So.. Kirkmans comment about aspirin (POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILER)

edited July 2012 in The Walking Dead
I'm sure many watched Talking Dead and Kirkman's comment was seen as a joke. He said aspirin is the cure.. haha.

I haven't read the comics mostly because I don't want to spoil the TV series and I try to avoid the comic discussions also. But the Interweb is a big place and I accidently stumbled upon the discussion that because everyone is already infected, the zombie bite is just a poison that kills you which I guess comes out in the comic.

This got me thinking. Lets say what this poison does is thicken the blood so it will not cycle through the body causing a heart attack. That kills you. As many know, aspirin thins the blood. Maybe enough aspirin can thin the blood enough to counteract the poison that is thickening it until you get past the zombie bite poisoning. Then, since you don't die, you don't zombiefy.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...

Of course it isn't a cure as you'll die eventually from old age, accidents, etc. and once that happens you will become a zombie like everyone else.

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  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    oldgun wrote: »
    Maybe enough aspirin can thin the blood enough to counteract the poison that is thickening it until you get past the zombie bite poisoning.

    A far more potent blood thinner is nitroglycerin. You know, the stuff they gave Larry a lot for his heart? ;)
  • edited July 2012
    A far more potent blood thinner is nitroglycerin. You know, the stuff they gave Larry a lot for his heart? ;)

    Sure, any blood thinner would work, but what are you more likely to find in about every medicine cabinet. Nitro/prescription blood thinners or plain old Aspirin?
  • edited July 2012
    Liquid nitrogen.
  • edited July 2012
    i think its more like an infection, but your body fights it off, so you are just a carrier, but a zombie bite is so infectious the virus overwhelms you (massive fever) and kills you, letting the virus take over and reanimates parts of the brain.

    The rest is magic because dead nerves wouldn't transmit signals from the brain and also a you cant get energy out of thin air that is why we eat and digest food (as we now zombies don't need a stomach to live) so once you get past a curtain point science and logic don't work, its magic
  • edited July 2012
    i think its more like an infection, but your body fights it off, so you are just a carrier, but a zombie bite is so infectious the virus overwhelms you (massive fever) and kills you, letting the virus take over and reanimates parts of the brain.

    The rest is magic because dead nerves wouldn't transmit signals from the brain and also a you cant get energy out of thin air that is why why eat and digest food (as we now zombies don't need a stomach to live) so once you get past a curtain point science and logic don't work, its magic

    This. Its purely fairy dust.
  • edited July 2012
    or the walkers 'nerves' are also reanimated in a basic form and thus still allow operation/movement till the body naturally decomposes hence some walkers being slower/ barely moving..

    you see in the tv show people dying but not turning....mainly in parked cars...
  • edited July 2012
    or the walkers 'nerves' are also reanimated in a basic form and thus still allow operation/movement till the body naturally decomposes hence some walkers being slower/ barely moving..

    you see in the tv show people dying but not turning....mainly in parked cars...

    possibly, but reanimation is magic though, but also no blood flow to to transmit oxygen to the body (no lungs needed for a zombie as well), necrotic muscle tissues doesn't work either, and preserving the brain itself is magic why would the brain cells not die without energy, there are just so many reasons a zombie (ones we are talking about) wouldn't work in reality.
  • edited July 2012
    cough resi evil / umbrella cough....
  • edited July 2012
    cough resi evil / umbrella cough....

    they wouldn't work either, it doesn't ruin the fantasy of a zombie apocalypse for me, i just know it's a fantasy
  • edited July 2012
    So Warfarin is the cure huh?
    Or ASA.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Rick going back into a Coma is the Cure
  • edited July 2012
    I'm pretty sure that this was just a joke. Kirkman would never include a "cure" for the zombies.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    The Real Cure of the Walkers is the cup of water in Clementines kitchen

    either that or lees now infected because of it
  • edited July 2012
    or the walkers 'nerves' are also reanimated in a basic form and thus still allow operation/movement till the body naturally decomposes hence some walkers being slower/ barely moving..

    you see in the tv show people dying but not turning....mainly in parked cars...

    Nah, I read somewhere where that was explained. I think it was the AMC folks mentioning those people died from head trauma so they didn't reanimate. Basically, if your brain is intact when you die you become a walker.
  • edited July 2012
    I think that Michonne is getting aspirin for Andrea.
  • edited July 2012
    oldgun wrote: »
    I haven't read the comics mostly because I don't want to spoil the TV series
    I know this is OT but you're doing yourself a huge disservice there. You're far better off reading the comics than focussing on the skewed version of the story that the TV show presents.

    Also it would take at least 15 series' for the TV show to catch up with the comic at the current pace, which will almost certainly never happen.
  • edited July 2012
    Steve2911 wrote: »
    I know this is OT but you're doing yourself a huge disservice there. You're far better off reading the comics than focussing on the skewed version of the story that the TV show presents.

    Also it would take at least 15 series' for the TV show to catch up with the comic at the current pace, which will almost certainly never happen.

    its not a skewed version if its your original version, but i have read some of the comics now and i think basically the series is on issue 12 (of 100) at the moment, but alot of time passed in those 12 issues, i cant remember has there been a time in the tv show apart from the beginning that has skipped time?
  • edited July 2012
    Steve2911 wrote: »
    I know this is OT but you're doing yourself a huge disservice there. You're far better off reading the comics than focussing on the skewed version of the story that the TV show presents.

    Also it would take at least 15 series' for the TV show to catch up with the comic at the current pace, which will almost certainly never happen.

    Granted the TV show from what I've heard and Kirkman has said himself is slightly different than his comic. But main plot lines and characters are still basically the same. I just like being surprised and not expecting something is all. Also I like the TV show. I've been a big Romero fan since Dawn of the Dead, the original and not the remake, (Yeah, I'm no spring chicken) and Kirkmans version of Z-day is pretty much the same as Romero's going all the way back to Night of the Living Dead.
  • edited July 2012
    oldgun wrote: »
    Granted the TV show from what I've heard and Kirkman has said himself is slightly different than his comic. But main plot lines and characters are still basically the same. I just like being surprised and not expecting something is all. Also I like the TV show. I've been a big Romero fan since Dawn of the Dead, the original and not the remake, (Yeah, I'm no spring chicken) and Kirkmans version of Z-day is pretty much the same as Romero's going all the way back to Night of the Living Dead.

    i not that far into the comics, but every little change from the comic keeps building on other changes, so from a character perspective, the comic and the tv show are very different, and what do you mean by "Kirkmans version of Z-day" do you just mean the zombies or am i missing something
  • edited July 2012
    I'm sorry but neither Aspirin or Nitroglycerin thin your blood. Aspirin's affect on your blood is that it makes your platelets less sticky so your blood won't clot as fast (that's why it's beneficial to people with heart disease, it reduces the workload on the heart if they happen to have build up in some of their arteries). Nitroglycerin is a vasodilater, it's affect on the blood is only increasing the size of the container (the veins and arteries in your body) and not changing the amount of blood you have in any way. Dilating blood vessels will also decrease the workload on the heart which is why people who are either about to have or are having heart attacks take it.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    So Warfarin is the cure huh?
    Or ASA.

    Even if the malady from the bite could be stopped with a potent drug such as warfarin, there is still the problem of bleeding out to death from the bite. Even regular blood testing it can be tricky making sure the prothrombin time is in the right range. Even a nick from a morning shave can cause trouble.
  • edited July 2012
    Cake21 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but neither Aspirin or Nitroglycerin thin your blood. Aspirin's affect on your blood is that it makes your platelets less sticky so your blood won't clot as fast (that's why it's beneficial to people with heart disease, it reduces the workload on the heart if they happen to have build up in some of their arteries). Nitroglycerin is a vasodilater, it's affect on the blood is only increasing the size of the container (the veins and arteries in your body) and not changing the amount of blood you have in any way. Dilating blood vessels will also decrease the workload on the heart which is why people who are either about to have or are having heart attacks take it.

    Cool story bro. Everyone knows nitroglycerin is actually only used for dynamite. And any use inside the heart is not recommended due to its explosive properties. I like your spirit though.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    z64dan wrote: »
    Cool story bro. Everyone knows nitroglycerin is actually only used for dynamite. And any use inside the heart is not recommended due to its explosive properties. I like your spirit though.

    :rolleyes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin

    There are more things in heaven and earth, z64dan, ...

    Cake21 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but neither Aspirin or Nitroglycerin thin your blood.

    The term "blood thinner" however, seems to be widely used for both. That might indeed not be an accurate term according to my just-performed google search though, so thanks for the info. ;)
  • edited July 2012
    A far more potent blood thinner is nitroglycerin. You know, the stuff they gave Larry a lot for his heart? ;)

    OH GODS! What if Larry really WOULDN'T HAVE TURNED AFTER ALL!!!!
    This changes EVERYTHING!!!! XD
  • edited July 2012
    I honestly think Kirkman would laugh his ass off reading what his fans over think.


    Come one people use some common sense.
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