman role, to several people that was a major role he did, not every one has seen all his other works. He nailed the role. That's not really up for debate because historically, in the media, by fans, etc etc, he was largely received by the role.
He's still famous for creating the role, I didn't mean to imply that he doesn't have many other reasons why he's famous. Seriously though, if you watch the Shining,One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest , all his other crazy movies, how is he not famous for being able to fit the shoes of the Joker and several other characters of such a absent mind? He's perfect for it all round.
... Err... what? I think you have a different definition of "argument" than the rest of the world. This is, what, the second or third time you've taken one of my posts to mean something entirely different from what they actually mean? I'm not exactly being cryptic here.
That's all you had to say. Not everything's an attack on you. I found your statement baffling, so I pointed it out in hopes that I was mistaken in how I read it.
Never woes me...
Neither does a
....Er....what?
Neither does "than what the rest of the world does"....
"This is, what, the second or third time you've taken one of my posts to mean something entirely different from what they actually mean? I'm not exactly being cryptic here. "
Do you even read what you post?....
"That's all you had to say. Not everything's an attack on you. I found your statement baffling, so I pointed it out in hopes that I was mistaken in how I read it. "
...guess not. Oh well, don't care enough to continue it.
The perfect live-action Joker that never was-
Okay, seriously now. What in the flying hell are you on about?
Shit like this is why I wonder what the point is in responding to your posts. It only results in:
A) A drawn out rant that has absolutely nothing to do with anything
Or, in exceedingly rare circumstances:
C) An actual response
Seems to me that the rare chance of C isn't worth putting up with A and B. Reason and logic is clearly lost on you, so by all means, keep assuming that I'm trying to argue with you. It honestly doesn't make a lick of difference.
There it is again! :eek::mad: You're so judgemental by nature you don't even have a clue. You're so pretentious!
He just stands there and laugh, I'm not violent by nature, and it's so stupid that has to be that stupid about things and we'd have to fight. I don't want to fight anyone, hurt anyone that I don't have to. But what can I do, some times I wonder if he's all there or not...
Whatever, I don't care, I'm just aggraviated.
How am I being judgmental or pretentious? I'm just playing your game by your rules, in an attempt to figure out what beef you have with me all of a sudden. I tried to explain that I wasn't being sarcastic or mean, simply thrown off by your wording, and you went off like I was belittling you again.
So yes, I got a little pissed. Can you blame me for that? You aren't getting where I'm coming from here, no matter which tact I use to explain it to you.
I don't have anything against you, nor do I assume to know you outside of the persona you use on this forum. While you think I'm being condescending, I can only say that I'm actually just befuddled.
ShaggE, you're attacking someone else's thought property and you don't know it. Not everything is solved with going A to B. Simple logic doesn't apply to different kinds of people. Don't repeatedly pressure him. It's inane and even through a forum thread a disturbance is easily felt. Obviously, he's trying to get away from the discussion. Let him go.
doodo, noone will think lowly of you if you just abandon a discussion after being answered by a reply that completely nullifies and disproves yours. Admit defeat. There will be some guys making fun of you about that later on these forums, yes, mainly egoistical assholes. You're not their judgement though, you're you. Just move on with it.
There is no "different kind of logic". Nothing stated here is based on culture, ethics, or individual perception. It's "did this man have an important career before Batman?" It's a simple fact, much like it was a fact that the Beatles were famous and had great success before their songs appeared on iTunes.
Mask Of The Phantasm, I still regard as being one of the best comic book adaptions of all time.
Not everything is black and white. Some are, like the bit you selected and pointed out, as it's what you always do for your arguement battles, shoving up in the ass of everyone. What he said was incorrect. He could be answered with "What you're saying is wrong, although you have valids points here and there, it's not one" or "...what the hell are you talking about". Not everyone has the same interests with you, therefore feel the need of browsing in spare times to actually get informations about them to use later. Some don't even know where to browse, but it's one of their slight likes just enough to talk about in some little forum. Correcting is the way to go, but it doesn't give anyone the rights to push over and over and make the other person regret anything he/she just said.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that I derive pleasure from this, but trust me, I'm not that petty. I actually *like* Doodo, and that's part of why I'm so dismayed that I'm coming off this negatively. It truly is not my intention.
My "What the hell are you talking about" post, in hindsight, was a bit much. Okay, I see and admit that. But the reaction to that and to my kinder replies were both perceived the same way, so I don't know what you want me to do here. I'm not argumentative by nature, so this sort of interaction is fairly alien to me.
It bears no meanings to most people around here, really. Plus, with the exceptance of some word dearrangement, I actually speak like that with my native language. When I talk about things that can't be felt by five senses I guess it's kind of inevitable, at least for me, since I'm also aware I don't have a good vocabulary of either of the languages I know.
I wasn't really accusing you of anything in particular, just I felt like doodo was trying to get away with throwing false accusations and the thread became pretty redundant afterwards. I'm no forum police but I felt for that guy. Apologizing for any discomfort.
Everything exaggeratedly written on my second post was not directed at you at all. Tagging people isn't my forte as you're aware I'm against it.
That's just mean, man. Give him a hug or something.
No problem, just a misunderstanding.
Anyhoo, we're all doing a disservice to Batman here, soooo... Batman, eh? What a guy.
I don't socially function really and so I get frustrated and when I see some one that I feel like I can see fault in, human characteristics, I some times loose my cool for some reason. It was not the actual content, it was the way it was expressed, the words that were used, those sort of things that offended me, not the actual idea, linerally speaking...
Keaton is Batman. Haters gonna hate though...