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Foreshadowing in MI2?

mlrockrulesmlrockrules
edited July 2011 in Tales of Monkey Island
Ok, so I've actually had this on my mind for a long time, but this is the first time I've actually written about it. When LeChuck appears during Guybrush's dream on Booty Island in MI2, he is wearing a blue jacket instead of the red one he wears at every other point in the game. I think that he is wearing a blue jacket, much like Guybrush is, to indicate that Guybrush and LeChuck have more in common than Guybrush knows, ie they have the same blood (brothers.) Does anyone think that LeChuck's blue jacket in the dream sequence is meant to foreshadow the revelation that the two are brothers, or is there another reason, such as a possible flaw in the original technology?

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  • Alex IDVAlex IDV
    edited June 2011
    I thought it just was so he wouldn't blend in with the red background.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2011
    I thought it was LeChuck's Magical Mind Rape Coat(TM).
  • unicornfoalunicornfoal
    edited June 2011
    It is just so that he doesn't disappear into the background. But, by all means, read some symbolism into it if you really want to. xD
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited June 2011
    Yup, trying to implement any kind of color symbolism is probably least on the designer's mind when he has to create an attractive, atmospheric and readable color composition in a rather limited color environment. ;)
  • mlrockrulesmlrockrules
    edited June 2011
    unicornfoal wrote: »
    It is just so that he doesn't disappear into the background. But, by all means, read some symbolism into it if you really want to. xD

    Good point. Also, the fact that LeChuck turns into SMI Guybrush during that sequence might also represent that.
  • unicornfoalunicornfoal
    edited June 2011
    Vainamoinen wrote: »
    Yup, trying to implement any kind of color symbolism is probably least on the designer's mind when he has to create an attractive, atmospheric and readable color composition in a rather limited color environment. ;)

    Haha! xD I actually DID write an essay on LeChuck's design (which included the colour of his coat) throughout the series earlier this year, and I found it both annoying and notable that he had a blue coat in that scene. He also had the blue coat in SMI, so I was able to write it off as it being how Guybrush imagines he'd look as a zombie. xD That's probably why they chose to recolour it blue against the red background, instead of, say, green or yellow.
  • Alex IDVAlex IDV
    edited July 2011
    unicornfoal wrote: »
    Haha! xD I actually DID write an essay on LeChuck's design (which included the colour of his coat) throughout the series earlier this year, and I found it both annoying and notable that he had a blue coat in that scene. He also had the blue coat in SMI, so I was able to write it off as it being how Guybrush imagines he'd look as a zombie. xD That's probably why they chose to recolour it blue against the red background, instead of, say, green or yellow.

    Blue is the complete opposite of red if I remember correctly from my Arts class in school - this will ensure that he'll stand out.
  • TjibbbeTjibbbe
    edited July 2011
    mlrockrules wrote: »
    Ok, so I've actually had this on my mind for a long time, but this is the first time I've actually written about it. When LeChuck appears during Guybrush's dream on Booty Island in MI2, he is wearing a blue jacket instead of the red one he wears at every other point in the game. I think that he is wearing a blue jacket, much like Guybrush is, to indicate that Guybrush and LeChuck have more in common than Guybrush knows, ie they have the same blood (brothers.) Does anyone think that LeChuck's blue jacket in the dream sequence is meant to foreshadow the revelation that the two are brothers, or is there another reason, such as a possible flaw in the original technology?

    I think they changed the color of LeChuck's coat in the Monkey 1 special edition from blue to red, so if you only played those versions that scene might not make as much sense. I always thought of LeChuck in the Booty Island dream sequence as the way Guybrush imagined him based on his previous encounter with him in the first game, as he hasn't run into Zombie Lechuck yet at that point.
  • unicornfoalunicornfoal
    edited July 2011
    Alex IDV wrote: »
    Blue is the complete opposite of red if I remember correctly from my Arts class in school - this will ensure that he'll stand out.

    On the colour wheel, green is the complete opposite of red. As LeChuck's skin was green already, and yellow would just look silly, they decided to take the hint from SMI and use blue.

    Well, that's my theory, anyway. xD [/also took a drawing/art class earlier this year]
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2011
    unicornfoal wrote: »
    On the colour wheel, green is the complete opposite of red.

    But you are aware that different color classification schemes ("color wheels") exist, and especially that the "primary/secondary" and "complementary color" idea is a very tainted one?
  • mirroman478mirroman478
    edited July 2011
    I doubt its the foreshadowing thing. Most likely he is wearing a blue jacket because that's how Guybrush remembered him as looking from the first game
  • unicornfoalunicornfoal
    edited July 2011
    Vainamoinen wrote: »
    But you are aware that different color classification schemes ("color wheels") exist, and especially that the "primary/secondary" and "complementary color" idea is a very tainted one?

    I wouldn't call it 'tainted', just the common one that is being used for a reason. Every wheel that site listed had its flaws; Just cuz this one is the commonly accepted one, doesn't make it evil. If someone just says "colour wheel", they mean the commonly used, paint-based one, not one of the lesser-used minor wheels. Sure, on the other wheels, Blue and Blue-Green are the opposites, but this wasn't specified, so SOMEONE was going to correct it eventually.

    You don't have to be so terse with me for daring to speak up, too. That'll sure teach me for actually trying to socialise with fellow fans once in a while. :\
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2011
    D'awwww, don't interpret my comment as "terse". It's just my attempt at being a tedious know-it-all, and also, my excitement to find someone who is actually interested in these topics. And thirdly, because I have read James Gurney's book three times and just plain want to tell everyone. ;)

    edit: Also, it seems I misused the verb "tainted". Just checked my dictionaries... I think what I wanted to express was more like "flawed"...
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