Meat Locker Dilemma

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  • edited August 2012
    right, thanks. edited. Kenny, Larry...got them mixed up.
  • edited August 2012
    That's the thing. When you administer CPR to Larry if timed properly you'll actually see him start to breath again before Kenny kills him. You in fact actually managed to save him before cowardly Ken drops the block on him. That title is furthered by when I have a gun pointed at my face and I'm fighting for my life, and he just sits there and watches; it has to be Lily who steps in.
  • edited August 2012
    Valeris wrote: »
    That's the thing. When you administer CPR to Larry if timed properly you'll actually see him start to breath again before Kenny kills him. You in fact actually managed to save him before cowardly Ken drops the block on him. That title is furthered by when I have a gun pointed at my face and I'm fighting for my life, and he just sits there and watches; it has to be Lily who steps in.

    larry is dead he doesn't come back it is just a reflex from the cpr...
  • edited August 2012
    larry is dead he doesn't come back it is just a reflex from the cpr...

    He quite clearly does wake up.
    As for the supposed choice, you could have just waited a couple of seconds to see if he's ok, if he's zombiefied, then you smash his head in. It's hardly difficult.
  • edited August 2012
    nope he doesn't!!

    for the millseconds that this 'movement' lasts .

    all these 'he is alive believers' are being fooled by their own minds as the brain/imagination fills in the gaps.

    if a ttg person confirms it then i'll shut up but till then your all crazy..

    in theory larry should of been moving for all the cpr moves not just that 'last one'

    i do see how you nutters think this way but it isn't!

    if he was awake his eyes would open and he could of made a noice/moan/groan.

    but he didn't so he's kaput/expired/ dead/ popped his cloggs..

    as for holding off on ending larry, that idea would render this whole topic and the choice to help lilly or help kenny MOOT as fuck...
  • edited August 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    He quite clearly does wake up.
    As for the supposed choice, you could have just waited a couple of seconds to see if he's ok, if he's zombiefied, then you smash his head in. It's hardly difficult.

    His lip twitches.

    That's a sign in CPR that circulation might have resumed, but not that he has "waken up".
  • edited August 2012
    if a ttg person confirms it then i'll shut up but till then your all crazy... if he was awake his eyes would open and he could of made a noice/moan/groan.

    I think the point of the twitch was to cast doubt either way, you're not supposed to know if you made the "right" decision. There wasn't a right decision. One way or another, dear old Larry would have made noise, either alive or zombified, before he was so rudely interrupted.
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    edited August 2012
    I'm not letting Kenny get anywhere near Clem that's for damn sure.
  • edited August 2012
    if a ttg person confirms it then i'll shut up

    I'm pretty sure someone from TTG did comfirm it my man.
  • edited August 2012
    They confirmed that it was meant to be ambiguous.

    I don't know anything about CPR, but I've worked with corpses (long story). I don't think his ragdolling should have been as intense as Milo implies. Maybe a living person will jerk when you shove their diaphragm, but I don't think there was much going on in Larry at the time.

    Unless Milo has resuscitated people before, living and dead, then this is all MOOT as fuck.
  • edited August 2012
    I have never heard of CPR resuscitating a person whose heart has stopped. You need defibrillators, nurses, cardiac drugs and all the emergency equipment, as well as an ICU to give the patient a fighting chance.

    The only thing that CPR does is that it keeps oxygenated blood flowing to the brain to prevent brain death until emergency medical care is available. So, in theory, Larry was not dead. He could be kept alive as long as someone did CPR on him. In theory.

    I helped Lilly because I refuse to give up on our own, even though Larry was a weak link. Now, in fact, I will support Lilly as the leader as her Achilles Heel is no longer a problem and she has no more reasons for favoritism. Kenny would sacrifice the entire group for his family and in my book that disqualifies him for leadership.
  • edited August 2012
    i was a st johns amubulance cadet/first aider so yes i have done cpr/abc

    which can revive people but as chaz says it keeps the person 'alive' till the professionals turn up..

    and the dummies i practised on do move ;)

    also to take this topic in a new direction larry could be considered akin to schroedingers cat in the box...
  • edited August 2012
    one of two things would happen if kenny haven't killed Larry

    1-He would be alive and saying something bad about you and everyone else.
    2-He would have become a zombie and you would have to deal with him.

    either way...doesn't matter know, the damage is done.
    Many people posted that he would not be able to live again without medical equipment(aka...defibrilator)
    but thats the point...I don't know that.Lee didn't know that and neither did Kenny...maybe lilly did because of her past and all... Even if is certain that he would die, what kenny did is not gonna be forgotten by anyone...

    what im saying is...the problem is not hat happened, is what will happen from now on.

    Edit: "schroedingers cat in the box..." that's pretty much sums it up
  • edited August 2012
    They confirmed that it was meant to be ambiguous.

    I don't know anything about CPR, but I've worked with corpses (long story). I don't think his ragdolling should have been as intense as Milo implies. Maybe a living person will jerk when you shove their diaphragm, but I don't think there was much going on in Larry at the time.

    Unless Milo has resuscitated people before, living and dead, then this is all MOOT as fuck.

    If you are giving someone CPR properly, you should break their ribs under the pressure, it also has a terrible survival rate, I was told this on a CPR course by a major in the royal marines. Larry was out of luck.
  • edited August 2012
    If you are giving someone CPR properly, you should break their ribs under the pressure, it also has a terrible survival rate, I was told this on a CPR course by a major in the royal marines. Larry was out of luck.

    yes it can crack/break ribs but it can save people/help preserve life.

    royal marines in a combat situation when a person is down/out has a bullet wound or just blown up...yeah there are other factors that decrease survival...if they are bleeding alot cpr isn't going to work.

    larry was intact he had a chance..
  • edited August 2012
    I tried to revive Larry, but as soon as I saw him move his lips that would have been it for me: if he wasn't showing other signs of life I would have killed him myself.

    Honestly, he was liability with his chronic heart condition and age. He could go at anytime so he was always dangerous. What if he died in the night? Sooner or later I would want to distance myself from him anyway.
  • edited August 2012
    nope he doesn't!!
    if a ttg person confirms it then i'll shut up but till then your all crazy..

    i remember destructoid streaming live a Walking dead ep 2 walkthrough a while ago with some telltale staff members, and they confirmed that the last "movement" was there intentionally to make you notice that larry was alive or coming back to life.
  • edited August 2012
    The reason why the band teacher became a zombie...i believe is because Lee's AXE has been used to kill zombies...which equals to dirty, full of zombie bacteria axe. In this case he used that infected axe on the teacher's leg....leading to infect him in the process. That's what i believe....i could be wrong
  • edited August 2012
    yes it can crack/break ribs but it can save people/help preserve life.

    royal marines in a combat situation when a person is down/out has a bullet wound or just blown up...yeah there are other factors that decrease survival...if they are bleeding alot cpr isn't going to work.

    larry was intact he had a chance..
    If you don't break the ribs you aren't pressing down on the ol ticker, and he meant in everyday situations its pretty poor, in combat forget it lol but you're supposed to keep doing it until paramedics get to the scene with defibrillators, CPR is like a manual version of those to get back into the correct circadian rhythm or restart the heart. I tried to help even though I only got to 4, if I have the chance to saltlick kenny, justice will be done...I don't even know which is my original save anymore ive done pretty much everyangle!?
  • edited August 2012
    The reason why the band teacher became a zombie...i believe is because Lee's AXE has been used to kill zombies...which equals to dirty, full of zombie bacteria axe. In this case he used that infected axe on the teacher's leg....leading to infect him in the process. That's what i believe....i could be wrong

    Doesn't touching exposed flesh with zombie flesh heighten and quicken the risk for infection?
  • edited August 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Doesn't touching exposed flesh with zombie flesh heighten and quicken the risk for infection?

    i would assume if there's an exchange of fluids like blood/saliva/sweat then yes..

    so usually you aim to touch the clothes or use something else to move them out the way.
  • edited August 2012
    The reason why the band teacher became a zombie...i believe is because Lee's AXE has been used to kill zombies...which equals to dirty, full of zombie bacteria axe. In this case he used that infected axe on the teacher's leg....leading to infect him in the process. That's what i believe....i could be wrong

    And if you don't chop off David's leg, it's the kid that gets shot and he turns just as fast as David did, without the aid of walker juice.
  • edited August 2012
    The facts are spoon fed to the player and yet some people still don't believe it..

    yes 'david' died from the axe wound and turned but as ben clearly says when he makes a huge scene to tell them why david cameback

    everyone is already infected....
  • edited August 2012
    Yeah.
  • edited August 2012
    Okay, there is no risk of contamination in anything because there is no proven disease. Kirkman says in the above link on zombies that a zombie's bite kills because of a lethal infection, just like if you let a cut get infected. Infected doesn't imply a zombie strain, just contaminants in the air.

    A zombie's bite is NOT always lethal. Dale is a bite survivor. There was one other...he bled out though.
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