Am I being closed minded, having a hard time accepting brother for his differences
My brother got me into working out. I do things natural, I take natural supplements, I work out with regularity. I build some muscle. Now, my brother always finds the fast forward button on things. Even when we were in competitive gaming, and peaked the height of our skill and potential, he had to go further and use hacks. I know I was one of the best legit players of the game. I searched out hackers and still won. But he was a good player and with his hacks he was almost invincible.
Now he's using these supplements that are banned from sports, banned from countries...and he's so into his muscles. He's always telling me to poke them.
I used to respect him from his work out routine, for his ambitions and that he was set to a goal and worked towards it. Took it seriously, had a difficult time. But he's always racing to be first and he doesn't care how he gets there.
Starting to work out was a bad idea, all I did was give him some one to try to be better than and he makes his own rules...
I got into this for me, because I wanted to make something of myself, build my body. I wanted to build character, have integrity...He's getting un-naturally larger at a un-natural rate. He's not the type to be derailed and morally crippled if he uses un-natural methods to achieve goals.
He's always telling me that I need to relax, "why so serious"..."you never had a day of fun in your life"...
I think lifting should be blood, sweat, tears, protein, not illegally banned substances and quick results.
I should have never started along side with him. I'm having a hard time accepting my brother for his differences.
He went from one quick solution to the next quickest solution, next is God knows what...Started with muscle milk, then he went to heavier still legal supplements and now he's taking this...
I feel like he's soiled the image of weight lifting.
Now he's using these supplements that are banned from sports, banned from countries...and he's so into his muscles. He's always telling me to poke them.
I used to respect him from his work out routine, for his ambitions and that he was set to a goal and worked towards it. Took it seriously, had a difficult time. But he's always racing to be first and he doesn't care how he gets there.
Starting to work out was a bad idea, all I did was give him some one to try to be better than and he makes his own rules...
I got into this for me, because I wanted to make something of myself, build my body. I wanted to build character, have integrity...He's getting un-naturally larger at a un-natural rate. He's not the type to be derailed and morally crippled if he uses un-natural methods to achieve goals.
He's always telling me that I need to relax, "why so serious"..."you never had a day of fun in your life"...
I think lifting should be blood, sweat, tears, protein, not illegally banned substances and quick results.
I should have never started along side with him. I'm having a hard time accepting my brother for his differences.
He went from one quick solution to the next quickest solution, next is God knows what...Started with muscle milk, then he went to heavier still legal supplements and now he's taking this...
I feel like he's soiled the image of weight lifting.
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Also, as I stated in another thread, sports and living for the health isn't always the sole key for happiness. Be yourself and do what you want, don't push yourself too hard and always measure one step ahead, and sometimes fiddle with problems. Now that's a happy life.
Always winning is not life. God does not live. It's the passion of overcoming things during the act of accomplishing your goal is what makes living worthwhile. He needs to understand this.
Although I never play against hackers, not even my cousin who hacks his pokemon to level up faster.
Only used Pokemon hacks to see cool game glitch stuff. GTA passwords are also pretty cool to use after finishing with the storyline.
Otherwise it's downright unentertaining.
Yeah Pokemon does glitch up quite well under hacks.
My friend who i also refuse to play against unless he uses fair pokemon one time got 100 exploration cases under his MAIL section:p
And sandbox game hacking after you have won is different.
Also those that hack to find deleted content and stuff is also completly different.
like what we did to find the abb abber in sbcg4ap, or stop n swop.
Take things at your own pace man.
I dont understand this-'I feel like he's soiled the image of weight lifting.' ?????
All the best bodybuilders in the world use gear mate.
To be honest I'm sick and tired of hearing natural bodybuilders slag off those that use gear because 'its cheating' or 'bad'. The guys that use gear are very serious about their sport and are trying to get past their natural plateau and go further. There are reasons for 'cycles', i.e to let your body get back to its natural state for a while.
These guys on gear train just as hard if not harder.
I'm pro choice. Steroids for me is a different type of drug compared to something like heroin or crack obviously.
Don't hate on your brother man. He could be doing alot worse stuff like base jumping or a lion tamer...lol.
Also:
I hate comments like this. It's stupid, provocative crap that people use only when they can't give a legitimate reason as to why you should do something completely stupid.
My associate/ friend who has been working out for 14 years says this, who was a once upon a time creatine user...
Body builders might user gear to get bigger but it's not lifting weight against your own muscles, unassisted, naturally...
Essentially you aren't building anything, you're just using supplements so that you can lift more than you'd be able to off the substances. Yeah, you'll get big and strong but you'll be bigger than you should be, and you didn't do it at your own pace...
HAHAHA own pace, these things increase your pace, my brother is a muscle head, he's built from a few weeks of work out because he's taking this gear...get real.
You're a disgrace to the sport and so are people who use these things. He's bigger now and shows it off, but what is he showing off, he did it in half the time he should have...
At your own pace my ass, you are just as misguided and delusional as all those muscle heads and "greatest" builders.
What a mockery. I don't respect that, those people haven't put in the real work to get there...they sure the hell aren't working harder than me and if they are they better look like a damn tank...
Maybe you're into that un-natural big muscle size but I'm more realistic about working out. I'm not into those huge muscle bond guys who barely look human...because they barely are, they're not natural human beings, you don't get that way working out legit. Sure the hell not even in a life time, these guys are cheaters, sorry to say. They cheat...
What's wrong with base jumping, lion taming, next to this? At least that takes some balls and not supplements that jack you up...
WTF are you on about? You sound like a whining little girl who can't match up to his brother each time because your brother finds a cleverer way to get ahead. Stop trying to be like your brother perhaps?
I think you will find its YOU who is misguided. What exactly do you know about steroids? How am I a 'disgrace' to the sport because of my opinion? You really are a judgmental twat mate.
For your in formation, and make sure this sinks into you thick skull, there are NO natural bodybuilders in the game. all the big famous dudes are on GEAR, and alot of it. Jay Cutler etc.
You think Arnold Schwarzenegger is a disgrace because he used gear? Look at how far he's come. He single handedly made bodybuilding the industry it is today. People don't want to see measly little natural bodybuilders on stage, they want to see roided up monsters. And before you say anything, steroids were perfectly legal back in Arnie's prime.
I really resent your small mindedness towards steroids. Because you really do not know jack shit about them other then the misguided media widespread crap thats fed to you.
You too are cheating you hypocrite because you use supplements!
And you are also talking out of your arse when you say bodybuilders who use gear haven't put in hard work? LMAO. You haven't a clue mate.
If you don't like the idea of steroids, fine, but dont talk bull$hit about it.
What the jack did this have to do with body buidling anyways? I'm not a body builder, nor is he...And as far as gear goes, what the hell does it have to do with competition. Who can take the stronger supplements and work out averagely and get big? I work out hard too...
How can I compare myself to my brother? I love my brother, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You think this is some sort of stupid insecure he's bigger than me insecure nonsense...it's his ignorance and pride and that annoys me. He's bragging about a body that he's gotten fast because he's doing it un-natural...
If you love it so much and I like such a girl, then why don't you compare yourself to body builders who use gear....
Heck if I care...I'm talking about my brother, and we aren't models or mr. universe candidates....what's their to be proud in.
I talk to people about this sort of thing, people who do work out and I know for a FACT that this stuff makes worker out EASIER...simple, fact....WTHeck do you think people take it to begin with you TOOL!? ITS A FACT YOU MONKEY!
It's outlawed from sports for a reason, A B C!....
You're a simpleton, you're a toy for my amusement, but that's ok...I don't want to be like my brother. I love my brother, we are two VERY VERY different people, I just have a hard time accepting what he's doing right now as he grins in pride with un natural results that he barely worked for!:mad:
Clever? You ape! It's not about clever, you think I've been out smarted !?:mad: Lifting to me is about character, about a goal, about buidling your body, it's not about being bigger and bigger you superficial eye candy pupp! It's about building your body! And that means building it not taking all the shortcuts!
Forget the guys in gear it's all about going beyond what's natural to pose as a bloody model in a competition. Even Arnold has cut back...these people are barely natural in what they're doing...
i don't care what other people do, I don't care if people are awwed by they're drug taking abilities and work out routines. I don't give a rat's behind, doesn't mean I agree with it. Just because they get attention and use drugs and put in a good days work out doesn't mean they get my darn respect!
This is about my brother...
You little tool! This western macho perspective nonsense! These people that barely look human anymore because they take these un natural supplements...who gives a flying nun? I stand on my own, I lift legit. I don't care if the majority of spectators look up to people who are not natural and separate their selves from the rest of us, who bust their rears and get tired when they get tired and work out at their own real pace....
My God, you think I care how big some one is, just because they're freaking that big you, tool!? IT's all about hard work, what you earn for yourself, it's your natural body that has been given to you, your muscles, your heart, you get as big as you can...but then taking these super supplements...I don't give a know how...I don't respect that.
You monkey...I take protein shakes! :rolleyes: That's not some sort of extrodinary aid that helps me build big ripped arms in a few bloody weeks!
Stop wasting my time...Prove me wrong , I know how hard normal guys work, and when they get on this stuff it's simply un natural, THATS A FACT live with it!
It's what the products are made for to begin with!
This is not just about size, don't you get that?...
I'm proud and secure of my size...I love my brother, his head is full of all this garbage...ego, over confidence, arrogance...he walks around showing off his muscles and when he speaks it's about his muscles or it's about his roid juice. THATS ALL he talks about anymore...
Most people don't get enough protein in their lives to begin with...it's ok to take shakes, this is something else ENTIRELY there's a clear CLEAR line drawn to separate the two.
You contradicted yourself many times in your above post lmao.
"i don't care what other people do,"........er you obviously do....lets start with your brother?
Are you really that stupid and ignorant to think that guys who take gear don't work as hard or harder??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Do you know how steroids work? No, you don't. You don't have a clue. Do you know the oral steroid most guys start off with from the top of your head, without asking anyone or googeling it? Do you know what's actually involved in a steroid cycle? NO YOU DON'T.
Heres some information for you-steroids make you work out longer and harder.
I'm not even going to continue because your above rant was such meaningless shite that I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what your deal is with your brother? Or what your overall deal is. Theres this oppressed/repressed side coming out of you. Leave him be, his business is none of your business. Unless hes killing himself keep out of his shit.
Look. you don't know anything about my relationship to my brother. It's not right for you to come into this thread and act like you have some high powered perception, and stereotype, generalize me.
I don't typically judge other people, but if you ask for my opinion I can still give it. My brother is different, he's my brother, I care about him...you set me off with a emotional rant, and so of course I contradicted my logical, proper sense of thought...This was not about body builders, I wasn't judging them, you brought all this to the table.I wouldn't have said a word about them, you made it personal...
This was about working out, and my brother and I, it wasn't about competitive body builders who get strong and ripped on purpose , and are huge from roids...We aren't in a mr.universe competition...
Why should I not care about my brother? Climb off the Freud horse. I accept my brother for who he is, that doesn't mean I'm never disappointed in him or that he does things I don't agree with.
I don't need to know anything about roids to know that they're a aid and that they are specifically designed to enhance your game, and that they are banned in several sports. The product he is taking, he told me, it's banned.
Both of us, need to have some more reservations here...you're just going at me like a child and you expect me to treat you different? I might of been a little immature, I am a little immature, but if anything I rather have a intelligent conversation from this point on...
I'm 23 years old. I've known a 12 year old to design roller coasters and he was rather wealthy . Rich kid, rode a few coasters with him at Cedar Point. A genius, 12 years old, and?
I don't care if they work hard, ESPECIALLY harder, if it's not natural then it's not their natural ability, will power moving them towards their goal. To me that's important, if you can't respect that fine, but I'm entitled to my opinion, you haven't been very mature yourself. Even had I handled this much better, you're still too fed up with people who prefer natural work outs.
Don't be pretentious...this wasn't about my problems, I'm not going to bring them up.
It seems to me that you don't have a brother.
I know, it's not as I would desire to be. Lonnie is very human, which is a good thing, but he brings out my worse side some times. I love you too lonnie...
But sometimes, I swear, we're a explosive chemistry set. I don't mean to suggest being human is a bad thing, or that I'm not human. It's very evident that I am, look at my last horrid posts...:)
I know I get preachy and I try to alienate myself from most people, but I don't intend to come off as a egotist. I just want to figure things out.
On the flip side, I'm very pleased that I didn't channel a dark side with clearer thoughts. Atleast I had some shame here and made a ass of myself. That makes it better some how. Because, I wasn't focused and concealed with a cold, concrete rage. And because everyone can see I was wrong too, and I accept that as a valid lesson for myself.
I don't hate you Lonnie. I've been a hard worker, lonnie, maybe I need to be man enough to swallow that I have too much pride. For me,it's always been, that a man should take pride in his own natural abilities, push himself to his limits and beyond and strive to be a better man. For me, taking un natural supplements just doesn't reach that mark.
It's far away from you, not to imply any particular interest/ value to that...
We're a democracy. The population has a obesity problem.
I'm a good ole college boy, but work part time to help pay for college/ expenses...
I have a western perspective upbringing in this world that I try to escape...
Does that cover all bases? What did you have in mind?
Canada?
lol.
I was just curious that's all. My birth father is American but I've never met him or any of my American family. I was raised in the UK by my English mother. Hence I consider myself English with American roots. I can even get a US passport if I wanted to, become a US cop and shoot bad guys, hell, even become the president one day. (One can only dream.)
Depends on where you are. West coast, especially down in California, has tons of earthquakes.
That's cool, is it beautiful where you live? My brother is going to be a officer of the law. You remind me of my brother.
But yeh, NZ is a very beautiful place, just look at LOTR lol. I cant beleive this earthquake has lowered the NZ dollar tho.
I was hoping to win the lotto yesterday so I could move away from this disaster zone but oh well. We are situated in a pretty safe rural town, but i work right near the city.
The guy who did my Labyrinth tattoo not long ago had his tattoo shop destroyed in the quake and a guy a year younger than me (I'm 26) who was an apprentice there got crushed to death running out.
I'm so over these tremors too! Shit start to the year for me.
also I doubt I'm gunna get my Panasonic DVX100b camera fixed as the shop that was gunna be cool and have a look at it (its not got any warranty as its old and Panasonic won't touch it) for me has probably been affected. So I've got a $2 grand camera sitting here which I was hoping to sell to upgrade to a HD camera as I was gunna make a film this year.
I've been so cared within a few seconds ,enough to faint. Some moments just drag on, and on, and on, especially when you're in the right place with just too much time to wait things out.
But, you're a tough breed, a man of the land. Don't buy that, neither would I...:p
That sort of thing sounds very frightening. It's one thing to be in a room painted black, it's another to be in some place that continuously changes.
Yeah, every one's got something, I wouldn't judge you for complaining about earth quakes. That's devastation. Disaster.
If you're inspired in something you'll be great , you'll be one of the best. Take to that music, write for your soul, sing for your soul, and I know that you'll be fantastic at what you're doing.
Thanks man.
Yeh I've had a rough couple of years like alot of poeple, with the recession and being out of work and stuck in limbo, also due to visa problems blah blah now this. Yet I still read about talentless idiots on the news making millions from force feeding their manufactured pop music or bullshit to the masses.