The Fate of the St John Brothers
The official stats show that most people didnt kill both brothers, but doesnt indicate who killed one brother or who killed neither. Personally I spared both. I might have killed Danny, but I read a spoiler in advance and knew Clem would be watching, so no way I wanted her to see that. Not killing Andy was both an act of mercy (he was so pathetic kneeling broken on the ground like that) and as a way of seeing a much more epic conclusion to that scene.
So what about the rest of you? Kill both? Killed one, if so which one? Or spared both like me?
So what about the rest of you? Kill both? Killed one, if so which one? Or spared both like me?
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" The world we know is gone, but keeping our humanity? That's a choice."
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If the world is to survive we must maintain our humanity and that's what I'm(Lee)trying to show Clem.:D
Both brothers dead.
After losing two members of your group and narrowly escaping certain death at the hands of murderous cannibals, you choose to let them go. Men with intimate knowledge of your group, access to weapons and a serious score to settle... and you let them go. All because, wait for it, it's the "right" thing to do.
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Maybe you'll find some nice rapists and necrophiliacs to make friends with in episode 3!
Seriously though, I'm glad to see other people taking different approaches to their playthroughs than I am. Though I still hope all you naive morality fetishists get bit in the ass big-time for decisions like this in future episodes.
As rick grimes apparently said once "Whats the point in surviving if my son is dead inside" or something to that effect.
Perhaps that come back to bite me in the ass, and letting Andy live come back to bite others in the ass.
No one saw him get eaten, just alot of assuming going on.
But he was capable of standing up, grabbing a gun and outrunning zombies.
And Andy may want to die. But he also got a score to settle as someone else pointed out. Well, not with me. In my game he is gone. And Clementine is one step closer to adjusting to the new world.
Carl put a bullet through Shanes head. Clem may eventually have to do the same if necessary.
If Andy and Danny are alive they both are hiding out in the barn
Andy was a serious threat up to the point Lee punched the crap out of him. After finding out his family was either dead or dying, he completely broke down. He wasnt much of a threat after that. Again as Lee said, "ITS OVER!" The horror has passed. The tension has been broken. The best thing to do at that point is to turn and walk away. I doubt either brother lived through the night, so kill them or not, the threat was gone. At least by NOT killing them, we retain our humanity.
Danny chanse of survival is low. He was sliced wideopen by Lilly with a sickle, stuck in a bear trap and laying in the barn. Unless the door is closed his chanses are slim when the zombies approach. And if it is closed he will likely die from dehydration a few days after.
Andy on the other side. Hes leggs are working just fine. Face is messed up but that is also it. If left alive, he is the biggest threat we have encountered so far.
Would he stand on his knees waiting for walkers to approach and kill him? Maybe. But maybe not? No one saw it happen. So its up to telltale if they want this incident to backfire on the player.
Maybe Andy lodge a bullett in Clementines spine next episode, but she survives like Carl did in the tv series.
Oh no, I get it. She's going to be one hell of an emotionally sheltered walker some day. "Good job, Lee. Now I can be innocent forever. Braaaaaaains..."
[/breaking balls]
Trouble is, even if the world doesn't get to her first, Clem's a smart kid. Maybe too smart for her own good. Sheltered or not, she'll figure things out on her own. That's my bet, anyway.
As for the brothers, I think it's a good rule of thumb that if someone tries to murder you and fails, you shouldn't allow them any chance to try again some day. It's just practical.
Also that "Clem would see me kill Danny" / "walkers got Andy anyway" argument is bullshit. Unless you skip ahead of the narrative, those elements don't come into play until AFTER a decision is made. That's what makes the dilemma so awesome!
speculation hmm ?
i only see walkers arrive in the farm.
and clem is not ok with lee killing she hides away behind people cries and looks at lee with fear.. you monster..
i've done save em both and kill em both
Besides I thought been eaten alive by walkers was a more fitting punishment
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Now I ended up sparing them, but I honestly thought that there would have been time LATER for the group to decide what to do to them.
With Danny in the barn, he was already trapped. Katjaa and Duck were still in danger. I figured "Guarantee everyone's safety, THEN come back."
Brenda got bitten by Walker Mark, Katjaa was safe - we still had to find Duck.
Andy was tough. In the end, though, he had lost everything. He WANTED to die. Everyone was watching, but I didn't see the need for vengeance in their faces - I saw a group of people who wanted nothing more than to leave. So I picked to leave, and would have dealt with the consequences of either/both of them returning later. Then the fence gave out, and a Walker army descended upon the farm. I'm pretty sure the St. John's are gone for good.
Now, this goes in line with my rule that we don't kill ANYONE who is not a direct threat to my safety or the safety of my group. (Jolene was the ONLY exception to this rule, and it was because I was more interested in what she was going to say about Danny than anything else).
Also, there is a little bit of poetic justice about leaving the brother's alive. Who would have thought that the very thing that they resorted to in the same of "survival" (cannibalism) is the very thing that led to their downfall. Danny is genuinely confused that you chose not to kill him. Andy was a man who had lost everything. They spend the last moments of their lives in this state.
I hear you. I killed them both simply because the risk of letting them live outweighed the benfit of letting them live. That's how the criminal justice system works in my game.
In addition to the brothers and Brendas atrocities performed on our group, I had Negan on my mind:mad::mad::mad:
Quoting this because it needs to be repeated. I couldn't have said it better myself man. As for the bolded part, if TTG has the balls to actually go that route, they'll earn a customer for life.
This one won't come back - everyone's dead regardless of the choices. But I think it's a freebie situation. Every last one of the bandits are going to kill Lee the second he chooses the turn around option.
The group is gong to know now that if you're out to kill Lee, he won't let you off if you fail. Retribution is his middle name. I don't regret either decision one bit.
You with shoot him or push him into the electric fence.
You can. Ive seen in it walkthroughs. The one time I killed him, I just kicked him into a fence so when I saw other people shoot him, I wondered where they got the gun from, lol.
When I replay the game I doubt I'll kill either since you know Danny isn't going to be a threat after he gets caught in the trap and if I resisted baiting Andy I don't think I'd see him as being so dangerous to keep alive. I guess it'll also help with looking after Clem for her to not see you killing people that were alive albeit completely crazy.
Maybe it depends if you have Doug or Carley in your group?
It's andy's gun. When the option to start punching happens, don't do it. Andy will then try to throw you off. You'll struggle. Andy will bounce off the electric fence and remain alive. you pick up the gun. Discussion sequence occurs. Then you have the option to give him a bullet to the head or walk away.