[Spoiler]Clementine's mother
I can not believe no one has posted about this yet. I seriously believe that Jolene was Clementine's mother. Firstly, she had Clementine's hat inside her tent, secondly at the end of episode two she was focusing on filming Clementine. Now, it could be coincidences, but at the camp when lee and the cannibal confronted her, if you choice the "Where did you get this hat?" dialog option, this is what she says.
Lee: "Where did you get this hat?"
Jolene: "The little girl."
Lee: "You STOLE it from her."
Jolene: "So what if I did? You stole her from ME!!!"
You can also check it on video, skip to 7:00.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NzqPPhCvA
So, the cannibal (can't remember his name :P) actually (if its true) shot Clementine's mother. You still think the bastard deserved to live at the end of episode 2, and do you think my theory is correct?
EDIT: Actually slash what I said, her real mother is named Diana, http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Diana, but this gave me another theory, do you think it was Clementine's mothers sister? Maybe her cousin? That would explain the You stole her from me part. It could also be her babysitter, who says the zombie in episode 1 'was' the baby sitter? She could also have a secret big sister that ran away/moved, and thus was not in the family picture? I know Jolene is related to Clementine in some way. What do you think?
Lee: "Where did you get this hat?"
Jolene: "The little girl."
Lee: "You STOLE it from her."
Jolene: "So what if I did? You stole her from ME!!!"
You can also check it on video, skip to 7:00.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NzqPPhCvA
So, the cannibal (can't remember his name :P) actually (if its true) shot Clementine's mother. You still think the bastard deserved to live at the end of episode 2, and do you think my theory is correct?
EDIT: Actually slash what I said, her real mother is named Diana, http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Diana, but this gave me another theory, do you think it was Clementine's mothers sister? Maybe her cousin? That would explain the You stole her from me part. It could also be her babysitter, who says the zombie in episode 1 'was' the baby sitter? She could also have a secret big sister that ran away/moved, and thus was not in the family picture? I know Jolene is related to Clementine in some way. What do you think?
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Yeah, just found that out before you posted, edited my thread. :P
Well, she could be her mothers sister, that had a kid too, but she lost it, she then went crazy, and wanted to adopt Clementine because of the family relation. Cause, they is also Duck, why not take him? Why exactly Clementine.
Most likely, Jolene went mad when her own child died, and it probably was taken away by either the bandits or the cannibals. In her confused mind, she started to stalk and adore a child she saw at the motel, wishing for her to be her lost daughter so much that she eventually believed it. She stole Clem's hat as a memento, to be near her.
Clementine has never seen Jolene in her life. Well, maybe at Save Lots.
No, it's made perfectly clear that she's gone crazy due to the Bandits abducting and raping her Real daughter... She's just delusional.
This is the second time that someone has said that Jolene's daughter was dead. Was this confirmed and I missed it?
Did they really hint at her DAUGHTER being raped? I thought that happened to Jolene herself...
If you let it play out W/O shooting her, and add what she says to her remarks in the camcorder, it's highly likely... Why would they take her out into the woods, just to kill her? Especially considering Jolene was apart of their group until that moment...
When Jolene finds Lee and Danny at the camp, she says that "anybody can take a can of beans, supplies, or even a girl, everything's the same." Also, she says that "all men are monsters." I can't seem to find direct quotes from the game that implied that her daughter was raped. I just took it on thought.
imo she was a savelots employee who was camping with her daughter (not clem) in the woods everything was fine till the bandits found her the took her daughter had fun with her (possible rape, she ran away got turned or eaten by the st johns.
she was attacked by the bandits was spying on the st johns and lee's group and she goes crazy clem being a young girl reignites her maternal instinct too which she SOMEHOW steals clems cap...(how the smeg she pull that off?)
How can you think this is in any way? You must have a very short term memory if you ever think of Jolene being related to Clementine.
First off, it is clear that Jolene went crazy and lost her girl. With "YOU" she means all men there in general. That's why she says all man are monsters etc she went crazy.
Second, there is a picture of Jolene+daughter in the tent, it looks nothing like Clementine.
Third, at Clementines house you heard the voicemails. Her mother is called Diana and it has a totally different voice/accent.
Fourth, Clementine told you that her mom is a doctor when you asked about her parents. Jolene is a Savelots-employee (she even wears the uniform as you talk to her).
Sixth, it is obvious that Jolene stalks Clementine because she is a small girl nearly the same age as her lost daughter, as you see on the tape at the end.
Pretty much everything in the game speaks against Jolene knowing Clementine.
How did you make that screenshot? I can't get such a clean view of the picture myself. That was the best view I could see.
That's a Afro family.
Brotha man got him a nice thick light skinned woman. They got they a nice light skinned child that can pass.
They were living the American dream
Google search "Walking Dead Clementine's parents". That was all.
I don't see her mom being Asian.....She Black:D Half or less maybe, but how many Asians have Kinky hair
That's what I'm saying.
Clem mentions her hair on Hershel's farm, when talking to Kenny's wife
I have black friends who say "black people that are not mixed and have light skin pigmentation... They called Red-bone"
But hispanic is also plausible
And I tell you what sir, Clem's momma is a thick red bone. I do declare.
mmmmmmhhhhhmmmmmmmm!!!!
Her hair looks just like her momma's hair
could be just one of the reasons they adopted her
LOL anything to say she ain't black.
Hmm, that's a good point. But the whole adopted thing doesn't really effect the zombie environment. I mean it would make a good "lifetime" movie but...the theme of the game and the development of the characters makes Clem's "real" mom irrelevant.
Now..if they plot twist in such a way that Lee and his wife had a kid they gave up for adoption and that kid turned out to be Clem that would be a..surprise to say the least.
wow, that would be a crazy plot twist, but it could happen
"Could be, you just married the wrong woman":D
Lee: GRRRRRRR!!!
I don't think there is any connection between Clem and Jolene. Unfortunately, it appears Jolene snapped under the heightened stress of things that go on during a ZA. She tried to replace a daughter she lost with a new one...Clem.
What I want to know is when/how did she steal Clem's hat.
this this this this this
with lilly /carly on sentry duty or dougs 'alarm bells'
i can only 'speculate' jolene did enough recon with her camera to work out when she could enter the camp.
still bit stupid of the group not be watching clem 24/7...
perhaps a ttg dev could enlighten us ? nudge nudge
The real plot twist is that Clem is Rick's innocence. At the end of the game, you have to put her back into his soul.
Question is, will she have any innocence left??
But very Deep my friend.
There's no way Jolene is her mom because both pictures found in the game make the idea retarded.
I picture Clementine as black/hispanic mix. Either way, she's so adorable, my Lee will do whatever it takes to save her.
I thought perhaps they might have wandered out for a bit from time to time. Might be very claustrophobic, being stuck in there for so long.
But THAT is quite plausible too.
He also probably convinced her to lick the Salt Lick... I hope Duck gets the Chomp in episode 3, or at least POSSIBLY get the Chomp.
I'd like to see that, but I have a feeling we're probably going to be stuck with him until Episode 4, with the final group (or lack thereof) being determined by Episode 5.
I also have the sad feeling that they may not kill him at all and just have him split from the group along with Kenny or something, because honestly, I can't see how they could kill Duck without it being a "Narm" moment (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Narm).