I can't believe it has come to this
I avoided this forum all day because I wanted to take a deep breath and calm down. Honestly I can't believe it has come to this.
Vainamoinen as I told you in private this is the first forum I ever participated in. Things like double post, how to quote multiple things at once, I just not know how to do.
Most of all I had no idea it was in bad taste to question a moderator in public. I chewed on that all day. I kept trying to convince myself that I should have contacted a moderator in private. Then I realized that I really did not do anything wrong. Why should my thoughts be secretive. Were not at work. It's not like I questioned my boss in front of a company meeting.
When did it become the job of a moderator to police the words of a rational statement? I would think being a moderator would consist of dealing with the people who are threatening others and basically a detriment to the rest of the forum users. I did not swear or threaten anyone. I am certainly not a detriment to the forum. I just don't see eye to eye about censoring my thread because you think I am trying to tell people to spam TellTaleGames. I certainly was not.
I just made my account a few days ago. I'm new. After reading all the posts and the comments from the company yes I formed a opinion that I think they rushed the development of the iOS game and that's what is holding up the release for the rest of us. It was only a opinion. I did not force it upon anyone. I certainly did not get irate when anyone disagreed. I welcomed comments and thoughts with a open mind.
Then I started a thread to see if other season pass owners felt taken advantage of.
It had to do with the delays that have been happening as well as paying full price for a game we were told would be a monthly episode release that has already been discounted once on Steam and made free to PSN Plus subscribers.
After 3 pages of comments where a good portion were folks who were upset but not over the edge I posted the TellTaleGames contact us email address's with descriptions of what each one was for. I said of you would like to let the copy know here is the contact address's.
One of those email address's I posted was a feedback address.
A feedback address. A address for feedback from customers.
You basically accused me of spamming the company because I would point out the delays and discounts. As a paying customer that is my right and not spam.
Basically I guess because I do not have positive feedback that my mail is spam. Is that the official position of the moderators. Folks with negative feedback are spam?
After 3 pages I was grilled by you for trying to instigate spamming the company. Grilled. Not discussed reasonably. I was sizzled in public by a moderator for something that I certainly did not do.
That's how I took your post anyway. Then you closed the thread right there being judge jury and executioner. The reason you gave on the thread was "As the discussion has obviously amalgamated with the original topic of this thread, I'm going to close this one."
Just because it's negative I guess it's not allowed and must be shutdown.
I asked for it in public to be opened back up because I disagreed. Again I was pretty much told how dare you question a moderator.
I disagree with the treatment I have received from the very moderators who are supposed to help people like me. Every day hard working people just like me who just want to voice their thoughts with others. I would like my thread back opened because I completly disagree why it was closed. It has nothing to do with the episode 3 discussion. The was no swearing. No threatening. No real reason to close it at all other then it was not all hugs and kisses for how the company has handled this game and it's customers.
Thank you to everyone who has supported me. I caught your words in the ep 3 discussion thread as well as some others. I'm not trying to start a revolution. Or a spam movement or anything like that. I just would like to hear if others season pass customes feel taken advantage of.
I'm going to apologize in advance for anything misspelled. It's a pain typing on these touch screen devices.
Vainamoinen as I told you in private this is the first forum I ever participated in. Things like double post, how to quote multiple things at once, I just not know how to do.
Most of all I had no idea it was in bad taste to question a moderator in public. I chewed on that all day. I kept trying to convince myself that I should have contacted a moderator in private. Then I realized that I really did not do anything wrong. Why should my thoughts be secretive. Were not at work. It's not like I questioned my boss in front of a company meeting.
When did it become the job of a moderator to police the words of a rational statement? I would think being a moderator would consist of dealing with the people who are threatening others and basically a detriment to the rest of the forum users. I did not swear or threaten anyone. I am certainly not a detriment to the forum. I just don't see eye to eye about censoring my thread because you think I am trying to tell people to spam TellTaleGames. I certainly was not.
I just made my account a few days ago. I'm new. After reading all the posts and the comments from the company yes I formed a opinion that I think they rushed the development of the iOS game and that's what is holding up the release for the rest of us. It was only a opinion. I did not force it upon anyone. I certainly did not get irate when anyone disagreed. I welcomed comments and thoughts with a open mind.
Then I started a thread to see if other season pass owners felt taken advantage of.
It had to do with the delays that have been happening as well as paying full price for a game we were told would be a monthly episode release that has already been discounted once on Steam and made free to PSN Plus subscribers.
After 3 pages of comments where a good portion were folks who were upset but not over the edge I posted the TellTaleGames contact us email address's with descriptions of what each one was for. I said of you would like to let the copy know here is the contact address's.
One of those email address's I posted was a feedback address.
A feedback address. A address for feedback from customers.
You basically accused me of spamming the company because I would point out the delays and discounts. As a paying customer that is my right and not spam.
Basically I guess because I do not have positive feedback that my mail is spam. Is that the official position of the moderators. Folks with negative feedback are spam?
After 3 pages I was grilled by you for trying to instigate spamming the company. Grilled. Not discussed reasonably. I was sizzled in public by a moderator for something that I certainly did not do.
That's how I took your post anyway. Then you closed the thread right there being judge jury and executioner. The reason you gave on the thread was "As the discussion has obviously amalgamated with the original topic of this thread, I'm going to close this one."
Just because it's negative I guess it's not allowed and must be shutdown.
I asked for it in public to be opened back up because I disagreed. Again I was pretty much told how dare you question a moderator.
I disagree with the treatment I have received from the very moderators who are supposed to help people like me. Every day hard working people just like me who just want to voice their thoughts with others. I would like my thread back opened because I completly disagree why it was closed. It has nothing to do with the episode 3 discussion. The was no swearing. No threatening. No real reason to close it at all other then it was not all hugs and kisses for how the company has handled this game and it's customers.
Thank you to everyone who has supported me. I caught your words in the ep 3 discussion thread as well as some others. I'm not trying to start a revolution. Or a spam movement or anything like that. I just would like to hear if others season pass customes feel taken advantage of.
I'm going to apologize in advance for anything misspelled. It's a pain typing on these touch screen devices.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Yup a few days ago. I'm pretty new.
You count your way I'll count mine. Some of you guys have been around here for years. Well over 1000 posts. I bet I have logged in a total of 20 days.....
lol.. You tried to make it sound like you've been around a few days and don't know what you're doing and that's your excuse for the double posts and such. So, there is a big difference between a few days and a couple months.
Actually that is kind of funny
And can we give him a hand for typing that wall of text on a touchpad? Wow.
So you buy a pair of your favorite jeans and a week later discover them on sale in another store. Should the original store your bought you jeans in be held accountable?
You're complaining in another thread about being flamed by other members; do you think that may have something to do your posts being consistently negative? To be honest, I only got halfway through your opening post here.
I get it, your not happy, you've had your say, now quit beating a dead horse and move on. I presume you actually like the game as you care enough to be upset. So perhaps you could discuss the merits of the game and your thought about the plot and characters.
Bitching really isn't getting you anywhere.
Fixed that for you. No need to thank me.
I'm still learning the touchpad. It's different then a keyboard..
Wrong call. Right call.. I said my peace. I have no ambition of picking a fight with the man and I am not going to keep arguing. However I do think I should be allowed to voice my frustration in a orderly fashion without being moderated.
There was never any illusion that this game was anything other than episodic and Telltale last communicated on this forum on August 10th, 8 days ago, which is more than you'd get from other developers. I'm guessing some of the issues you have had are system based, in which case other parties bear equal responsibility, are you ranting to them as well?
If he paid for the game why is he not allowed to voice his opinion?
Fixed that for you again. Naturally no need to thank me. Just being a good forum goer.
Oh, come now, there truly is no need to do such things to the posts of other people, right, right?
Evidently I'm not allowed to voice mine without editing, but perhaps it only counts if you're kicking the cat. Hypocrites.
You certainly are.. I never said you could not..
I did not edit your post. I'm not kicking you at all.
He never said you did. Anyone's allowed to voice their opinion or just share their voice, but within reason. Do you think the United States, or any country for that matter, would condone absolutely ANYthing being said above its soil, even the most heinous, derogatory, threatening and black-listed types of words and phrases? No. Same here; anyone can voice what they want about a product or event but there is a line to mind.
Also, Cyreen, just ignore that guy editing your posts via quoting.
1. I'm not the cat in question, that would be Telltale; and
2. No you didn't edit my posts but you're certainly quick to defend him.
Well you were way off base with your analogy so I brought it more in line with what actually happened. Your second post you responded in a fashion that did not address the things being said...So I just brought your response back on topic. Your opinions are still in there.... You could just say thanks and move on. Theres really no need to get all offended.
See there you go.
Though I do have to point out that you are complaining about being able to voice your opinion while trying to suppress other peoples. Then you follow up with "hypocrite"....Just saying.
I'm truly done with you. Bye.
I missed no point you made nor your attempts at sarcasm. Though you seem keen to ignore every point made and accuse people of complaining as a was to dismiss those points.
I'm truely sorry to see you go, but perhaps it is for the best. Have a nice day or night.
I am sorry. I misunderstood the post. I thought he was saying I edited his post.
I agree and disagree with your second part. Truly it depends on where and who your voicing the opinion on. If your standing on a public street and directing your opinion in that gray area to the us gov't the your well protected by the 1st amendment to say whatever you want. "First Amendment states that the government cannot limit your right to criticize the government"
However that only protects you agenst the gov and only in a public setting.
I completly agree with you 100% on the rest.
If you run your mouth and cross the line in a private forum on any subject it would be dependent the terms of agreement or the forum owner.
However it would be in poor taste to ban or censor someone in a forum just because. I would hope that person would be swearing and threatening others to be censored. Could you imangine censoring a reporter or journalist because he disagreed in a civil thread?
I just wanted to publicly say I do not think I did anything wrong in my thread. I believe it should not have been closed. I was curious why you can not question a mod in public post if you feel you did nothing wrong. I also wanted to share my thoughts and feelings on some other issues.
In regards to the 1st Amendment, the freedom of Speech: yeah, speech is free to be spoken. Namely JUST the privilege of speech, however. The content is still able to get the speaker in trouble, like with the example I posted. Sure, you're free to say something along those lines in the open, but the content acts as a double-standard. You can do something, therefore you can't.
To the last part, it depends on the reason for said censorship.
I did not know that all that. Thanks for the insight.
Guys, I seriously have enough of this stuff.
I have openly questioned the effect of the e-mails Cisko proposed and I will continue to do so.
Mods are thinking a lot about the "instigation to spam TTG support" issue, and where it applies. Sure you can post the relevant e-mail addresses if a relevant support issue comes up. But if you do that just in order to raise more and more posters e-mailing Telltale with exactly the same question - which is already answered to boot - then, yes, prepare to be reprimanded.
I have closed threads which were CLEARLY duplicates in the release date/ Telltale communication venting direction. None of those threads were deleted.
Cisko, keep this stuff in the release date thread. If you want to talk about THE GAME, feel free to open threads. If you have a support issue, post in the support forum. If you want to have a chat about forum rules, post in "General chat". Learn to edit your posts and multi-quote, and stop double posting. Next one of those random "me poor community member" threads in here, we'll have a problem.