The Traitor

edited September 2012 in The Walking Dead
My thoughts are larry despite being dead he could of been hording food for himself, of course if the thieving is on going it isn't larry but it could then be lilly. she would blame everyone else to undermine lee and kenny causing the group to implode and well who the fuck knows !
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  • edited August 2012
    Watch the traitor be Duck. :P
  • edited August 2012
    How can it possible be Larry if he died?
  • edited August 2012
    Could be something before they went to the St. John's..or during. We never know since they took their sweet time getting up to the farm. Could also be Ben, since he arrived late with Carley, in my game.
  • edited August 2012
    Drbg wrote: »
    How can it possible be Larry if he died?

    he could of been doing to for months in the gap between ep1 and ep2 his thinking being he and lilly would survive.

    but of course lilly may or may not know and thus think it's someone else, using lee to find the evidence, she can shift the blame to who ever she wants to get rid of like kenny (depends on choices players make).
  • edited August 2012
    I hope it's Lilly and I get to gather evidence on her wrong doing. Then I'd go all Phoenix Wright on her ass.

    "The one who actually committed the crime... IS YOU!"
  • edited August 2012
    Merc wrote: »
    I hope it's Lilly and I get to gather evidence on her wrong doing. Then I'd go all Phoenix Wright on her ass.

    "The one who actually committed the crime... IS YOU!"
    *Cornered Music Theme Plays*
  • edited August 2012
    I think its Kenny, he was planning on leaving anyways and hes gonna need to bring food with him so yea. Also im not sure if its an inside joke but whos the one armed man? :?
  • edited August 2012
    I think its Kenny, he was planning on leaving anyways and hes gonna need to bring food with him so yea. Also im not sure if its an inside joke but whos the one armed man? :?

    The Mask meme. I don't know if it appears before that, though.
  • edited August 2012
    Speaking of theft, I just noticed the
    bandit
    in the trailer telling the group "You don't
    [expletive] steal from us." I started thinking of the car at the end of the last episode.
  • edited August 2012
    Xirsche wrote: »
    The Mask meme. I don't know if it appears before that, though.

    I believe the line from The Mask is actually a reference to The Fugitive.

    But as for the traitor, I can see it being Kenny or Ben. Kenny because he doesn't really seem to care about anyone else but his family. And he's the most anxious about leaving the motel, so it wouldn't be too surprising if he decided to give the group a little push in that direction. And Ben of course is relatively new. He didn't exactly receive a warm welcome either, so it's not like he has as much motivation to be loyal.

    Given Lilly's reactions in the trailer, her being the traitor would be... odd. But then, I wouldn't put it past her.

    Then again, it could be that there is no traitor, and everyone in the group is just starting to become paranoid and jumping to conclusions.
  • edited August 2012
    Katjaa being a mom, maybe she was hiding food for the kids since Lilly's priority was keeping the adults strong. Maybe it's Ben, feeling insecure about his place in the group. He is still a kid, despite being tall and gangly.

    I doubt if it was Lilly, given her righteousness in the preview.
  • edited August 2012
    I picked the Lee/Kenny option but I think it is Kenny. Since Lilly hates him and is the one who determines who gets fed each day, Kenny is lifting extra food to make sure his family gets fed from the food he took from the car.
  • edited August 2012
    I don't like the choices at all.

    Why would it be Clem AND Duck? Are they working as one? So Clem didn't listen to (m)Lee at all?

    Lee or Kenny? Kenny is not my bud! I don't even want him to be mentioned on my "line"...
  • edited August 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    Katjaa being a mom, maybe she was hiding food for the kids since Lilly's priority was keeping the adults strong. Maybe it's Ben, feeling insecure about his place in the group. He is still a kid, despite being tall and gangly.

    I doubt if was Lilly, given her righteousness in the preview.

    Could be Ben, but knowing how precarious his standing in the group is, I doubt he would knowingly jeopardize it. But then again, it could be him. :)

    I'm thinking the most likely person is Kenny. The group didn't exactly welcome him in the drug store so he has his reservations about the group aside from Lee and Clementine. I don't wanna think too far ahead. I'm gonna ruin it for myself!
  • edited August 2012
    im the traitor (lee)
  • edited August 2012
    My money's on Duck. And no, not because I dislike the kid, but just because it's his father that has been as angry and reckless as Larry was, even being the one to insist on taking Food/Supplies that wasn't there. I do, however, recognize that things might go differently in other folk's playthrough, but, I don't know, just have a feeling.
  • edited August 2012
    Time to put on the smart glasses for some Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
  • ArthurVArthurV Telltale Alumni
    edited August 2012
    Man, I love Phoenix Wright. I was also a huge fan of Ghost Trick. Fantastic spiritual successor.
  • edited August 2012
    ArthurV wrote: »
    Man, I love Phoenix Wright. I was also a huge fan of Ghost Trick. Fantastic spiritual successor.

    Oh man, Ghost Trick was a great game. Loved the plot twist at the end.

    Edit: Though the last case in Phoenix Wright 3 will always hold a special place in my heart.
  • edited August 2012
    Sorry but I can't believe it will be Lilly, Duck or Kenny. It's just too obvious. It can't be Clem because she was so against stealing from that car. If someone is stealing from the group it has to hit home for Lee story-wise.

    I think it has to be Doug/Carley that has been taking the food. In episode two, both Carley and Doug turned down when you offer them rations which I found remarkable. I really like Carley and it will bug me to no end if she's the one that has been stealing food but regardless it will be in the spirit of the TWD. I'm curious to see how such a situation plays out and how I will handle it... Probably not well.
  • edited August 2012
    My thoughts are larry despite being dead he could of been hording food for himself, of course if the thieving is on going it isn't larry but it could then be lilly. she would blame everyone else to undermine lee and kenny causing the group to implode and well who the fuck knows !

    I agree because Lilly acted pissed off when Larry didn't get any food and didn't Mark say at the start of episode 2 that they had loads of food and it just seemed to go fast? Maybe Lilly sneaked food for Larry & herself. But i think it could be ether Lilly/Larry or Kenny. The way Kenny acted it does not take much to say he could have been sneaking food for Himself,Duck and Katjaa. We seen how he acted like he would betray the whole group just to save Duck (Which i think we would never let him do that and he would be out of the group in 1 minute if he tried any crap like that.
  • edited August 2012
    Sorry but I can't believe it will be Lilly, Duck or Kenny. It's just too obvious. It can't be Clem because she was so against stealing from that car. If someone is stealing from the group it has to hit home for Lee story-wise.

    I think it has to be Doug/Carley that has been taking the food. In episode two, both Carley and Doug turned down when you offer them rations which I found remarkable. I really like Carley and it will bug me to no end if she's the one that has been stealing food but regardless it will be in the spirit of the TWD. I'm curious to see how such a situation plays out and how I will handle it... Probably not well.

    I COULD see it being Clem, depending upon how you have influenced her.

    Based on the preview, it seems that someone has been stealing food and HIDING it (Lee finds the bag of food in the vent). I think there was some sort of suggestion that somebody is taking the food, perhaps not for themselves, but to make the situation seem more dire than it really is at the motor inn.

    Kenny is about the only person that has outwardly suggested that they leave - so I doubt it will be him as that is the OBVIOUS choice. But Clementine is thoughtful, and she pays attention to what is being said. It is possible that, over hearing conversations amongst the adults, that she has decided they need to leave the motor inn. It's also possible that she is being directly influenced by Lee (when he agrees with Kenny that they need to leave), or that she came to the conclusion on her own. If it is the latter, I can see her needing to CONVINCE Lee and the other adults to leave the motor inn, to show them that if they stay they WILL starve. Depending on your choice involving the abandoned car, she could feel herself justified in stealing by saying it is for the greater good, or that it doesn't really matter (everyone steals from the car, anyway).
  • edited August 2012
    I take my vote back, I don't suspect Doug/Carley anymore.
    I have a feeling its Kenny.
    Aside from the fact that Macon is already so "tapped" as he said, why is Kenny so keen on leaving the motel ?

    The persistence of his idea that he had since episode 2 made me a bit suspicious.
    And during the group discussion, Kenny either mentions that they can "sort" it out or reprimands about Lilly's bossiness tells me his next response would be something like

    "Yeah, I did that. You're not the only leader here" kind of statement.
  • edited August 2012
    I have a feeling it might be Carley... I mean like someone pointed out when we offered her at the last episode some of the food, she didn't wanted it.

    I also remember from a very soon trailer (that was removed quickly) about Episode 2, that Lilly said to Lee that Carley have some food and you better not take it from her.
  • edited August 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    I picked the Lee/Kenny option but I think it is Kenny. Since Lilly hates him and is the one who determines who gets fed each day, Kenny is lifting extra food to make sure his family gets fed from the food he took from the car.

    Exactly the same vote and reason's why!

    Even though, I'll still play my main playthrough as Kenny's pal, i'll try to let it slide depending on what exactly has happened.. It's all about the boat for me.
  • edited August 2012
    I voted for Ben, but now that I know someone in the group is a BENedict Arnold I'm going to replay episode II and closely scrutinize everyone's actions/reactions/dialog and body language! This is a great story plot, I mean who doesn't love a good Who Done It mystery right? :D
  • edited August 2012
    ozzmann wrote: »
    I voted for Ben, but now that I know someone in the group is a BENedict Arnold I'm going to replay episode II and closely scrutinize everyone's actions/reactions/dialog and body language! This is a great story plot, I mean who doesn't love a good Who Done It mystery right? :D

    Lol for all we know they could of just thought of this idea during the creation of episode 3, and this was never in the orignal design of ep 3.
  • edited August 2012
    I think its Kenny, he was planning on leaving anyways and hes gonna need to bring food with him so yea. Also im not sure if its an inside joke but whos the one armed man? :?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFldSKSCTkk
  • edited August 2012
    I think it might be Clem/Duck,mostly Clem.We can see Lilly pointing a gun to her,and I'm sure she wouldn't do that without the reason... :)
  • edited August 2012
    Bearcules wrote: »
    Speaking of theft, I just noticed the
    bandit
    in the trailer telling the group "You don't
    [expletive] steal from us." I started thinking of the car at the end of the last episode.

    Spot on IMO, that car in the Forrest had to belong to the bandits, we saw them on the way to the farm too. I think it's the same guy to boot.

    The traitor? I haven't the faintest idea, but I think it may be Kenny, because of the whole Lilly thing.
  • edited August 2012
    / means or in the poll not and..

    yup the onearmed man is a mask meme/fugitive reference cookies to those who got it ;)

    reason why i grouped the polls is cos larry is now dead but most people know how close lilly and larry had been.

    lee (being the player, why would we have to go looking for the bag if we stole it's contents to hide, would be retarded..)

    clem n duck the kids (scooby doo style)

    ben and katjaa being thr least likely

    also to save space in the poll ;)
  • edited August 2012
    Now that I think about it.. IT HAS TO BE BEN!!!
  • edited August 2012
    There might be no traitor at all, and Lilly's just being overly paranoid and linking a bunch of little accidents, misplaced stuff, and other things together.
  • edited August 2012
    Maybe the traitor depends on the choices you have made previously and how you have acted towards each person, and is a different person in each playthrough? Unlikely, but it would be pretty cool.
  • edited August 2012
    Well, let's take a look at everyone's motivations...

    Larry: Trying to protect himself and his daughter, could have been stealing some of the food, but I think that's probably unlikely.

    Lilly: Getting more detatched from the group due to the death of her dad. She could also be leaving for woodbury and taking food and supplies for when/if she takes off on her own.

    Clem: Could be stealing due to how she is being brought up by lee. She may be stealing after seeing lee and everyone else steal from the car, or maybe not if you didn't loot the car.

    Duck: Wouldn't surprise me. His father's attitude could be rubbing off on him.

    Lee: Pretty unlikely. I think we would know about it.

    Kenny: Getting more detatched. Doesn't really care about anyone but his family, wants to keep them fed.

    Ben: New to the group. May not be treated as a full member of the group. Also, he is young, and naive.

    Katjaa: Don't really think it's her. Maybe the same reasons as Kenny.

    Doug: Can't think of a good reason. Haven't done a doug playthrough yet.

    Carley: Can't think of a good reason. Carley seems to be a bit more isolated, really only close to Lee. Then again, she could be setting someone up in order to get Lee into full control of the group.

    One Armed Man: wat.
  • edited August 2012
    it's a joke

    seriously... ;)

    :rolleyes:
  • edited August 2012
    One Armed Man: wat.

    A good indication of age and/or culture.
  • edited August 2012
    Just to be clear: I get the reference. I was just saying that as I was confused as to why people were voting for it :)
  • edited August 2012
    have you see the other polls in threads ? some of them have a 'joke' choice it's how we roll here ;)
  • edited August 2012
    I'm not exactly sure why or what the "traitor" is doing from what I've seen in the trailer. Lilly makes a comment about "trading" which makes me assume that someone is dealing with the bandits much like the St. Johns with their BBQ Mark legs.
    But then again, maybe someone, like a lot of you seem to think, is taking it for themselves or for their family/loved ones.
    Either way, I'm not sure it's anyone in the group. Could be Ben but I think Lilly might just be setting all this up for some reason.
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