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Bug in the ending stats? (Larry)

bwat47bwat47
edited June 2012 in The Walking Dead
I noticed when I finished the first episode, the stats at the ending showed that I sided with larry. I didn't, I told kenny to knock him out. The preview before the stats did reflect that I sides with kenny though. Could this effect the next episode, or is it just a bug with the stats screen at the end?

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  • Brash SmurfBrash Smurf
    edited May 2012
    So it appears I sided with Larry but Kenny still considers me a good friend.
    My preview has lily saying I didn't side with her dad???
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited May 2012
    The idea has come up elsewhere as well IIRC, but I personally haven't experienced it in four playthroughs. We might need to evaluate the exact options you chose to get a clear idea about why that impression occurs.
  • Brash SmurfBrash Smurf
    edited May 2012
    Let's see I chose

    He wasn't bite
    Reason with him
    What if it was your daughter
    And then No. (where lee says he goes before anybody)
  • Gman5852Gman5852
    edited May 2012
    Brash Smurf wrote: »
    Let's see I chose

    He wasn't bite
    Reason with him
    What if it was your daughter
    And then No. (where lee says he goes before anybody)

    That would be siding with Kenny. Not Larry.
  • XirscheXirsche
    edited May 2012
    bwat47 wrote: »
    I noticed when I finished the first episode, the stats at the ending showed that I sided with larry. I didn't, I told kenny to knock him out. The preview before the stats did reflect that I sides with kenny though. Could this effect the next episode, or is it just a bug with the stats screen at the end?


    As it stands, it could affect how the second episode goes, unless you go back and try something else.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited May 2012
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    That would be siding with Kenny. Not Larry.

    I think so too, but I assume that the problem here was that Brash's statistics screen at the end of the game tried to tell him otherwise. So, even if he told Larry to go to hell, statistics stated that "you and 3% of the other gamers sided with Larry" or something. Was that it?!?
  • Gman5852Gman5852
    edited May 2012
    Vainamoinen wrote: »
    I think so too, but I assume that the problem was that Brash's statistics screen at the end of the game tried to tell him otherwise.

    Yeah, that would probably be the case. If so, then this is a pretty well-known bug that doesn't really seem to effect anything.
  • Brash SmurfBrash Smurf
    edited May 2012
    Yeah I thought I chose kenny too. The preview has me siding with kenny though
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited May 2012
    Sorry, I just HAD to merge that. Two identical threads exactly below each other. ;)
  • bwat47bwat47
    edited May 2012
    Brash Smurf wrote: »
    So it appears I sided with Larry but Kenny still considers me a good friend.
    My preview has lily saying I didn't side with her dad???

    Yeah, in my preview lily is bitching me out because I didn't side with him, but it says I sided with larry in the stats :/

    Vainamoinen wrote: »
    The idea has come up elsewhere as well IIRC, but I personally haven't experienced it in four playthroughs. We might need to evaluate the exact options you chose to get a clear idea about why that impression occurs.

    I can reproduce this, happened in two separate playthroughs. If it helps in both of them I didn't save kenny's kid on the farm (chose shawn), but didn't blame kenny when Hershel got angry. One playthrough I had kenny punch larry, one I stopped larry myself.

    I really hope the preview is what turns out to be accurate in ep2 and not the stat screen. would really ruin the game for me if I end up being forced to side with larry.
  • Gregory HawkeGregory Hawke
    edited May 2012
    Yeah, I have a similar situation. Kenny is buddy buddy with me, I told him to punch Larry in the face, but somehow I sided with Larry. I think it could be that I tried to mediate the situation and didn't immediately back up Kenny. Still... go figure.
  • bwat47bwat47
    edited May 2012
    Played through a THIRD time, did every possible thing to side with kenny, including saving duck on the farm. STILL says I sides with larry at the end.

    Here's what I did this time:
    Saved Duck on the farm
    Stopped larry and defended duck at drug store
    Consoled kenny about what happened on the farm
    Gave duck a candy bar

    Kenny saved me, called me a good friend, and both kenny and katjaa liked me in the preview, but stats says sides with larry.
  • flavaflava
    edited May 2012
    From what I can tell it depends on one answer, the one where the options are "reason with him" and two other things like it's him or duck and something else like that. If you choose the reason with him it doesn't matter what you choose it'll still say you sided with Larry and likewise if you go the other way it'll still say you sided with Kenny. SEems like a bug as the people still react the way they should the stats don't reflect that though. I'd also probably change the reason with him as that isn't entirely clear and makes it seem as if you want to be liberal and reason with Larry that duck hasn't been bitten thus siding with Kenny
  • bwat47bwat47
    edited May 2012
    flava wrote: »
    From what I can tell it depends on one answer, the one where the options are "reason with him" and two other things like it's him or duck and something else like that. If you choose the reason with him it doesn't matter what you choose it'll still say you sided with Larry and likewise if you go the other way it'll still say you sided with Kenny. SEems like a bug as the people still react the way they should the stats don't reflect that though. I'd also probably change the reason with him as that isn't entirely clear and makes it seem as if you want to be liberal and reason with Larry that duck hasn't been bitten thus siding with Kenny

    Yep, I did choose reason with him every time.
  • ComixFanComixFan
    edited May 2012
    I can concur that the stat's glitch seems to stem from the "Reason with him" dialogue option. However, I don't think there is any reason for concern. Taking into account that Kenny comes back for you after Larry Punches you out during the escape and, in the Episode 2 preview, Lily is yelling at you for siding against her father it's clear the glitch won't effect the story or carry over into Episode 2 in any adverse way. When it comes to bugs, it's a minor one and mostly aesthetic.
  • CapApCapAp
    edited May 2012
    Interesting note. I played this game on the Xbox at my friend's house, loved it, and then came home and bought it on PC. I'd already finished it, but wanted to continue further episodes with the same story I'd chosen at my friend's house, so I played an identical game at home. The interesting thing?

    Everything was the same, except that when Kenny put his hand out to pick me up (at the climax), on Xbox he said "I ain't lettin' anyone else get eaten today - we gotta look out for each other!" On PC, he said "I ain't lettin' anyone else get eaten today - even if he is an asshole."

    ?!?!?!

    Now to be honest, the second one seemed a lot more appropriate. In both games, I tried to save Shawn, told Herschel that Kenny had let Shawn die, said "Oh Shit" when Larry claimed Duck was bitten, tried to "reason" with Larry, then Berated Kenny for letting Shawn die. All in all, I wasn't a big fan of Kenny and I wanted him to know that. Playing through on Xbox, I thought it was weird that he would be so friendly after me pretty much being disgusted with him and trying to distance myself the whole game.

    Just thought I'd put this up here for discussion. Frankly, I want Lilly to like me and don't care if Kenny does or not. I'm just a little worried that my Larry/Kenny Tough Choice has left me with NOBODY liking me! :D
  • spawnerspawner
    edited May 2012
    Everything was the same, except that when Kenny put his hand out to pick me up (at the climax), on Xbox he said "I ain't lettin' anyone else get eaten today - we gotta look out for each other!" On PC, he said "I ain't lettin' anyone else get eaten today - even if he is an asshole."


    The thing is interesting to know that maybe different consoles changes a very little bit of the story(like the wording you said).

    When you totally agree or halfway agree with Kenny when larry punches you kenny says: "I ain't lettin' anyone else get eaten today, especially a good friend.

    When you totally disagree or halfway disagree with kenny when larry punches you kenny says: "I ain't lettin' anyone else get eaten today - even if he is an asshole."

    That's basically how it all works out. I know this as I tried ALL the possible outcomes looool
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    also cos the consoles may have a different age rating being an arcade game and so some stuff is censored. and hence the change to remove 'asshole'
  • spawnerspawner
    edited June 2012
    Milosuperspesh wrote: »
    also cos the consoles may have a different age rating being an arcade game and so some stuff is censored. and hence the change to remove 'asshole'

    It couldn't have been censored as the game's rated M for mature so it's for like 17+ to play it. younger than that SUPPOSEDLY aren't even supposed to play the game ;)
  • The_RipperThe_Ripper
    edited June 2012
    Well, there is no a bug, certainly they consider ask for Kenny to reason with Larry siding with Larry. Mmmmh...

    I think Telltale should consider the next choice of answer instead of this one. I mean, threatening Larry it's not siding with him, clearly. Ask for anyone to reason with somebody it's NOT siding with anyone, it's just being reasonable.

    My two cents, of course. I would like to know what thinks a game developer. :)
  • jangjangchangjangjangchang
    edited June 2012
    The_Ripper wrote: »
    Well, there is no a bug, certainly they consider ask for Kenny to reason with Larry siding with Larry. Mmmmh...

    I think Telltale should consider the next choice of answer instead of this one. I mean, threatening Larry it's not siding with him, clearly. Ask for anyone to reason with somebody it's NOT siding with anyone, it's just being reasonable.

    My two cents, of course. I would like to know what thinks a game developer. :)

    You chose to reason with a man trying to kill a kid before getting aggressive. That's trying to stay neutral which doesn't work in this world.
  • Web HeadWeb Head
    edited June 2012
    I know somebody who's age is 10 and plays the game perfectly lol..
  • spawnerspawner
    edited June 2012
    Web Head wrote: »
    I know somebody who's age is 10 and plays the game perfectly lol..

    get him banned then hehehe xD ;) :p
  • SilencerStevenSilencerSteven
    edited June 2012
    yeah I thought it was just a ending stat glitch but when I played ep2 Kenny mentioned I wanted to toss his kid to the walkers when that never happened. I had to rewind ep1 and not put "we reason with him" and got fixed but I liked the "we reason with him" choice because the other 2 were aggresive and at the time we were all strangers but whatever lol
  • The Real JayblesThe Real Jaybles
    edited June 2012
    Brash Smurf wrote: »
    So it appears I sided with Larry but Kenny still considers me a good friend.
    My preview has lily saying I didn't side with her dad???

    Well there are different instances when you can side with kenny, I saved shawn (with the 2 by 4), then told Hershel not to blame Kenny (You always save your own kids first, like you wouldn't...), tried to negotiate with Larry (Counts as not siding with Kenny) but then standing up for not throwing out Duck on the street.

    And when Kenny came to the rescue he still counted me as a friend so it's goes to show you don't have to blindly follow him or stand by him, it's a tough zombie infested world out there and sometimes he needs to stand up for himself and wage his own battles!
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