Duck is an annoying SOB

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  • edited July 2012
    1) 10 year olds are hardly that incompetent IRL, and Clementine (the only other child thus far) certainly isn't.

    2) I was agreeing with you on something, not giving a lecture, seriously do you have ANY critical thinking skills?

    3) No offense, but a warzone and a disaster zone aren't the same. Both are traumatic and put A LOT of pressure on people... But in a war zone there are still men with guns enforcing some form of order. In a disaster zone, there is now law. People take things, by force. Also, more people are starving, homeless, and more empowered by the chaos. Less hesitant to do what needs to be done, because there is no law and there is no order... Only survival.

    That's what happened in Hatti, and Hatti was NOTHING compared to what Z-Day would be like. Psychologically speaking, we're programmed to survive.. At any cost.
    10 year olds are incompetent in real life.
    They do NOT understand how wrong things can go. Many times, adults dont either.

    You know what would happen in Z-Day? Its kind of like Afganistan. Except Taliban without guns. Which is why Z-Day would never happen.
    Like in Afganistan or Kosovo or Haiti. Law and order would show up and put an end to the bad guys. And those walking zombies would not stand a chanse.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    10 year olds are incompetent in real life.
    They do NOT understand how wrong things can go. Many times, adults dont either.

    You know what would happen in Z-Day? Its kind of like Afganistan. Except Taliban without guns. Which is why Z-Day would never happen.
    Like in Afganistan or Kosovo or Haiti. Law and order would show up and put an end to the bad guys. And those walking zombies would not stand a chanse.

    Trust me, I remember being 10. I was stupid in a lot of ways, but not nearly that stupid. But also, Duck is clearly mentally handicapped, it's obvious in the way he acts.

    So you say, but until that point there is chaos. And in The Walking Dead Game, the thing we're still talking about, that's not an option.
  • edited July 2012
    Trust me, I remember being 10. I was stupid in a lot of ways, but not nearly that stupid. But also, Duck is clearly mentally handicapped, it's obvious in the way he acts.

    So you say, but until that point there is chaos. And in The Walking Dead Game, the thing we're still talking about, that's not an option.
    I dont trust anyone who blame 10 year olds for an accident.
    Duck acts like every other 10 year olds. And ya, it can seem like they are all handicapped, mentally retarded, stupid and so on. But their not. they are just 10 year olds.

    In my TWD game everything turned out ok.
    Brothers are dead and will never bother me again. After what they did, i am more suprised that people let them live.
    Next time i will come across 2 brothers out looking for gas, i will do the same thing. But if it was my call and i had so much gas i could trade it away, i would have driven to Canada long ago.
    The only way to survive such a thing. If it was real, and not 5 episodes that you are gonna survive anyways.. Back to the basics. Live like an indian tribe.
    There is no more getting up at 8 to go to work.
    There is no more paying taxes.
    Money has little or no value. Everyone just have to help eachother out. And do their part. Strength in numbers.
    Capitalism is replaced by communism.
  • edited July 2012
    Duck is definitely my least favorite character in the series simply because of the "annoyance" factor in addition to the sneaking suspicion I have that he's going to do something stupid to compromise the security of the group (or even just Clem). My only hope is that he's a package deal with Kenny when it comes to departure/death and that Lee and/or Clem aren't dragged down with him in the process.

    Even worse than pinning Shawn's leg under the tractor wheel is that we see Duck still fiddling with the steering wheel even after that, grinding the tractor wheel into the poor guy's leg. I'm certain Duck's not a kid, but everything wrong about the Walking Dead world made manifest. Kill Duck, save an Excedrin. :p

    Incidentally, even if you naively believe that he is "just a boy", 10 years old is when kids can start being held responsible for criminal actions... :rolleyes:
  • edited July 2012
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    Incidentally, even if you naively believe that he is "just a boy", 10 years old is when kids can start being held responsible for criminal actions... :rolleyes:
    Perhaps in Iran.

    If a 10 year old do something illegal his parents will be held responsible.
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  • edited July 2012
    I'm not a genius, technically speaking, my IQ is only 127, but this has less to do with IQ and more to do with being Genre Savvy. I swear, it's like you're brand new to the apocalypse genre...

    How can I enjoy a game like this? I'm big on three things: Characters, Apocalyptic Settings, and Zombies. How could I NOT Enjoy it?

    My estimated IQ is around 140. I have found out that generally mentioning own IQ in the internet makes some gamers aggressive towards the said person.

    It probably comes from the fact that many don't like to think IQ as some kind of hierarchy system.
  • edited July 2012
    Clord wrote: »
    My estimated IQ is around 140. I have found out that generally mentioning own IQ in the internet makes some gamers aggressive towards the said person.

    It probably comes from the fact that many don't like to think IQ as some kind of hierarchy system.
    I got me a gov'ment edumacashun:D
  • edited July 2012
    Clord wrote: »
    My estimated IQ is around 140. I have found out that generally mentioning own IQ in the internet makes some gamers aggressive towards the said person.

    It probably comes from the fact that many don't like to think IQ as some kind of hierarchy system.

    Mentioning its own IQ is like mentioning penis size or how many chicks you have banged the last 24 hours or who's father is stronger than the other.

    Yappin about 140 IQ on the internet sounds like something "Duck" or another 10 year old would do in a couple of years.
  • edited July 2012
    ozzmann wrote: »
    HA HA HA that made me spurt soda through my nose!:D

    Well.
    I got 141 in IQ, 10 inch cock, banged 24 chicks last 24 hours and my father IS stronger than your father.

    And that is when you are supposed to follow up with "But my father is dead!".
    Oh god, here's a tissue.

    And i would go to bed feeling like my IQ was 75 for taking part in such an arguement.
  • edited July 2012
    So...am I the only one who'd like to hear Duck's story about Super Dinosaur?

    I wish you could make out what he was saying.

    "Oh, Clementine, check this out! It was so awesome! The ******* had this minigun on her shoulder and it's all like: pow! pow!pow! And the Super Dinasour is toast! But you know what? He wasn't! And then there is one time, Derek and the Super Dinosaur got ambushed by Squidious, but Derek had an underwater mega laser, it was so awesome!" and repeats over an over again.... poor Clem... I would like to know if that really happend on the comics...
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Kenny Vs Lee would be Duck and clementines arguement

    Duck: Please my dad's so much stronger then Lee
    Clem: Your dad couldn't stand up when Larry punched him.
    Duck: Lee can barely stand up period.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    I dont trust anyone who blame 10 year olds for an accident.
    Duck acts like every other 10 year olds. And ya, it can seem like they are all handicapped, mentally retarded, stupid and so on. But their not. they are just 10 year olds.

    In my TWD game everything turned out ok.
    Brothers are dead and will never bother me again. After what they did, i am more suprised that people let them live.
    Next time i will come across 2 brothers out looking for gas, i will do the same thing. But if it was my call and i had so much gas i could trade it away, i would have driven to Canada long ago.
    The only way to survive such a thing. If it was real, and not 5 episodes that you are gonna survive anyways.. Back to the basics. Live like an indian tribe.
    There is no more getting up at 8 to go to work.
    There is no more paying taxes.
    Money has little or no value. Everyone just have to help eachother out. And do their part. Strength in numbers.
    Capitalism is replaced by communism.

    I know enough kids due to Family, Friends, etc, to know that's not the case. Yeah, they are annoying as hell and stupid. But none of them are as stupid as Duck, he's even recognized by his own father as being "as dumb as a bag of hammers"... He seems like he has aspergers.

    Why? Maybe they thought letting them be eaten by their momma was more ironic than kicking them into a fence. Also, I know a few LPers that just couldn't kill Andy knowing Clem-Clem was watching. I didn't show that weakness of course, she needs to learn what it takes to survive.
  • edited July 2012
    Clord wrote: »
    My estimated IQ is around 140. I have found out that generally mentioning own IQ in the internet makes some gamers aggressive towards the said person.

    It probably comes from the fact that many don't like to think IQ as some kind of hierarchy system.

    Yeah, people do tend to think of it that way, which is their flaw. It certainly helps, but I know a lot of "Geniuses" who drink, smoke, snort, etc away all of their problems because they don't like being able to see how screwed the world is... Not really what I'd call "Intelligent".

    Then again, most people also don't subscribe to the theory of multiple intelligences so...

    Anyways, I think seeing who reacts poorly to it is an indicator of who the insecure morons are. LOL
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    Perhaps in Iran.

    If a 10 year old do something illegal his parents will be held responsible.

    Unfortunately, no. In England and the U.S. For the former, the minimum age of criminal responsbility is 10, in the latter, it depends on the state, e.g. Florida law permits someone to be tried as an adult regardless of age, depending on the crime.
  • edited July 2012
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    Unfortunately, no. In England and the U.S. For the former, the minimum age of criminal responsbility is 10, in the latter, it depends on the state, e.g. Florida law permits someone to be tried as an adult regardless of age, depending on the crime.

    Does this mean that, in Florida, Duck's home state, he could potentially be tried for his hand in Shane's Death? If so... XD @ Lars80
  • edited July 2012
    I know enough kids due to Family, Friends, etc, to know that's not the case. Yeah, they are annoying as hell and stupid. But none of them are as stupid as Duck, he's even recognized by his own father as being "as dumb as a bag of hammers"... He seems like he has aspergers.

    Why? Maybe they thought letting them be eaten by their momma was more ironic than kicking them into a fence. Also, I know a few LPers that just couldn't kill Andy knowing Clem-Clem was watching. I didn't show that weakness of course, she needs to learn what it takes to survive.

    What makes you think Duck has asbergers?

    But did mommy actually eat Andy, or do they just assume she did?
    And clem was watching? That is weakness right there.
    Clem is gonna grow up in that world.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    What makes you think Duck has asbergers?

    But did mommy actually eat Andy, or do they just assume she did?
    And clem was watching? That is weakness right there.
    Clem is gonna grow up in that world.

    Knew a kid who had a really mild case of it, Duck seems like him... Well, a lot less intelligent and a lot more incompetent but still.

    Danny's in a bear trap, Andy wanted to die, they're dead no matter what.
    Though I did kill them in all of my playthroughs, just saying I think it's less merciful than the "Cruel" option of killing them both.
  • edited July 2012
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    Unfortunately, no. In England and the U.S. For the former, the minimum age of criminal responsbility is 10, in the latter, it depends on the state, e.g. Florida law permits someone to be tried as an adult regardless of age, depending on the crime.
    Ya, depending on the crime.
    How many 10 year olds did Florida sentence? And for what?
    We are talking about an adult putting a child at the wheels of a tractor.
    And then that child ran over the adult.
  • edited July 2012
    Does this mean that, in Florida, Duck's home state, he could potentially be tried for his hand in Shane's Death? If so... XD @ Lars80

    For someone with a 127 IQ you are being really dumb.
  • edited July 2012
    Knew a kid who had a really mild case of it, Duck seems like him... Well, a lot less intelligent and a lot more incompetent but still.

    Do you get the idea that Duck isnt a social kid? Not outgoing? Does Duck have problems communicating? Does he stick to himself? Is Duck a genius? Does Duck seem aggressive?
    Which symptoms indicate that Duck has asbergers?

    Maybe hyper? But no one ever got the diagnosis of Asberger based on being hyper.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    For someone with a 127 IQ you are being really dumb.
    I'm quick witted, not a law attorney. I heard that sometimes people might be tried with Murder if their negligence lead to the death, so I figured why not?
    Unfortunately, being able to put pieces together quicker than most doesn't mean I'm psychic...

    Of course, you probably don't really comprehend the function of IQ so... I mean, if you did then- never mind, it's more amusing this way.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    Do you get the idea that Duck isnt a social kid? Not outgoing? Does Duck have problems communicating? Does he stick to himself? Is Duck a genius? Does Duck seem aggressive?
    Which symptoms indicate that Duck has asbergers?

    Maybe hyper? But no one ever got the diagnosis of Asberger based on being hyper.

    His social skills are certainly lacking. Most think this means not talking, but it could also mean talking when you shouldn't (not reading the situation right.) Like with Clementine after first arriving to the Motor Inn. Until that point I just figured he's just really really stupid. But after that it kinda clicked and I remembered a similar vibe from a kid I used to know that had it. Again, minus the Genius bit. But people with mild Cases don't have to have all the symptoms, or even really strong symptoms. (Some people even argue as to whether or not it actually exists, or is just a mash up of various abnormal character traits.)
  • edited July 2012
    I'm quick witted, not a law attorney. I heard that sometimes people might be tried with Murder if their negligence lead to the death, so I figured why not?
    Unfortunately, being able to put pieces together quicker than most doesn't mean I'm psychic...

    Of course, you probably don't really comprehend the function of IQ so... I mean, if you did then- never mind, it's more amusing this way.

    I guess you are the one with autism.
    Atleast your social skills and knowledge seems below average.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    I guess you are the one with autism.
    Atleast your social skills and knowledge seems below average.

    PROTIP: If you're going to insult me at least come up with something that's true, or at least within reason to believe to be true. Otherwise, it'll be more amusing than insulting for me.
  • edited July 2012
    PROTIP: If you're going to insult me at least come up with something that's true, or at least within reason to believe to be true. Otherwise, it'll be more amusing than insulting for me.
    This whole discussion took an amusing turn when you started talking about your IQ. But i am glad you are catching up.
    Now we just need someone to come in here saying "owned" with a big ZERO in front. Then everything wil be complete.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    This whole discussion took an amusing turn when you started talking about your IQ. But i am glad you are catching up.
    Now we just need someone to come in here saying "owned" with a big ZERO in front. Then everything wil be complete.

    Right, cause that's gonna happen. BTW, I only mentioned my IQ because you called me a genius (for the sake of showing you that's incorrect). Best to battle Sarcasm with Calculable Facts... So make that what you will. :cool:
  • edited July 2012
    "Checkmate, I am an idiot"?
  • edited July 2012
    "Checkmate, I am an idiot"?

    I've brought myself down to his level so Thoroughly, I honestly can't tell who that's for. XD
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    you know theres a twelve year old being charged in florida for the murder of a younger sibling also theres something about the kid molesting someone too
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    you know theres a twelve year old being charged in florida for the murder of a younger sibling also theres something about the kid molesting someone too

    Yeah, kids aren't nearly as innocent and stupid as people like to believe.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    Ya, depending on the crime.
    How many 10 year olds did Florida sentence? And for what?
    We are talking about an adult putting a child at the wheels of a tractor.
    And then that child ran over the adult.

    The assertion was that we don't blame kids for crimes or put them on trial for them. That's not really true, kids not only can be held responsible according to the laws on the books in certain states, but are. It's just that most cases involving kids go to family court.

    Hell, it was only a few years ago that New York put a 9 year old kid on trial for Manslaughter. California charged a 10-year old kid with murder within the past year, etc. so yeah, it does happen, even in first-world countries.

    In the case of kids that were a year or two older, they were tried and convicted as adults; e.g. Lionel Tate was sentenced to life for something he did at the age of 12, Nathaniel Abraham was likewise tried as an adult and convicted for something he did when he was 11.
  • edited July 2012
    About putting children on trial...

    It's not unprecedented, but it is rare. Usually prosecutors have to PROVE to a trial judge that the child in question was indeed capable of understanding the consequences of their actions. I doubt that more than a handful of cases in recent history have managed to come up with that kind evidence.

    There's a reason that certain things are kept off limits for children until they reach a certain age (18 in America) - it's an acknowledgement that a "child" does not understand the full impact of their actions.
  • edited July 2012
    There's a reason that certain things are kept off limits for children until they reach a certain age (18 in America) - it's an acknowledgement that a "child" does not understand the full impact of their actions.

    Load of crap, I remember when I was around 10. I knew what rape, murder, sex, drugs, etc, was and the consequences for those actions. Didn't keep me from thinking about killing my 1rst grade teacher. (Brought a toy gun to school and scared the crap out of her, XD.)

    Don't worry, I've improved A LOT since childhood. Yes, think how poorly of an opinion you have of me as I am NOW, and know that in comparison the child I used to be was a selfish, sick, twisted, cruel, and diabolical little demon. The whole no killing kids thing you talked about before? If I could go back in time it'd bring whole new meaning to "Homicide Suicide". XD
  • edited July 2012
    Load of crap, I remember when I was around 10. I knew what rape, murder, sex, drugs, etc, was and the consequences for those actions. Didn't keep me from thinking about killing my 1rst grade teacher. (Brought a toy gun to school and scared the crap out of her, XD.)

    Don't worry, I've improved A LOT since childhood. Yes, think how poorly of an opinion you have of me as I am NOW, and know that in comparison the child I used to be was a selfish, sick, twisted, cruel, and diabolical little demon. The whole no killing kids thing you talked about before? If I could go back in time it'd bring whole new meaning to "Homicide Suicide". XD

    It's not crap. It's one thing to say that a kid understands good and bad - it's another thing to expect said kid to understand all of the subtle nuance in the judicial system and how their actions will be scrutinized by it.

    If you HONESTLY understood what murder/etc. was as a child, then you were one of the "rare" exceptions that I was talking about. Don't pretend that because you did, though, that EVERY kid does.
  • edited July 2012
    It's not crap. It's one thing to say that a kid understands good and bad - it's another thing to expect said kid to understand all of the subtle nuance in the judicial system and how their actions will be scrutinized by it.

    If you HONESTLY understood what murder/etc. was as a child, then you were one of the "rare" exceptions that I was talking about. Don't pretend that because you did, though, that EVERY kid does.

    It's not just me though, I used to talk about it with kids in my class and some of my close friends and I look back on it... Maybe I'm just surrounded by exceptions. But I'd think kids aren't as innocent as you'd like to believe.

    School yards are always some of the crueler and most drama filled environments. (Granted Elementary is no where near as bad as Middle School) I learned Fuck at the age of 5 on the school bus, from another kid, and it passed around all of school. Kids using racial slurs, talking about porn, etc. Maybe it's because I'm just about to turn 20, so I'm from one of the younger generations, but still. Kids do some wicked evil crap to each other, in and out of school.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    This line of thinking bores me

    We the Jury find the Defendant not guilty By reason that we no longer have a working judicial system in a post apocalyptic society
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    This line of thinking bores me

    We the Jury find the Defendant not guilty By reason that we no longer have a working judicial system in a post apocalyptic society

    I'm lee Everett, the: Judge, Jury, and Executioner. :cool:
    Poor Duck doesn't stand a chance now. :p
  • edited July 2012
    I love these arguments about Duck. It's like watching both sides whipping each other with long stands of overcooked spagetti - no one gets any where in the discussion. Lol.

    In any case, Shaun / Kenny were partially responsible for putting Duck on a tractor anyway. I wouldn't put my kids anywhere near heavy machines. So Shaun's accident was unfortunate, but we can't blame Duck for it. Still, kinda strange no one said anything about the fact that a bunch of people thought it was OK to put a kid on a tractor.
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    you know theres a twelve year old being charged in florida for the murder of a younger sibling also theres something about the kid molesting someone too

    Are you comparing that to Duck running over Shawns leg and zombies eating Shawn?
    If so, Duck is the smartest one in the group.
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