ttg would be taking a huge risk killing any kid in a game.
i don't understand why anyone would justify killing children turning/undead/dying or other wise..
I don't really see how it would be a risk. In TWD series as a whole, children are no safer than the adults. It's not so much justification as it is "reality" (lack of a better word): in a zombie infested world, nobody is safe.
I don't really see how it would be a risk. In TWD series as a whole, children are no safer than the adults. It's not so much justification as it is "reality" (lack of a better word): in a zombie infested world, nobody is safe.
I agree. In the comic book series, which the game is based on, a baby is killed! Her mother is shot and falls on her.
And Shawn mentioned witnessing a kid getting his head blown off so it fits.
I don't want to see Clem die or anything but it seems fitting to have that kind of tough choice.
comics/ tv/ music vids/ probably even radio. have a different form/law/view of censor ship. horror/rape/murder like in the csi shows..no one bats eye lid. cos you are not involved in the act you are only a spectator.
my point being put any of that stuff in a game killing kids becomes 'interactive'.
which i think is why as far as i know bioshock barely got away with it..
I don't think CPR requires you to give mouth to mouth anymore. I think you can get away with just chest compressions. Have someone hold her head and another 2 people hold her arms and legs and give chest compressions.
You should still give mouth to mouth, but in this case mouth to nose would be far safer as you tilt the head back and "lock" the jaws with your fingers.
I pray to Odin you mean that in a way of telling us to shut up.
I meant if someone needs severe wound treatment treatment or has a case of the sniffles I am shoving something in their mouth so I don't get the chomps.
I don't really see how it would be a risk. In TWD series as a whole, children are no safer than the adults. It's not so much justification as it is "reality" (lack of a better word): in a zombie infested world, nobody is safe.
I thought about this as well. While Sophia did die in TWD, she didn't "die" on screen. Though Rick did shoot her corpse through the head..
I don't see why people should have a problem with it... part of what makes the Walking Dead imo is the deconstruction of society, its laws, morals. It would be silly for kids to be granted plot immunity in a setting where that element of order and its longevity (how long can peace last? will we always retain those values that define humanity, even in times of crisis? Or are they just a luxury?) is brought into question.
Also, how much above an adult's life would you place the life of a kid? You have the possibility to kill dozens of innocents in a video game; why should the life of 1 kid character be a scandal?
Besides, most kids are filthy little things... like mudcrabs.
Here take a seat . Where are we ? Oh just a little town called Hopeville isn't it inspiring now stay right there. I'll go get the drinks. No no stay there i'll be back. Goes back and launches the Nuke. "Mission completed :the Launch new area created The Courier's Mile."
Kenny is my best bud in my MAIN game the way I'm playing it the way I would.
He's only my enemy in the two games where I'm playing no where like I normally would. Kenny is the most realistic character in the series.
or possibly agreeing with kenny makes you less real??:eek: something to ponder while waiting for 3rd episode....or are you really waiting like the real people...MR. UNDERCOVER DEVELOPER lol jk but kenny is ok if u side with him fully everytime
First Id sac tap Kenny using my knee, and then throw him overboard. After that loose end is taken care of, then id pull out a funnel of some sort, put it in Clem's mouth while everyone holds her down and try to perform CPR. Ill be damned if Clem dies on me, Ill never let it happen...NEVEEEEEEEER!!!! >_>
being on a boat is very different to being locked in a small room and a small child is very different to a big adult, so in this situation i would pick Clementine up and empty her lungs of water and either just me or the others would hold her down i would give her CPR but the mouth to nose version (not mouth not mouth how do you think most of the zombies have lost their lips?) while me or another clamped her mouth shut i would get someone else to be near by with a weapon if she does turn, if the weapon fails you could always throw her over board.
i dont think kenny would just out of the blue kill Clementine, because the situation is totally different to the meat locker no way near as dangerous and also he did feel bad about killing larry so i think he would put more thought into it
Kenny's on thin ice with a lot of people apparently. That's just for killing an asshole imagine what happens when he hurts someone we like.
Im not pissed at Kenny for killing Larry, I'm glad he's dead. I just hate how Ive always sided with him throughout the game and when I have one disagreement with him, all of a sudden he treats me like i've always been against him and all this crap. When I was getting attacked by one of the brothers he just stood there and watched. When I saw that I was like "Ah HELL NO Kenny you bitch!" But then Lilly came to my rescue.
Kenny's on thin ice with a lot of people apparently. That's just for killing an asshole imagine what happens when he hurts someone we like.
i dont think kenny would hurt Clementine, he is a family man and i think most people (even though its sort of mean and cold) would say a child's life is more valuable and more important than an old man's (especially one with a heart condition) so everybody would want to give her a chance, but that doesnt mean they wont be bracing themselves to kill a zombie child or even tell/make lee back off if it goes on to long (more time than larry) and take her out.
i would be more worried about lilly she may claim hypocrisy (not seeing the difference between the meat locker and the boat) and shoot Clementine and Lee if you try and stop her
Im not pissed at Kenny for killing Larry, I'm glad he's dead. I just hate how Ive always sided with him throughout the game and when I have one disagreement with him, all of a sudden he treats me like i've always been against him and all this crap. When I was getting attacked by one of the brothers he just stood there and watched. When I saw that I was like "Ah HELL NO Kenny you bitch!" But then Lilly came to my rescue.
Pretty much what he said is the same reason i feel like i do about Kenny now. Because honestly when it gets down to it this type of stuff shows you people's true character.
I just hate how Ive always sided with him throughout the game and when I have one disagreement with him, all of a sudden he treats me like i've always been against him and all this crap. When I was getting attacked by one of the brothers he just stood there and watched.
Exactly like me.. I save his kid, twice, and wife, but if he don't (want to) help me NEXT time? I don't know..
First Id sac tap Kenny using my knee, and then throw him overboard. After that loose end is taken care of, then id pull out a funnel of some sort, put it in Clem's mouth while everyone holds her down and try to perform CPR. Ill be damned if Clem dies on me, Ill never let it happen...NEVEEEEEEEER!!!! >_>
Clearly the group collectively has short-term memory loss because I was probably the one who drowned her. Forget this silly life saving nonsense. :rolleyes:
Im not pissed at Kenny for killing Larry, I'm glad he's dead. I just hate how Ive always sided with him throughout the game and when I have one disagreement with him, all of a sudden he treats me like i've always been against him and all this crap. When I was getting attacked by one of the brothers he just stood there and watched. When I saw that I was like "Ah HELL NO Kenny you bitch!" But then Lilly came to my rescue.
The disagreement you had with Kenny involved a life threatening decision. Kenny saved your life in the pharmacy. Then when the time came to support him in the meat locker, you decided you might be able to save someone that just had a heart attack, which was highly unlikely. The more likely outcome if Kenny had not killed Larry was everyone in the locker dying. So if you look at it from Kenny's POV, you can see why he decided to not help you.
The disagreement you had with Kenny involved a life threatening decision. Kenny saved your life in the pharmacy. Then when the time came to support him in the meat locker, you decided you might be able to save someone that just had a heart attack, which was highly unlikely. The more likely outcome if Kenny had not killed Larry was everyone in the locker dying. So if you look at it from Kenny's POV, you can see why he decided to not help you.
i agree, but i think it was more that killing somebody for the safety of the group is a hard decision (he had to make) that is even harder if the whole group (including Lee) is against him, i think he was just in shock as to what he just did and he just freezes if he doesn't have Lee's support.
but if you dont try and help larry, lilly clearly wants you to die, when you call for help she just looks on with hatred hoping you are killed by Andrew
i agree, but i think it was more that killing somebody for the safety of the group is a hard decision (he had to make) that is even harder if the whole group (including Lee) is against him, i think he was just in shock as to what he just did and he just freezes if he doesn't have Lee's support.
but if you dont try and help larry, lilly clearly wants you to die, when you call for help she just looks on with hatred hoping you are killed by Andrew
Exactly why she's next on my 'list'.
I killed Larry, so I fully expect Lilly to be gunning for me. It's me or her!
I would first deal with Kenny just like Larry dealt with me in episode 1 (punch)
Then I would do everything I can to save her
I would do this no matter who it was even Kenny even though he is worse than Larry ever was
The disagreement you had with Kenny involved a life threatening decision. Kenny saved your life in the pharmacy. Then when the time came to support him in the meat locker, you decided you might be able to save someone that just had a heart attack, which was highly unlikely. The more likely outcome if Kenny had not killed Larry was everyone in the locker dying. So if you look at it from Kenny's POV, you can see why he decided to not help you.
You almost succeed as Larry begins to start breathing again before Kenny...
Admirable and brave. She could turn and bite your mouth off when you're giving her mouth to mouth. Then again, she could live. Bold gamble.
I know the game is over now, and we all know how that ended. But for the sake of this post... I would easily take the chance and give her mouth to mouth. If she dies, I would have to point in living, I would probably end up killing myself anyways if she was gone. If you had a kid, this wouldnt even be a question.
Personally i would try to save her. If it goes badly i will grab her and throw myself off the boat to die. If it goes well, we all live happily ever after. Its a good choice though, i can imagine some players agonizing over it. Would show how cold hearted some tough players really are.
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I don't really see how it would be a risk. In TWD series as a whole, children are no safer than the adults. It's not so much justification as it is "reality" (lack of a better word): in a zombie infested world, nobody is safe.
if they complain about the beating of hookers is gta...imagine it !!
I agree. In the comic book series, which the game is based on, a baby is killed! Her mother is shot and falls on her.
And Shawn mentioned witnessing a kid getting his head blown off so it fits.
I don't want to see Clem die or anything but it seems fitting to have that kind of tough choice.
comics/ tv/ music vids/ probably even radio. have a different form/law/view of censor ship. horror/rape/murder like in the csi shows..no one bats eye lid. cos you are not involved in the act you are only a spectator.
my point being put any of that stuff in a game killing kids becomes 'interactive'.
which i think is why as far as i know bioshock barely got away with it..
I meant if someone needs severe wound treatment treatment or has a case of the sniffles I am shoving something in their mouth so I don't get the chomps.
that'll make you popular fo sho..
Hey after how he been acting im pretty sure the group shall throw him off the boat lol.
depends on how you treated kenny doesn't it
I would choke him with Carley's batteries o.o
"Choke" is the right word??
I thought about this as well. While Sophia did die in TWD, she didn't "die" on screen. Though Rick did shoot her corpse through the head..
No, that's a spoiler for middle of season 2. There are two little girls who get shot in the show.
Here take a seat . Where are we ? Oh just a little town called Hopeville isn't it inspiring now stay right there. I'll go get the drinks. No no stay there i'll be back. Goes back and launches the Nuke. "Mission completed :the Launch new area created The Courier's Mile."
Kenny is my best bud in my MAIN game the way I'm playing it the way I would.
He's only my enemy in the two games where I'm playing no where like I normally would. Kenny is the most realistic character in the series.
or possibly agreeing with kenny makes you less real??:eek: something to ponder while waiting for 3rd episode....or are you really waiting like the real people...MR. UNDERCOVER DEVELOPER lol jk but kenny is ok if u side with him fully everytime
But yeah, I'd try to save her while taking whatever precautions I could.
I agree with you sir on this.
i dont think kenny would just out of the blue kill Clementine, because the situation is totally different to the meat locker no way near as dangerous and also he did feel bad about killing larry so i think he would put more thought into it
Im not pissed at Kenny for killing Larry, I'm glad he's dead. I just hate how Ive always sided with him throughout the game and when I have one disagreement with him, all of a sudden he treats me like i've always been against him and all this crap. When I was getting attacked by one of the brothers he just stood there and watched. When I saw that I was like "Ah HELL NO Kenny you bitch!" But then Lilly came to my rescue.
i dont think kenny would hurt Clementine, he is a family man and i think most people (even though its sort of mean and cold) would say a child's life is more valuable and more important than an old man's (especially one with a heart condition) so everybody would want to give her a chance, but that doesnt mean they wont be bracing themselves to kill a zombie child or even tell/make lee back off if it goes on to long (more time than larry) and take her out.
i would be more worried about lilly she may claim hypocrisy (not seeing the difference between the meat locker and the boat) and shoot Clementine and Lee if you try and stop her
Pretty much what he said is the same reason i feel like i do about Kenny now. Because honestly when it gets down to it this type of stuff shows you people's true character.
Exactly like me.. I save his kid, twice, and wife, but if he don't (want to) help me NEXT time? I don't know..
HELL YEAH!!
The disagreement you had with Kenny involved a life threatening decision. Kenny saved your life in the pharmacy. Then when the time came to support him in the meat locker, you decided you might be able to save someone that just had a heart attack, which was highly unlikely. The more likely outcome if Kenny had not killed Larry was everyone in the locker dying. So if you look at it from Kenny's POV, you can see why he decided to not help you.
i agree, but i think it was more that killing somebody for the safety of the group is a hard decision (he had to make) that is even harder if the whole group (including Lee) is against him, i think he was just in shock as to what he just did and he just freezes if he doesn't have Lee's support.
but if you dont try and help larry, lilly clearly wants you to die, when you call for help she just looks on with hatred hoping you are killed by Andrew
Exactly why she's next on my 'list'.
I killed Larry, so I fully expect Lilly to be gunning for me. It's me or her!
Then I would do everything I can to save her
I would do this no matter who it was even Kenny even though he is worse than Larry ever was
I know the game is over now, and we all know how that ended. But for the sake of this post... I would easily take the chance and give her mouth to mouth. If she dies, I would have to point in living, I would probably end up killing myself anyways if she was gone. If you had a kid, this wouldnt even be a question.