Can Telltale fix this game?

I have played the first one on the iPhone, and although it's a good adventure game, keeps to classic point and click play that was made famous all those years ago, but the language in it does make me cringe.. I've got nothing against bad language, but it seemed that in episode 1, they rely on the language way too much to boost laughs when a perfectly good, witty and playable game is already present.

I hope Telltale get to throw in some of their own formulas and turn an average game into a great one! I have every faith in them.:D
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  • edited February 2011
    This is a raunchy adventure title, of which little to none exist these days. The writing is very clever, and I found it to be more hilarious than most adventure titles, and it's not because there's cursing here and there. It's a shame to hear that you think the language detracts from the game, and that you think the creators are using it as some sort of crutch, because that's quite far from the truth. The language doesn't change the fact that the puzzles are fun, and that the jokes themselves are funnier than most of what's offered on television these days.

    Hector is a foul character in every sense of the word. Asking to clean up the character and the game itself would take away the more unique flavor the series has to offer. Telltale games will always be here to offer you a more PG experience with minor risque jokes here and there. But if you're looking for something a little more dirty, but just as over the top, I think there's a lot to enjoy here. Personally, I found this to be one of the best adventure games available on the iPlatform, and it's a unique one. Definitely worth checking out as long as your ears aren't too sensitive.
  • edited February 2011
    I hope they don't change the language in it I like hearing Hector's colourful swears.
  • edited February 2011
    I think Telltale is going to be pretty hands off when it comes to creative input.

    Besides, swearing is healthy when used infrequently because it can reduces stress.
  • edited February 2011
    Bunnyman wrote: »
    Besides, swearing is healthy when used infrequently because it can reduces stress.

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  • edited February 2011
    Telltale has nothing to do with its development besides instruction on the Telltale tool... I thought. In this respect I thought they were more like a publisher.

    Oh, and I love to swear.
  • edited February 2011
    Censorship is just not cool, bro.
  • edited March 2011
    Ballbags is one of the best swears Iv herd.
  • edited March 2011
    If there's no swears in the other two episodes, people will very probably die. Simple as that.
  • edited March 2011
    yeah, I thought the game was great as is; really can't wait for it to hit HD
  • edited March 2011
    TTG will you leave my Ballbags intact?
  • edited March 2011
    Swears are good
  • edited March 2011
    It is funny. Being from the US I am not as familiar with the swear words form the UK. Yeah, I could recognize which ones were vulgar, but I couldn't tell which ones were really bad. That being said, the language felt mild to me. I am sure if it were re-written with a US audience in mind, I would have been much more offended by it.

    As for what others have said, I agree that censorship is really not a good thing here. If people don't like the language, or themes in the game, then don't buy/play it.
  • edited March 2011
    Adult lanuage and swearing is good, maybe not in USA, but in the rest of the world it is, it would completly ruin the game with kiddy language.
  • edited March 2011
    RMJ1984 wrote: »
    Adult lanuage and swearing is good, maybe not in USA, but in the rest of the world it is, it would completly ruin the game with kiddy language.

    I think Philadelphia has a bone to pick with your statement on the USA and swear words.
  • edited March 2011
    To each their own! I don't think swearing automatically makes something funny, but if swearing is done just right, it can amplify a joke. I saw the trailer for Hector, and it looks like my kind of swearing!
  • edited March 2011
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  • edited March 2011
    ElWaster wrote: »
    I have played the first one on the iPhone, and although it's a good adventure game, keeps to classic point and click play that was made famous all those years ago, but the language in it does make me cringe.. I've got nothing against bad language, but it seemed that in episode 1, they rely on the language way too much to boost laughs when a perfectly good, witty and playable game is already present.

    I hope Telltale get to throw in some of their own formulas and turn an average game into a great one! I have every faith in them.:D

    Please don´t change the languate, the tone is perfect, guess for the average american this is a bit rough, but it sets the tone perfectly and Hector is the typical english rotten policeman. I love the toilet humor of this game as well as the rough language. It works perfectly for the game although after a while you notice the intensity only casually.
    Btw. Hector is for me the perfect successor of the LSL series.
  • edited March 2011
    Why even argue about this? Just add a censor toggle in the option screen. Everybody's happy. /thread
  • edited March 2011
    Why even argue about this? Make a game for adults and people who are offended by the content can use their own judgement and not play it because not everything in the entire universe has to be made explicitly for them, nor do we need to waste developer time and effort creating and testing a tool to force something not made for them into an acceptable territory based off an arbitrary and, frankly, idiotic set of standards lacking any contextual basis. /thread

    Oh, wait, scratch that. I'm not going to assume my thoughts on the matter are so obvious and accurate that it immediately renders everybody else's point moot by default. Let the thread continue as scheduled.
  • edited March 2011
    anglerush wrote: »
    Why even argue about this? Just add a censor toggle in the option screen. Everybody's happy. /thread

    Sounds good to me. Being that Hector from the trailer goes into a porn shop and there's some cartoon gore like head popping and perhaps other things, I think the better option would be for people to choose not to play the game if they believed it to not be for them. The art style makes me somewhat interested (and I'm bored messing around in the forums), so it's a shame that certain content will keep me from looking further into Hector.
  • edited March 2011
    I don't think bleeping it would work anyway or you would be hearing BEEP every 5 seconds
  • edited March 2011
    coolsome wrote: »
    I don't think bleeping it would work anyway or you would be hearing BEEP every 5 seconds

    Worked for Tiny Timmy in Sam & Max Season 2! :)

    I'm agreeing with the majority that there are plenty of family-friendly games out there if that's what you're looking for. This one specifically warns that it's not for kids. Don't play it if you're not into "those" kinds of games.
  • edited March 2011
    I demand a censored GTA!
  • edited March 2011
    Yeah, and a Back to the Future GTA style censored one, too.
  • edited March 2011
    Censorship does work when it's unnecessary.
  • edited March 2011
    I played through the whole game and I found the swearing to be very funny and, usually, in-context. Overall, great game, can't wait for episode 2!
  • edited March 2011
    In a console driven world, it's really great to see a game that doesn't have to mold itself into the confines of MS, Sony, and Nintendo rules to be released.
  • edited March 2011
    What rules? Its the ESRB they have to appease.
  • edited March 2011
    What rules? Its the ESRB they have to appease.

    If you had a fourth wall joke isnulting the ESRB board but it didn't have over the top swears would they be able to tell you to take it out?
  • TorTor
    edited April 2011
    What rules? Its the ESRB they have to appease.

    I think video game ratings (such as ESRB and the European equivalent PEGI) are actually voluntary in most countries. Mainstream publishers usually choose to use them though.

    The big console companies each have their own rules for what game content they allow on their platforms. Since they have complete control over their platforms, they are able to prevent games that don't follow the rules from being published. So following the content guidelines for the platform you are publishing for is actually more important than following the ESRB content guidelines.

    A couple of examples of console censorship:
    - Nintendo of America was notoriously strict back in the NES/SNES days, lots of examples here (a couple of Wii and DS games even).
    - Microsoft apparently has problems with certain types of content in Xbox Live indie games, such as nazi killing (a wholesome activity, if there ever was one) and sexual education.

    Contrast that with the PC... nobody owns the PC platform so you can publish whatever content you want for it.
  • edited April 2011
    In order to get the game on an actual store shelf or published on XBOX Live/PSN/Wii Shop Channel, a game has to be screened by the ESRB. The only exception, that I'm aware of, is for XBOX Live Indie games. Since TTG self-publishes and releases digitally, they don't go thru the ESRB process for their games. Only when the games are published by a third party, such as when Atari published Sam and Max Seasons 1 and 2 for Wii, do they finally go thru ESRB, but that is usually done by the publisher, not the developer. This is due to pretty much any retailer not wanting to sell anything that hasn't got that logo on it to avoid the headache of some moronic parent suing because they didn't understand that something like "Hector: Badge of Carnage" meant it is not for Little Timmy, the 5 year old kid that starts spewing swear words because they were in "that dirty game" and he "couldn't possibly" have learned it from anywhere else.

    So, its more of an appeasement thing than an actual regulatory thing.

    If you want me to prove it, I challenge you to go to your local retailer (Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart) and find me a computer game or video game on their shelves that does not have an ESRB rating on it somewhere. Chances are, you won't.
  • edited April 2011
    If you want me to prove it

    Lol no ones gonna think your making it up or lying and demand proof and not believe u.
  • edited April 2011
    You'd be surprised.
  • edited April 2011
    language is fine. Just add a filter of people don't like it
  • edited April 2011
    hamza721 wrote: »
    language is fine. Just add a filter of people don't like it

    What about visting the porn shop though should they cut that out incase ppl don't like it?
  • edited April 2011
    Lol theres a porn shop? Not sure how telltale will be able to handle that one
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2011
    I'd hate to see the game's nadgers cut off just so it's fine for kiddies to play. The barefaced bawdiness of it is what I find so appealing.
  • edited April 2011
    hamza721 wrote: »
    Lol theres a porn shop? Not sure how telltale will be able to handle that one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp5IxAYIUvw

    At 0.50
  • edited April 2011
    whoa
  • edited April 2011
    coolsome wrote: »
    What about visting the porn shop though should they cut that out incase ppl don't like it?

    I think Telltale has proven that they're willing to step out beyond their usual customer segment with BttF and JP by the looks of it, so keeping the game as it is, and just making sure to promote it as what it is should be enough. No need to cut anything out or censor the game. This could be their chance to reel in some of the adventure gamers who thinks their previous titles have been a bit lacking on the puzzle side.
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