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Ep 5: Find out where HV is.

AwesomePossumAwesomePossum
edited June 2011 in Back to the Future - Hints & Help
When I go to the clay oven I can't move and yet I've already put the mop on the cactus noutside of Edna's house. Help?

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  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    dont remember but click on clay oven and after that pick up flamed wood

    p.s.
    did you put saloon sign on outhouse?
  • AwesomePossumAwesomePossum
    edited June 2011
    yeah I have just then.
  • AwesomePossumAwesomePossum
    edited June 2011
    Could anyone help me here?
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    ok, i think you forgot to put hat to cactus maybe?
  • AwesomePossumAwesomePossum
    edited June 2011
    dxdy wrote: »
    ok, i think you forgot to put hat to cactus maybe?

    hat? You mean the mop?
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    after mop you must put hat on cactus...
  • AwesomePossumAwesomePossum
    edited June 2011
    Where is this hat and how can I get it?
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    look around house (where you pickup saloon sign)
  • XevianXevian
    edited June 2011
    I'm stuck at this same spot, also not seeing a hat anywhere, I've been over the whole area!

    I guess I must be blind??
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    hat is on STOP sign...
  • tippythoptippythop
    edited June 2011
    I've got the mop on the cactus the saloon sign on the outhouse and the hat on the cactus as well but i dont remember picking up the hat anyways even though it IS on the cactus. Tried giving stick on fire to edna but she just freaks out and doc says dont break the trance. Another bug yet again?
  • XevianXevian
    edited June 2011
    Hmmm, Definitely no hat or anything on top of the stop sign for me >.<

    I'll try going from and older save or something, failing that start again...
  • MadWillMadWill
    edited June 2011
    Yeah, no hat on the stop sign for me, either.

    I tried an earlier save, no hat on the stop sign.

    I reaaaallly don't want to start again from the beginning... at least today.
  • Mordaki987Mordaki987
    edited June 2011
    ok have hat and mop on the cactus, saloon sign on the outhouse door how do you simulate the time jump? i can't move around with the flaming stick when you get it out of the clay oven and i don't see a way to click the stick on any of the delorean parts that are part of the trip wire. so what are you supposed to do after you get everything set up and edna is sitting in the burned out delorean behind the steering wheel?
  • ShoxirShoxir
    edited June 2011
    Mordaki987 wrote: »
    ok have hat and mop on the cactus, saloon sign on the outhouse door how do you simulate the time jump? i can't move around with the flaming stick when you get it out of the clay oven and i don't see a way to click the stick on any of the delorean parts that are part of the trip wire. so what are you supposed to do after you get everything set up and edna is sitting in the burned out delorean behind the steering wheel?

    Click on the tripwire, the clashing metal will simulate the time jump.
  • Guybrush81Guybrush81
    edited June 2011
    Hmm, seems like I did everything right, but I'm still stuck. I put mop and hat on the cactus and put the saloon sign on the outhouse door. But anytime I try to give the burning stick to Edna or use it with the outhouse, Edna goes nuts. When I talk to the cactus, Edna only tells me (or Danny, didn't really get it) not to speak with him (or me).
  • holmjaholmja
    edited June 2011
    I've gotten all the way to this point in the game only to find there is no hat anywhere that I can see. I've even taken to pixel hunting the entire scene. Could anyone share a save game from this point where the hat is showing up?
  • ILoveDocILoveDoc
    edited June 2011
    I got no hat on the stop sign either.
  • ILoveDocILoveDoc
    edited June 2011
    This is getting frustrating. I cant find a stupid hat anywhere!
  • skullehskulleh
    edited June 2011
    Guybrush81 wrote: »
    Hmm, seems like I did everything right, but I'm still stuck. I put mop and hat on the cactus and put the saloon sign on the outhouse door. But anytime I try to give the burning stick to Edna or use it with the outhouse, Edna goes nuts. When I talk to the cactus, Edna only tells me (or Danny, didn't really get it) not to speak with him (or me).

    I'm stuck where Guybrush81 is too. Anyone able to help?
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    this correct actions for passing this:

    - knock to door (you activate tripwire)
    - knock to door again. tell to Edna you be today together
    - knock again and tell Edna you borough some to her and then click to Doc
    - when Edna go out, she put down Hat and put him on STOP sign.
    - tell Doc word Shnookums
    - use recording device (flowers) on Edna
    - when Edna enter in burned DeLorean, use Tripwire
    - use Mop and Hat on cactus
    - put Saloon sign on Outhouse
    - click on Clay Oven and give burning wood to Edna
  • skullehskulleh
    edited June 2011
    Thanks dxdy but where's the flower pot with the recording device on it. It's not in my inventory and I can't pick up either of the two pots the tripwire is attached to so they musn't be it...
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    you (must) have it from EXPO when recorded Edna confession ;)
  • skullehskulleh
    edited June 2011
    That's what I thought I needed but I can't see it in my inventory. Maybe it's a bug and I have to start again...?
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    here is my save (PC) for this position

    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2635&d=1308920100
  • skullehskulleh
    edited June 2011
    Great thanks heaps for that :D. Not sure why I didn't have it in my saved game...
  • ILoveDocILoveDoc
    edited June 2011
    Ah! THANK YOU. God that was frustrating!
  • metalsquidmetalsquid
    edited June 2011
    Guybrush81 wrote: »
    Hmm, seems like I did everything right, but I'm still stuck. I put mop and hat on the cactus and put the saloon sign on the outhouse door. But anytime I try to give the burning stick to Edna or use it with the outhouse, Edna goes nuts. When I talk to the cactus, Edna only tells me (or Danny, didn't really get it) not to speak with him (or me).

    I encountered a bug in this area too. after putting the mop on the cactus and it was time to trigger the 'grandpa' memory, i didn't have the hat in my inventory but i clicked on the cactus again and the hat magically appeared on the cactus but Edna said it doesn't look right.

    at this point i think you're supposed to pick up the hat from the wooden post where Edna leaves it after coming out the house. well it was on the cactus now so when i clicked it from on top the cactus, suddenly the animation played of Marty picking up the hat from the wooden post and placing it on the cactus, which then triggers Edna's memory of her grandpa.

    this is the third bug i've encountered this episode!
  • Emo HoeEmo Hoe
    edited June 2011
    To clear things up:
    The hat will NOT be there to start with.

    You must talk to Edna (via the tripwire) about things that happened today/in her past until you get to show her something.
    Then you can show her Doc as "Emmet Brown" to get her to come outside.
    Using the flowerpot on her then starts the flashback trance, the trance then has several stages:
    1) The mop head from near the outhouse on the cactus becomes officer parker to move on 1 stage.
    2) Once in the delorean the tripwire simulates a time jump making her get out of the car
    3) At this point grabbing edna's hat (she takes it off when she comes outside) and adding to the cactus becomes her grandfather and moves you on to the tannen story.
    4) Then outhouse sign on the outhouse prompts recalling tannens saloon.
    5) Searching the clay oven to get the burning stick and using it on the outhouse prompts recalling burning the saloon down and the info you need to know.
  • ILoveDocILoveDoc
    edited June 2011
    I found the hat on the ground.
  • Guybrush81Guybrush81
    edited June 2011
    dxdy wrote: »
    this correct actions for passing this:

    - knock to door (you activate tripwire)
    - knock to door again. tell to Edna you be today together
    - knock again and tell Edna you borough some to her and then click to Doc
    - when Edna go out, she put down Hat and put him on STOP sign.
    - tell Doc word Shnookums
    - use recording device (flowers) on Edna
    - when Edna enter in burned DeLorean, use Tripwire
    - use Mop and Hat on cactus
    - put Saloon sign on Outhouse
    - click on Clay Oven and give burning wood to Edna


    Thanks, now I know what went wrong. After getting Edna to confess at the Expo, I put the recording device back in the phone booth to try out something and didn't pick it up again. Seems to me like I'm stuck at this point. Hill Valley - and therefore the Expo - is gone by now hence getting back there might be a bit difficult. :-)

    Looks like a beginner's mistake in riddle-design to me. The story should never be able to proceed without the character carrying all needed items. :-(
  • techgeek07techgeek07
    edited June 2011
    dxdy wrote: »
    here is my save (PC) for this position

    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2635&d=1308920100

    Thank you, dxdy. You saved me a lot of work
  • MrCyberFreak99MrCyberFreak99
    edited June 2011
    Once Edna comes out grab her hat by the door. She'll talk about repressed memories and you'll have to recreate exactly what happened in 1931 at her house.
  • KaladronKaladron
    edited June 2011
    I got the same bug - Clicked on the cactus and it automatically put the hat on without me having picked it up. Now I can't progress because Edna is technically seeing a hat-less cactus.

    Anyone have a Mac save for this part of the game or know of a workaround/patch?
  • KaladronKaladron
    edited June 2011
    Never mind. Found an auto-save from the beginning of the scene. All sorted and finished now. :) Cool ending.
  • Javi-Wan KenobiJavi-Wan Kenobi
    edited June 2011
    Guybrush81 wrote: »
    The story should never be able to proceed without the character carrying all needed items. :-(
    Maybe they're training for the King's Quest game, with all those Sierra-style dead ends...
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited June 2011
    Kaladron wrote: »
    I got the same bug - Clicked on the cactus and it automatically put the hat on without me having picked it up. Now I can't progress because Edna is technically seeing a hat-less cactus.

    Anyone have a Mac save for this part of the game or know of a workaround/patch?

    Had the same problem on PC but somehow got around it... not sure but maybe I clicked on the spot that the hat was supposed to be on (fence)??
  • dxdydxdy
    edited June 2011
    use my save position...

    hat is on top of STOP sign... Edna put hat there when go out from house to see Emmet...
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