They should have made Kenny a..

Christian.

They should have made Kenny a Christian because it would add another dimension to his character. It might explain some of the decisions he makes (not trying to save Hershel’s son) and why he expects unfailing loyalty.(When killing Lilly’s Dad) It might make the character more relatable. It would also give the player a chance to hear a different perspective on the zombie situation. (the only one so far offered as to what is going on)

And best of all for the California hippes who make this game it provides another way to jab at the ignorant southern folk.

“I’m from Florida crazy shit just comes out my mouth.”

I love it, don’t you?

My two cents: I think in the next ep. Someone close to Kenny will have to be chosen between. A life or death choice like Doug/Carly or Lilly/Larry

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  • edited July 2012
    erm wtf...

    we have irene the 'christian' in ep1 thats enough, imo

    kenny is fine as he is and to be honest religion is always a dodgy thing to do in games too much can go wrong..
  • edited July 2012
    erm wtf...

    we have irene the 'christian' in ep1 thats enough, imo

    kenny is fine as he is and to be honest religion is always a dodgy thing to do in games too much can go wrong..

    And that's what makes it fun of course! Besides Irene was a bit role and Kenny was not around. I think he who dares wins

    It can be done in respect and not to offend. It is no different from having a character that is atheist or homosexual. I think it would be intresting to have the characters have a political personality.

    It is not a aim to drive any ideology down any throat, it is a aim to add more reality to it.

    True artists understand...
  • edited July 2012
    Does he ever say he's not a Christian? I see him as one of those typical fake hypocritical "Christians" that don't do much practicing unless it's convenient.

    I could see him hitting a low and giving his life to God at some point in the game without it being out of place.
  • edited July 2012
    bghjkl wrote: »
    Does he ever say he's not a Christian? I see him as one of those typical fake hypocritical "Christians" that don't do much practicing unless it's convenient.

    I could see him hitting a low and giving his life to God at some point in the game without it being out of place.

    I like that idea a lot. It might seem a little sudden shift since he has yet to even say anything about religion. But I think that would be interesting.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    There are exactly two short remarks in this game as of yet that do not do anything besides faintly acknowledge that racism also exists in this fictional world of TWD, and we ended up with a plethora of bogus "racism" threads, two of which had to be closed because the discussion was just getting too heated.

    I don't really want to know what forum explosion occurs when an openly religious character in the group does this or that or anything good or bad, stupid or intelligent, self-sacrificing or egoistic.

    Thumbs up if Irene remains the only character with "Christian" remarks in this game. :rolleyes:
  • edited July 2012

    I don't really want to know what forum explosion occurs when an openly religious character in the group does this or that or anything good or bad, stupid or intelligent, self-sacrificing or egoistic.

    You might actually have to do your job.

    Well just because a few children will be playing the game doesn't mean it won't enrich the game. I mean wha..we have to miss out on some pretty funny and interesting dialogue moments because a few people can't control them selves?

    Later for that...

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  • edited July 2012
    Religion is a great element to add to games. It's just a bunch of complete fucking morons start flipping shit whenever it does appear, because those vocal, incredibly annoying atheists are always complaining when religion shows up.
  • edited July 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    Religion is a great element to add to games. It's just a bunch of complete fucking morons start flipping shit whenever it does appear, because those vocal, incredibly annoying atheists are always complaining when religion shows up.

    Really? Because when I see religion in games, its more along the line of "Satan is here and he's really bad, but you can beat him at level 87. Lower, if your faith stat is really high."
  • edited July 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    Religion is a great element to add to games. It's just a bunch of complete fucking morons start flipping shit whenever it does appear, because those vocal, incredibly annoying atheists are always complaining when religion shows up.

    For what it's worth, we're not all like that. Even wrote an essay on the subject.

    But yeah, while it'd be nice to see more religion in general in games, it'd just bring on a lot of unpleasant controversy, from both sides.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    what part of florida is kenny heading to. because he reminds me of a jacksonvillian
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    what part of florida is kenny heading to. because he reminds me of a jacksonvillian

    I've always wondered Gainsville. But Jacksonville could seem more likely.
  • edited July 2012
    There are exactly two short remarks in this game as of yet that do not do anything besides faintly acknowledge that racism also exists in this fictional world of TWD, and we ended up with a plethora of bogus "racism" threads, two of which had to be closed because the discussion was just getting too heated.

    I don't really want to know what forum explosion occurs when an openly religious character in the group does this or that or anything good or bad, stupid or intelligent, self-sacrificing or egoistic.

    Thumbs up if Irene remains the only character with "Christian" remarks in this game. :rolleyes:

    I know where you're coming from because I participated in one of those threads and was more than a little disheartened by the direction it took. I've read a number of upsetting posts on race in other threads too, but didn't respond for fear of fanning the flames. However (and I mean no offense here), that's a rather dispiriting argument for scrubbing the game of potentially controversial subject matter. A major theme of TWD is the breakdown of social barriers rendered obsolete by the collapse of civilization. People from different walks of life with different and sometimes opposing beliefs are forced to work together, live together, DEAL with one another.
  • edited July 2012
    Why would being a Christian make him not try and save Shaun?
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    I've always wondered Gainsville. But Jacksonville could seem more likely.

    Fort Lauderdale he said i remember now
  • edited July 2012
    trd84 wrote: »
    Why would being a Christian make him not try and save Shaun?

    I'm not sure exactly. But it may go to explain some of his logic and view points on things. Maybe as a Christian father Kenny feels it is his duty to save his family above all others. Who knows. (Not to say Christians are the only ones that save their families)

    But I stand by the idea that adding a sprinkle of religion would add depth to the game.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    However (and I mean no offense here), that's a rather dispiriting argument for scrubbing the game of potentially controversial subject matter.

    I concede it is.

    It's not that the TWD game hasn't got its controversial subject matter though. The level of violence just doesn't belong to the kind of game I'd usually play for fun. Yet no one complains about the violence, the element that makes and breaks this game for people. Instead, teensy details pertaining to race and religion are seized on, exaggerated well out of proportion and flamed to ashes by some few - often insulting, often passive aggressive - community members.

    Hershel Greene is religious AND he's in the game. That really means nothing though, because Kirkman himself wasn't able to make the character coherent in his convictions. If I remember correctly, he sharply silences his children when they swear, but curses openly about everything Rick does later on.
  • edited July 2012
    I concede it is.

    It's not that the TWD game hasn't got its controversial subject matter though. The level of violence just doesn't belong to the kind of game I'd usually play for fun. Yet no one complains about the violence, the element that makes and breaks this game for people. Instead, teensy details pertaining to race and religion are seized on, exaggerated well out of proportion and flamed to ashes by some few - often insulting, often passive aggressive - community members.

    I think the western world is numb to violence. It is everywhere. In the movies (and theaters) It's on the news, its in the games, its in the language. (War on drugs war on women war on terror)

    I agree that this game is a little more violent that I expected, though I don't know why since it is based on a pretty violent comic.

    The only shocking thing in the west any more are issues of race/class/gender. Everything else has been solved.
  • Demopan wrote: »
    those vocal, incredibly annoying atheists are always complaining when religion shows up.

    You mean like real life?
  • edited July 2012
    pffft just making him a Christian would be a gutless copout, make him a Muslim or a Scientologist.
  • edited July 2012
    Token black man isn't good enough so we need another token Christian in the game?
  • edited July 2012
    kayvent wrote: »
    Token black man isn't good enough so we need another token Christian in the game?

    You have something against black people?

    You don't like Christians?
  • edited July 2012
    You might actually have to do your job.
    You didn't just write that! No this was an illusion. My eyes are failing me.:mad:
  • edited July 2012
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    You didn't just write that! No this was an illusion. My eyes are failing me.:mad:

    No I didn't just write that. I wrote that yesterday.

    Check out the Editor for more information.
  • edited July 2012
    Christian.

    They should have made Kenny a Christian because it would add another dimension to his character. It might explain some of the decisions he makes (not trying to save Hershel’s son) and why he expects unfailing loyalty.(When killing Lilly’s Dad) It might make the character more relatable. It would also give the player a chance to hear a different perspective on the zombie situation. (the only one so far offered as to what is going on)

    And best of all for the California hippes who make this game it provides another way to jab at the ignorant southern folk.

    “I’m from Florida crazy shit just comes out my mouth.”

    I love it, don’t you?

    My two cents: I think in the next ep. Someone close to Kenny will have to be chosen between. A life or death choice like Doug/Carly or Lilly/Larry

    From my observations of Kenny I'm not seeing religious values at work. His actions seem more based in fear and ignorance (which is fine in a ZA). He's driven to protect only his family with impulsive "do something/anything NOW" reasoning.

    The game would benefit from someone of faith though. Someone like that priest in the movie Pitch Black. A servant of God could add an interesting dynamic of right/wrong, hope in the face of certain death, even comfort to those who have lost loved ones. Really see how humans cope with the challenges a ZA during those times when you're not madly hitting the "Q" then "E" key.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    From my observations of Kenny I'm not seeing religious values at work. His actions seem more based in fear and ignorance (which is fine in a ZA). He's driven to protect only his family with impulsive "do something/anything NOW" reasoning.

    The game would benefit from someone of faith though. Someone like that priest in the movie Pitch Black. A servant of God could add an interesting dynamic of right/wrong, hope in the face of certain death, even comfort to those who have lost loved ones. Really see how humans cope with the challenges a ZA during those times when you're not madly hitting the "Q" then "E" key.

    What about Jack the girl pretending to be a boy {oh wait thats Luis Luisa from episode 3]

    ok how about Riddick the ultimate badass
  • edited July 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    From my observations of Kenny I'm not seeing religious values at work. His actions seem more based in fear and ignorance (which is fine in a ZA). He's driven to protect only his family with impulsive "do something/anything NOW" reasoning.

    The game would benefit from someone of faith though. Someone like that priest in the movie Pitch Black. A servant of God could add an interesting dynamic of right/wrong, hope in the face of certain death, even comfort to those who have lost loved ones. Really see how humans cope with the challenges a ZA during those times when you're not madly hitting the "Q" then "E" key.

    Yep, yep that kind of stuff indeed. That's what we wanna see. that's what we came here for. To see humans cope with those sort of challenges. And to have people running around with the dead living and no one mentions any deity, even in spit.

    Seems..weird.

    but no, I wasn't saying Kenny was Christian, just saying he should have been, for the above stated reasons
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    What about Jack the girl pretending to be a boy {oh wait thats Luis Luisa from episode 3]

    ok how about Riddick the ultimate badass

    Yeah I took a look at Luis/Luisa and I'm comfortable saying I'm 65% sure that's a female....then again....
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