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Will Lee die at the end?

DarthchairDarthchair
edited October 2012 in The Walking Dead
The Walking Dead game seems to be part of the comic series canon. At least in the sense that it is explaining certain things (how Shawn got into the barn for instance) that happened in the comics, along with some character background. So I got to thinking...the comics are going to continue on with not a single ending in sight, but The Walking Dead game has a definitive ending. Right? I mean TTG has said that they have plans for five episodes.

I suppose they could have a kind of ambiguous ending, but I'm wondering if it would be a more emotional and closing factor to just simply kill off Lee in a kind of heroic sacrifice (or perhaps not if you play him as a jerk).

We know that Kirkman has said that the series would still continue if he killed Rick off. Is it possible that ultimately Lee is going to meet his demise by the end of the 5th episode?

Be interesting to hear your thoughts. :) Although I guess you could always have Lee die permanently in the first 5/10 minutes of the game and never restart it. LOL.
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  • SrslyYo?SrslyYo?
    edited June 2012
    Since there are many different ways to play, I'm sure the selection of endings should be interesting. Unless it's just one basic ending for all choices, but I doubt that would happen.

    I'm honestly hoping a slight range of ending. Perhaps Lee dies as a hero. Perhaps he sacrifices everyone and gets away alone.

    I am using when you talk to Kenny and he says something about that boat. Lee does remember that. Perhaps that is a clue to where the ending may be headed?( Location wise anyways)

    Perhaps he steals the boat and him and Clem get away, pushing Kenny and his family into the water lol. The possibilities are entertaining to the mind.
  • BalltoBallto
    edited June 2012
    In the "Playing Dead" Video interviews someone asks about there being a second season, (close to what your asking). To which one of the writers comments more or less saying, "We haven't come up with a definite ending yet, but we know for certain when we do we will leave it open to a second season."

    So to answer your question... No idea on if Lee Dies or not BUT... there will likely be a second season, so there is no definitive end yet.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    Lee Will be as Dead as Billy Cohen
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Lee Will be as Dead as Billy Cohen

    This....and then..

    Fades to black

    hears gun shot...
  • DarthchairDarthchair
    edited June 2012
    I think it'll be interesting to see where the game takes off. It has to be weird doing a game that is a small part of an ongoing series. The TV series can end whenever it wants cause it is deviating from the original plot, but this one seems to be a companion piece to the original.

    If they don't kill Lee...it might be intriguing to see him explore a totally different part of the United States entirely in a season 2.

    Course I wonder if the Governor kills him...could explain how Lilly joins the Governor. Hmm.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    Darthchair wrote: »
    I think it'll be interesting to see where the game takes off. It has to be weird doing a game that is a small part of an ongoing series. The TV series can end whenever it wants cause it is deviating from the original plot, but this one seems to be a companion piece to the original.

    If they don't kill Lee...it might be intriguing to see him explore a totally different part of the United States entirely in a season 2.

    Course I wonder if the Governor kills him...could explain how Lilly joins the Governor. Hmm.

    or lee kills larry and she leaves in a big huff/ hissy fit...
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited June 2012
    I wouldn't bet against any one of the characters waking up dead.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    Irishmile wrote: »
    I wouldn't bet against any one of the characters waking up dead.

    if they dead they won't wake up ;) lol

    zombies are not awake...
  • DrewsieferDrewsiefer
    edited June 2012
    It's very possible he could die in the end. Also, another thing to keep in mind is that (if memory serves right) Clem's parents were at some sort of a docking place when they went on their trip. I feel like the ending is going to end up there, not only because that's where Kenny's boat is but Clem might see her parents.

    Now this could lead to her breakdown and her running for her parents. I personally think it'd be interesting to see her run for her mother, even if she knows she's a zombie, then Lee trying to pull her away only to be bitten by Clem's mom.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited June 2012
    I'm hoping for a few significantly different endings, including the deaths of main characters. The kind of thing that would actually make your choices throughout 5 episodes meaningful.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    In the Final Episode you will die no matter what if you drank the water in episode 1. Noone will see it coming... except now cause ya know were talking about it
  • JonathanEFearnJonathanEFearn
    edited June 2012
    Lee will not die in the end. Maybe in the middle but the game will ask if you want to reload back to the last save point. :p

    And if things revert... Did it really happen? *Cue Twilight Zone introduction*
  • DarthchairDarthchair
    edited June 2012
    It would be interesting, poignant, and slightly cruel if Clem does get bitten (unavoidably like Shawn's demise) and you have to make a choice to kill her or let her go. I would imagine this infected Clem wouldn't manifest itself until the proverbial "shit hits the fan" in which case the player forgets about her just long enough to see her attack Lee.

    Dun dun dun.

    Would be interesting then to see if Lee follows suit with what he did with that religious girl in Episode 1...and commits suicide. Kind of a twisted sort of version of "family" if you can choose to have Lee become a zombie and kind of stay with Clem in this weird undead sort of mother/daughter relationship.

    But that's probably just going overboard.

    I can see Lee dying though. But I also agree that if he does...it would probably be in some sort of dramatic, heroic manner that provides closure to his overall troubled storyline.

    And also the option to have him kind of do something selfish and rather ridiculous that would ultimately cause the downfall of others as well. It would be interesting to play the role of a Lee that has been bitten and is growing sicker and sicker, perhaps trying to hide it from Clem and others (factoring in how much the survivors trust you?) as you try to establish the conclusion of the plot.
  • DildorDildor
    edited June 2012
    Usually the black guy is the first to go. Telltale is breaking all the rules with this game.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited June 2012
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    I'm hoping for a few significantly different endings, including the deaths of main characters. The kind of thing that would actually make your choices throughout 5 episodes meaningful.

    It would be right up the zombie genre conventions. But a bit cheap and predictable, don't you think? If Lee has to choose his life or Clem's at the end, isn't this just another Jurassic Park ending?

    But it's decided already anyway. Lee dies at the end of episode 4 and we'll control Clementine in episode 5. :D :D :D
  • GoldrockGoldrock
    edited June 2012
    Considering the game all based on choices and is multipathed to that concept the very end will problably have both where lee can survive or he dies.
  • DildorDildor
    edited June 2012
    Goldrock wrote: »
    Considering the game all based on choices and is multipathed to that concept the very end will problably have both where lee can survive or he dies.


    Careful, TTG might end up funneling us into 3 convoluted choices where Lee dies in all of them... except for the 3rd ending where you sacrifice Duck and Clem, but at the end you can see Lee take a breath before the screen goes black.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    then again regardless of all the claims of doing it better than mass effect

    ttg will be working on ep5 and while looking at the story arc's and choice tree's:

    they'll take a marker pen and cross out most of them so what all we could be left with is

    lee channeling rick or hershal good ending

    lee channeling shane / the guvnor bad ending

    even then i'd say lee/clem/kenny/duck carly or doug will be left all the new extras will of been killed or eaten or leave (lilly/glenn)

    i hope they don't but thats what i'm expecting
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited June 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    In the Final Episode you will die no matter what if you drank the water in episode 1. Noone will see it coming... except now cause ya know were talking about it

    Rewriting the ending to be this.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    Jake wrote: »
    Rewriting the ending to be this.

    lol i knew it !!
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    Dildor wrote: »
    Careful, TTG might end up funneling us into 3 convoluted choices where Lee dies in all of them... except for the 3rd ending where you sacrifice Duck and Clem, but at the end you can see Lee take a breath before the screen goes black.

    or maybe they'll show clem and lee sitting side by side overlooking a sunset with Lee badly Injured

    Clementine: Lee We did it.
    Lee: Yes we did.. we both did.. it's quite a view
    Clementine: Best seats in the house
    Lee: God feels like years since i last set down
    Clementine: I think you've earned a rest.
    Lee: You ever think how our lives would be diffrent if this hadn't happened?.
    Clementine: I'd be in second grade now.
    Lee: I never had a family never had children. Your the closest thing i've ever had to a daughter Clem. If I ever had a daughter I'd hope she'd be just like you.
    Clementine: I'm not that special Lee i've made mistakes.
    Lee: Your parents would be proud of you. I'm Proud of you. You did good Clem. You did good.
    Clementine: Lee?
    *Silence*
    Clementine: Lee?!
    *Clementine looks over and sees Lees dead and starts crying. then gets up and steps a few feet away before Lee reanimates and shoots him in the head.*
  • DildorDildor
    edited June 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    or maybe they'll show clem and lee sitting side by side overlooking a sunset with Lee badly Injured

    Clementine: Lee We did it.
    Lee: Yes we did.. we both did.. it's quite a view
    Clementine: Best seats in the house
    Lee: God feels like years since i last set down
    Clementine: I think you've earned a rest.
    Lee: You ever think how our lives would be diffrent if this hadn't happened?.
    Clementine: I'd be in second grade now.
    Lee: I never had a family never had children. Your the closest thing i've ever had to a daughter Clem. If I ever had a daughter I'd hope she'd be just like you.
    Clementine: I'm not that special Lee i've made mistakes.
    Lee: Your parents would be proud of you. I'm Proud of you. You did good Clem. You did good.
    Clementine: Lee?
    *Silence*
    Clementine: Lee?!
    *Clementine looks over and sees Lees dead and starts crying. then gets up and steps a few feet away before Lee reanimates and shoots him in the head.*

    My sides are splitting from that. Take notes tell tale! :D That played like a movie in my head.
    It was victorious and uplifting.
  • toothiersnowtoothiersnow
    edited June 2012
    Lee doug clem and kenny are left as a thousand zombies appear on the horizon, doug and kenny opt for the easy way out and take a bullet to the brain each SQUISH you turn and face clementine and seeing the fear on her face you decide there is only one option, you hold her close and tell her it will be ok, you wont let them get her, you close your eyes tight and pull thentrigger, her body goes limp in your arms, your eyes fill with tears knowing you couldnt save the first grader and you are about to be ripped to shreds by the undead, you turn to face them and scream at the top of your lungs, no words, just pure primal rage.

    Suddenly gun fire.

    Suddenly engines.

    The army appears over the ridge and is cutting through the zombies like a ligtsabre throug an ewok, you are saved! Life can return to normal! The smile drops from your face and you slowly turn to see the lifeless body of the girl you could not save before you.

    Fade to black.
  • DildorDildor
    edited June 2012
    toothiersnow wrote: »
    The army appears over the ridge and is cutting through the zombies like a ligtsabre throug an ewok, you are saved! Life can return to normal! The smile drops from your face and you slowly turn to see the lifeless body of the girl you could not save before you.

    Fade to black.

    Yeah, I've seen The Mist.
  • toothiersnowtoothiersnow
    edited June 2012
    Shit film aint it lol
  • toothiersnowtoothiersnow
    edited June 2012
    Though it does have two actors who are in the walking dead tv show in it!
  • DildorDildor
    edited June 2012
    toothiersnow wrote: »
    Though it does have two actors who are in the walking dead tv show in it!

    Mind.... blown. :eek::eek::eek::eek:
  • toothiersnowtoothiersnow
    edited June 2012
    i had to imdb to double check but it has dale and carol in it, dale ends up getting shot in the car at the end and carol ends up surviving with her children (for a change)

    oh feck, andrea is in it as well, so thats 3
  • The_RipperThe_Ripper
    edited June 2012
    toothiersnow wrote: »
    i had to imdb to double check but it has dale and carol in it, dale ends up getting shot in the car at the end and carol ends up surviving with her children (for a change)

    oh feck, andrea is in it as well, so thats 3

    I'ts not weird. It's well known that Frank Darabont's friends usually works on the projects which Darabont it's involved.

    Do you think Dale's death on the show was an idea from the show writers and producers? They fired Frank and the actor playing Dale said he didn't want to stay in this project anymore for what they did to his friend Frank.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited June 2012
    Jake wrote: »
    Rewriting the ending to be this.

    Oh good, there will be a moral at the end.
  • DarthchairDarthchair
    edited June 2012
    Hey kids...don't drink the kool-aid!

    Man...I keep having these weird endings in my head.

    You have the Neon Genesis Evangelion ending:

    Congratulations, Lee! You did it!
    Yeah! Congratulations!
    Congratulations, Lee!
    Zomg! Congrats! It was totally worth it!


    And you have the Metal Gear Solid Ending where you die/become a zombie.

    LEE? LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
  • SrslyYo?SrslyYo?
    edited June 2012
    Watch it be like Dawn of the Dead ending. The surviving people get into the boat. Go off to an island. " Oh god! We are safe now!" Everyone gets off the boat and BAM! Tons of Zombies come running out of the trees and the screen goes black to the sounds of gunshots and everyone screaming.

    Also, that water thing. Is a great idea. I makes me want to replay the first episode to make a " drink the water" and a " not drink the water" story set ups. Just in case.
  • DarthchairDarthchair
    edited June 2012
    You know...I refuse to watch the credits of Dawn of the Dead. Totally not the way I wanted it to end and I suffered denial. But what a slick way to toss out the "real ending" eh? People can't complain too much if they deny the credits exist, but the "true" fans will of course know their true fate. I can live with not being a true fan though.

    I do have a feeling that Lee is going to end up alone whenever his story is finished (first five or perhaps in a second season).

    Or at least that will probably be one playthrough. Whether it be a sacrifice or because no one can stand you and you are exiled from the group...I think Lee will end up alone by the end of the story to accept his "destiny."

    However...to play the flip-side...

    What about if he lives. How should he survive the ending? Does he find a happy little island somewhere? Does he end up on some kind of sea barge?

    It would be kind of interesting if he ended up in some community...safe (temporarily?) and ended up as a character in the comic books. Kirkman could have already planned this out. And it makes a bit more sense to me if he isn't going to be killed off.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    SrslyYo? wrote: »
    Watch it be like Dawn of the Dead ending. The surviving people get into the boat. Go off to an island. " Oh god! We are safe now!" Everyone gets off the boat and BAM! Tons of Zombies come running out of the trees and the screen goes black to the sounds of gunshots and everyone screaming.

    Also, that water thing. Is a great idea. I makes me want to replay the first episode to make a " drink the water" and a " not drink the water" story set ups. Just in case.

    thought you'd played ep1 already ?
  • SrslyYo?SrslyYo?
    edited June 2012
    Milosuperspesh wrote: »
    thought you'd played ep1 already ?

    I did. A few times. I just honestly didn't pay any attention to the water. Never crossed my mind. I got him to drink it every time because he says he is thirsty. But now I see that is how they get you. I'm one of those people who play games and do stuff for no reason. IE. Flush all the toliets, turn on all the sinks. I usually want something cool to come from those things, but it never does. Therefore I just thought drinking the water was just something extra.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    well yeah it could be purely innocent because lee is thirsty


    but they fact that a) lee mentions he's thirsty and thus makes the player seek out refreshment

    B) assuming tap water in a plastic cup would be something clem was doing to survive, or having it there for lee to use

    c)spoiler ish lee doesn't mention being thirsty again if you DON'T drink it..
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    SrslyYo? wrote: »
    I did. A few times. I just honestly didn't pay any attention to the water. Never crossed my mind. I got him to drink it every time because he says he is thirsty. But now I see that is how they get you. I'm one of those people who play games and do stuff for no reason. IE. Flush all the toliets, turn on all the sinks. I usually want something cool to come from those things, but it never does. Therefore I just thought drinking the water was just something extra.

    Searching the captains desk 50 times in the police station that type of thing?
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited June 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Searching the captains desk 50 times in the police station that type of thing?

    lol or pressing the button cole trains cereal box advert ?
  • SrslyYo?SrslyYo?
    edited June 2012
    If I was just in a car accident and then chased by zombies, I probably would be thirsty too.

    And yeah Cap. I really suck at playing games like Fallout or anything that has a lot of stuff to pick up. I'm a video game hoarder. I gather allllll the items. I swear when I play Diablo I have to go to town every five minutes lol.

    It's like a really awful, time consuming, habit.
  • DarthchairDarthchair
    edited June 2012
    Lee has some pretty outstanding pockets I guess.
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