Apparently Burnout Paradise doesn't have the DLC (and you can't even buy the DLC on PC anymore [???]) so that's lame. I want the Back to the Future car
I am spectacularly unable to activate anything on Origin because I can't even get the 'Redeem Product Code' page to load, either on Origin's website or through the actual program. Outstanding.
I am spectacularly unable to activate anything on Origin because I can't even get the 'Redeem Product Code' page to load, either on Origin's website or through the actual program. Outstanding.
I guess their servers are under heavy load right now. Maybe they just aren't prepared for that. Steam has those moments too but I only see this at the beginning days of a huge sale when millions want to use their store simultaneously.
You're killing me here, EA. $4.55 got me a bunch of OK to pretty good games, and Dead Space 3, but I will never be able to play some of them because you refuse to play nice with Steam, or allow me to opt out of Origin's data-mining policies. Well, at least you had the good sense to put Crysis 2 back on Steam. Maybe this is leading into a big announcement of them putting full and complete games back on Steam, and anyone who already bought the bundle gets free Steam codes for all of the stuff that isn't on Steam right now. And then maybe I can get around the city on a flying pig, because I'm clearly fooling myself into thinking EA cares about their customers and what they want.
I am spectacularly unable to activate anything on Origin because I can't even get the 'Redeem Product Code' page to load, either on Origin's website or through the actual program. Outstanding.
Remember, kids, if EA makes it then it's so shiny that we MUST be consumerism-driven zombies in spite of anti-consumer behavior and PR pandering. Remember: just buy stuff. Just keep buying, and consuming, and mindlessly shuffling forward. I eat poop and am a condescending asshole.
Thanks for the helpful and insightful post that wasn't in any way obnoxious or stupid.
So I'm a shill for liking Alice: Madness Returns, Dead Space, Dragon Age, Kingdoms of Amalur and Mass Effect?
I know some of you are being sarcastic, but I don't care. A good game is a good game, regardless of who publishes it, how shitty an online service they provide for it or how they completely fuck up the sequels.
Yes, I hate Origin. But some of the games they have on there are pretty good, and I won't apologize for liking them. Call me whatever you want.
I just try and find my happiness where I can these days - it seems to be harder and harder to come by, and when people come along and call me names for trying to enjoy something... well.
FYI: The Origin code redemption page is now properly down, complete with error message.
Buying things to make yourself happy regardless of any sort of higher principles is the very basis of being a consumerism-driven ziombie/sheep. It's a position people can have but not one that can be intellectually or ethically defended as good, or even "something more than completely mindless". It's an unthinking, super easy position and it's not something that can be taken seriously by people who enjoy thinking.
You're being called an unthinking consumer because you consume things without thinking. It's hard to take any sort of offense to that seriously.
You also don't care that a major corporation is putting a massive, free advertisement for their DRM scheme on the front page of Humble Bundle, without being required to make DRM-free, Mac, or Linux versions because they make millions of dollars per financial quarter so they get to play by a different, far LESS strict set of rules than two-man teams working out of a shared apartment.
"I don't have to care about ethics because it's cheap" is not a defensible position. It's an easy default. I'm sticking by my stance on that matter.
Look, I'm a depressed fuck who only purchases shit he doesn't need to fill this void that is never going to get filled with material stuff (or anything of monetary value), but even I have principles.
Seriously, there have been a many Activision games I've passed on even during the Summer sale because I actually did tell myself I wouldn't purchase any Activision product ever. Same goes for EA. The only reason I purchase Ubisoft games is because I still have this tiny hope they'll have a release date for Beyond Good & Evil, but even that I don't do often anymore, if at all.
So yeah, I'll be passing on this bundle. People often say to vote with your wallet, and I'm doing just that, so if you think I'm a fucking idiot for passing up a deal like this, then so be it.
For me this has little to do with EA. I passed on the THQ and Silverlight bundles for the same reasons. I don't care for the games being offered and I don't like Humble Bundle running sales for big companies (even when it's for a studio about to fail out of existence).
Maybe not the best wording, but I think I got my point across.
I'd actually be fine with Humble Bundle running sales for bigger companies. What I'm not fine with is Humble Bundle giving bigger companies a different, less strict set of rules to play by. Suddenly a place that was Indie Friendly comes off as "If you're independent, you'd better toe the line or we won't promote you. Oh, hey EA! Buddy! Origin bundle? Sure! We'll even say EA LOVES CHARITY LOOK HOW GREAT ORIGIN IS on the front page for you. What? Don't want to do DRM-free? Why'd you expect us to even ask you to do that?! Silly EA!"
I was tempted to pay $0.01 and claim all the keys just to make Humble lose money, but then I saw that paying less than $1 gets you exactly nothing. Lol.
I agree about the DRM thing. It's not very cool that the bigger companies can get away with not offering DRM-free on their Humble Bundle sales. The Mac and Linux ports though are done either by the Humble Bundle guys or as contract work paid by them. They themselves view Humble Indie Bundles as something different than "Humble" Publisher Bundles, but I agree that this hasn't been communicated well externally and it's causing a lot of confusion.
If I had to guess what's coming next week, I'd guess something Need for Speed, the Mass Effect Trilogy, something Dragon Age, Dead Space 2 and Kingdoms of Amalur. Pick 3.
The TRAITOR BUNDLE for CONSUMERIST SHEEP will add Dead Space 2 as the Steam Database entry was updated around that time. And some dumb war game I can't remember and don't want to bother to look up because the bundle is stupid and for traitors.
Bundles, by definition are "consumerist". By buying any bundle, and not the individual products directly from the developer, you are a consumerist sheep.
Hey, I don't like EA or Triple A bundles either, but it's true.
The difference between the CONSUMER SHEEP and people who happen to consume things is that one demographic consumes whatever they like mindlessly based on selfish whim, while people with principles consider the ethical ramifications of their actions.
Supporting a name-your-price, multiplatform, DRM-free bundle is supporting something UNIVERSALLY GOOD.
Supporting an ADVERTISEMENT FOR ORIGIN that clothes itself in the Humble Bundle branding but is forced to go through none of the requirements is supporting something BAD.
The logic "I don't care about ethics or morality or principles because it's cheap" is the indicator of a consumer sheep.
"I don't care if it's cheap, I care about ethics/principles" is the indicator of a conscious consumer.
I'd hope that the demographic for Humble Bundles would be intelligent enough not to jump on the Origin bandwagon. Personally, I've heard of the evils of Origin and EA before Humble Bundles.
At least the money isn't going to them. I'd have a much bigger problem with that... like that other bundle we recently had.
The audience for this bundle aren't the usual humble bundle audience. The audience for this bundle are all the idiots who treat Humble Bundle as a cheap Steam Key distribution service. You can easily split up the demographics with this bundle, people who get it just buy things for cheapness' sake without caring, while people who don't buy it actually give a damn about anything.
The audience for this bundle are all the idiots who treat Humble Bundle as a cheap Steam Key distribution service.
That's me right there. Too bad that makes me an idiot in your book...
But what I'm wondering is if all the people in here screaming about ethics are so careful when buying groceries or clothes, for instance. Do you read all the labels? Do you boycott countries that violate human rights? Or is this all just some nerdy indignation at DRM?
(Incidentally, I'm not a fan of Origin myself, and upon buying this bundle I'll only redeem the Steam games.)
I admit this is probably a futile effort at this point, but I am going to ask, VERY politely, that you try and tone down the negativity in this thread. Like I say, probably pointless, but whatever.
I hold my hands up and admit to taking part in the negativity myself somewhat, and I'd hardly consider my posts on the previous page to be my finest hour, but seriously - it needs to stop now. It's getting to be an absolute nightmare to even look at this thread any more, and nobody wants that.
If you're against this bundle, fine. I don't hold it against you in the slightest - it'd be wrong to do so, not to mention stupid. But I don't want to see people essentially getting insulted for being interested or actually buying the thing.
Origin sucks. We know. And yes, the fact that there aren't DRM Free versions of the game is arguably against the spirit of these bundles. We know that too. But some people are never going to care about that.
Some people (myself included) just see some interesting games that they'd quite like to buy. Does that make them bad people? No. Does it make them sheep? No. It just means they like games. Yes they're on a shitty service, but then again so are Ubisoft games, and I still buy those. I take what I can get, dammit.
Agree, disagree, whatever. Just... calm the f**k down. Please.
Recent server overload aside, it's always worked better for me than Steam. It's just generally more responsive.
I looked around a bit and I couldn't find any actual evidence of it spying on Users' data any more than Steam does. The accusations all seem to be based on an overzealous EULA.
Pricing sucks, for one thing, especially in the UK (and presumably all of Europe).
Poor customer service, lack of decent sales, it's not Steam, forced integration into all EA's games and the fact that it's a goddamn EA product generally seem to make up the other complaints.
Hasn't EA been named the worst employer and company as well?
I know "company" is a 2 year running title, but I thought I also read "employer" somewhere too.
Pricing sucks, for one thing, especially in the UK (and presumably all of Europe).
Poor customer service, lack of decent sales, it's not Steam, forced integration into all EA's games and the fact that it's a goddamn EA product generally seem to make up the other complaints.
Add to that the fact that you can't say jack shit on the forums that *might* even *remotely* offend someone lest you get banned from not just the forums but the games as well, and you see why Origin isn't really that liked.
Their recent treatment of SimCity absolutely didn't help at all.
Hasn't EA been named the worst employer and company as well?
I know "company" is a 2 year running title, but I thought I also read "employer" somewhere too.
It's mainly petty fanboys who voted it worst company over companies that are actually being horrible instead of putting minor restrictions on video games.
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I guess their servers are under heavy load right now. Maybe they just aren't prepared for that. Steam has those moments too but I only see this at the beginning days of a huge sale when millions want to use their store simultaneously.
How does that EA shiz taste?
Remember kids, it's OK to like good games, unless they come from EA. If a good game comes from an EA studio, you're a shill for liking it.
Besides, the only game in that list that's even remotely interesting to me is Mirror's Edge.
I know some of you are being sarcastic, but I don't care. A good game is a good game, regardless of who publishes it, how shitty an online service they provide for it or how they completely fuck up the sequels.
Yes, I hate Origin. But some of the games they have on there are pretty good, and I won't apologize for liking them. Call me whatever you want.
I certainly don't - I'm too busy having fun playing games. Screw y'all.
I just try and find my happiness where I can these days - it seems to be harder and harder to come by, and when people come along and call me names for trying to enjoy something... well.
FYI: The Origin code redemption page is now properly down, complete with error message.
You're being called an unthinking consumer because you consume things without thinking. It's hard to take any sort of offense to that seriously.
"I don't have to care about ethics because it's cheap" is not a defensible position. It's an easy default. I'm sticking by my stance on that matter.
Seriously, there have been a many Activision games I've passed on even during the Summer sale because I actually did tell myself I wouldn't purchase any Activision product ever. Same goes for EA. The only reason I purchase Ubisoft games is because I still have this tiny hope they'll have a release date for Beyond Good & Evil, but even that I don't do often anymore, if at all.
So yeah, I'll be passing on this bundle. People often say to vote with your wallet, and I'm doing just that, so if you think I'm a fucking idiot for passing up a deal like this, then so be it.
For me this has little to do with EA. I passed on the THQ and Silverlight bundles for the same reasons. I don't care for the games being offered and I don't like Humble Bundle running sales for big companies (even when it's for a studio about to fail out of existence).
Maybe not the best wording, but I think I got my point across.
You can get a Steam key from me for that one if you want.
I haven't tried Origin before though...
I'll wait to see if they add anything good...
Dead Space 2 would be an obvious (and much preferred!) pick if there are more.
Hey, I don't like EA or Triple A bundles either, but it's true.
The difference between the CONSUMER SHEEP and people who happen to consume things is that one demographic consumes whatever they like mindlessly based on selfish whim, while people with principles consider the ethical ramifications of their actions.
Supporting a name-your-price, multiplatform, DRM-free bundle is supporting something UNIVERSALLY GOOD.
Supporting an ADVERTISEMENT FOR ORIGIN that clothes itself in the Humble Bundle branding but is forced to go through none of the requirements is supporting something BAD.
The logic "I don't care about ethics or morality or principles because it's cheap" is the indicator of a consumer sheep.
"I don't care if it's cheap, I care about ethics/principles" is the indicator of a conscious consumer.
At least the money isn't going to them. I'd have a much bigger problem with that... like that other bundle we recently had.
But what I'm wondering is if all the people in here screaming about ethics are so careful when buying groceries or clothes, for instance. Do you read all the labels? Do you boycott countries that violate human rights? Or is this all just some nerdy indignation at DRM?
(Incidentally, I'm not a fan of Origin myself, and upon buying this bundle I'll only redeem the Steam games.)
I hold my hands up and admit to taking part in the negativity myself somewhat, and I'd hardly consider my posts on the previous page to be my finest hour, but seriously - it needs to stop now. It's getting to be an absolute nightmare to even look at this thread any more, and nobody wants that.
If you're against this bundle, fine. I don't hold it against you in the slightest - it'd be wrong to do so, not to mention stupid. But I don't want to see people essentially getting insulted for being interested or actually buying the thing.
Origin sucks. We know. And yes, the fact that there aren't DRM Free versions of the game is arguably against the spirit of these bundles. We know that too. But some people are never going to care about that.
Some people (myself included) just see some interesting games that they'd quite like to buy. Does that make them bad people? No. Does it make them sheep? No. It just means they like games. Yes they're on a shitty service, but then again so are Ubisoft games, and I still buy those. I take what I can get, dammit.
Agree, disagree, whatever. Just... calm the f**k down. Please.
Recent server overload aside, it's always worked better for me than Steam. It's just generally more responsive.
I looked around a bit and I couldn't find any actual evidence of it spying on Users' data any more than Steam does. The accusations all seem to be based on an overzealous EULA.
Poor customer service, lack of decent sales, it's not Steam, forced integration into all EA's games and the fact that it's a goddamn EA product generally seem to make up the other complaints.
I know "company" is a 2 year running title, but I thought I also read "employer" somewhere too.
Their recent treatment of SimCity absolutely didn't help at all.
It's mainly petty fanboys who voted it worst company over companies that are actually being horrible instead of putting minor restrictions on video games.