Frankenstein threads

edited May 2011 in General Chat
I really hate it when a couple vaguely similar threads are merged for no real reason. It makes sense to merge threads when people post several threads about the exact same topic at roughly the same time, but there's no real reason to merge threads that are totally different from each other, or posted several months apart, into one amalgamated topic. It'd be like if a news site just merged all of the news on the front page tangentially related to the United States under one headline that said "The US Does Some Stuff". The value of separate topics is that you can go into one that specifically looks interesting to you. When they're all mashed together into one vague general topic, no one really wants to sift through 6+ pages of posts to see if there is anything worth looking at in there.

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  • edited May 2011
    Recently, the mods have been putting a bunch of threads together I wouldn't remotely call similar. This is quite silly. What do you all think of it?

    Edit: Merg'd.
  • edited May 2011
    Uh, I'm sorry for questioning the divine powers of mods or anything, lately I observe the fact that some threads are getting locked without much concern. I mean there are many similar threads getting merged and it helps the availability and order of sorting of the subject at hand, I guess, but locking threads "before anything bad happens" isn't really helping at all. I mean, we can't really discuss about the pirating issue as it's a taboo or something. Can't we just talk about it by sharing different perspectives and maybe find little way outs by ourselves? Is it only me? What's your thought on that people?

    EDIT: Uhhh... Shit.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited May 2011
    Can you give us some examples of poor merges? I'm always quite willing to accept feedback, and curious as to any particular merges that have caught your attention so we can possibly do better.
  • edited May 2011
    Hmmm.... I think I missed out on receiving divine powers... I actually agree I do think SOME threads get closed before they are allowed to go bad.. I do think that they should be given a chance before they are locked up outright... But the piracy threads are something else entirely.
  • edited May 2011
    Irishmile wrote: »
    But the piracy threads are something else entirely.

    It sure isn't the holocaust, so why not talking about it? Try to reason with people who wants to pay but can't, or maybe change the now-obsolete habits of some people who pirates stuff because they think games aren't worthy to be paid. I mean, it just does not solve it for anyone. Sure, Warez links or things like that need to be eradicated, but it's because it's the direct breaking of the rules. My only guess is that we just don't LIKE talking about it so we just pour cement on the whole thing. If it's that so, fine.
  • edited May 2011
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    Can you give us some examples of poor merges? I'm always quite willing to accept feedback, and curious as to any particular merges that have caught your attention so we can possibly do better.

    I don't see any reason for these threads to merged into a single thread. They're all related because they're videos, but the videos are all totally different. Putting them into a single thread severely limits the amount of conversation that can be had about each specific video, as well as making it more difficult to tell exactly what videos are even in the thread without looking at every page. For example, a topic about a BttF/Terminator video would appeal to Terminator fans, but how would they know there is one in there without going into a vaguely titled topic containing a big pile of marginally related videos?

    Merging these threads together has a similar problem. Yes, they are all marginally related as far as their topic, but putting them all into one thread removes the focus from each separate topic within the thread, severely hindering the amount of discussion that can take place for each different topic contained within. Not to mention that an 18 page long thread is a very daunting read for anyone who hasn't already read most of it.

    And while I have your attention:
    I think all of the following threads (and more) should be considered candidates for "forum game" status:

    Rate The Last Movie(s) You Watched
    The Last Item You Purchased?
    Favourite Bands?
    which games are you currently playing
    Rate The Last Song(s) You Heard
    What do you look like? (Post a Pic!)

    All of these threads don't promote any kind of conversation beyond just yelling out stuff about yourself into a sea of people doing the same.
  • edited May 2011
    Falanca wrote: »
    It sure isn't the holocaust, so why not talking about it? Try to reason with people who wants to pay but can't, or maybe change the now-obsolete habits of some people who pirates stuff because they think games aren't worthy to be paid. I mean, it just does not solve it for anyone. Sure, Warez links or things like that need to be eradicated, but it's because it's the direct breaking of the rules. My only guess is that we just don't LIKE talking about it so we just pour cement on the whole thing. If it's that so, fine.

    I have an easy answer for you. The piracy issue is actually an order handed down from Telltale. Regardless of whether we feel that piracy discussion should be allowed, we're to shut it down on sight.

    And SHODAN, I saw that post. The others are free to override me if they feel differently, but I'm saying no.
  • edited May 2011
    The others are free to override me if they feel differently, but I'm saying no.

    The reason the "whatever's on your mind" thread was moved there is exactly the same reason those threads should be moved there. The nature of the threads is not conducive to conversation. Sure, little conversations break out here and there, through the course of the threads, but those are usually few and far between.

    I would even go so far as suggesting a different, post-countless sub-forum made specifically for that type of post.
  • edited May 2011
    I really don't see why it matters, honestly. Most of the people who post in those threads already have ridiculously high post counts anyway, so moving them to Forum Games wouldn't really change much. Except for people like me and Pants, of course, but watching our post counts plummet is just good fun for the rest of the forum, so who cares?

    Though, if it comes to this, sooner or later every new thread will have to undergo a board of review to see if it is relevant to discussion and also not too controversial. A police forum, you might say!

    And then...the Revolution!
  • edited May 2011
    I really don't see why it matters, honestly. Most of the people who post in those threads already have ridiculously high post counts anyway, so moving them to Forum Games wouldn't really change much. Except for people like me and Pants, of course, but watching our post counts plummet is just good fun for the rest of the forum, so who cares?

    Though, if it comes to this, sooner or later every new thread will have to undergo a board of review to see if it is relevant to discussion and also not too controversial. A police forum, you might say!

    And then...the Revolution!

    I love revolutions! Can I be Trotsky? I want to be betrayed by the Revolution's Stalin figure once the Lenin figure dies!
  • edited May 2011
    I feel like this forum takes post counts way too seriously.
  • edited May 2011
    I love revolutions! Can I be Trotsky? I want to be betrayed by the Revolution's Stalin figure once the Lenin figure dies!

    Okay. I want to be Stalin, then, so that I can betray you! It will be fantastic!
    Scnew wrote: »
    I feel like this forum takes post counts way too seriously.

    It's only because we're sad, sick, twisted individuals who look upon our postcount as a tangible representative of our overall quality as a human being. That's all.
  • edited May 2011
    I love revolutions! Can I be Trotsky? I want to be betrayed by the Revolution's Stalin figure once the Lenin figure dies!

    Giving you this opportunity is reason enough to never, ever allow this forum to become a police state.
  • edited May 2011
    Giving you this opportunity is reason enough to never, ever allow this forum to become a police state.

    I dunno, man. We're well on our way...

    WHATEVER'S ON YOUR MIND! NEVER FORGET!

    That's our Potemkin, man.

    And Dashing? He's a collaborator with the Tsarists, for sure. Selling out those threads and murdering our poor post counts.

    Мир! Земля! Хлеба! Вся власть Советам!
    Okay. I want to be Stalin, then, so that I can betray you! It will be fantastic!
    Sure, I don't see any problem with that, Вождь.
  • edited May 2011
    Giving you this opportunity is reason enough to never, ever allow this forum to become a police state.

    This is probably the most comforting news I've heard all day. Better than all the assurances, anyway.
    Sure, I don't see any problem with that, Вождь.

    Sweet! Should this Revolution thing happen anyways, at least we've got it all planned out. All we need is a Lenin so that they can die off and leave all the power to me.
  • edited May 2011
    This is probably the most comforting news I've heard all day. Better than all the assurances, anyway.
    How can you possibly be comforted after reading my post? Whatever's on your mind was murdered by reactionaries of the old guard! A purge, I say! A purge!
    Sweet! Should this Revolution thing happen anyways, at least we've got it all planned out. All we need is a Lenin so that they can die off and leave all the power to me.
    Hm... Who can be Lenin? Hey Fawful! Get your ass in here!
  • edited May 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    I feel like this forum takes post counts way too seriously.

    I'd rather they just remove post count entirely.
  • edited May 2011
    How can you possibly be comforted after reading my post? Whatever's on your mind was murdered by reactionaries of the old guard! A purge, I say! A purge!

    This is true. Revolution is brewing, we cannot deny it anymore.
    Hm... Who can be Lenin? Hey Fawful! Get your ass in here!

    Yes! We need an inspiring...well, a leader, anyway.
  • edited May 2011
    I'd rather they just remove post count entirely.

    I get the feeling that you're ignoring us. That rather hurts, you know. Before continuing your violent, reckless campaign against things which Alcoremortis and I care deeply, perhaps you should tell us why we're wrong to car about our post counts? Perhaps you should tell us why we take pride in a measure of our activity here? Perhaps you haven't got it in you?

    Reactionary, bourgeois traitor to the glorious Blinky Revolution! You don't deserve that avatar.
  • edited May 2011
    NEIN! THEN NO ONE WOULD RESPECT ME! Err... I can see your point. Maybe this is Motivational Mod Sp33|< or it's just me.

    We have rules that we have to follow along with our personal Judgement and yes some threads to get merged poorly. Post counts are sometimes taken too seriously but there are good points about them too. Sometimes a higher post count is a sign of seniority along with Join dates.

    Also some people like to rush count, so they can get seniority post counts are all just how you look at them.
  • edited May 2011
    I get the feeling that you're ignoring us. That rather hurts, you know. Before continuing your violent, reckless campaign against things which Alcoremortis and I care deeply, perhaps you should tell us why we're wrong to car about our post counts? Perhaps you should tell us why we take pride in a measure of our activity here? Perhaps you haven't got it in you?

    Quantity != Quality
  • edited May 2011
    Quantity != Quality

    I maintain that the bantering between Alcoremortis and I was well within the design of most web forums. You know, the whole talking to people online part. Clearly, you hate free speech.
  • edited May 2011
    I maintain that the bantering between Alcoremortis and I was well within the design of most web forums. You know, the whole talking to people online part. Clearly, you hate free speech.

    There's also the fact that we, you know, haven't been bantering a lot on here anyways. Probably due to the enormous positive reception we received by being entertaining.

    Also,
    Quantity != Quality

    I don't understand. What does this even mean? I may have made plenty of pointless posts, but they were usually understandable, if that's what you're getting at. Usually.
  • edited May 2011
    There's also the fact that we, you know, haven't been bantering a lot on here anyways. Probably due to the enormous positive reception we received by being entertaining.

    Remember how we were welcomed back with open arms? What happened to those days? Was it the reactionaries? The Tsarist Okhrana with Dashing, murdering Whatever's on your Mind? The long running abuse of power and systematic obliteration of the Democratic process? Who can say?
  • edited May 2011
    Quantity != Quality

    This coming from the guy who has more recorded posts than Comrade Pants and Alcoremortis combined.
  • edited May 2011
    Remember how we were welcomed back with open arms? What happened to those days? Was it the reactionaries? The Tsarist Okhrana with Dashing, murdering Whatever's on your Mind? The long running abuse of power and systematic obliteration of the Democratic process? Who can say?

    I think we may be remembering different events. Our return was more likely to be heralded by crazy old men waving signs telling of the coming apocalypse than parades and open arms.
    This coming from the guy who has more recorded posts than Comrade Pants and Alcoremortis combined.

    Fawful! You're here! Will you be Lenin in the coming revolution so that you can die and I can assume your position?
  • edited May 2011
    I'm working on my game. I don't have time to play Regime with you Rusky-lovin' rascals.
  • edited May 2011
    This coming from the guy who has more recorded posts than Comrade Pants and Alcoremortis combined.

    Oh ho ho! Burned! Wanna be our Lenin, Fawful?
    I'm working on my game. I don't have time to play Regime with you Rusky-lovin' rascals.

    You needn't play long! Just long enough to die and let Alcore be Stalin!

    I think we may be remembering different events. Our return was more likely to be heralded by crazy old men waving signs telling of the coming apocalypse than parades and open arms.

    Мира, земли, хлеба! Read your revised Soviet Forum History Volume II, dear Comrade. It's right after the part where the fire breathing community manager allowed the murder of Whatever's on your Mind to go unpunished.

    inb4 ban, fire breathing is a pretty cool power, you know. Also, I didn't name anyone specifically, so *technically* no rules were broken... I think...
  • edited May 2011
    I have an easy answer for you. The piracy issue is actually an order handed down from Telltale. Regardless of whether we feel that piracy discussion should be allowed, we're to shut it down on sight.

    Thanks for the information. I wasn't really blaming anyone for it, and to be honest piracy isn't something that I'm fond of when it comes to discuss about it. It's just... random to me. I just wonder why. I still do. It's like they don't want people on their forums to say anything about pink doormats, or Jerry Seinfeld. It just makes me think and I can't really get too far.
  • edited May 2011
    Мира, земли, хлеба! Read your revised Soviet Forum History Volume II, dear Comrade. It's right after the part where the fire breathing community manager allowed the murder of Whatever's on your Mind to go unpunished.

    inb4 ban, fire breathing is a pretty cool power, you know. Also, I didn't name anyone specifically, so *technically* no rules were broken... I think...

    Oh. Right. the Revised history. Alrighty then, yes. Of course.

    Also, this thread: DERAILED!

    Guess it should be chucked into Forum Games now. It's what SHODAN would have wanted.
  • edited May 2011
    You needn't play long! Just long enough to die and let Alcore be Stalin!

    If that happens, I'll be forced to come back as a ghoul and haunt you all. No, I'd rather be Patton, and go through you like shit through a goose.
  • edited May 2011
    If that happens, I'll be forced to come back as a ghoul and haunt you all. No, I'd rather be Patton, and go through you like shit through a goose.

    I think you're confused. See, Patton beat the Nazis to death with a pillow case full of nickels, not the Soviets. He just glared hatefully at the Soviets.

    Oh. Right. the Revised history. Alrighty then, yes. Of course.

    Also, this thread: DERAILED!

    Guess it should be chucked into Forum Games now. It's what SHODAN would have wanted.

    Ah, yes. Freeman. The traitor. The reactionary. The Tsarist. He's worse than Goldstein, that one. Worse, even, than Snowball.
  • edited May 2011
    You never said Regime had to be historically accurate. All I know is I want to be Patton and I want to kill people.
  • edited May 2011
    You never said Regime had to be historically accurate. All I know is I want to be Patton and I want to kill people.
    Fine. You can be Patton. I call dibs on the ivory handled SAA revolvers, though. You wouldn't even know how to use them.
  • edited May 2011
    Fine. You can be Patton. I call dibs on the ivory handled SAA revolvers, though. You wouldn't even know how to use them.

    This does leave us lacking a Lenin, though. Which is mildly problematic.
  • edited May 2011
    Since this thread has nothing more to do about frankenstein threads. It will be closed.
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