Filming a New Project

edited December 2011 in General Chat
Hi everybody!

I'm seriously thinking of starting a new series, oriented towards a more TV-ish type of show (30-45 minutes = 1 episode). What genre would you be interested in seeing?

I'm talking from a serious, 100% original-idea, point of view. Aiming at good acting here, not tributes or parodies

Action/Adventure (Indiana Jones, National Treasure, Lethal Weapon, Speed etc.)

Sci Fi
(Doctor Who, Star Trek, The Matrix, Blade Runner, Brazil, Men in Black etc.)

Drama (What dreams may come, E.R., American Beauty, Good Will Hunting, Leaving Las Vegas, The Graduate, Philadelphia etc.)

Thriller/Horror (The Silence of the Lambs, Memento, Scream, Jaws etc.)

Murder/Mystery (Sherlock Holmes, Poirot, Murder She Wrote etc.)

Family Film (oriented towards kids) (Shrek, Flipper, It’s a Wonderful Life, Mary Poppins etc.)

Comedy (Ghostbusters, Pretty Woman, Young Frankenstein, Little Miss Sunshine etc etc.)

Musical
(Sound of Music, Sweeney Todd, Disney Movies etc.)

I'm not touching Fantasy from now on for a looong time. I've had it with pointy ears and letting my beard grow for 2 months!

You can choose one of the above and explain your choice in a post. Also, I am allowing for multiple choices due to the fact that some movies are between comedy and sci fi...or thriller and adventure...you get the point.

In the poll I will "split" Action/Adventure, just to see which one would you prefer more... Like and action oriented comedy...or an adventure oriented Family Film... bla bla, start voting!

I'd really like to know your opinion. This will not affect the "Ask a Monkeyologist" series or "Sea For Two". Those are just hard to make and take a whole lot of time. Really!
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  • edited April 2011
    Horror. I think it would be an interesting departure for you and I'm interested in what you would do with it.
  • edited April 2011
    Going to say horror too!
  • edited April 2011
    *snip*
  • edited April 2011
    Horror! It would be a great opportunity for you to write some impressionistic music.
  • edited April 2011
    I'd love to see an epic sci-fi comedy drama (or dramedy, if you will) from you. Unless I'm forgetting something, you haven't done much or any sci-fi stuff in the past, and it'd be interesting to see what you could do with the genre. Plus, we already know you're excellent at comedy, so I'd like to see you mix the comedy with some drama as well.

    Horror would certainly be interesting, but I've never enjoyed it much, so I can't honestly suggest it. :/
  • edited April 2011
    don't do another comedy. Breach out. Make a cool sci fi mystery series
  • edited April 2011
    Early results indicate you should make a complex science fiction horror film with an outrageously hilarious script about a Space Detective.
  • edited April 2011
    I said SciFi, Adventure, and Comedy. By this I mean a Scifi Adventure Comedy.

    I'm just a fan of SciFi comedies really.
  • edited April 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    Early results indicate you should make a complex science fiction horror film with an outrageously hilarious script about a Space Detective.

    I would pay to see this.
  • edited April 2011
    Ghost Busters, or Doctor Who
  • edited April 2011
    Obviously, since no one has said family film, you'll need to make this a hard R/NC17 series. However, since you've said Other/Challenge Me, I'm also going to throw this idea out there.

    Do a spaghetti western. Seriously. Do a fricking spaghetti western. Maybe even with sci-fi/horror elements, I dunno. There, I've been original. In fact I CHALLENGE you to do this. If you don't do it, you're just a long-haired European male Monkey Island fan who hasn't made a spaghetti western. Truly, a pitiable and dishonorable thing to be.

    I'll beg if I have to.
  • edited April 2011
    I chose options 4 & 5 because I think a comedy murder mystery from you guys could be pretty great.
  • edited April 2011
    Hayden wrote: »
    I chose options 4 & 5 because I think a comedy murder mystery from you guys could be pretty great.

    They sorta did that with Inspector Plustard, but it wasn't much of a series, so it'd be pretty interesting to see them expand on the basic concept.
  • edited April 2011
    Comedy musical!

    (Because Life needs more Comedy musicals)
  • edited April 2011
    Hey guys!

    Thanks for the feedback. Hmm...it seems like most of you would like something Sci Fi-ish with a big dose of comedy and a pinch of Murder/Mystery. Intriguing...

    What kind of Sci Fi would you like to see? Dodoo mentioned Doctor Who... would you like to see something like that, with space/time travel? Or what?

    Or Ghost Busters style, set on Earth and things go berserk?
  • edited April 2011
    Hey guys!

    Thanks for the feedback. Hmm...it seems like most of you would like something Sci Fi-ish with a big dose of comedy and a pinch of Murder/Mystery. Intriguing...

    What kind of Sci Fi would you like to see? Dodoo mentioned Doctor Who... would you like to see something like that, with space/time travel? Or what?

    Or Ghost Busters style, set on Earth and things go berserk?

    Alright, so take a Star Trek-style concept, and write it as if it were written by Agatha Christie and Groucho Marx. Make it happen.
  • edited April 2011
    I just figured that with Ghost Busters III coming out, it would be cool and worth while to see some more decent fan films round the corner.

    Anyone see Freddy VS the ghost busters? Great stuff.

    As for Doctor Who, Well the character has comical under tones and comical wit, good for your type of characters. You could make a pretty worth while doctor who spoof. I felt that way anyways.
  • edited April 2011
    Hm, true... I am aiming, however, on something 100% original.

    I love Doctor Who, it's brilliant and I saw much love for the series on the forums here.

    As for a Star Trek-style concept, and write it as if it were written by Agatha Christie and Groucho Marx... my mind would probably implode. But well worth it :D

    Since we're on the subject, what kind of characters would you HATE to see?

    For example, I never liked the "Weak female in distress who always must be saved and always is". What about you?
  • edited April 2011
    Where can I see what you've already done?
  • edited April 2011
    Scnew wrote:
    Where can I see what you've already done?
    His sig used to be full of links ... oh ... hey! Congrats on your web-site Andrei!
  • edited April 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    Where can I see what you've already done?

    So far? Ummm... I dunno, check my youtube channel.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/silverwolfpet

    Also, very very soon I will upload original stuff on my site. I'm trying to ditch youtube step-by-step.

    If you want to see specific stuff (Monkey Island tributes, I Wonder What Happens and other awesome collaborations) send me a PM. I've got an entire list :p

    Thanks Jon NA! (formely known as Milkman08). I hope to update the design with original graphics soon-ish.
  • edited April 2011
    Rather Dashing voted here. That counts as a post, right? Can we say he's back?
  • edited April 2011
    Rather Dashing voted here. That counts as a post, right? Can we say he's back?

    Definitely. It's activity on the forums, after all.
  • edited April 2011
    Okay, so nobody said anything about characters...

    Then just tell me what would you love/hate to see in the new series. :)
  • edited April 2011
    I would love to see Board Games play a role somehow.

    I would hate to see Talking Fruit.
  • edited April 2011
    Board Games...okaaaay...and no talking fruit... got it...what else?
  • edited April 2011
    Board Games...okaaaay...and no talking fruit... got it...what else?

    I'm trying to be both helpful and not helpful at the sametime, but I believe I'm failing at it.

    Okay, something actually logical: minimal Green Screen. One thing I hate about 90% of Star Trek fan series (yes I'm lame enough to watch some) is that it's literally just people in front of a green screen. Yes, it's cheap, but if there's one thing Doctor Who taught me it's that every planet can look like Quarrys in England.
  • edited April 2011
    I would hate to see some fricking comedy in the new series. Screw you poll. Screw you.

    I would love to see the supernatural play a role somehow.
  • edited April 2011
    Are you planning to make money on this? What's your budget? This is only important because sci-fi needs to have the cool special effects. Otherwise, it's just a guy with antennae stuck on his head, a guy in a monkey suit, and a guy in a vacuum cleaner trying to have the same storyline that they could have had without those props if it weren't a sci-fi series.

    When you're planning for it to be a series, that seems to hint "mystery" to me, where the characters start out seeing odd things that just don't seem to make sense, and it slowly starts tying itself together over the course of the episodes, until it finally explodes in the end.

    For characters, the ones you want to avoid are the ones you can imagine the audience rooting to die soon. Don't write in anyone extremely stupid, anyone cast just to appeal to 3-year-olds, or anyone generally annoying. In a series, you also have time for character development, so avoid one-dimensional characters. No one is 100% evil, or 100% good.
  • edited April 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    I'm trying to be both helpful and not helpful at the sametime, but I believe I'm failing at it.

    Nah, it's cool! Everybody is helpful as long as you do tell me what you want. I know what you referenced and I can guarantee you that I don't have that type of humor.

    Annoying people for laughs is not my thing :)
    Okay, something actually logical: minimal Green Screen.

    Check!
    On the LOTR Parody, about 85% of the movie is greenscreen. I had my fun with it, but I'd really like to go back to "on location" filming. Moreover, that movie was fantasy, this series will tend to present itself as a real possibility.
    One thing I hate about 90% of Star Trek fan series (yes I'm lame enough to watch some) is that it's literally just people in front of a green screen.

    That's true, but if you put that aside, the stories are incredible and the characters are so real you feel what they are going through.
    Overall, it doesn't really matter if you use greenscreen or not, as long as your main goal is to tell a good story with special/memorable characters.

    Tim Burton's Alice had beautiful visuals. The story was crap, way below his level. That movie had about 99% greenscreen shots.

    Then you have Nightmare before Christmas made with DOLLS and greenscreen. Isn't that a masterpiece? Well, for me it is. I still humm the songs.
    Yes, it's cheap, but if there's one thing Doctor Who taught me it's that every planet can look like Quarrys in England.

    Haha, Majus convinced me to watch Doctor Who and I'm glad and grateful he did. I'm up to date now, waiting for season 6.
    Even so...Doctor Who "falls" into the other pit...where you have characters and/or monsters with no special effects, just make-up and latex. some of them are really bad, for such a successful show. (For example, the Rhyno-Police).

    It really depends on the mood, but I prefer to leave the means on second place, as I'm focusing more on story, feeling, characters and atmosphere.

    If I can get you scared by using a purple towel, who cares it's not CG? you got scared, that's the idea. :)
    I would hate to see some fricking comedy in the new series. Screw you poll. Screw you.

    Haha! I got it, I got it. People like to laugh, that's why we have Kauff, Gustav and other funny clips. This one will be serious, I promise.

    Well, we will throw in a joke or two here and there... but I would like it to be more serious than Doctor Who.
    I would love to see the supernatural play a role somehow.

    I see... hm... I would rather go for the supernatural than space ships and time travel.
    WarpSpeed wrote: »
    Are you planning to make money on this?

    If I would start any project on this basis, I would end up a nobody or George Lucas. I don't want either.
    What's your budget?

    I've got a brain. When one has a brain, one needs no budget.
    Okay okay, I'm exaggerating a bit... I've got half a brain, so I'd need a bit of a budget here and there.

    I've got a camera, I've got a crew, I've got ways to make things that I need. I don't just buy props from eBay, unless extremely necessary.

    What I DO need is/are locations! I really want to find the best places around my city to film. I haven't done that in a long time and I miss scouting. Talking to the police, talking to the location's owner...ah, good times :D

    I don't plan a budget, unless I know exactly what I need to film. If I need a guy in a green sweater, I find a friend and I ask him to get a green sweater.

    If I need an Alien Costume... that's a bit more difficult. So, to answer your question (finally), I have no planned budget right now.
    This is only important because sci-fi needs to have the cool special effects.

    I'm good with effects... and it also depends on the effects themselves. I kind of passed that moment in my life where adding color filters to my shots "makes them more interesting!" :p

    Besides, you don't need a budget to add effects in post-production. I already have the necessary equipment should I need physical/technical stuff.
    Otherwise, it's just a guy with antennae stuck on his head, a guy in a monkey suit, and a guy in a vacuum cleaner trying to have the same storyline that they could have had without those props if it weren't a sci-fi series.

    Well, let's hope I don't go for THAT story! Haha! I know what you mean and I appreciate the concern.
    ...but I bet I can make those guys you described look really cool if I use some of my tricks ;)

    However, I'd still rather go with paranormal stuff.
    When you're planning for it to be a series, that seems to hint "mystery" to me, where the characters start out seeing odd things that just don't seem to make sense, and it slowly starts tying itself together over the course of the episodes, until it finally explodes in the end.

    Yes, that would be the modern typical recipe, wouldn't it?
    Hm, I think I can come up with something better and less predictable.
    For characters, the ones you want to avoid are the ones you can imagine the audience rooting to die soon.

    Hmm, I understand what you mean... but taking it a little further, a "hated" character has a LOT of potential. It all depends on how you use him. :)
    Don't write in anyone extremely stupid, anyone cast just to appeal to 3-year-olds, or anyone generally annoying.

    I don't tend to. I dislike that type of character since he distracts you from the general story... but I can see potential even in such a role.
    In a series, you also have time for character development, so avoid one-dimensional characters. No one is 100% evil, or 100% good.

    Ah yes, well, that is one of my main reasons for tackling a series. I've played characters which you can see on the screen for two hours and then goodbye!

    I really want to learn how to develop a character, see if I'm good at it. Kauff is fun, but he's not really changing with each episode.

    Good! I love talking this with you people! Awesome!

    Hmmm...related to the settings/environments... what do you prefer?
    Shiny ships, shiny headquarters, shiny costumes?
    or
    decaying houses, decaying streets, decaying...stuff in general?
  • edited April 2011
    I had my fun with it, but I'd really like to go back to "on location" filming.

    Perfect! Do a space film!!!
  • edited April 2011
    I'm not against sci-fi or anything like that personally. Between shiny or decaying..hmm..that's a tough call. Whatever suits you best, although I really lean toward decaying if I had to pick one, although if you go the supernatural/paranormal route that might be a bit cliche too. I'm not really sure.
  • edited April 2011
    make it like x-files.
  • edited April 2011
    Make a series that inspires people to become Nihilsts, Like just like Twin Peaks or if you're looking for an example in the world of cinema, Memento.
    Or, if the word nihilism is taboo for you too discuss or even look at just like it is for the people who stopped responding to this thread, then create a dark-humour psychological horror series ... like ... Blinky™
  • edited April 2011
    Perfect! Do a space film!!!

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    I'm not against sci-fi or anything like that personally.

    Sci Fi can be cool. I never liked it until I saw Doctor Who and Star Trek :)
    Between shiny or decaying..hmm..that's a tough call.

    I know, that's why I'm asking you guys. It may also be neither, who knows? :)
    Whatever suits you best

    Decaying.
    although I really lean toward decaying if I had to pick one

    Too late, I copyrighted it. Read above. :p
    although if you go the supernatural/paranormal route that might be a bit cliche too. I'm not really sure.

    Could you, please, give me an example? I never met this clichee, unless you are refering to a decaying post-apocalyptic world. I'm not aiming for that.
    coolguy721 wrote: »
    make it like x-files.

    I'm desperately trying to make it as FAR away from X-Files as possible :D Isn't it enough that I have a lead female? We don't need to nickname her Scully!
    Jon NA wrote: »
    Make a series that inspires people to become Nihilsts, Like just like Twin Peaks or if you're looking for an example in the world of cinema, Memento.

    Hm, I'd rather help people feel more, than make them....like you said. Seeing no purpose in life (however metaphorically you take it) is kind of... depressing.
    I can make depressing thoughts fun ;) but not like this.
    Or, if the word nihilism is taboo for you too discuss or even look at

    Why would it be? o.O
    just like it is for the people who stopped responding to said thread, then create a dark-humour psychological horror series ... like Blinky

    Saw the trailer on youtube, vimeo kept asking for my password.
    Hm, intriguing, but done a bijillion times before. That is "classical horror"... I think I can do better than that.

    Okay, so nobody was very intrigued by my last question... except for SF (Secret Fawful, not Sci Fi :p). How about this one:

    Can you give me an example of clothing combination, that would suit a female protagonist or a male protagonist, which looks "cool", "atypical" but "socially acceptable"?

    Now THAT's something I keep thinking of since yesterday... can't get my head around it. It's almost impossible since everybody wore everything at one point! I just need to combine the elements of clothing in a cool way.

    Thoughts?

    Oh and update on the subject here.
  • edited April 2011
    You're a brilliant comedian. But I'd love to see you go a little out of genre and do something a little fresh. Unless you want to be seen solely as a comedian.
  • edited April 2011
    Can you give me an example of clothing combination, that would suit a female protagonist or a male protagonist, which looks "cool", "atypical" but "socially acceptable"?

    Trench coat. That's my response for any fashion decision.
  • edited April 2011
    Can you give me an example of clothing combination, that would suit a female protagonist or a male protagonist, which looks "cool", "atypical" but "socially acceptable"?

    Definately this:
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    (Just kidding, by the way. That outfit could be put as the reason Doctor Who got cancelled)
  • edited April 2011
    Could you, please, give me an example? I never met this cliche, unless you are refering to a decaying post-apocalyptic world. I'm not aiming for that.
    No, decay in horror is widely used. Decaying houses, decaying facilities, etc. are pretty common. If you look at Silent Hill for instance, whenever the town changes and becomes more nightmarish, it turns into a more decayed version of itself. Decay can add a lot to terror and fear, as it can look very unpleasant. Lovecraftian horror as well uses decay a lot, such as a decaying person or the decaying old port town of Innsmouth. Decay and the supernatural go together like peanut butter and jelly.

    Can you give me an example of clothing combination, that would suit a female protagonist or a male protagonist, which looks "cool", "atypical" but "socially acceptable"?

    Depends on the era and the character. If it's modern - leather clothing looks great on men and women. I also like Alcore's suggestion of trenchcoats. That or dusters, which can even make the wearer seem sort of eerie or distant - an effect used in Once Upon A Time in the West. Having a character wear them outside of a western setting would be rather unique as well.
  • edited April 2011
    Doesn't the Doctor wear a trenchcoat/duster for 3 seasons? I don't want people to think that I'm trying to copy Doctor Who in any way...hm... Will get back with a longer response soon. Go on, go on! I'm already looking for color-matches and stuff.
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