25$ for 15 hours of gameplay- worth it?

edited September 2012 in The Walking Dead
Personally, I don't have a ton of money. A lot of you seem to, and you can throw hundreds at video games weekly and still come out fine- I can't. I try to only buy games that I will get 1$/hr of gameplay out of- Battlefield 3, skyrim (WAY more than that here.) and a few others, old and new. I took a chance with TWD, and I really like it. But with how long it is between episodes and the fact that, as a PC gamer, I was forced to pay 25 bucks up front, I feel cheated.

You may argue that you can swap up your choices to milk more hours out of it, but I really don't like to change my choices and replay it all just to see what happens. The point in games like this, IMO, is that you play the way you would in real life if it took place. (For others, it's different.) Changing it up sort of makes it lose it's value for me.

Thoughts?

ALSO- Trolls, and just plain angry people, keep your opinions to yourself, I do not want to hear them.
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  • edited August 2012
    When I was a kid.. I used to spend a ton of money on arcade machines for often times a few minutes of playtime.... To me a game that entertains for under $30 is one heck of a bargain... Not all games need to be 80hr epics either.. if they were I wouldn't even play them.. because then I wouldn't have a life beyond that.
  • edited August 2012
    Where did you get 15 hours from?
  • edited August 2012
    I think it's a good deal. For a few bucks you get:
    1) A really good game set in a ZA (did I say good? I meant kick ass!)
    2) A forum to share your thoughts and predictions on the game with other WD fans
    3) Many episodes of talking dead where they comment on things being covered in the forum and answer fan questions.
    4) Participate in many polls from fans and TTG.
    5) some of the comments/pictures/animations from the fans are just plain funny and very creative.

    lastly, do what I'm doing with the game. Play one game all the way through. Stand by every decision you make and take the consequences whatever they may be for all 5 episodes. Then go through all 5 episodes making different choices on a whole new gameplay. There is your replayability and a better gaming experience in my opinion.

    Also, download something like Xfire to record your games. It helps with recall of the decisions you have made during the long wait between episodes.

    Hope this helps.
  • edited August 2012
    Number of hours alone is not a very good measure of worth.

    Amount of enjoyment is extremely important. $10 to see a fantastic 90 minutes movie is a much better investment than $10 to see a 120 minute shitty movie.
  • edited August 2012
    Hard to say really. Guess it depends how much money you have/are you a fan of Walking Dead or not. I personally find it better than most $50 games out there, but that isn't saying much these days sadly.
  • edited August 2012
    I'm not feeling cheated at all for this choice. And it isn't cemented to be 15 hours, because for all we know, they could make the future episodes longer. It's possible. Even then, I'm liking the current episodes so far, it's an emotional rollercoaster in a good way. In my opinion, it is more fun to go back to previous scenarios and change things up. I mean, to use your reference to real life, our choices would most likely be regretted as a result, or something happens with someone you thought was a good friend (*cough* KENNY *cough*) said or did something you don't like, costing you the friendship with said person. Then you'd want to go back and make that person's life a living hell in terms of choices, knowing how he'd pan out. Yes, I know his reaction varies depending on how you are with him, but in my game this is the case for me: he left me for dead, never helped me with the brothers after all I did for him, so I was tempted to go back to Episode 1 on again and redo everything, neglecting him.

    By the way, telling people who troll and "very angry people" to not post here is kind of ruining the question of "Thoughts?"...you're opening up yourself to criticism, both good and bad, when you post on here, to use the words of another on this forum. Just saying.
  • edited August 2012
    By my estimate it's 10 hours with somewhat higher than average replay value. Most games charge you 50 bucks for 6 hours of gameplay with no low value. I pay whatever price I'm asked to for a game I know I'm going to love with no thought on playtime or replay value. I don't buy something unless I'm dedicated to it.

    Really, if you're playing less than 40 for a game you enjoy that isn't a year old, then you're doing great.
  • edited August 2012
    To turn the question around, do I regret spending money on TWD? Absolutely not, I love a good story. 15 hours is your estimation. I do choose to play the other options because I appreciate the psychology and, with the upcoming episodes, the variables will increase.
  • edited August 2012
    It's definitely worth it. This game has a great amount of emotional storytelling and likable characters. Considering that you would want to play with other choices in mind, you're looking at a high replay value time.
  • edited August 2012
    Honestly so far I'm not impressed. Episode 1 was your standard opening and it succeeded in introducing the game. There wasn't a lot of meat there, but what they did give you was enjoyable enough. Episode 2 was a horrible let down though and seemed to offer far less than episode 1. To offer less than the opening is just meh and leaves me questioning their ability. I know they still have 3 episodes to change my mind, but so far its not looking good.
  • edited August 2012
    Honestly so far I'm not impressed. Episode 1 was your standard opening and it succeeded in introducing the game. There wasn't a lot of meat there, but what they did give you was enjoyable enough. Episode 2 was a horrible let down though and seemed to offer far less than episode 1. To offer less than the opening is just meh and leaves me questioning their ability. I know they still have 3 episodes to change my mind, but so far its not looking good.

    All the more reason to stick it out and see where the undead wind takes us, eh?
  • edited August 2012
    For me the cost is worth the product because I enjoy it that much.

    That being said, even though we have 3 save's I really have to force myself to replay the other 2 saves. The best part of this game is the first playthrough when everything is new and unknown. After that it's like reading a book you've already read. Sure you may enjoy it, but it's just not as good the second time around. Even if you make different choices, you get slight variations, but it's still the same story.

    TBH, I kinda rather goto youtube and watch other people's first playthrough's of the episodes than replay them myself.
  • edited August 2012
    I believe he's going by the average gameplay of each episode being 2-3 hours and a total of 5 episodes will be released.
  • edited August 2012
    Personally, I don't have a ton of money. A lot of you seem to, and you can throw hundreds at video games weekly and still come out fine- I can't. I try to only buy games that I will get 1$/hr of gameplay out of- Battlefield 3, skyrim (WAY more than that here.) and a few others, old and new. I took a chance with TWD, and I really like it. But with how long it is between episodes and the fact that, as a PC gamer, I was forced to pay 25 bucks up front, I feel cheated.

    Just curious, who forced you to pay the $25? Don't mean to sound like a jerk, but as an adult, if I don't want to pay for something, I don't buy it. You could argue they didn't live up to their bargain (so far), but to claim you were forced to buy it is kind of ridiculous.
    brunner wrote: »
    Number of hours alone is not a very good measure of worth.

    Amount of enjoyment is extremely important. $10 to see a fantastic 90 minutes movie is a much better investment than $10 to see a 120 minute shitty movie.

    So true. Length of game and the satisfaction we get from it are not causally related.
  • edited August 2012
    Personally, I don't have a ton of money. A lot of you seem to, and you can throw hundreds at video games weekly and still come out fine- I can't. I try to only buy games that I will get 1$/hr of gameplay out of- Battlefield 3, skyrim (WAY more than that here.) and a few others, old and new. I took a chance with TWD, and I really like it. But with how long it is between episodes and the fact that, as a PC gamer, I was forced to pay 25 bucks up front, I feel cheated.

    You may argue that you can swap up your choices to milk more hours out of it, but I really don't like to change my choices and replay it all just to see what happens. The point in games like this, IMO, is that you play the way you would in real life if it took place. (For others, it's different.) Changing it up sort of makes it lose it's value for me.

    Thoughts?

    ALSO- Trolls, and just plain angry people, keep your opinions to yourself, I do not want to hear them.

    Well, from the way you've explained it, this just isn't the game for you.TWD has strong replay value IMHO. I've played for about 25 hours on the first two episodes, so I feel that I'm getting my money's worth. If you don't enjoy that, howerver, then I can see where you'd be unhappy with the game. I'd advise you to get another game in the mean time, but with your budget issues, that may not be an option.
  • edited August 2012
    each to their own

    but i gotta agree with others no one forced you to buy an episodic game that is built one episode at a time.

    my view is ttgames is an investment. you pay to help make the game and have some input in to the final product which helps ttg make better games down the road.
  • edited August 2012
    I like the game I truly do, but with the lack of TT releasing it monthly and what seems like it will continue just releasing episodes spontaneously as opposed to a scheduled release, it is totally not worth it.
  • edited August 2012
    People pay $60 for games that SP (emphasis here because depending on the system, you're also having to pay online subscription fees that I add to the cost of MP on the whole) lasts a grand total of 6 hours. *shrugs*
    It's definitely about enjoyment versus how long the game lasts.
    Plus, with TWD you get the ability to replay with different choices that give you little bits of different.

    **I see that you're not so big on replaying.

    It's hard to gauge if it was worth it to you versus if the rest of us thought it was worth it.
    I'd include ability to replay in my list but you wouldn't so we're obviously going to have different values on why a game is worth its price.
  • edited August 2012
    kirby18 wrote: »
    I like the game I truly do, but with the lack of TT releasing it monthly and what seems like it will continue just releasing episodes spontaneously as opposed to a scheduled release, it is totally not worth it.

    As Milo said, "to each their own".

    You may not see it as worthy of any money because of some sort of schedule. But IMHO opinion, a true fan would wait regardless of how long. Some can play games in the meantime, others can do jobs or watch things or read things. To each their own.
  • edited August 2012
    all this petty bullshit gets old after while, i'd say in the last month the forum has become 90% bitching and moaning, dupelicate threads, more insulting, bans. new members bringing up the same old crap monthly release blah blah blah, they said mid august ware iz mai gaem i wont eet NAO..
  • edited August 2012
    all this petty bullshit gets old after while, i'd say in the last month the forum has become 90% bitching and moaning, dupelicate threads, more insulting, bans. new members bringing up the same old crap monthly release blah blah blah, they said mid august ware iz mai gaem i wont eet NAO..

    I'm getting sick of it too, perhaps a nice long break from the forum is in order? I'd imagine the relief would be tremendous; take a nice warm shower, watch an Amnesia let's play or two...actually that sounds fun, think I'll do it now.
  • edited August 2012
    I'm getting sick of it too, perhaps a nice long break from the forum is in order? I'd imagine the relief would be tremendous; take a nice warm shower, watch an Amnesia let's play or two...actually that sounds fun, think I'll do it now.

    you're welcome!
  • edited August 2012
    I took a chance with TWD, and I really like it. But with how long it is between episodes and the fact that, as a PC gamer, I was forced to pay 25 bucks up front, I feel cheated.

    ya i know theres different economic possitions and all but i think 25$ for this game is a good deal specially because you know it has alot of replayability leaving aside the fact that most of the new games cost around 60$ and only have 5-6 hours long story modes.
    The point in games like this, IMO, is that you play the way you would in real life if it took place. (For others, it's different.)
    Changing it up sort of makes it lose it's value for me.

    I know that to each their own but you do know that the developers might be basing their whole project around the idea that their players are going to go back and try all the different outcomes.

    Now to the main question is why are you in pc gaming if you think you are being ripped off 25$ because a game is not "long enough" and all that because you don't want to replay a game thats meant to be replayed. not trying to fall into stereotypes but pc gaming tends to be expensive.
  • edited August 2012
    ALSO- Trolls, and just plain angry people, keep your opinions to yourself, I do not want to hear them.
    You ask people their opinions then you say for them to keep their opinions to themselves? Thats kind of out of place mate, should have just told the angry people to calm down and you didn't mean any insult by it...

    I don't feel cheated out of the game, the fifth EP could be more than 2 hours long though, I Just wish they would release ep3 already, but that publication process with sony/microsoft/steam (less so steam sense they had TWD's achievements up like 3 days before release for the second episode) keeps delaying it every time.
    Awesoke wrote: »
    Just curious, who forced you to pay the $25? Don't mean to sound like a jerk, but as an adult, if I don't want to pay for something, I don't buy it. You could argue they didn't live up to their bargain (so far), but to claim you were forced to buy it is kind of ridiculous.

    My friend he mean't he was forced to buy the season pass--which I think you are forced to do off of the TWD website!
  • edited August 2012
    I think it's better cod which is 60 dollars for 10 hours of gameplay.
  • edited August 2012
    It all fine and dandy in the end i just want the rest of my game and thats it im no longer buy a damn thing from these guys after great games love them all but the freakin tellong us this and telling us that and not following up and not so much as a aword from them is enough to turn me away no longer about the game to some of us so all the fanny boys can just shut their traps lol now its just simple customer relations which they are poorly lacking at the moment love taletell but they teally suck at keeping us updated except to show us all this hyped ass footage which is like nothing but teasing.
  • edited August 2012
    Since this game is much better than the TV show and has given me more than most videogames do, in terms of storytelling and characters, I would personally shell out even more money for The Walking Dead!

    My only hope is that they manage to keep up the quality of the storytelling with further episodes. May they take as long as they have to.
  • edited August 2012
    Well to me it's worth it cause it's a really great game! It brings me much enjoyment :3 I didn't buy the season pass.. throwing down 5$ every couple months isn't too bad of a deal in my opinion!

    I get what you're saying about the playthrough. I play my first save all the way through just sticking with the choices I make like it's real life.. then I have my Doug save and Carley save that I play through on just to check out the other scenarios :) (oh and I saved Doug on my first save :D)

    But anyways, I guess it's really just a matter of opinion whether you feel if it's worth it or not :)
  • ArthurVArthurV Telltale Alumni
    edited August 2012
    Journey cost me $15 and my wife and I played through it in 2 hours. I do not regret my purchase for a second. The game was amazing. Conversely, I bought Xenoblade for $50, spent over 100 hours on it, and also enjoyed it tremendously.

    For me, the time-to-cost ratio is not what makes for a great game: it's the feelings the game elicits in the player. I can't put a price on emotions.
  • edited August 2012
    I think of a couple things on value. Is the thing I am doing enjoyable? That is key, I value my time far more than I do my money. 25 dollars is roughly enough for 2 people to go out and have dinner. Hardly a major purchase, for most people 2 hours of work to afford. So 2 hours of fun for 5 bucks is a good rate.
  • edited August 2012
    Mass Effect is $60 dollars for about 30+ hours of gameplay. Portal 2 was $60 for 10 hours.
  • edited August 2012
    I have bought some games for 60 then played for like two hours and never wanted to touch them again. I bought Mount and Blade for like 7 dollars on sale and have 100 hours. Minecraft is even worse I probably have 500 hours into that game. But something more theatrical like TWD will not give you those kind of hours.
  • edited August 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Mass Effect is $60 dollars for about 30+ hours of gameplay. Portal 2 was $60 for 10 hours.

    which thanks to the free dlc ingame map builder is now alot more even infinite..
  • edited August 2012
    Kane & Lynch 2, not even 3 hours. CoD MW3 took me 3,5 hours to finish. Was sort of lame, as we planned to play a game through while we were drinking. Well, in the end we were only drinking.
  • edited August 2012
    Silent Hill 2: Two and a half hours every several months for the rest of my life. I think I bought two copies though, so what, 50 bucks? Still a great investment.
  • edited August 2012
    each to their own

    but i gotta agree with others no one forced you to buy an episodic game that is built one episode at a time.

    my view is ttgames is an investment. you pay to help make the game and have some input in to the final product which helps ttg make better games down the road.

    Sorry, I was dealing with some storm prep and didn't get back to this topic.

    To clarify what I meant about being forced to pay 25$ is that as far as I know, there is no way for Pc players to buy one episode at a time to see how you like it- just the season pass.

    I don't see how asking trolls to keep out of the topic is a bad thing. I don't want just good opinions, but I don't want people to come here with the intention of angering somebody else or with the intention of taking their own anger out on me for my own opinions. If we cannot have a civilized discussion, then the other party is obviously not worth talking to. Neither party will get their point across. That's what I meant by that statement.

    I am well aware of the fact that many 60 dollar games (MW3, and a few others.) only have 10 hour singleplayer storylines, but those are notorious for sucking anyway, plus people buy them for the multiplayer. If anyone else believed in the 1$/hr thing as I do, they would get way more than 60 hours out of a game like MW3. (Not a fan of it myself.) Also, those games usually get the crap hyped out of them, and that should be a sure sign right there that it is NOT worth 60 dollars and is simply a cash grab. I do not feel that TellTale is attempting to grab our cash and run, though. I'm a fan of TellTale games when I can afford them, but they are always over too fast and it leaves me feeling sort of underwhelmed.

    I really just want to see if anyone else feels the way I do, and if they don't, I'd love to hear how they feel about it. (Trolls excluded, for reasons stated above.)

    Some of you seem to assume I'm angry for some reason, or that I'm trying to start a flame war, or whatever other strange ideas you may have in your head. I'm not. If you re-read my original post, nowhere did I bitch or moan. I stated my opinion in a calm way.

    If I go to see a movie, no matter how good it is, if I pay 15-25 bucks to get in and see it, it isn't worth my money. (Not sure what the prices of tickets are in other parts of the US, but where I live, it's anywhere from 20 to 25 bucks a pop. 50 bucks [Not including candy, soda, etc.] to take my girlfriend out to see a movie? Geez. Maybe for dinner at a pretty decent dinner someplace, or a gift, but not just for a quick movie. DVDs can be more or less expensive depending on how popular the movie was.) I'm definitely glad TellTale didn't go the Activision route and charge 60 bucks for this game, though. (I'm certain many more of you would be griping about it if they did.)

    If the future episodes/seasons are longer, then that would be great. I would be ecstatic. If any of you can honestly tell me that you weren't even a little bit upset with how quickly each episode was over, I'll be surprised. ;)

    I really don't mean to bash TellTale. I truly believe they put their heart into their products, and they really work hard on them. It definitely shows, and for that, they have my respect.
  • edited August 2012
    ArthurV wrote: »
    Journey cost me $15 and my wife and I played through it in 2 hours. I do not regret my purchase for a second. The game was amazing. Conversely, I bought Xenoblade for $50, spent over 100 hours on it, and also enjoyed it tremendously.

    For me, the time-to-cost ratio is not what makes for a great game: it's the feelings the game elicits in the player. I can't put a price on emotions.

    I completely agree with that statement!

    I got Nascar 2012 on Xbox, store bought full game for $49.99 and was more dissapointed in that game than any other ever.

    When it works right, it's great with the graphic's and physics, but the problem was and still is the game was released un-finished. The glitches and bug's were so bad, making the game practiacly un-playable.

    It was announced that 2 patches would be coming in months to fix the more severe issues. How to you release a full version game for full price knowing full well they would need patches to fix known issues?

    Money!

    I know many people who pretty much quit that game untill after the patches and still some glitches and issues remain.. It is much better now, but still not 100% right. And, there are no more patches or fixes coming because they are working on Nascar 2013. I will NOT buy!

    TellTale may have delays, but they do provide a quality product at a reasonable price. I would so much rather wait than get them monthly and have to wait for fixes.
  • edited August 2012
    If I had a choice between BF3 and TWD game, I would definitely chose TWD because it is much more enjoyable than BF3. It all depends on your taste, so I don't feel cheated. BTW I have about 100 playing hours in BF3 so I know that game ^^
  • edited August 2012
    So you made a thread asking for thoughts and you complain about people sharing their opinion. What the fuck is the point of this thread if you're just going to toss peoples opinions to the side. I only had to pay 20 bucks and I think it's worth it. I have 6 hours + on each episode because I use all the 3 save slots for different choices. So it is worth it for me. 30+ hours of game play for 20 bucks? Fine by me.
  • edited August 2012
    as i said man they coulda announce a 3 month release period id still would have paid its the fact they said a monthly releases and now up and say periodically releases thats borderline false advertising dunno about most people but that what will come back and bite a company in the ass....on that note 15 hours for 25 bucks is hella worth it.
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