I know that translations are never perfect, and I always prefer the original version, but sometimes you're tired and want to play without much thinking, and playing in a language that is not yours is more uncomfortable, like try to drive from the back seat (Rebecca Black reference?). And a lot of people can't play with only english subtitles. I have many friends that would love to play Back to the Future and Jurassic Park games but they just CAN'T.
I thought that Microsoft would help with translations, like they did with Wallace & Gromit, which has been the only TT game in Xbox to the date and had multilingual support.
Maybe my post was a bit hostile, but I was sad and needed to let off steam.
I know that translations are never perfect, and I always prefer the original version, but sometimes you're tired and want to play without much thinking, and playing in a language that is not yours is more uncomfortable, like try to drive from the back seat (Rebecca Black reference?). And a lot of people can't play with only english subtitles. I have many friends that would love to play Back to the Future and Jurassic Park games but they just CAN'T.
Let's see which PC games that are due to release this month will include Italian and Spanish languages (list from vgreleases.com):
The Lord of the Rings: War in the North - ITALIAN&SPANISH
NCIS - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Sonic Generations - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Aliens:Colonial Marines POSTPONED RELEASE (but all past Gearbox games were at least in Italian)
Jurassic Park: The Game -
Need For Speed: The Run - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Lego Harry Potter: Years 5-7 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Saints Row: The Third - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Assassin's Creed 3 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Anno 2070 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Time of Fury (cannot find any info from Wasteland Interactive)
Serious Sam 3: BFE - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Which is the only game that is known to not have Italian and Spanish languages?:rolleyes:
Let's see which PC games that are due to release this month will include Italian and Spanish languages (list from vgreleases.com):
The Lord of the Rings: War in the North - ITALIAN&SPANISH
NCIS - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Sonic Generations - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Aliens:Colonial Marines POSTPONED RELEASE (but all past Gearbox games were at least in Italian)
Jurassic Park: The Game -
Need For Speed: The Run - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Lego Harry Potter: Years 5-7 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Saints Row: The Third - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Assassin's Creed 3 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Anno 2070 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Time of Fury (cannot find any info from Wasteland Interactive)
Serious Sam 3: BFE - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Which is the only game that is known to not have Italian and Spanish languages?:rolleyes:
Key difference:
Telltale is a relatively small dev company with budget limitations.
All the others are highly funded massive corporations.
To telltale each language taken for translation = a fair slice of budget that could be used to make the game a whole lot better and has limited consumer impact since like 90% of the world can speak english to some degree and therefore can cope with english only.
To massive devs of the other games, they probably already have in house translation teams and the cost is like a drip in an ocean in their budget.
Afterall translation is a big effort, its not just simply this is english this is italian its essentially a full re-write of dialogue to translate the grammar, slang terminology, colloquialisms of language and in some cases entire re-imagines to make puzzles/challenges work as they can be wording dependant. (good example is the speak easy password in BTTF, the options in other languages have to be entirely different for the mechanic of last syallble = first of answer to work)
Plus not only is there that element of re-writing it all there is the cost of getting an entire extra cast of voice actors for the language if its a full translation.
It will be out for spanish and german just with sub titles it's coming out with a lot of a variety of languages just with sub titles. Im good with english so im not worried
... Imagine us, from Brazil???? Or... the Russians, Chinese and Japanese! We all play a lot video games and our market is good for that!
Telltale should invite cheap translators for that.... hehehe I candidate myself to translate the texts to Brazilian Portuguese! hueuhueh
Isn't that what the fan communities do? the MODs with translations. The point is that not all costumers are used to play complex games out of their native languages. Mainly European, asian, Hispanic and Luso Americas too...
Not all costummers are fortunate to know English pretty well.
For example, I would like to buy a copy of Back to the Future to my 10-year-old nephew. But he could never play such a game. He's a Brazilian kid, and a brazilian kid doesnt speak fluent English....
The same with the Spaniards, Italians and Japanese...
Look this link: the most spoken languages of the world:
On a very general note, we've had this discussion for every game since time memorial. I actually recall a very heated thread for BTTF where German was the most-demanded language for the game. Strangely, when the surprising announcement was made that there IS German text and speech, the extent of applause didn't quite match the former aggression.
So, just a reminder to keep this discussion alive with a fair share of walking in someone else's shoes. If you speak English, it's hard not to look down on people who can not play a game in its original language. If you live in a country which doesn't have a dubbing culture, it's hard to understand why subtitles just don't suffice. If you're not in the translation or voiceover business, you might have an oversimplified idea of the process and its obstacles for smaller companies.
BTTF was a great step forward concerning foreign language support. It does leave a lot to be desired, but I'm sure the more successful TTG is internationally, the more languages will follow in future games. It's just that for the initial release of Jurassic Park, obviously the same connections were used as for the Back to the Future game, hence the same languages.
As always, individual publishers in foreign countries may contact TTG and sell the product with their own translation and voiceover work in retail editions, so don't give up hope for an Italian or Portuguese edition of Jurassic Park just now.
More people may speak Portuguese and Spanish, but it's very likely a higher percentage of German people will be interested in this game. I don't pretend to understand it, I just accept it.
That's it. Can't say I'd really understand it, but it seems like you can sell adventure games in Germany quite well. So well in fact that a once-planned LucasArts Fate of Atlantis sequel was cancelled after marketing chances in Germany were judged to be bad.
There are many ways to evaluate which translation would be the best idea. A rather easy one is to have a look at your website hits and where they come from - this way you'll have a first "interest map" for your game world domination plan. I wonder how this statistics looks for TTG.
if we only refer to the number of people who speak a certain language (mother tongue), we would have to make the following language support (in this order):
1. Chinese (1.213.000.000 speakers)
2. Spanish (329.000.000 speakers)
3. English (328.000.000 speakers)
4. Hindi (242.000.000 speakers)
5. Arabic (221.000.000 speakers)
6. Bengali (181.000.000 speakers)
7. Portuguese (178.000.000 speakers)
8. Russian (144.000.000 speakers)
9. Japanese (122.000.000 speakers)
10. German (90.000.000 speakers)
11. French (68.000.000 speakers)
The only problem that occurs in these situations, which also has passed a lot with tellgames games is that the Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, Chinese, etc. .....
Pirate and download it as there is always someone like culaquiera of us who care about their house translation.
And frankly it makes you feel very badly, because I always buy it via steam all original and I have a ps3 and I have all original, so please enter need someone tellgames team answer me and tell me if in the future are going to translate .
The only problem that occurs in these situations, which also has passed a lot with tellgames games is that the Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, Chinese, etc. .....
Pirate and download it as there is always someone like culaquiera of us who care about their house translation.
And frankly it makes you feel very badly, because I always buy it via steam all original and I have a ps3 and I have all original, so please enter need someone tellgames team answer me and tell me if in the future are going to translate .
Oh come on - only because the game has no language but english can't be a reason to pirate it. I am from germany and I have bought Sam+Max, TOMI, Poker Night, Puzzle Agent, Strong Bad and Hector and not one of these games had german language coming with it. No reason to pirate the game. In fact - even if you would pirate it, there still woudn't be additional languages in it
I want to buy Jurassic Park from Steam but it seems only English is offered (I'm french).
I read on this topic the game was supposed to offer german voices and french text.
Does Steam is wrong and include french text?
Does Steam version doesn't include french text but digital version from telltale do?
Does no version include french text at the end because french people doesn't deserve it?
Will I cook tonight or will I order a pizza?
Please answer my questions, I'm deeply in trouble...
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I thought that Microsoft would help with translations, like they did with Wallace & Gromit, which has been the only TT game in Xbox to the date and had multilingual support.
Maybe my post was a bit hostile, but I was sad and needed to let off steam.
+1.
The Lord of the Rings: War in the North - ITALIAN&SPANISH
NCIS - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Sonic Generations - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Aliens:Colonial Marines POSTPONED RELEASE (but all past Gearbox games were at least in Italian)
Jurassic Park: The Game -
Need For Speed: The Run - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Lego Harry Potter: Years 5-7 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Saints Row: The Third - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Assassin's Creed 3 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Anno 2070 - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Time of Fury (cannot find any info from Wasteland Interactive)
Serious Sam 3: BFE - ITALIAN&SPANISH
Which is the only game that is known to not have Italian and Spanish languages?:rolleyes:
Key difference:
Telltale is a relatively small dev company with budget limitations.
All the others are highly funded massive corporations.
To telltale each language taken for translation = a fair slice of budget that could be used to make the game a whole lot better and has limited consumer impact since like 90% of the world can speak english to some degree and therefore can cope with english only.
To massive devs of the other games, they probably already have in house translation teams and the cost is like a drip in an ocean in their budget.
Afterall translation is a big effort, its not just simply this is english this is italian its essentially a full re-write of dialogue to translate the grammar, slang terminology, colloquialisms of language and in some cases entire re-imagines to make puzzles/challenges work as they can be wording dependant. (good example is the speak easy password in BTTF, the options in other languages have to be entirely different for the mechanic of last syallble = first of answer to work)
Plus not only is there that element of re-writing it all there is the cost of getting an entire extra cast of voice actors for the language if its a full translation.
Uao. Nice answer. So everybody in Europe should start to learn english because it's too difficult to make subtitles? German and French too, I suppose.
Now also have to learn Chinese, is the language of fashion. I'm on it.
Telltale should invite cheap translators for that.... hehehe I candidate myself to translate the texts to Brazilian Portuguese! hueuhueh
Isn't that what the fan communities do? the MODs with translations. The point is that not all costumers are used to play complex games out of their native languages. Mainly European, asian, Hispanic and Luso Americas too...
Not all costummers are fortunate to know English pretty well.
For example, I would like to buy a copy of Back to the Future to my 10-year-old nephew. But he could never play such a game. He's a Brazilian kid, and a brazilian kid doesnt speak fluent English....
The same with the Spaniards, Italians and Japanese...
Look this link: the most spoken languages of the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers
English and German audio, English, German, and French subtitles.
So, just a reminder to keep this discussion alive with a fair share of walking in someone else's shoes. If you speak English, it's hard not to look down on people who can not play a game in its original language. If you live in a country which doesn't have a dubbing culture, it's hard to understand why subtitles just don't suffice. If you're not in the translation or voiceover business, you might have an oversimplified idea of the process and its obstacles for smaller companies.
BTTF was a great step forward concerning foreign language support. It does leave a lot to be desired, but I'm sure the more successful TTG is internationally, the more languages will follow in future games. It's just that for the initial release of Jurassic Park, obviously the same connections were used as for the Back to the Future game, hence the same languages.
As always, individual publishers in foreign countries may contact TTG and sell the product with their own translation and voiceover work in retail editions, so don't give up hope for an Italian or Portuguese edition of Jurassic Park just now.
That's it. Can't say I'd really understand it, but it seems like you can sell adventure games in Germany quite well. So well in fact that a once-planned LucasArts Fate of Atlantis sequel was cancelled after marketing chances in Germany were judged to be bad.
There are many ways to evaluate which translation would be the best idea. A rather easy one is to have a look at your website hits and where they come from - this way you'll have a first "interest map" for your game world domination plan. I wonder how this statistics looks for TTG.
1. Chinese (1.213.000.000 speakers)
2. Spanish (329.000.000 speakers)
3. English (328.000.000 speakers)
4. Hindi (242.000.000 speakers)
5. Arabic (221.000.000 speakers)
6. Bengali (181.000.000 speakers)
7. Portuguese (178.000.000 speakers)
8. Russian (144.000.000 speakers)
9. Japanese (122.000.000 speakers)
10. German (90.000.000 speakers)
11. French (68.000.000 speakers)
Not everyone in Switzerland speaks German...
http://www.ethnologue.com/ethno_docs/distribution.asp?by=size
offensichtlich lernt hat nicht jeder in deutschland, österreich oder der schweiz geborene deutsch als muttersprache
Pirate and download it as there is always someone like culaquiera of us who care about their house translation.
And frankly it makes you feel very badly, because I always buy it via steam all original and I have a ps3 and I have all original, so please enter need someone tellgames team answer me and tell me if in the future are going to translate .
Oh come on - only because the game has no language but english can't be a reason to pirate it. I am from germany and I have bought Sam+Max, TOMI, Poker Night, Puzzle Agent, Strong Bad and Hector and not one of these games had german language coming with it. No reason to pirate the game. In fact - even if you would pirate it, there still woudn't be additional languages in it
Yeah, pirating is even worse - if they had no market in Europe, they will not translate anything.
...How to open the encrypted files of subtitles?..
Check your Private Messages!
I read on this topic the game was supposed to offer german voices and french text.
Does Steam is wrong and include french text?
Does Steam version doesn't include french text but digital version from telltale do?
Does no version include french text at the end because french people doesn't deserve it?
Will I cook tonight or will I order a pizza?
Please answer my questions, I'm deeply in trouble...
The Steam version has the same language options as the version on our site. English and German voices, with English, French and German subtitles.
You should tell to steam to update their page, it's wrong