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[Spoilers]Train Photo

NekrocopNekrocop
edited September 2012 in The Walking Dead
Remember the family photo in the train? A lot of people said it could be the St. Johns, which doesnt make that much sense...

Other people say the man on it is Chuck, although he is just a hobo living in the train car.

Im not 100% sure, but i think its Dale(comic) and his family. Thoughts?

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  • Dead_Man_WalkingDead_Man_Walking
    edited August 2012
    I just thought it was the conductor's family, considering it was over his dead carcass. :D
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited August 2012
    Wasn't Dale a car salesman?

    ...OOOOps post 5000.
  • Dead_Man_WalkingDead_Man_Walking
    edited August 2012
    Happy 5,000! :D *Gives you a cake with 5,000 candles on it* Now go play chess in the park, old man. :P
  • RazzakRazzak
    edited August 2012
    The photo dissapeared.Why?And remember Brenda saying"We are from Georgia."?And Chuck said that he Is from Georgia and left 14 years ago.Could be that he just left and started another family and then left again?:D
  • fangangafanganga
    edited August 2012
    It's not that big a coincidence coming across more than one person from Georgia in Georgia.
  • jaybreezyjaybreezy
    edited August 2012
    I was thinking that Chuck looked familiar every time I saw him. He looked like an older Danny. I wouldn't doubt it if he ended up being Daddy St. John.
  • ChristoasterChristoaster
    edited August 2012
    Nekrocop wrote: »
    Remember the family photo in the train? A lot of people said it could be the St. Johns, which doesnt make that much sense...

    Other people say the man on it is Chuck, although he is just a hobo living in the train car.

    Im not 100% sure, but i think its Dale(comic) and his family. Thoughts?

    I know you say it doesn't make that much sense. In fact I wouldn't think it was Chuck if it hadn't dissapeared. Don't you think it's weird that it dissapeared?
  • The_RipperThe_Ripper
    edited August 2012
    In the photo appears the train driver, who is dead in the cabin.

    It's not Chuck.

    I think St. John's means Georgia as state. From Chuck I can't tell, maybe he means the city on Vermont.
  • RazzakRazzak
    edited August 2012
    Can someone tell me how did the Train Driver died?Coz It looks like a cut from Katana but then there would be a hole in that window.
  • fangangafanganga
    edited August 2012
    Razzak wrote: »
    Can someone tell me how did the Train Driver died?Coz It looks like a cut from Katana but then there would be a hole in that window.

    The front of his head is all caved in, and there's a bloodstained hole on the windscreen in front of him - I'm thinking when the train crashed, he smashed his head on that.
  • CyreenCyreen
    edited August 2012
    Christoaster wrote: »
    I know you say it doesn't make that much sense. In fact I wouldn't think it was Chuck if it hadn't dissapeared. Don't you think it's weird that it dissapeared?

    I think it disappeared after Duck and Katjaa, because Kenny really didn't want to sit there looking at happy family pictures.
  • kingmartykimkingmartykim
    edited August 2012
    First of all the picture belonged to the conductor...you can see it in the picture that he is wearing the uniform...and second he can't be the St Johns father because his real name is Charles...unless he's lying but i doubt it.
  • jaybreezyjaybreezy
    edited August 2012
    kingmartykim wrote: »
    and second he can't be the St Johns father because his real name is Charles...unless he's lying but i doubt it.

    That doesn't meant anything. His name could be Terry Charles St. John. Maybe when he left his "old life" behind he decided to leave the name "Terry" with it and started going by his middle name.

    Or they could be two completely different characters. But, just because they go by different names doesn't mean they can't be the same person.
  • Kiel555Kiel555
    edited August 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    I think it disappeared after Duck and Katjaa, because Kenny really didn't want to sit there looking at happy family pictures.

    There is your answer. Good post.
  • tragictwisttragictwist
    edited August 2012
    I've been reading a lot of theories that the picture is of the St. John's, because Chuck is actually Terry. So I (crappily) screenshot two pictures in a sad attempt to compare...
    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/tragictwist/stjohn.png?t=1346439256
    Ignore my screen xD

    Anyway, pictures both show an older man with similar hair, a woman with brown hair... and then the two boys in the family picture could be the St. John brothers.
    It could be crazy, but I just don't think that picture is a random coincidence.
  • bazenjibazenji
    edited August 2012
    The real question is, why would Chuck St. John keep a picture of his family next to a dead train conductor's corpse?

    ...

    And not eat him?
  • tragictwisttragictwist
    edited August 2012
    I'm going to assume he found the train after the conductor died, and I don't think the St. John's ate zombies. xD

    But I will say, I am unsure if Chuck said how long he'd been on that train or when he stumbled upon it?
  • rachellouise85rachellouise85
    edited August 2012
    To me the kids and woman looked kinda asian, and nothing like the st.Johns. Or maybe it was just the way it was drawn
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited August 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    I think it disappeared after Duck and Katjaa, because Kenny really didn't want to sit there looking at happy family pictures.

    Subtle, Telltale.
  • Viner16Viner16
    edited August 2012
    Chuck said he left his family 14 years ago, so he hasn't been in touch for a while I'm guessing.

    If Chuck is Terry though, maybe the Spare Danny/Andy choice will actually have a hidden purpose?

    "YOU KILLED MAH SONS???"
  • JCMcAdams84JCMcAdams84
    edited August 2012
    It's the conductor. He has the same beard has the caved in headed conductor and the photo was above his unmoved and rotting corpse. Why would you hang the picture of your family over a dead man and not move the body? In fact you can't get to that area unless you move the body as evidence by the fact that you cannot get to the map without Ken moving. The evidence and common sense says it is the conductor's family. Also the St. Johns are very clear that their dad has not been gone that long, possible even having died just before the outbreak or during it's opening stages. Brenda even says the boys quite their jobs and came home to help out. If he'd been gone 14 years what kind of job could a 30 something guy have had back then considering that Andy went to and finished college? And Danny is his younger brother meaning he's at most what? 32-34? Meaning he'd have been a teenager, meaning he'd have at most left school to come home. Which isn't what Brenda said he did. There is no evidence that it is the St. John's father, none at all, but the evidence that it is the conductor is ironclad.

    Edit: Also, the man in the photo has a beard, Chuck has no beard. How can you logically say they look alike when the main defining and most noticeable feature, facial hair, is not shared? The art style in this game doesn't work on a lot of little details and the main features are what set folks apart. People look vastly different with and without facial hair.
  • CyreenCyreen
    edited August 2012
    JCMcAdams84 wrote: »
    There is no evidence that it is the St. John's father, none at all, but the evidence that it is the conductor is ironclad.
    soapbox.gif

    Are you really, really sure? LOL!

    I that thought it went without saying, but obviously not.
  • JCMcAdams84JCMcAdams84
    edited August 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    soapbox.gif

    Are you really, really sure? LOL!

    I thought that it went without saying, but obviously not.

    I gave up thinking things went without saying when on the web years ago, lol. I like to think that just when I've or someone else has said it enough, say it one more time, lol.
  • kirby18kirby18
    edited August 2012
    fanganga wrote: »
    It's not that big a coincidence coming across more than one person from Georgia in Georgia.

    great post haha i think the photo has absolutelu no significance. its just a photo of the conductors/ train drivers family.
  • Androu1Androu1
    edited August 2012
    The photo is obviously the conductor's family and it's only there to make you wonder if they are dead or alive and how fucked up their deaths were or how bad their current situation must be.
  • RazzakRazzak
    edited August 2012
    But It still doesnt explain how he died.If the conductor broke the window with his head and died.Why he was sitting at the chair?
  • Androu1Androu1
    edited August 2012
    Razzak wrote: »
    But It still doesnt explain how he died.If the conductor broke the window with his head and died.Why he was sitting at the chair?
    Now this is more interesting. It's important to note that some wagons got derailed. Perhaps the conductor had to forcefully stop the train and he somehow hit the window with his head but didn't die instantly so he stayed in the chair and bleeded out.

    That sounds silly I guess but I kinda suck at theorizing. I do think it's mentioned that he may have never turned into a walker so he certainly died of severe head trauma.
  • Dead_Man_WalkingDead_Man_Walking
    edited August 2012
    Well, let's see. When Lee talked to Brenda, did she say (In regards to Terry) "Bless his soul." or "Rest his soul."? I was under the impression that Terry passed away. If she says "Rest" then that would also imply it. Anyone remember?

    As for how the conductor died, that's a true mystery. Judging by the scene, it's implied that the train came to a hard stop (Probably not by his doing) and jolted him out of his seat and into the glass window, crushing his skull open. That could be true, as I imagine the glass would have to be fairly thick (I'm no train expert), but I don't see the damage actually caving his skull in like that. The wounds don't seem consistent.

    If the train was halted abruptly, then why is he still seated, nearly perfectly, in his chair? That seems a little impossible, even for a confined space (He had leg room, and such). These will probably be mysteries that will never be solved. :P
  • rachellouise85rachellouise85
    edited August 2012
    maybe he just got thrown back again by the force, after being stopped by the glass etc. he was probably looking at his family photo when it happened. Otherwise I think his head would be wounded on the wrong side. So at least the last thing he saw was (sort of) his family.
  • JCMcAdams84JCMcAdams84
    edited September 2012
    I've been called to enough car accidents in my time to know that the human body moves in weird ways when it is the victim of trauma and force. Hitting the window and then slouching back into his seat isn't only possible it's likely. The windows on a train are often double or triple thick or even plexiglass, which to break would need a lot of force. If the train's rear car's derailed and pulled his cab to a stop he would fly forward at the speed the train was going before it stopped because he wasn't wearing a belt (since most trains don't have those in the cab), upwards of 40-50 mph. Hitting the window with the force to crack it but not fly trough it like he would a car window so his body would fall back, likely into the seat and the whiplash would put him into a somewhat seated position.
  • Viner16Viner16
    edited September 2012
    What I want to know is, why did the photo dissapear? Kenny and Chuck were in the front of the train, could they have tooken it?

    Or did it simply mysteriously get lost?
  • CyreenCyreen
    edited September 2012
    Viner16 wrote: »
    What I want to know is, why did the photo dissapear?

    It's only two pages, read the whole thread.
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