Death To Hollywood!!!!!!!!
Seriously, from looking at the list of future films coming out of Hollywood on IMDB, most are remakes and just utter garbage.
The future of film from these money grabbing con artists is a joke.
I mean, a remake of Total Recall? WHY??????
I wish they would just implode.
Nothing that comes out today is worth my time at all. All the movies that were highly rated and ass kissed by people like The Dark Knight and Inception.......yawn.
Heres the box office crap out at the moment:
1. The Hangover Part II $85.9M
2. Kung Fu Panda 2 $47.7M
3. Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides $39.8M
4. Bridesmaids $16.6M
5. Thor $9.53M
This really is a shit decade for films. You can tell me that there were 90's and 80's films that sucked too but at least they were made with some heart and creativity and didnt rely on CGI, perfect looking people and mundane story lines.
The future of film from these money grabbing con artists is a joke.
I mean, a remake of Total Recall? WHY??????
I wish they would just implode.
Nothing that comes out today is worth my time at all. All the movies that were highly rated and ass kissed by people like The Dark Knight and Inception.......yawn.
Heres the box office crap out at the moment:
1. The Hangover Part II $85.9M
2. Kung Fu Panda 2 $47.7M
3. Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides $39.8M
4. Bridesmaids $16.6M
5. Thor $9.53M
This really is a shit decade for films. You can tell me that there were 90's and 80's films that sucked too but at least they were made with some heart and creativity and didnt rely on CGI, perfect looking people and mundane story lines.
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Because this time they have money for a chick with 5 boobs. Just imagine that!
PS: That is the only scene I remember from that movie and I still wonder why.
Yes current cinema is shit but most movies in the past haven't been better. It's mostly nostalgia (like the movie on your avatar) or remembering the good movies and forgetting about the crap ones.
I feel that I must say that I do think that an over-reliance on CGI these days has made things worse, visually at least. However, your statement certainly rings the bell of truth with great aplomb.
Whilst there is some truth to what you say, none the less that's a sweeping generalisation.
Surely you should have used puppies to cover those... puppies! The cat should be placed lower down!
Well yes you are right its the losers who pay to see the garbage but the problem isnt solved is it If only a small percentage of us 'seek out and support films with artistic integrity'.
My biggest concern is why the masses dont stop and think "wtf is this shit im not happy with the way films are today" they just consume and consume.
And all this gimmicky HD bullshit. I'd happily watch a film in 360p if it had a good storyline and was character driven.
Ok, give me some movies you think totally suck from the 90's or 80's and I will compare them with the shitty ones of today, I can guarantee the old ones would fair better.
Well, that's easy to answer... most people are either ignorant to the quality that's available outside of the mainstream or are just plain shallow and are quite happy to watch nothing other than a series of explosions and one liners for the entirety of their life. Also, there's moments when even the deepest of souls just want to watch a movie where one can leave their brain at the door from time to time.
Of course HD isn't necessary to watching a great film but to dismiss HD as "gimmicky bullshit" is well... bullshit. Try watching Blade Runner on Blu-ray and then tell me that it doesn't enhance the experience. Go on, I dare you. 3D on the other hand...
Okay, that's utter garbage you're sprouting now. I could produce a list to counter your nonsensical argument but frankly I've got better things to do.
I can agree on that completely. Movies in earlier days were more imaginative and I would choose puppet Yoda over CGI-Yoda anytime.
That's your response? Okay, I admit it; you've defeated me. How can I possibly counter that powerful argument of truth?!
Visual effects were generally much more imaginative before the influx of CGI hit and in that respect; yes, films were more creative back in the day because they had to be (due to a limitation of tools). However, very little of this has any bearing upon story, character and dialogue... you know, the script!
Same. Like Two Face's face in TDK, was done with CGI. LAZY in my opinion. Gone are the days of cool set pieces, replaced by boring CGI.
For someone who is harking on about the lack of depth of story, you certainly seem hung up on the visual side of things. Are you just comparing popcorn movies or is this a discussion on film? Take "The Road" for example; was that a shallow film, devoid of creativity? It may surprise you to know this but "The Road" actually has a fair amount of CGI but the difference is that it's used to tell the story and create the post-apocalyptic world. CGI isn't the Devil, it can be a filmmakers friend when used appropriately.
Ferngully, Garbage Pale Kids, The Neverending Story part 2 + 3, (Battlefield Earth, okay that one was from 2000) , Batman & Robin, Highlander 2, Beastmaster 2...
Urgh, you're actually humouring him?
Whats up man?
No. I just gave him some movies that sucked in the 90s and 80s so he can tell me how much better than today's crap they are. Just as he requested.
Simply put, look at the titles. AWESOME, totally awesome. Nothing like that made today. Jst shitty American toilet humour bollocks like The Hangover.
Edit-And DEATH to the mashed potato-for brains public that consume the foul poison of Hollywood-en.
I actually tried watching that movie for the first time today and didn't get a single laugh out of it after 42 minutes. That was supposed to be a comedy? I don't know. Maybe I am just not the target audience for that movie. e.g. I am not drunk right now...
I will finish it later but I already lost all hope.
What do you think of Black Swan? I think that had a really good imaginative plot.
I despair at the state of the film industry at the moment...well....the mainstream anyway, as thats all that seems to matter to the clones of society.
I find myself watching awesome Asian/asia extreme movies, or any foreign film...theres so many hidden gems to be found.
Ity just amazes me that the fanboys of the world cream their pants when garbage like X Men 1st Class comes out and shitty Transformers and the likes.
I havnt actually seen Black Swan yet, I did think about renting it out the other night but theres something about it thats made me avoid it for now, prob because I cant stand Natalie Portman. I wasn't impressed with The Wrestler, but kudos to Aranofsky for his continuing foray into more interesting ideas. Have you seen his awesome Requiem for a Dream?
SOAFB whyyyyy.......
Haha had to laugh at Indiana Jones and The Crystal Numb Skull...Indiana Jones and aliens??? Ridiculous, next it'll be something more absurd like Indiana Jones and The Horror of Justin Beiber Fever.
Loved the lead lined fridge tho, what a stupid stupid scene. Everyone in Terminator 2 could of done with one of those, if only they knew.
Okay fine...
Let's list some of the arguably great films that have come out in recent times...
* High Fidelity (2000)
* O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
* Gladiator (2000)
* Best in Show (2000)
* American Psycho (2000)
* Requiem For a Dream (2000)
* Donnie Darko (2001)
* Mulholland Drive (2001)
* The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
* The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
* 28 Days Later (2002)
* Secretary (2002)
* Lost In Translation (2003)
* Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003)
* Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 (2003, 2004)
* Pan’s Labyrinth (2006)
* There Will Be Blood (2007)
* No Country For Old Men (2007)
* Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
* The Road (2009)
* Drag Me to Hell (2009)
* District 9 (2009)
* Inglourious Basterds (2009)
* 127 Hours (2010)
* Shutter Island (2010)
* The Social Network (2010)
* True Grit (2010)
* Inception (2010)
...and that's only just scratching the surface. Also, I purposefully haven't even touched upon the countless classic foreign films from the last decade as I've tried to keep things in Hollywood as much as possible for the sakes of making a point.
As for films that sucked from the 80s and 90s. Why don't you save me some time and go and watch some Nostalgia Critic videos.
* Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 (2003, 2004)
* Pan’s Labyrinth (2006)
* No Country For Old Men (2007)
* Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
* The Road (2009)
* Drag Me to Hell (2009)
* Inglourious Basterds (2009)
* 127 Hours (2010)
* Shutter Island (2010)
* Inception (2010)
Don't agree with these ones. I mean, Drag Me to Hell? Really?
The point is the 4th movie, had its flaws but over all I didn't think it was completely rotten. If I was going to rate them, I'd probably rate them all about the same. As they all follow in the footsteps of their film eras they were based within. I think most people just aren't that film aware, and don't see the connection.
My degree used to be in film. I was going to be a director, but well, I'm in graphic design now. I chose to change degrees because of the job market.
I've studied film , studied Lucas. Lucas likes to take from the roots of film, and work off his child hood. That's where he got most his ideas for his famous franchises, such as Star Wars, which he mostly got from Buck Rogers and other shows he watched as a child.
I'm a pretty big Lucas fan, even though he's gone off a bit of a deep end. I will watch and enjoy The Phantom Menace and other movies of his that most people would consider less than desirable. I'm not sure what he had in mind for the Phantom Menace, but the saber scenes of that film are very well done and remember-able.
I honestly think that as a film, KOTCS is misunderstood. People used to always complain about TOD over the years, and now people support it, as a Indiana jones film. What people fail to realize is that a movie like TOD was inspired in the same film era as the first and last film. It just pulled more of the adventure aspect from that era of film.
If you ever watch the original journey to the center of the earth and then watch a film like KOTCS the connection is obvious.
LOL I knew Lonnie and Davies would get a long
Taste is subjective. Why do you think I used the term "arguably great". Also, if you don't like films like "Pan's Labyrinth" or "No Country For Old Men" then you need to acknowledge that you're in the minority and produce a counter argument accordingly.
I'm sorry but your whole movie list there was generic mainstream praised films, I'm guessing you worship Robert Ebert too.
If you would care to engage in a discussion with myself on film in an adult manner then by all means please do. However, responses such as...
... do not form a constructive argument. In fact, they serve to demonstrate as to why you were banned from this forum in the first place.
You're very quick to dismiss titles such as "No Country For Old Men", "The Road" and "Pan’s Labyrinth" but you claim that titles such as "The Neverending Story 3", "Battlefield Earth" and "Batman & Robin" are "awesome". If you can't see the hypocrisy in your baseless argument and non-sensical responses then I don't know what to tell you.
It seems to me that you're much more mainstream then you would care to admit.
I really like that movie, though I've only seen it one time. It's a great movie. I'm not sure if I have my copy around. I can't remember when I last saw my copy and where it was.
People are being too snobbish about movies. Sure, there are some crap made out here, but one cannot deny that some of the more popular movies are actually good.
I mean, how can it be that nearly 90% of all the movies get an average rating of 25% (not a fact)? It's not that the movies just plain suck, it's more to do with the fact that the moviegoers are bullshitting us.
I mean, Scott Pilgrim, a good movie, wasn't even watched by the same goddamn people who said "ZOMG AWEXOME MUST SEE". It bombed pretty hard. That just shows that most of these people who hate on Hollywood are just full of shit.
I could care less about being banned because I speak my mind regardless of what an elitist sub intellect like you thinks. See my irony there?
Pans Labyrinth-GARBAGE. Notice you choose the films that, according to your kind, are filled with deep meaningful messages, and praised by pretentious little snobby critics, when really, its a total mess of a film combining fantasy elements with a stupid war plot. sorry, i dont buy it.
No Country for Old Men-what IS so good about it? It started off so well, very promising, al lthe directors did was cut the film short to avoid the cooker cutter typical ending. WOW. Bravo. They actually f***** the movie up.
What? Well there is no hope for you then.
Lonnie, you've made your point, man. We know how you feel, Davies, you disagree, why has this become un-civil. Lonnie, lol, expressing your opinion is one thing but you don't have to STICK IT TO HIM. Dude, man. Some people here are going to agree with you, and some aren't.
I'm not teaming up on you, I like your posts. But I think your attacks on our boy Davies are a bit extreme, he doesn't make the movies, sure he supports them , but it's not like he's directly responsible.
Hahahahaha...fair enough. F*** it, I just dont care anymore. I feel totally isolated in my opinions, fighting a shit world full of bullshit.
I'm 26 years of age and I feel 60.
I just want substance and meaning back in my life.
And decent films which are WORTH PAYING TO SEE.
Is it too much to ask?
You just wait until I start making my own films and bust onto the scene in the nude.
I also speak my mind and am doing so when I say this; try forming an argument and stop throwing petty insults my way. You're making yourself look rather foolish.
My kind? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware you knew me and my taste in film. For your presumptuous information, I chose the films I did because we were having a discussion based around Hollywood. Did you want me to list some of my favourite recent foreign and independent films? I could but it doesn't seem relevant to the topic at hand.
Nobody's claiming that you have to like the films that most critics praise but the above is not an argument that holds bearing upon the inane point you're trying to make.
P.S. Before you reply with a load more thinly disguised personal insults; why don't you take your time and form a counter argument that holds some weight.
I mean, I know people who like High School Musical.
Ok ok, you're right, personal insults and that....I get the RAGE when I get onto the subject of films etc (politics) and I just cant comprehend some peoples opinions of films I totally f****** hate.
What bothers me are the high and all mighty people that ell me oh Lonnie you didnt get Inception etc thats why you didnt like it, and you cant join our awesome book club because you havnt read our favourite book Catcher in the Rye.
rgnrkgnrnroutgp5rtgkr4ot[24ko59-fgregreg5t5gtgtfhghg........just watever man i cant be f****** anymore.
You just like watever you like vice versa.