Bring ***** Back! ( or maybe ***** )
My Observation
I'm not much of a doctor but I am quite an observer. I watched Carley's death a lot of times ( it's torture ) and I can see that she got hit in her left cheek. Sorry don't know bout' Doug
My stupid reason:
What if some good professional healer "Samaratin" saw him/her and healed him/her. I've watched a lot dramas and somehow those people who get shot in the face or body still manages to survive. Maybe
they will somehow just get an eyepatch or something, but they will still be alive.
I'm not much of a doctor but I am quite an observer. I watched Carley's death a lot of times ( it's torture ) and I can see that she got hit in her left cheek. Sorry don't know bout' Doug
My stupid reason:
What if some good professional healer "Samaratin" saw him/her and healed him/her. I've watched a lot dramas and somehow those people who get shot in the face or body still manages to survive. Maybe
they will somehow just get an eyepatch or something, but they will still be alive.
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But if she did survive, it would just prove to the fanbase how much of a badass Carley is, or how stupid of a decision it was to eliminate her completely so soon.
Carley (A petite woman) was shot in the face at close range, collapsed immediately, left by the side of the road, shot out in the open in zombie infested woods. I don't know my friend.
Also it seeme like she was dead before she hit the ground so the bullet probably went through her cheek and destroyed her cerebellum and upper spinal cord. On top of all of that, its a zombie apocalypse going on and you would probably have no access to a top notch hospital.
Even if you did have access to a hospital, the drive there would....nevermind.
Rest in peace Carley.
I miss her.
Well, if the bullet didn't killed her, I think the zombies would go for Lilly, and maybe won't even notice Carley, but well, sadly I don't think we'll see her again
Coming to think of the end of Fight club when discussing the lethality of gunshoot to the head... doubt that someone would stand after taking a shoot at such a close range despite low caliber.
Also, if Telltale decided to let the character somehow turn up in episode 4 or 5, it would feel pretty cheap. IIRC, Kirkman has already stated that in the world of the Walking Dead, you just don't meet people twice. This is all the more true for definitely dead people.
We need to have a chat with Merle on the TV series.
...and sorry guys, Carley is gone.
Again, I think we need to be clear on something.
TTG is not Robert Kirkman/Fatman, Fatman/Robert Kirkman is not TTG.
Morgan was the only exception to that, at least that I can remember (in the comics). Also, please use your mighty bad-ass Vainamoinen powers to prevent this board from turning into a Mass Effect community outcry to have TTG change their story in anyway. :P
If the outcry was there, I certainly would not abuse my mighty mod powers to oppress it.
But I don't think it really is there, because most community members understand the narrative purpose. The Walking Dead series in whatever form is about killing off the people you like most when you least expect it in the most violent way possible. I don't like it, but that is the effing principle of the entire franchise. To oppose it (for any other reason than, say, finding the effort TTG put in the Ca/Do-branches lacking) would mean not liking zombie stories to begin with.
The story says: This character dies. Asking for a return of that character is a bit of a betrayal of your own feelings when you experienced the scene for the first time. If there's no finality, if the narrators don't mean "final" when they display "final", you will feel less emotional reaction in this scene. For what Telltale wanted to achieve - the grief, the anger, the shock, the moment of disbelief - this is the way it had to be done.
Mass Effect 3 had a short crappy ending (and now has a long crappy ending) in which its creators show zero understanding of basic storytelling principles and, worst of all, zero understanding of the spirit of their own creation. I can say with absolute certainty that the latter will not happen to TWD game.
Yes, you brought up a lot of good points and ME3 does have a crappy ending. It felt like I lost or screwed up somewhere. Shepard dead, relays gone, fleet trapped around Earth and crew stranded somewhere else. This is victory? WTF!!? :eek:
However, this is not a TV show or a book, this is supposed to be a RPG where the player is in control and shaping the story. So when a beloved character we enjoy interacting with is suddenly taken away in a gun shot, its going to hit some of us a lot harder because we're in the middle of it and not outside looking in like reading a comic book. I just hope the writers keep that in mind and be careful when using another beloved character for the next shocking moment.
It's more like interactive fiction.
You choose how the story unfolds. But there's a predetermined semi-concrete structure and narrative eventuality in which you make your choices within.
Don't tell me the loss of carly isnt serious!..
And I can't understand why so many threads have been started because of it.
What if this were real and your wife, gf, whatever, the love of your life, your soulmate, was suddenly killed? You cant just rewind and try again!
The more shocking and distressing the better imo!
I'm really annoyed because of this. I bought the game thinking I'd be able to make decisions that matter, instead I get to choose who gets an apple or banana. We should have had the choices and dialogue there to save Carley, one way or another.
And to those saying life is hard in a zombie apocalypse; shut up, it's a game. We play games for fun and not to be annoyed and lied to by SEEMINGLY money greedy developers.
And I've pretty much given up on this game for now. I got up to the point where you find that notepad with instructions on how to start the train, but felt no reason to go on with the terrible characters being introduced and the ones that we still have.
There's no reason that Carley can't be brought back some way. I'm not saying the devs bring her back as she survived a gunshot to the face by some miracle, I'm saying they simply add the dialogue and choices now before continuing with episode 4 (They can't really say no to it for any reason other than 'time constraints' or 'money problems', which they likely will) and include her in episode 4 and the rest. It doesn't have to be easy, but you know..
Same goes for Doug.
Dude, I totally know how you feel. I find the whole episode depressing to the point where I lost all enthusiasm to carry on with the series. I reached the end of the episode, but I can't seem to bring myself to replay it. Unfortunately, the whole series is designed to break your sane mind, and it's a credit to TTG for creating characters that make you care this way.
I would love for Carley to somehow make a comeback. But I have to admit the chance of that is non-existent.
Was her death serious? Yes 100%
Is bringing her back like Dragon Ball Z a serious idea? Yes -100%
The only thing they could do is create an addon / patch with additional sequences.
Lots of games have more content added. I think it would be easier for telltale to release supplementary content later after the pressure of releasing this game is relieved.
PS: I will totally harass telltale for additional content for this great game when said/done.
Interesting idea, but it would only feel fake.
Still 1-up for Carley fans for the continued support.
TWD's story is awesome because Carley (and Doug) dying is remembered by the rest of the characters and may snap back in subsequent episodes as being important. There are still two left, remember?
The writer wants this scene to stay with us all throughout the game. And maybe even after that.
Nothing in game storytelling is better than seeing loss and fear done right. When a player doesn't land on their feet, and finds themselve sharing identical feelings to his character. Not just watching their character feel something.
You'll love yourself and the game more later for toughing through it. Much more than you'd appreciate that boring game where only the positive factors stayed permanent. Easy and exciting do not co-exist.
Out of all of the characters (other than Lee), I could only see Carley or Kenny coming back from seemingly insurmountable odds against them. She is tough, well liked and an enjoyable character. For her to make an appearance later, say with a nice scar on the side of her face, would be unexpected and fresh in a fiction that is frequently killing characters off in whichever ways it feels like.
Now, even with the amount of people that want Carley back, how many of those people are going into Ep4 & Ep5 fully expecting this? Quite near none. I know I'm not. It would be very left field, and if handled right, could be a very good experience. For such a thing to happen it would feel like for once, you get something good to happen to you.
I understand that the fiction is intentionally dark, but in real life do crappy things constantly, and unrelentingly, with not a single good thing? Perhaps sometimes, but it would break my suspension of disbelief more if the story continued to throw more and more bad things at me, with not a single good event happening. Ep3 culminated with a large amount of deaths, and if it keeps up like this the story will be over-dark, resulting a break in my suspension of disbelief. To bring back a seemingly dead character, especially a well-liked one would be welcoming in its ability to lighten the darkness.
"tailored to your play style"
aka
"suck my dick faggot player"
there isn't any Magic in this game:)
What are you talking about with Bioware?
They still haven't done what most fans wanted :P
Perhaps a healed carley with a scar to the face ? I don't know, all the characters left are not really all that likable now, just Clementine. Im starting to see why theres a season 2 with a hopefully new group. Perhaps we'll see more likable characters and this time not get them killed off so quickly in the middle of the season -_-