Can we get a Lee that calls people out on stuff?

edited July 2012 in The Walking Dead
Pretty much what it says on the tin. We already have a Lee that spends more time falling down than Gerald Ford (seriously, it's like Lee has OCD when it comes to proving Sir Isaac Newton right about this whole "gravity" fad). The poor guy already loses every bout of fisticuffs with another living person unless he has someone there to bail him out. Sure, I can understand that since the guy's a college professor (although, his constant failures with the whole "gravity" thing and his inability to remain vertical are harder to explain), but at a minimum he should be able to call people out on hypocrisy, etc. during verbal confrontations. If he's not going to change somebody's opinion, get treated like garbage anyway, etc. atleast let the poor guy respond in kind, it's more satisfying.

For example, Larry never seemed to be aware of the fact that Lee saved his life, simply because the option never comes up. Kenny seems to have frequent bouts of amnesia/bipolar disorder, e.g. he talks down to Lee in Episode 2 for trying to save Shawn, despite the fact that Kenny himself admits that "we could've saved that boy" in Episode 1, likewise, when he jumps on Lee for being a worthless horrible person, there's no "Yeah... I fed your family and outright saved the lives of your wife and kid" option that lets you whack him upside the head with facts.

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  • edited July 2012
    i totally agree

    in the meat locker, after kenny basically murders larry. he has the nerve to tell me to "hurry the fuck up!", i wanted to respond with "eat a dick!" or at least a confrontation option.

    then, when i go to lilly to ask her about the coins. she hits me with "you want permission to loot my fathers body??" lee responds so passively that it sent me into a fury spiral.

    give me my this is a leetatorship options, so i can put these selfish, greedy fucks in check
  • edited July 2012
    Seriously...

    I know that the writer's have a direction for Lee and we're just along for the ride with the exception of a few choices that determine who likes you or not. I really want to jump in there and do what I want to do.

    Damn my better understanding of the zombie apocalypse!
  • dx1dx1
    edited July 2012
    Just play a zombie-themed P&P RPG like "All Flesh must eaten". Make free decisions there and enjoy the interactive b-movie from TTG as what it is.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    I suggested a full on Walking Dead Roleplay but Nooooo noone was interested
  • edited July 2012
    GlockPants wrote: »
    Seriously...

    I know that the writer's have a direction for Lee and we're just along for the ride with the exception of a few choices that determine who likes you or not. I really want to jump in there and do what I want to do.

    Damn my better understanding of the zombie apocalypse!

    I agree with jumping in and doing what I want to do...then again...I wanted to leave the farm right after the eletric fence was some how switched back on. When that happened it was a huge red flag to me.
  • edited July 2012
    Agreed! I'm with marcu5 about setting up a Leetatorship! I want to be sat in the deck chair on top of the RV lording it over my minions instead of Lily! Oh my god I just had a brilliant idea for a sequel!

    Walking Dead Series 2: Frontier Justice!

    *Set scene, your typical western*
    "The dead may walk the earth..."
    *Lee rides on riding a horse and wearing a cowboy hat*
    "But justice, my justice, never dies. My name is Sheriff Professor Lee Everatt..."

    It would be awesome...
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    The boys threw up dozens of red Flags for me. but i watch a lot of horror movies
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Jazzy wrote: »
    Agreed! I'm with marcu5 about setting up a Leetatorship! I want to be sat in the deck chair on top of the RV lording it over my minions instead of Lily! Oh my god I just had a brilliant idea for a sequel!

    Walking Dead Series 2: Frontier Justice!

    *Set scene, your typical western*
    "The dead may walk the earth..."
    *Lee rides on riding a horse and wearing a cowboy hat*
    "But justice, my justice, never dies. My name is Sheriff Professor Lee Everatt..."

    It would be awesome...

    Lee is just the queen's figurehead
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    I suggested a full on Walking Dead Roleplay but Nooooo noone was interested

    That sounds damn cool to me! LOL
  • dx1dx1
    edited July 2012
    Zombieface wrote: »
    That sounds damn cool to me! LOL

    Yeah, to me too.
  • edited July 2012
    dx1 wrote: »
    Yeah, to me too.

    That is an awesome idea and I would definitely take part.
  • edited July 2012
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    For example, Larry never seemed to be aware of the fact that Lee saved his life, simply because the option never comes up. Kenny seems to have frequent bouts of amnesia/bipolar disorder, e.g. he talks down to Lee in Episode 2 for trying to save Shawn, despite the fact that Kenny himself admits that "we could've saved that boy" in Episode 1, likewise, when he jumps on Lee for being a worthless horrible person, there's no "Yeah... I fed your family and outright saved the lives of your wife and kid" option that lets you whack him upside the head with facts.

    You can tell Kenny that you saved his family at the end of EP 2, but he responds by saying he did by killing Larry and not being stuck with a zombie.
  • edited July 2012
    trd84 wrote: »
    You can tell Kenny that you saved his family at the end of EP 2, but he responds by saying he did by killing Larry and not being stuck with a zombie.

    Which made him a dick in my books - they didn't know for sure if Larry was dead. And Lee made a lot of sacrifices for Kaatja and Duck.
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    The boys threw up dozens of red Flags for me. but i watch a lot of horror movies

    Seriously, how could anyone not notice tons and tons of suspicious behavior from these guys. While playing I must've said to my wife four times that I don't trust these damned farmers.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    I presume that Lee will be more or less the group's leader anyway. Lilly is pretty much incapacitated due to
    the death of her father
    while Kenny is
    shot of course
    . Let's see where this goes. Lee could be a bit more up front in any case though. ;)
  • edited July 2012
    Yeah I was a little disappointed when it came to the dialouge options concerning the eletric fense situation. I wish Lee would have just came out and said "WHY THE FUCK DID TURN IT BACK ON?! YOU KNEW WE WERE OUT THERE!"
  • edited July 2012
    Zombieface wrote: »
    That sounds damn cool to me! LOL
    What exactly do you mean by roleplay? Sounds interesting... :)

    On topic: There should be opportunities where Lee is more aggressive and confident... I like to play Lee as a tough guy but with such personality contrasting with his affection for children... So he takes care of Clementine, and Duck but he has no patience regarding bandits and what not...
  • edited July 2012
    Yeah I was a little disappointed when it came to the dialouge options concerning the eletric fense situation. I wish Lee would have just came out and said "WHY THE FUCK DID TURN IT BACK ON?! YOU KNEW WE WERE OUT THERE!"

    Well, that does kinda come up. Lee points out that the fence came back on, which pinned between the fence and the bandits, then we get a weak excuse from Andy about how he heard us yell and assumed that was an all clear to turn it back on.

    Of course, you can't call them out on that... since not only is that a lame idea of an "all clear", but the fence was turned back on immediately before the attack or any yelling.

    I don't expect Lee to start oozing so much snark that he drowns people with it, but I would start calling people out on their crap. As it stands Lee comes across as folding when any confrontation (physical or verbal) comes up. The guy's just been standing there and taking everybody's crap for two episodes.

    The meat locker was such a wasted oppurtunity, would've been a great time for Lee to step up and be assertive, especially with Kenny: "Either help with Larry/finding a way out of here, or go put on your dunce cap, sit in the corner quietly and stay the hell out of my way."
  • edited July 2012
    Does anyone else think that Lee is staying quite to protect his identity? I feel if the group finds out who he is, the survivors would likely go their separate ways.
  • edited July 2012
    This has probably been avoided for story purposes. How long could a Lee that acts like a jerk really stay in a group already full of alpha personalities? Before long it'd be just he, Clem, Ben, and whoever you saved.
    Though, I think that'd be a brave way to go so let's see it TT!
  • edited July 2012
    I presume that Lee will be more or less the group's leader anyway. Lilly is pretty much incapacitated due to
    the death of her father
    while Kenny is
    shot of course
    . Let's see where this goes. Lee could be a bit more up front in any case though. ;)

    I was surprised it became a Lilly vs Kenny situation. I was expecting it to be a Lee vs Lilly thing. It seemed that Lee took control of things in episode one, and she looked annoyed at Lee at the end when he motioned her to stay out of it when Glenn was saying he was leaving.

    And it seemed I took control of things in episode 2 as well.
  • edited July 2012
    Well at the end of episode one Kenny was the one barking out orders telling everyone what they needed to do, so I wasn't the least bit surprised.
  • edited July 2012
    Lee's basically Commander Riker to Kenny/Lilly's Captain Picard. Kenny and Lilly look after the ship and put Lee in charge of the away missions.
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