Are you kidding me with these graphics?
Because this is absolutely ridicilous.
When is TTG going to learn and actually implement some proper graphics and animations into their games?
While this style of graphics is too cartoony and doesn't fit the L&O genre at all but I wouldn't mind that so much if Telltale would just take the graphics aspect somewhat seriously.
Look at Jurassic Park: Good characters, good story. But the graphics look like they were, and they probably were, done by amateurs who never attended a graphic design class in their lives.
My 5-year old niece could have done a better job in that department. The character animations as a whole, body language, movement, lip synch and
facial expressions of emotions is completely unrealistic and it is actually done so poorly that it makes it impossible to get immersed into the game world. BTTF was the same, no effort whatsoever put into animations and thus, no entertainment value.
And so far L&O seems poised to do exactly the same mistakes that BTTF and JP did because there is no indication that L&O will be any better. It's too rough around the edges and with the graphics style they've chosen to use they've effectively destroyed the game before it's even released. I'm still hoping to be proven wrong, but somehow I have my doubts.
If they are not going to bother to work with the graphics and animations, then I'm not going to bother with paying money for the game. It really is that simple. The graphics aspect is so important in a computer game that in many cases, it determines whether it becomes a success
or failure. And it is one of the most contributing factors to replay value and how drawn you as a player get into the game.
When is TTG going to learn and actually implement some proper graphics and animations into their games?
While this style of graphics is too cartoony and doesn't fit the L&O genre at all but I wouldn't mind that so much if Telltale would just take the graphics aspect somewhat seriously.
Look at Jurassic Park: Good characters, good story. But the graphics look like they were, and they probably were, done by amateurs who never attended a graphic design class in their lives.
My 5-year old niece could have done a better job in that department. The character animations as a whole, body language, movement, lip synch and
facial expressions of emotions is completely unrealistic and it is actually done so poorly that it makes it impossible to get immersed into the game world. BTTF was the same, no effort whatsoever put into animations and thus, no entertainment value.
And so far L&O seems poised to do exactly the same mistakes that BTTF and JP did because there is no indication that L&O will be any better. It's too rough around the edges and with the graphics style they've chosen to use they've effectively destroyed the game before it's even released. I'm still hoping to be proven wrong, but somehow I have my doubts.
If they are not going to bother to work with the graphics and animations, then I'm not going to bother with paying money for the game. It really is that simple. The graphics aspect is so important in a computer game that in many cases, it determines whether it becomes a success
or failure. And it is one of the most contributing factors to replay value and how drawn you as a player get into the game.
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That link has no relevance to what I just said. All I've done is state my opinion, which, as you might recall, is the entire point of having a public discussion forum to begin with.
What about games like ZORK that is still considered by serious gamers to be an excellent game.. that has no graphics at all? Or how do you explain Minecraft's popularity?
While I agree presentation is important in most cases, I disagree that if the games visuals are not the best on the market that its automatically a horrible game.
Also your five year old niece sounds amazing I cant wait to play her game...
The animations for almost all Telltale games, in my eyes, are the same for the most part. There are some new animations but the main few animations have been there forever. BTTF:TG suffered for it's lack of animations, the characters just seemed to act like a bad actor who didn't know how to convey the emotion correctly. This is mainly for dialogue though, outside of conversation animations are much more varied and fluid. Although this does make the static talking animations look more obviously odd.
The art style is still only one piece of the game, the gameplay might be brilliant but opinions right now are on what the trailers show us. Don't judge a game on graphics, judge it on the gameplay and entertainment you will get from playing it.
Btw, don't hate someone to give opinions. Offending actual, just, criticism won't help anyone.
I think the game has a beautiful aesthetic that works well, and you are saying that it's not even trying and you are not buying it because of the graphics alone. Plus, you chose to bash BTTF's graphical style - one of a few features I liked about the game - seemingly only because it wasn't 'realistic'. You were rude about it and didn't offer criticism that could realistically be met before release.
I just saw the video and I don't think the graphics are nearly as bad as you put it. I think the cel-shaded look works pretty fine.
Besides, you don't need to offend the game creators just because you don't like the graphics. "Amateurs who never attended a graphic design class in their lives?". They surely worked hard to create those graphics and don't deserve those kinds of words.
Then she must be a pretty awesome artist
Not to everybody, and this does not appear to be a computer game, or rather not a desktop computer game, as it seems clear to me it's optimized for the iOS market.
Although I'm not particularly demanding about graphics myself, I sympathize with those who see graphics as important to immersion. But you have to factor in price. $3 per episode? As Telltale has already gone "casual" with gameplay, it's probably not a bad idea for prices to reflect that, and it's not surprising graphics will be more casual as well.
The real question is what are they going to charge for the PC/Mac version? If it's higher than that of the iOS version, with nothing extra added (eg. still the iOS resolution like Hector was), well then, that would certainly be cause for a rant of the OP's magnitude.
Is be a dick. That link said "it's okay to not like things, but don't be a dick about it" which is extremely relevant.
That said, you're confusing graphics with art style. The graphics look great for the art style they chose. But if you think it looks too cartoony (anyone else having flashbacks to when The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker came out?), your problem is with the art style, not the graphics. And how can you be sure the art style doesn't fit yet? None of us regular folk here have played the game. We've only seen some screenshots and a few video clips. Maybe it works. You just have to give it a chance first. At least wait until you can watch a Let's Play of it if you don't want to spend money.
Not at all, the art style is not the main issue here. Granted, I don't think the cel-shade style fits the L&O genre and I think they're making a huge mistake going in that direction. The issue is the graphics and animation, which completely destroy immersion.
It's not an insult when it's the truth. With the technology available today, the kinds of products TTG put together are simply not good enough. Making believable animations that don't scream at you and put you off throughout the whole game due to its poor quality is not hard; many lesser companies can do it successfully.
It doesn't have to be Crysis or Heavy Rain for the graphics to be adequate. All that is required is to make at least some effort so they can at least pretend to be professional.
Also, the fact that it is more of a casual game that you "don't have to be a gamer to play" is more disconcerting than it is reassuring.
The shock when you then see the trailer take it the other way is not pleasant. I've mellowed out about it since learning it's largely aimed at the iPhone market (I did not realize that), but you shouldn't be so surprised about people having the same reaction.
And you're still being a dick.
One, who's voicing Lennie Briscoe / Jerry Orbach? 'Cause his voice ain't right. Then again, nobody could act like him. (He was my favorite L&O actor.) ... everyone just sounds -off-.
Two, how the hell did they get Rey Curtis / Benjamin Bratt back in the series? The character took early retirement after his wife became ill and moved to California.
Yes, the continuity bothers me. I'm weird.
I think I can answer one of your questions. Rey Curtis' wife passed away in 2009, I believe he guest stared in one episode that season to bury her. As it's 2011 at the start of the game, I think that would be suitable time to grieve then re-apply to his old job.
Also; some episodes seem to take place at different times other than the present, so we may flashback to his time on the show, too.
and I was dissapointed with the style of graphics but I thought ok let them it wont be that bad but im afraid I started to doubt them more because of the graphics even though they had a fantastic story.
If telltale put even a little effot into making good graphics people would enjoy there games more, usually I dont complain about cartoony things but since telltale make games for really serious films and tv programs it does annoy me a lot and annoys me even more when I see trailers for games like Uncharted or La noire.
If they put effort into it then they could easily get games in the game of the year awards
So please telltale listen to the fans of the movies and tv programs not the people who came here because you made a game about a talking dog and weird rabbit who speak and travel through time because just knowing that they are fans for that reason means they dont care about serious things.
Its OK not to like the way the game looks but its a little unfair to compare it to HUGE game releases..
Because we can only like one franchise and by liking it that means our opinions on others are invalid.
Also; the story on Back to the Future: The Game was mediocre at best. The 'graphics' (which were very good and well-optimized, may I add) are not a point to argue about. If you don't like the aesthetic, that's fine, but don't start saying the game's graphics are bad because they have very little if anything to do with eachother.
Go to hell you patronising arse biscuit! If you read the forum histoy for when S&M and TMI where out you would know we care about the game as serious as you care about the movies. Also how the hell is a delorian travling in time anymore serious then a dog and hyperkinetic rabbity thing doing it!?
I dont see the point of you getting pissed because it just makes you look like a fanboy, anyway a delorean travelling throught time is serious like bob gale said: 'If you built a time machiene you would want to be able to move it'
Also the delorean looks really cool and the stainless steel was supposed to make it easier to travel throught time.
Also how can you take a talking dog seriously?
hope that answers your questions.
People are only fanboys when there fans of something the other person doesn't like Being practical doesn't make something serious.
I wasn't insulting how it looked.
Really what it hinges on is in fictinal moves like JP BTTF or games like S&M is how much your willing to hold your sense of disbelief and take it seriously. At the end of the day the all just fiction with wild story's that would never happen in rl.
You said how is it serious and the only way you ment it is: The fact it''s a car
The facts it's a sports car.
also things like bttf and jp are serious because they have action and emotion and the people who like them agree it's serious.
But when it's things like S&M there are no action or emotion it's just some weird random things just to make people laugh.
Even though there is comedy in bttf it's not what it's built on it's very serious for example when doc gets shot or the clocktower scene or the end when marty thinks he will never see doc again.
Can you really say S&M has emotion like that or epic action where people almost die because they didnt escape in time.
(I dont know I have not played it but I have seen loads of trailers and it looks silly to me)
Yes yes it does. I fail to see how it makes something serious though. I mean hot fuzz and double team had that in it and there's no way there serious movies.
...maybe you should attend a graphic design class first? I assure you, JP's graphic design was marvelous. It's the 100-programmer/20-million game engine that just isn't there, and I'm not sure if anyone really expected that.
I've my quarrels with the graphic style as seen in that first L&O trailer, but pros are at work here nonetheless.
Go over to the Sam and Max forum and read all the delicious tears shed by people over the Sam and Max season 3 ending.
well then they are a bit silly crying over a talking dog and talking alien rabbit.
Max isn't an alien.
Ok then but he isnt completley a rabbit so he must be some sort of mutant (and if I got it wrong again I dont care, I dont like sam and max games from what I have seen.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI
Im not being a dick im telling the truth, why do you think games get rated for graphics, well if your right the people who thought they should add it are wrong and dont know anything because they dont like silly graphics, why dont you stop defending telltale all the time and actually try to understand what people are saying instead of thinking they are saying it for fun.
im saying there idiots if they are more serious about talking animals than something like bttf, jp or law and order.
I'm going to underline something very important here: There is no word "im" in the English vocabulary. There is however a word called "I'm", which is actually two words. It's possible to write it either with the apostrophe or as "I am", and one of those options have to be used. Both have the same meaning and they are both spelled with a capital "I", unlike the way you spelled it. But you can't write "im" ever, because that is quite simply not a word that exists in our reality.
Similarly the word "there" can't be used in the context from your above quote, it would be more correct to use "they are" or "they're". "There" is a different word altogether.
Also it is incorrect to refer to the TV show "Law & Order" as "law and order".
Both the words "Law" and "Order" have to begin with capital letters and the two words need to be separated with an ampersand (&).
This is the internet not school you just made a pointless post telling me things I already know.
Oh and the reason I dont put it right is because I spend my time thinking about what im gonna post, not how im going to post it.