First of all a car battery can last a couple of hours, depending on the age of the battery. And this is with the engine turn off.
Since everything in episode 2 occurred in one day you may be on to something.
In addition to that, don't forget she also had a child in the same age as Clem. And in the car they found a hoodie same size as Clem.
I personally think that whoever owned the car is long gone.
The doors were left open, and the light was on, but when Lee goes to start the car, it is out of gas. The car was most likely abandoned, along with a large supply of food because a small group wouldn't have been able to haul it around.
It will be interesting to see, however, if the owner of the car is still alive, and will be able to recognize that we raided the car by recognizing the sweater we give to Clem (if you give it to her).
It will be interesting to see, however, if the owner of the car is still alive, and will be able to recognize that we raided the car by recognizing the sweater we give to Clem (if you give it to her).
Yeah, that's the only reason I had for not looting the car.
Also the battery wasn't dead so it couldn't have been abandoned for too long.
@Dildor, I agree that the car is only recently abandoned, but the point I was trying to make is that I believe it was purposeful, and that the owners probably had no intention of returning to claim whatever they left in it.
That's true, they were out of gas. It's still weird that they didn't bring the food with them though, so I'm going to continue doubting it's abandoned. It's possible something bad went down and they died/had to ditch the car and run.
There were three boxes of food, and a small box of supplies. It's possible that there could have been more, and the owners of the car took everything that they could carry, leaving behind what they couldn't.
And I think if something bad happened that they ditched the car, it makes it even less likely that they would be able to return to claim their stuff.
maybe they're surrounded right now by walkers or hiding from bandits and the daughter is like "mom dad what about the car and supplies." and dad's like "Don't worry sweetheart its in the middle of the woods it'll be there when we get back"
maybe they're surrounded right now by walkers or hiding from bandits and the daughter is like "mom dad what about the car and supplies." and dad's like "Don't worry sweetheart its in the middle of the woods it'll be there when we get back"
maybe they're surrounded right now by walkers or hiding from bandits and the daughter is like "mom dad what about the car and supplies." and dad's like "Don't worry sweetheart its in the middle of the woods it'll be there when we get back"
They left it in the middle of the road, not the woods. They didn't even try to hide it - they left the doors open, the keys in the car, and the lights on.
They purposefully abandoned it - whether in haste because of an emergency, or planned, I think it's painfully obvious they are not coming back for it.
I really think it was one of those decisions that influences Clementine as opposed to future gameplay (she obviously is disappointed in you if you decide to take the items).
Maybe Clementine will steal something from Duck and think it's ok since they stole from the car
I think it's going to be hard to explain certain things to her.
For example, why you feel it was okay to take the items from the car. I can rationalize it here, but I can't tell Clem all of these things in the game. Even if I could, would she understand it? She's a very smart, but she's still only eight years old.
I try to be as uniform as possible when making my decisions, but I think I may have already messed up. For example, I told her that the man I killed was a very bad man, but I didn't kill the St. John brothers (who were DEFINITELY bad men).
i like to believe that there will basically be several hundred diffrent potential clementines by the end of the game kinda like in princess maker which is a kickass game even for guys about raising an adopted daughter and your decisions determine what she grows up to be.
maybe they ran from the walkers heading to the farm, at first it reminded me of the car the family had that left the group in the first season of the show when they were heading into the city they were going to find there famliy
at the end doug showed us the footage on the cam corder and it showed a clip with the crazy lady stomping something in a car, is that the same car you find at the end?
But if it was the lights have been on for a hell of a long time. idk but i was just thinking
:P
Thoughts?:)
when she drops the camera you can clearly see its in the tent at her camp... its just upside down
They left it in the middle of the road, not the woods. They didn't even try to hide it - they left the doors open, the keys in the car, and the lights on.
They purposefully abandoned it - whether in haste because of an emergency, or planned, I think it's painfully obvious they are not coming back for it...
I agree with this. If you plan on coming back to it, you wouldn't leave the doors open and lights on. Even if you left in a hurry for some emergency it doesn't take much time to close a car door. Gotta keep that battery alive if you plan on using that car again.
Though even with an old battery you'll get a few hours out of it with the engine off. I had a Walmart battery in my car for 6+ years (it was the battery it came with when I bought the car, 3+ years past the date on the sticker) and only died because I crashed it and had my hazard lights on for about 5 hours before my car was towed. It died after that but even when I had my car back, I charged the battery and it worked for a few hours at a time.
The car was definitely abandoned. Whoever the well-equipped survivor was, I tend to assume that they were bitten and at some point felt they weren't going to make it, stopped the car and shuffled off to die. That or the car ran out of fuel, walkers closed in and they had to leave in a hurry.
Either way the state of the car and the fact that no one comes to claim it while they're making all that noise around the car leaves very little doubt. Also you can convince Clem to accept that taking the stuff is necessary (like the hoodie) by saying "We're not like the bandits".
...Also you can convince Clem to accept that taking the stuff is necessary (like the hoodie) by saying "We're not like the bandits".
Yep, we're not like the bandits because we didn't hurt anyone for this stuff. Although, if the people originally in posession of the car came back and all their stuff was gone, that would hurt. But I really do feel as if the car was abandoned.
Yep, we're not like the bandits because we didn't hurt anyone for this stuff. Although, if the people originally in posession of the car came back and all their stuff was gone, that would hurt. But I really do feel as if the car was abandoned.
Sadly, you can give Clem your reasons, but you can't make her truly understand it. An eight year old sees you taking stuff that belongs to someone else, and you tell her that it's ok. That is really going to shape her world view, at least until she is old enough to understand the subtle differences between you and the bandits.
Sadly, you can give Clem your reasons, but you can't make her truly understand it. An eight year old sees you taking stuff that belongs to someone else, and you tell her that it's ok. That is really going to shape her world view, at least until she is old enough to understand the subtle differences between you and the bandits.
I understand what you mean, but when I was 8 I also believed in "Finders-Keepers" which is a lot harsher than taking something to survive. Maybe we should ask some real 8 year old kids what they think.
I understand what you mean, but when I was 8 I also believed in "Finders-Keepers" which is a lot harsher than taking something to survive. Maybe we should ask some real 8 year old kids what they think.
Lol, I think that is exactly how Clem will internalize it - which is why I was saying you can explain it to her, but she won't exactly understand.
When you're eight, things are much more black and white.
The car was definitely abandoned. Whoever the well-equipped survivor was, I tend to assume that they were bitten and at some point felt they weren't going to make it, stopped the car and shuffled off to die. That or the car ran out of fuel, walkers closed in and they had to leave in a hurry.
The car was definitely out of fuel (you can see the needle is on E), so I think your second scenario is most likely what happened.
I don't believe the owners left of their own accordance with as much stuff as they could carry, because I really doubt they would have left the door open and the key in the ignition if that were the case. And I'm certain it wasn't the bandits who ran them off, because otherwise they would have helped themselves to the supplies.
Still, I'm not convinced that this incident is over.
Say the owners run from the walkers, manage to loose them in the woods, then double back to get their supplies only to find they have been taken. Despite the loss of their stuff they manage to survive (albeit in much in a much more desperate state) long enough to bump into Lee's group and then they see Clementine wearing a very familiar looking Brooklyn hoodie.
the car belonged to people heading back to woodbury when the group gets there they realize what they done thats why kenny says we can fix this and lillys mad because she didnt what to take the stuff now they might not get in
As someone pointed out before, the battery had been keeping the lights and door chime on suggesting it had been recently abandoned. Not saying impossible, just not likely.
I'm not sure that the car had been recently abandoned. I think the following happened:
-The passangers of the car had to stop and leave car immediately. They left the doors open, the lights on, and left the engine running. I got no clue what was the cause to stop and leave the car, but with the engine running the battery won't die until there's fuel in the tank. The group found the car a couple of hours after the engine run out of fuel but it could have been even a day earlier when the car had been abandoned.
The reason for emergency stop of the car could'nt have been a bandit ambush, it's more likely that walkers forced them to stop somehow. Human attackers wouldn't left a car full with food and supplies. Against the zombie-attack theory: no blood and other hints of fighting against walkers.
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Since everything in episode 2 occurred in one day you may be on to something.
In addition to that, don't forget she also had a child in the same age as Clem. And in the car they found a hoodie same size as Clem.
or it just be as simple as a prepared survivor got bit or killed himself
The doors were left open, and the light was on, but when Lee goes to start the car, it is out of gas. The car was most likely abandoned, along with a large supply of food because a small group wouldn't have been able to haul it around.
It will be interesting to see, however, if the owner of the car is still alive, and will be able to recognize that we raided the car by recognizing the sweater we give to Clem (if you give it to her).
Yeah, that's the only reason I had for not looting the car.
Also the battery wasn't dead so it couldn't have been abandoned for too long.
The guy needs to eat more fiber if his dump takes long enough to make his car run out of gas...:D
And I think if something bad happened that they ditched the car, it makes it even less likely that they would be able to return to claim their stuff.
They left it in the middle of the road, not the woods. They didn't even try to hide it - they left the doors open, the keys in the car, and the lights on.
They purposefully abandoned it - whether in haste because of an emergency, or planned, I think it's painfully obvious they are not coming back for it.
I really think it was one of those decisions that influences Clementine as opposed to future gameplay (she obviously is disappointed in you if you decide to take the items).
I think it's going to be hard to explain certain things to her.
For example, why you feel it was okay to take the items from the car. I can rationalize it here, but I can't tell Clem all of these things in the game. Even if I could, would she understand it? She's a very smart, but she's still only eight years old.
I try to be as uniform as possible when making my decisions, but I think I may have already messed up. For example, I told her that the man I killed was a very bad man, but I didn't kill the St. John brothers (who were DEFINITELY bad men).
when she drops the camera you can clearly see its in the tent at her camp... its just upside down
I agree with this. If you plan on coming back to it, you wouldn't leave the doors open and lights on. Even if you left in a hurry for some emergency it doesn't take much time to close a car door. Gotta keep that battery alive if you plan on using that car again.
Though even with an old battery you'll get a few hours out of it with the engine off. I had a Walmart battery in my car for 6+ years (it was the battery it came with when I bought the car, 3+ years past the date on the sticker) and only died because I crashed it and had my hazard lights on for about 5 hours before my car was towed. It died after that but even when I had my car back, I charged the battery and it worked for a few hours at a time.
Lee picks up the Camera in the camp, and later gives it to Doug/Carly hoping that they will be able to use it.
Either way the state of the car and the fact that no one comes to claim it while they're making all that noise around the car leaves very little doubt. Also you can convince Clem to accept that taking the stuff is necessary (like the hoodie) by saying "We're not like the bandits".
Yep, we're not like the bandits because we didn't hurt anyone for this stuff. Although, if the people originally in posession of the car came back and all their stuff was gone, that would hurt. But I really do feel as if the car was abandoned.
Sadly, you can give Clem your reasons, but you can't make her truly understand it. An eight year old sees you taking stuff that belongs to someone else, and you tell her that it's ok. That is really going to shape her world view, at least until she is old enough to understand the subtle differences between you and the bandits.
I understand what you mean, but when I was 8 I also believed in "Finders-Keepers" which is a lot harsher than taking something to survive. Maybe we should ask some real 8 year old kids what they think.
Lol, I think that is exactly how Clem will internalize it - which is why I was saying you can explain it to her, but she won't exactly understand.
When you're eight, things are much more black and white.
Oh I see, thanks. And did the video reveal any important information besides how the lady was a creeper?
The car was definitely out of fuel (you can see the needle is on E), so I think your second scenario is most likely what happened.
I don't believe the owners left of their own accordance with as much stuff as they could carry, because I really doubt they would have left the door open and the key in the ignition if that were the case. And I'm certain it wasn't the bandits who ran them off, because otherwise they would have helped themselves to the supplies.
Still, I'm not convinced that this incident is over.
Say the owners run from the walkers, manage to loose them in the woods, then double back to get their supplies only to find they have been taken. Despite the loss of their stuff they manage to survive (albeit in much in a much more desperate state) long enough to bump into Lee's group and then they see Clementine wearing a very familiar looking Brooklyn hoodie.
I'm not sure that the car had been recently abandoned. I think the following happened:
-The passangers of the car had to stop and leave car immediately. They left the doors open, the lights on, and left the engine running. I got no clue what was the cause to stop and leave the car, but with the engine running the battery won't die until there's fuel in the tank. The group found the car a couple of hours after the engine run out of fuel but it could have been even a day earlier when the car had been abandoned.
The reason for emergency stop of the car could'nt have been a bandit ambush, it's more likely that walkers forced them to stop somehow. Human attackers wouldn't left a car full with food and supplies. Against the zombie-attack theory: no blood and other hints of fighting against walkers.