I'm saying the majority of music and movies have no SUBSTANCE and QUALITY.
If you want to watch some retarded movie about Facebook, be my guess. I would rather [snip] to be honest.
I can NOT listen to the radio because every DJ on there loves the sound of their own voice and I just want to listen to music (and even thats bad) not them yakking on and on about shit I could care less about.
So at least, thank [snip] for ipods. One piece of technology that has come in bloody handy.
Mainstream pop etc is not music, its audible imagery. "lets go to da clubs and drink and get tipsy and act like [snip] we are so cool".
BOOOORING and SHIT.
Everyone wants something for nothing now as well. I remember reading comments on youtube about how Black ops COD sucked and meeeh the graphics aren't good enough. Do these little dickheads realise how much time etc goes into making games etc? SCREW the graphics. I bet they cudnt handle 2 mins playing pac man or super mario.
I bet you guys who have only come up with over rated shit like Inception have NEVER EVER heard of hidden gems like the Pusher trilogy, Bleeder, the original Bad Lieutenant with Harvey Kietel.
I'm all up for some new music and movies etc but for the love of god [snip], give me something worth my god damn time please.
1) Past decades had a ton of shitty music too. Remember boy bands? Shitty rap/rock? That Eddie Murphy/Michael Jackson song, conveniently linked for your cringing convenience? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9cQOcAC_K8
2) Past decades had a ton of shitty movies too. Showgirls? Battlefield Earth? Weekend at Bernie's 2? Howard the Duck? Inception is not an awful movie even though you'd like it to be. Popularity =/= shit. How many little independent but critically acclaimed films from the 80s and 90s can you name that are well known by the general populace? I doubt it's very many. My list off the top of my head consists of "Clerks."
3) People have always been obsessed with graphics in video games. I don't know if they were U.S. only, but I remember ads in the early nineties that talked about how great the Sega Genesis' graphics were, so much better then the Super Nintendo, because the Genesis had some made up nonsense technology called BLAST PROCESSING. (sounds extreme right?) I also remember everyone poopin' their pants over the graphics in Star Fox and Donkey Kong Country. There's a reason Super Mario Bros. 3 looks a lot better then Super Mario Bros., and that's because people always cared about this.
Relevant Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQRcinZYH8&feature=related
Anyway, I'm going to go rent The Social Network. It won best picture at the Golden Globes and was nominated for it at the Oscars. I'd invite you to come check it out, but I'm all out of pig piss.
Oh, so you're basically viewing the world stubbornly through nostalgia goggles, Lonnie. I'd recommend the Good O'l Days episode of Bullshit. Otherwise I have nothing else to say to you
You're getting old. You idealize the past, something every generation does. Your grandparents would think your music sucks. It's a known psychological phenomenon, so old that the Biblical book of Ecclesiastes mentions it.
I recommend everybody watch Benzaie's videos Gaming In The 90s Sucked and Gaming In The 90s REALLY SUCKED. Simply put, there has always been bad stuff. We're at more of an advantage now, in that we have access to ALL OF IT.
Oh, so you're basically viewing the world stubbornly through nostalgia goggles, Lonnie. I'd recommend the Good O'l Days episode of Bullshit. Otherwise I have nothing else to say to you
I'm saying the majority of music and movies have no SUBSTANCE and QUALITY.
Fair enough. There hasn't really been any really notable music created in the last decade. Sadly the music scene in the US and England to some extent is moving towards the Japanese model of recycling new pop stars every few months, just at a slower, more torturous pace.
If you want to watch some retarded movie about Facebook, be my guess. I would rather drink pig piss to be honest.
Actually, it was a surprisingly good movie.
I can NOT listen to the radio because every DJ on there loves the sound of their own voice and I just want to listen to music (and even thats bad) not them yakking on and on about shit I could care less about.
Just got to find the right station. And this has *always* been the case with radio btw.
There are a lot of things that are worth your time. You just have to stop complaining, get off your ass and find them. Or do something worthwhile yourself.
If you want to watch some retarded movie about Facebook, be my guess. I would rather drink pig piss to be honest.
I bet you guys who have only come up with over rated shit like Inception have NEVER EVER heard of hidden gems like the Pusher trilogy, Bleeder, the original Bad Lieutenant with Harvey Kietel.
I'm all up for some new music and movies etc but for the love of god (actually satan), give me something worth my god damn time please.
Have you seen The Social Network? It's more a movie about the trials and tribulations of setting up a new business than it is about tagging photos and liking posts (in that it's nothing to do with the latter). On that note, have you seen Inception? I'll assume you have since you call it over rated. Out of interest, what didn't you like about it?
Are you just being contrarian for the sake of it? You claim to be "up for some new movies", but your opening line completely contradicts that. Please don't assume you're somehow more cultured than everyone else on the planet. Unsurprisingly, a lot of popular things are good.
Nah, I just personally think you're not looking hard enough and I get the feeling that you don't even want to. Such is the case with you simply dismissing The Social Network on a shallow assumption.
You know? I never watched that film. I'm personally disinterested in seeing it. In fact, I'm very picky with my media in general. However, I acknowledge the following notions:
a) It's not for me.
b) For every gem there is within the scope of media, there is 10 right in front of it that is terrible.
c) Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's bad.
d) Just because it's obscure, doesn't mean it doesn't exist nor necessarily good.
And finally:
e) Change is inevitable. This doesn't mean things have gone bad. This simply means we have changed.
And we have been changing constantly in the western world since the Renaissance.
You have every notion to not prefer anything you dislike. To say it's due to the loss of the soul is just not looking at the whole picture. And since you don't seem to want to change your status, that's why I didn't feel a need to try to go any further.
Fair enough. There hasn't really been any really notable music created in the last decade. Sadly the music scene in the US and England to some extent is moving towards the Japanese model of recycling new pop stars every few months, just at a slower, more torturous pace.
Actually, it was a surprisingly good movie.
Just got to find the right station. And this has *always* been the case with radio btw.
There are a lot of things that are worth your time. You just have to stop complaining, get off your ass and find them. Or do something worthwhile yourself.
I do do alot of things worth my time, like boxing, running, swimming, bodybuilding, film making. I was talking about music and movies.
Have you seen The Social Network? It's more a movie about the trials and tribulations of setting up a new business than it is about tagging photos and liking posts (in that it's nothing to do with the latter). On that note, have you seen Inception? I'll assume you have since you call it over rated. Out of interest, what didn't you like about it?
Are you just being contrarian for the sake of it? You claim to be "up for some new movies", but your opening line completely contradicts that. Please don't assume you're somehow more cultured than everyone else on the planet. Unsurprisingly, a lot of popular things are good.
I have no interest in The Social Network, therefore I will have a bias opinion.
I see this is turning into Lonnie VS all the clones. Cool. Exactly my point.
Nah, I just personally think you're not looking hard enough and I get the feeling that you don't even want to. Such is the case with you simply dismissing The Social Network on a shallow assumption.
You know? I never watched that film. I'm personally disinterested in seeing it. In fact, I'm very picky with my media in general. However, I acknowledge the following notions:
a) It's not for me.
b) For every gem there is within the scope of media, there is 10 right in front of it that is terrible.
c) Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's bad.
d) Just because it's obscure, doesn't mean it doesn't exist nor necessarily good.
And finally:
e) Change is inevitable. This doesn't mean things have gone bad. This simply means we have changed.
And we have been changing constantly in the western world since the Renaissance.
You have every notion to not prefer anything you dislike. To say it's due to the loss of the soul is just not looking at the whole picture. And since you don't seem to want to change your status, that's why I didn't feel a need to try to go any further.
I don't push away change, thats not it at all. I prefer being the age I am now more than I was a teenager and child because I have full control of my life.
Oh I do look hard enough, I've found alot of cool stuff you will just never hear the regular people talking about it because they are ignorant to its existence.
Those sheeple are, like, slaves to the system, man...
Maybe it's not so much us being "clones", as it is us pointing out a truth you refuse to acknowledge because it invalidates your stance that everything modern is bad (except for the underground that apparently only you are liberated enough to know about).
The problem is that people are always talking about the Good old days. Movies used to be better back in the good old days. Music used to be better back in the good old days. But if you were to travel back in time to the considered "Good old days" you'll find that the people of that time are also talking about the good old days. It just keeps on going back and back.
I think what's happening is that we've already got an eye and ear full of music and movies so that the new stuff just comes off as bland or uninspired. When if fact, people who are younger now like the new stuff and will continue to like the new stuff untill they become old stuff and they start talking about the good old days....
Oh I do look hard enough, I've found alot of cool stuff you will just never hear the regular people talking about it because they are ignorant to its existence.
Then why not share that stuff (like in the Rate The Last Movie(s) You Watched thread) instead of looking down on the ignorant "regular people" who haven't discovered your particular favourites?
I think a lot of people that call "regular" people ignorant are just so insecure of themselves and try to hide that by putting themselves above the rest. Just my two cents...
I am the ultimate loser in life. I dont see myself as above anyone else but I seem to have a problem connecting with most people as I find most people on this same wave length that I cant relate to. I feel totally lost in my life.
I'm just being as honest as I can here/ Maybe I have a problem, but I'm only telling you how I feel.
Eh.....bollocks. I'm trying hard not to sound emo as I sure as hell am not one.
My brain is my own worst enemy. Or is it myself? same thing?
Movies were good back when Grease was around.
Music was good when Bananarama were in the charts.
Games were good back when Centipede was in arcades.
No.
Movies and music and games have always sucked. You just need to be selective and find the good ones.
Exactly. The only difference is that the bad ones (Centipede) go away, and the good ones (Pac-Man) endure. Everything that sucks right now just hasn't had its chance to fade away yet.
I'm saying the majority of music and movies have no SUBSTANCE and QUALITY.
If you want to watch some retarded movie about Facebook, be my guess. I would rather [snip] to be honest.
I can NOT listen to the radio because every DJ on there loves the sound of their own voice and I just want to listen to music (and even thats bad) not them yakking on and on about shit I could care less about.
So at least, thank [snip] for ipods. One piece of technology that has come in bloody handy.
Mainstream pop etc is not music, its audible imagery. "lets go to da clubs and drink and get tipsy and act like [snip] we are so cool".
BOOOORING and SHIT.
Everyone wants something for nothing now as well. I remember reading comments on youtube about how Black ops COD sucked and meeeh the graphics aren't good enough. Do these little dickheads realise how much time etc goes into making games etc? SCREW the graphics. I bet they cudnt handle 2 mins playing pac man or super mario.
I bet you guys who have only come up with over rated shit like Inception have NEVER EVER heard of hidden gems like the Pusher trilogy, Bleeder, the original Bad Lieutenant with Harvey Kietel.
I'm all up for some new music and movies etc but for the love of god [snip], give me something worth my god damn time please.
Time to chime in.
We still have a lot of balance. I don't even think the shit-to-gold ratio has taken a nose dive in the last decades. It wasn't the millenium when movie-, music-, book- or gamemakers decided "Hey, great idea guys: Less quality/soul/art, more money, eh? Who's with me?". But with the internet, I find it far, far easier than in my younger days to listen to music before I buy, evaluate a book or game or movie before I spend money on it. Of course, I won't praise the Net as the best thing ever. It has massive downsides. It's Pandora's box, so take the good and try to stay away from the bad as much as possible.
I won't go into internet communication and say that it's "shallow". That's a completely different discussion. I like my privacy, that's why I don't go spreading my real name, location or pictures in the forums, but I still love discussing with new people, and I can hardly find that shallow.
I might begin to list great music, movies, games etc. that were done in the last years, but it all comes down to individual taste. I don't think listing individual favourites serves this thread right... there are other threads dealing with that.
...and when you're praising Harvey Keitel, would you spell his name correctly? Sorry for that.
I've only read the opening post but I wanted to make one comment regarding that - there's at least one thing I happen to agree with - life has certainly lost a bit of the feeling of mystery and discovery... the way the world has become so small, everyone already seems to know "everything" and things seem somewhat less new and less exciting than before.
I'm certainly not saying our huge leaps in technology is a bad thing overall just because of that, though... but if anything, that is maybe one of the less fortunate aspects of it (though impossible to imagine how it could be avoided).
However, the advantages we've gained far outweigh these 'negatives' in my opinion... just having internet alone is such a wonderful thing in my opinion that the consequences would have to be extremely negative for me to think this was something negative overall.
We still have a lot of balance. I don't even think the shit-to-gold ratio has taken a nose dive in the last decades. It wasn't the millenium when movie-, music-, book- or gamemakers decided "Hey, great idea guys: Less quality/soul/art, more money, eh? Who's with me?". But with the internet, I find it far, far easier than in my younger days to listen to music before I buy, evaluate a book or game or movie before I spend money on it. Of course, I won't praise the Net as the best thing ever. It has massive downsides. It's Pandora's box, so take the good and try to stay away from the bad as much as possible.
I won't go into internet communication and say that it's "shallow". That's a completely different discussion. I like my privacy, that's why I don't go spreading my real name, location or pictures in the forums, but I still love discussing with new people, and I can hardly find that shallow.
I might begin to list great music, movies, games etc. that were done in the last years, but it all comes down to individual taste. I don't think listing individual favourites serves this thread right... there are other threads dealing with that.
...and when you're praising Harvey Keitel, would you spell his name correctly? Sorry for that.
Damn, I always spell it wrong, just like I misspell their wrong at times.
Was there a real difference between Centipede & Millipede? I remember having both for the Game Boy... because I owned shit games
At least you had a game boy!!!! I would literally call over at my friends house when I was 7 just to play on his game boy (what a good friend I was lol) because my stepfather wouldn't let me buy one with money I'd saved up.
I also remember being obsessed with the first Nintendo console that came out in 89 I think it was. Before that I had an Atari and was bored crapless of it.
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If you want to watch some retarded movie about Facebook, be my guess. I would rather [snip] to be honest.
I can NOT listen to the radio because every DJ on there loves the sound of their own voice and I just want to listen to music (and even thats bad) not them yakking on and on about shit I could care less about.
So at least, thank [snip] for ipods. One piece of technology that has come in bloody handy.
Mainstream pop etc is not music, its audible imagery. "lets go to da clubs and drink and get tipsy and act like [snip] we are so cool".
BOOOORING and SHIT.
Everyone wants something for nothing now as well. I remember reading comments on youtube about how Black ops COD sucked and meeeh the graphics aren't good enough. Do these little dickheads realise how much time etc goes into making games etc? SCREW the graphics. I bet they cudnt handle 2 mins playing pac man or super mario.
I bet you guys who have only come up with over rated shit like Inception have NEVER EVER heard of hidden gems like the Pusher trilogy, Bleeder, the original Bad Lieutenant with Harvey Kietel.
I'm all up for some new music and movies etc but for the love of god [snip], give me something worth my god damn time please.
2) Past decades had a ton of shitty movies too. Showgirls? Battlefield Earth? Weekend at Bernie's 2? Howard the Duck? Inception is not an awful movie even though you'd like it to be. Popularity =/= shit. How many little independent but critically acclaimed films from the 80s and 90s can you name that are well known by the general populace? I doubt it's very many. My list off the top of my head consists of "Clerks."
3) People have always been obsessed with graphics in video games. I don't know if they were U.S. only, but I remember ads in the early nineties that talked about how great the Sega Genesis' graphics were, so much better then the Super Nintendo, because the Genesis had some made up nonsense technology called BLAST PROCESSING. (sounds extreme right?) I also remember everyone poopin' their pants over the graphics in Star Fox and Donkey Kong Country. There's a reason Super Mario Bros. 3 looks a lot better then Super Mario Bros., and that's because people always cared about this.
Relevant Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQRcinZYH8&feature=related
Anyway, I'm going to go rent The Social Network. It won best picture at the Golden Globes and was nominated for it at the Oscars. I'd invite you to come check it out, but I'm all out of pig piss.
Absolutely nothing mentioned here is new to the post-2000 pop culture world.
You sound easily amused. Good for you.
There are a lot of things that are worth your time. You just have to stop complaining, get off your ass and find them. Or do something worthwhile yourself.
Here, don't be a prick man. If you can't handle a bit of back and forth then don't start topics
Have you seen The Social Network? It's more a movie about the trials and tribulations of setting up a new business than it is about tagging photos and liking posts (in that it's nothing to do with the latter). On that note, have you seen Inception? I'll assume you have since you call it over rated. Out of interest, what didn't you like about it?
Are you just being contrarian for the sake of it? You claim to be "up for some new movies", but your opening line completely contradicts that. Please don't assume you're somehow more cultured than everyone else on the planet. Unsurprisingly, a lot of popular things are good.
Nah, I just personally think you're not looking hard enough and I get the feeling that you don't even want to. Such is the case with you simply dismissing The Social Network on a shallow assumption.
You know? I never watched that film. I'm personally disinterested in seeing it. In fact, I'm very picky with my media in general. However, I acknowledge the following notions:
a) It's not for me.
b) For every gem there is within the scope of media, there is 10 right in front of it that is terrible.
c) Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's bad.
d) Just because it's obscure, doesn't mean it doesn't exist nor necessarily good.
And finally:
e) Change is inevitable. This doesn't mean things have gone bad. This simply means we have changed.
And we have been changing constantly in the western world since the Renaissance.
You have every notion to not prefer anything you dislike. To say it's due to the loss of the soul is just not looking at the whole picture. And since you don't seem to want to change your status, that's why I didn't feel a need to try to go any further.
He loved big brother.
Post 2,160, TomPravetz still useless
*looks at shoes* Nope. I still have my soles.
(more cheap jokes)
BLOW me. No seriously, if you're going to start calling me names I will just think less of you dude. No need for that.
I do do alot of things worth my time, like boxing, running, swimming, bodybuilding, film making. I was talking about music and movies.
I have no interest in The Social Network, therefore I will have a bias opinion.
I see this is turning into Lonnie VS all the clones. Cool. Exactly my point.
I don't push away change, thats not it at all. I prefer being the age I am now more than I was a teenager and child because I have full control of my life.
Oh I do look hard enough, I've found alot of cool stuff you will just never hear the regular people talking about it because they are ignorant to its existence.
Feeling paranoid?
Maybe it's not so much us being "clones", as it is us pointing out a truth you refuse to acknowledge because it invalidates your stance that everything modern is bad (except for the underground that apparently only you are liberated enough to know about).
I think what's happening is that we've already got an eye and ear full of music and movies so that the new stuff just comes off as bland or uninspired. When if fact, people who are younger now like the new stuff and will continue to like the new stuff untill they become old stuff and they start talking about the good old days....
did that make sense? lol
Ecclesiastes 7:10
I spit my drink all over myself.
I mean I'm glad I made you spit up XD
Then why not share that stuff (like in the Rate The Last Movie(s) You Watched thread) instead of looking down on the ignorant "regular people" who haven't discovered your particular favourites?
At least you're not putting yourself above them.
I am way deeper then reguar people because unlike them I don't confrom to there happy disney channel lifestyle.
I think the other message he read off the teleprompter is more appropriate.
No name calling intended fella, i'm just a bit of a blunt speaker.
Anyway everything doesn't suck nowadays, however for great irony on the matter check out the Kaiser Chief's aptly named Everything is Average Nowadays
The band's not terrible but that song is throwing rocks in its own glass house
I am the ultimate loser in life. I dont see myself as above anyone else but I seem to have a problem connecting with most people as I find most people on this same wave length that I cant relate to. I feel totally lost in my life.
I'm just being as honest as I can here/ Maybe I have a problem, but I'm only telling you how I feel.
Eh.....bollocks. I'm trying hard not to sound emo as I sure as hell am not one.
My brain is my own worst enemy. Or is it myself? same thing?
Music was good when Bananarama were in the charts.
Games were good back when Centipede was in arcades.
No.
Movies and music and games have always sucked. You just need to be selective and find the good ones.
Exactly. The only difference is that the bad ones (Centipede) go away, and the good ones (Pac-Man) endure. Everything that sucks right now just hasn't had its chance to fade away yet.
Time to chime in.
We still have a lot of balance. I don't even think the shit-to-gold ratio has taken a nose dive in the last decades. It wasn't the millenium when movie-, music-, book- or gamemakers decided "Hey, great idea guys: Less quality/soul/art, more money, eh? Who's with me?". But with the internet, I find it far, far easier than in my younger days to listen to music before I buy, evaluate a book or game or movie before I spend money on it. Of course, I won't praise the Net as the best thing ever. It has massive downsides. It's Pandora's box, so take the good and try to stay away from the bad as much as possible.
I won't go into internet communication and say that it's "shallow". That's a completely different discussion. I like my privacy, that's why I don't go spreading my real name, location or pictures in the forums, but I still love discussing with new people, and I can hardly find that shallow.
I might begin to list great music, movies, games etc. that were done in the last years, but it all comes down to individual taste. I don't think listing individual favourites serves this thread right... there are other threads dealing with that.
...and when you're praising Harvey Keitel, would you spell his name correctly? Sorry for that.
I'm certainly not saying our huge leaps in technology is a bad thing overall just because of that, though... but if anything, that is maybe one of the less fortunate aspects of it (though impossible to imagine how it could be avoided).
However, the advantages we've gained far outweigh these 'negatives' in my opinion... just having internet alone is such a wonderful thing in my opinion that the consequences would have to be extremely negative for me to think this was something negative overall.
Damn, I always spell it wrong, just like I misspell their wrong at times.
At least you had a game boy!!!! I would literally call over at my friends house when I was 7 just to play on his game boy (what a good friend I was lol) because my stepfather wouldn't let me buy one with money I'd saved up.
I also remember being obsessed with the first Nintendo console that came out in 89 I think it was. Before that I had an Atari and was bored crapless of it.