Terrorists in the middle east developed the virus, or what they called "Their gift from their god" They released a package in the U.S, containing the virus. They knew it would engulf the world, so to prevent becoming zombies themselves, they stuck magic pencils in the sand all around their country borders. They believe to be safe now .
Not really, he's not insulting a certain race of people, but rather terrorists who come from the Middle East. It could have been Ireland, America, or any other country.
It's just a fact that there is a lot of terrorist activity in the Middle East, that doesn't mean ALL people from the Middle East are terrorists. And that's not what he said.
Not really, he's not insulting a certain race of people, but rather terrorists who come from the Middle East. It could have been Ireland, America, or any other country.
It's just a fact that there is a lot of terrorist activity in the Middle East, that doesn't mean ALL people from the Middle East are terrorists. And that's not what he said.
1.) He is making an assumption that terrorists from the Middle East are Muslims
2.) He's making an assumption that Muslims are stupid and believe in magic, because pencils are apparently protection
3.) There's a lot of terrorist activity in the Middle East? There's a lot of terrorist activity everywhere. More acts of terror occur in India than in Saudi Arabia. So strange that the initial assumption is that the terrorists come from the Middle East.
4.) "It could have been Ireland, America, or any other country." But guess what, it wasn't, because the author made an assumption about people from that region of the world.
5.) For any reader from the Middle East, you two jokers have provided an example of how people assume religion, likeliness to be a terrorist and ignorance to be characteristics of people from there. Because guess what, that comment wasn't made about the Netherlands. Which used to be a pretty tolerant place 600 years ago.
1.) He is making an assumption that terrorists from
the Middle East are Muslims
2.) He's making an assumption that Muslims are stupid and believe in magic, because pencils are apparently protection
3.) There's a lot of terrorist activity in the Middle East? There's a lot of terrorist activity everywhere. More acts of terror occur in India than in Saudi Arabia. So strange that the initial assumption is that the terrorists come from the Middle East.
4.) "It could have been Ireland, America, or any other country." But guess what, it wasn't, because the author made an assumption about people from that region of the world.
5.) For any reader from the Middle East, you two jokers have provided an example of how people assume religion, likeliness to be a terrorist and ignorance to be characteristics of people from there. Because guess what, that comment wasn't made about the Netherlands. Which used to be a pretty tolerant place 600 years ago.
Wait, what the fuck just happened? I am a joker for standing up to the Middle East post? Why the hell are we arguing, since we have the same opinion?
1) First of all, I am not defending this guy's remarks, but isn't it fair enough to assume that terrorists from the Middle East will be Muslim? I don't have the facts or figures, but I'm guessing a high percentage of inhabitants of that area are in fact Muslim. So purely going on statistics, there's a chance that they might be Muslim.
Then there is the so called Jihad. Officially meaning 'struggle', it's been used as a 'holy war' against the 'West' many times. The term 'holy' pretty much describes the religious side.
Many of them believe that they're going to a better place, even sacrificing their own lives for the greater good. A lot of times there will be spiritual leaders next to combat leaders.
Yes, I am pretty sure not ALL terrorists from the Middle East are Muslim.. ofcourse not. I don't know enough about the reason terrorism exists in that area, to know if it's ALL based on religion.
2) Agree with you here. This wasn't the correct way of voicing his opinion. I don't like any religion, so I've had a lot of complaints as well, and I have learnt my lesson on how to voice an opinion vs. just pissing a lot of people off.
3) Again, I agree that there is a lot of terrorism in other places in the world as well, but we weren't talking about them at that point. I know India has a lot of terrorism, probably even more terrorists than in the Middle East. I was only trying to say there's a difference between being a fullblown racist and saying there are terrorists in the Middle East. There are terrorists everywhere.
4) Agree with you again, hurrah. I wasn't defending his remarks about the Middle East, I said you could exchange the Middle East with any other country, because there are terrorists everywhere.
5) I didn't provide any examples other than saying maybe there are a lot of Muslims living in the Middle East. There will be more Christians living in the USA than Muslims, as will there be more Muslims living in the Middle East than Christans... It was purely a statistic.
I didn't say ANYWHERE that the Muslim faith automatically means you will be a terrorist. That's fucking absurd! I don't have any problems with any people anywhere, as long as they don't mess with my life.
Yes, I DO have a BIG problem with religion as a whole, but this is purely my own opinion, and this was NOT voiced in my post.
I'm still not sure why you were attacking me, or where you found hateful speech or a dislike of the Middle East people.
i think its something religious, only because they mention religion many times in the comics and TV show
I don't think it has anything to do with religion. I think the only reason why they mention religion is because they want something to believe in while their own world goes to hell.
Like in the TV show when they find the church in season 2, they all pray in front of the statue hoping that things to back to normal. I don't think religion was the cause, but more of a safe haven to allow them some hope.
I think the only 2 reasons that make sense to me would be airborne virus, which would have infected a mass population, and a drunk driving accident could turn into 4 zombies, explains the spread so fast, or like they've referenced a plague sent down by god
We have to understand the following:
1. Everyone is infected
2. Everyone turns after death
3. Zombie bites cause death, turning(?)
If everyone has it, the most likely answer is probably that it's a waterborne pathogen That remains latent in the body until after death, which triggers the pathogen to assume control of the host. In the matters of getting bitten, perhaps the pathogen changes once it takes control of a body, so that when it bites a human, it actively works to kill them and then have them turn. There is no cure because it was already in all of us by the time we figured out the cause.
Also, religion as the cause is ridiculous. Zombies are a symbol of human flaws, e.g greed, corruption, materialism, etc.
ok mr. science, it would be impossible to infect the entire planets water supply, thus airborne makes alot more sense, calling religion ridiculous makes you look like a total jackass
I wrote stories of the Walking Dead for Writing.com, and my guess was basically this, generalized to fit in all situations:
I had a power-hungry politician of a foreign country develop a virus and catalyst. His planning was to unleash the catalyst into the water, infecting most inhabitants of the town, country, whatever works. Then he would give one person the virus and letting him/her run lose, throwing the country into chaos. He didn't forsee the side-affects (reanimation) and so figured with the disease killing everyone, he could ascend to power quickly and easily, having what was known to be a cure to the catalyst, at hand, making him a savior and would give him control. This information was ratted out, however, and quickly came into attention of our government through officials of the foreign land. The U.S. would quickly arrive to help, sending in an elite team to deal with the threat and secure the virus before it reached it's destination.
**Note: I would figure the U.S. would have to of known ahead of time, for in the Walking Dead some characters did seem prepared or knew ahead of time what was going on.
Anyway, the corrupt politician and his followers and hired associates were headed to a small town to test out his creation. However, while nearly halfway there, they were attacked by militia who wanted the man dead. The driver of the vehicle was shot and killed and the vehicle went out of control, crashing into the nearby lake; the catalyst's(and we are talking ALOT of it) containers were damaged and the contents were spilled into the lake, which so happened connected to the ocean. This would infect ANYONE who drank from the water of the ocean and it's connected lakes, rivers, streams, etc. while the catalyst could remain, which should take awhile.
**Note: Think of it like a dye, slowly spreading throughout water. It pollutes the water (in a sense) completely, turning it all that color. Eventually though, it will clear, but it would take some time.
My idea for the disease was that it was a regular sickness, but with the catalyst would make it undoubtedly lethal, and would of course make them turn. If they had the catalyst and died regularly, they would turn( Allowing the bite to not always be the cause). The catalyst would never clear the body's system, kind of like certain diseases. It would simply go dormant until the inhabitant was infected with the virus.
My idea on how it spread was that those inside the vehicle when it crashed into the lake were exposed to both infections, and so after dying, turned. Those of the convoy didn't know how to handle the walkers, and so perished as well.
The catalyst I imagine would basically be similar to the virus, so that in the case the person with it died, by turning they essentially contained the virus.
You could say the catalyst inside the dead mutated and so would infect those they attacked after reanimating.
Idk, I like this idea, and I think it could easily work, and would leave loopholes as to where characters could somehow be immune and survive a bite or scratch and cause extra drama, such as others wanting their blood like military or other survivors. If I have a weak point, which I am highly sure I do, lemme know. Thanks
And Bcroft, you don't know if it infected everyone. There is no way to tell that. Yeah, the scientist or 'Ben' from the game or other people may say that EVERYONE is infected, that isn't necessarily true. If you shoot yourself in the head you obviously won't turn. If you don't wait to see if they reanimate then you don't know, unless you check every single person's blood. But there is no way to do that. Kirkman says alot of things and writes alot of things that aren't true or are just mean't to bring you off trail, like how some of Woodbury were surrounded by walkers, or how Kenny from the game was surrounded, how Lee was bitten and left to die or shot. YOU DON'T KNOW. Kenny was 'lost'. Lee is honestly not confirmed; you see him faint/black out or see Clem shoot him, doesn't mean she shot the head, you do hear breathing. Lori from the show is not confirmed, her body was not seen. It is only said to be so that most people will give up hope when they get bit or will automatically get shot in the head when they die(which I can understand, you don't want to find out). You just don't know. People have lived this long, and there is always an exception to the rule. Who knows, maybe there is one person out there in the Walking Dead world who is immune, or has a cure, or knows what it all is. He could be a protagonist, or antagonist. Could have died already. You don't know anything lol
You are all wrong. The infection is caused because of Nazis who have learned from Aliens. They sent this weapon to earth to whipe out the weak and to create the 4. Reich.
Seriously there are only 2 possibly things for such a story: Supernatural things or biological/scientific things. If I think about supernatural stories, I see demons, witches and so on. I don't like those things in a zombie-story. That is why I prefer the scientific way. A virus needs living cells to replicate.. So in my story these are fungi cells which take over the body of their host. Because of evolution/science/whatever they became that dangerous. They just have myceles in the whole body of the host and can controll them in that way. The zombies decompose that slowly because the fungi inject antibiotics in the dead cells and other molecules which create a kind of metabolism in the dead cells. Anyway the fungi also need food -> the corpse slowly decompose (but not that fast if the zombie eats flesh). Living people may be already infected by these fungi but the natural immune system is too strong for an outbreak. Because of the fact, that they are dead, zombies have a lot of toxic bacterias in their rotting mouth (not in the body itself because of the fungi) their bite kills you too.
Yeah thats my explanation :P
I wonder what might be happening in the International Space Station. If I'm not mistaken, those guys have provisions for years. In the book World War Z, I think they survive longer and even managed to return to earth but later died of related causes to cosmic radiation. Has Kirkman stated anything about the ISS in TWD universe?
I think it was supposed to be a viral therapy that allowed soldiers to continue fighting despite mortal wounds or death. They hadn't quite perfected it when there was a quarantine breach. It was never supposed to be communicable but it mutated.
i don't know what it is, but i know what it isn't. it isn't viral, due to the fact that viruses alter genes, which would give evidence for the CDC to speculate and track back to its source. it has to be something that preserves dead flesh, and thus has to permeate nearly all of the body, and thus is unlikely to be bacterial or fungal (skin contact of dead flesh isn't problematic, yet a bite is). nanomachines need power, the undead last for quite sometime without intake, so it is unlikely to be nanomachines. radiation doesn't have 'special' effects on things, so it probably isn't radiation. prions reproduce via proteins, and so there would be a deficiency in some type of protein world wide across a day or two, so it probably isn't prions. not much left that it could be, so science wise it would have to be pretty multitiered (radiation that caused a type of prion, that reproduces in decaying tissues of the brain, triggering certain centers of the brain to hunger for flesh while reanimating part of the brain, creating a preservative that is also a nerve toxin). so ya, probably not something like that.
i don't know what it is, but i know what it isn't. it isn't viral, due to the fact that viruses alter genes, which would give evidence for the CDC to speculate and track back to its source.
If a virus is highly communicable and incubates until the host dies, the disease might be out of control before anyone decides a quarantine is necessary.
What I wonder is, how did so many people die so quickly? At first there would be only a few zombies, which should have been easy enough to dispatch before things got crazy.
In a city of a million people, about 20 people will die every day. Imagine 20, or 40, or 60 zombies in a city of a million people. Those things wouldn't last, not at all.
If a virus is highly communicable and incubates until the host dies, the disease might be out of control before anyone decides a quarantine is necessary.
What I wonder is, how did so many people die so quickly? At first there would be only a few zombies, which should have been easy enough to dispatch before things got crazy.
In a city of a million people, about 20 people will die every day. Imagine 20, or 40, or 60 zombies in a city of a million people. Those things wouldn't last, not at all.
Lilly touches on that subject in episode 3:
"In those first few days it spread so fast... car crashes, suicides, everything was making more of them."
Potential spoilers.
Basically some people start panicking, and that panic spreads to another group of people, and another and another until the whole city thinks the world is ending. Then they drive like maniacs to flee the city, some off themselves so they won't have to suffer, and others kill or get killed trying to loot stores/houses/etc. Thus, the walkers spread like wildfire with zero effort.
I think its a virus spreading trough the air that everyone breeds thats how everyone is infected . Also the virus is weak so for the person to turn it makes sense that they have to be dead otherwise the human body defense thingy can protect itself from the virus and the virus takes control of your brain if your dead because you cant defend yourself.
If you get bit the virus slowly gets stronger your body can no longer protect itself from it.
Thats my theory its a virus created in a lab that spreads trough air that was acidently let out by cientists.
Kirkman wanted to create fictional characters that we will grow extremely attached to and allow us to feel the mourning of a loss of a loved one...even if he is was written.
If a virus is highly communicable and incubates until the host dies, the disease might be out of control before anyone decides a quarantine is necessary.
What I wonder is, how did so many people die so quickly? At first there would be only a few zombies, which should have been easy enough to dispatch before things got crazy.
In a city of a million people, about 20 people will die every day. Imagine 20, or 40, or 60 zombies in a city of a million people. Those things wouldn't last, not at all.
not really talking about containment via quarantine, just simply identifying the source of zombification.
CDC set up special bunkers for researching it
, one of the easiest things to do if you know nothing about a pathogen is to use electron microscopes on cells, so anything that is large enough to see via electron microscope is out of the question, which leaves really small viruses as the next step of identification. doing a gene test to see if genes have been altered takes less than a day in such an environment, so they would know if it was something causing a change in the genes, and then begin to formulate hypothesis on what causes zombification. reversing the change or even finding the thing that causes it may take longer, but at least they will have a direction to look in.
when they went to a CDC bunker the guy inside had literally no idea what caused it, and he said no other center did as well.
if they did, then it would be feasible for an 'I am Legend' scenario, even if it fails, or is never gone into.
Withholding information, especially how the za started is terrible, Lost did all that bullshit, it isn't mysterious and it isn't interesting.
Exactly. The most frustrating thing for me is how the characters, both in the TV show and the game never talk about it. Apparently to them it's irrelevant why everyone is turning into a zombie.
The most satisfying reason to me would be a mad lonely scientist who wanted to destroy mankind and created a virus, and then they make him the antagonist in a later season/game. :cool:
He says someone dropped some sort of substance to the soil, it got absorbed by the trees. Through photosynthesis the trees created contaminated oxygen. That oxygen was processed into equally contaminated carbon dioxide (by humans) which was later absorbed by other trees. People started to get the virus but showed no symptoms of any kind, that was until somebody died, came back as a zombie and started to chew his way out, bringing with him more and more walkers.
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It's just a fact that there is a lot of terrorist activity in the Middle East, that doesn't mean ALL people from the Middle East are terrorists. And that's not what he said.
1.) He is making an assumption that terrorists from the Middle East are Muslims
2.) He's making an assumption that Muslims are stupid and believe in magic, because pencils are apparently protection
3.) There's a lot of terrorist activity in the Middle East? There's a lot of terrorist activity everywhere. More acts of terror occur in India than in Saudi Arabia. So strange that the initial assumption is that the terrorists come from the Middle East.
4.) "It could have been Ireland, America, or any other country." But guess what, it wasn't, because the author made an assumption about people from that region of the world.
5.) For any reader from the Middle East, you two jokers have provided an example of how people assume religion, likeliness to be a terrorist and ignorance to be characteristics of people from there. Because guess what, that comment wasn't made about the Netherlands. Which used to be a pretty tolerant place 600 years ago.
Wait, what the fuck just happened? I am a joker for standing up to the Middle East post? Why the hell are we arguing, since we have the same opinion?
1) First of all, I am not defending this guy's remarks, but isn't it fair enough to assume that terrorists from the Middle East will be Muslim? I don't have the facts or figures, but I'm guessing a high percentage of inhabitants of that area are in fact Muslim. So purely going on statistics, there's a chance that they might be Muslim.
Then there is the so called Jihad. Officially meaning 'struggle', it's been used as a 'holy war' against the 'West' many times. The term 'holy' pretty much describes the religious side.
Many of them believe that they're going to a better place, even sacrificing their own lives for the greater good. A lot of times there will be spiritual leaders next to combat leaders.
Yes, I am pretty sure not ALL terrorists from the Middle East are Muslim.. ofcourse not. I don't know enough about the reason terrorism exists in that area, to know if it's ALL based on religion.
2) Agree with you here. This wasn't the correct way of voicing his opinion. I don't like any religion, so I've had a lot of complaints as well, and I have learnt my lesson on how to voice an opinion vs. just pissing a lot of people off.
3) Again, I agree that there is a lot of terrorism in other places in the world as well, but we weren't talking about them at that point. I know India has a lot of terrorism, probably even more terrorists than in the Middle East. I was only trying to say there's a difference between being a fullblown racist and saying there are terrorists in the Middle East. There are terrorists everywhere.
4) Agree with you again, hurrah. I wasn't defending his remarks about the Middle East, I said you could exchange the Middle East with any other country, because there are terrorists everywhere.
5) I didn't provide any examples other than saying maybe there are a lot of Muslims living in the Middle East. There will be more Christians living in the USA than Muslims, as will there be more Muslims living in the Middle East than Christans... It was purely a statistic.
I didn't say ANYWHERE that the Muslim faith automatically means you will be a terrorist. That's fucking absurd! I don't have any problems with any people anywhere, as long as they don't mess with my life.
Yes, I DO have a BIG problem with religion as a whole, but this is purely my own opinion, and this was NOT voiced in my post.
I'm still not sure why you were attacking me, or where you found hateful speech or a dislike of the Middle East people.
I don't think it has anything to do with religion. I think the only reason why they mention religion is because they want something to believe in while their own world goes to hell.
Like in the TV show when they find the church in season 2, they all pray in front of the statue hoping that things to back to normal. I don't think religion was the cause, but more of a safe haven to allow them some hope.
1. Everyone is infected
2. Everyone turns after death
3. Zombie bites cause death, turning(?)
If everyone has it, the most likely answer is probably that it's a waterborne pathogen That remains latent in the body until after death, which triggers the pathogen to assume control of the host. In the matters of getting bitten, perhaps the pathogen changes once it takes control of a body, so that when it bites a human, it actively works to kill them and then have them turn. There is no cure because it was already in all of us by the time we figured out the cause.
Also, religion as the cause is ridiculous. Zombies are a symbol of human flaws, e.g greed, corruption, materialism, etc.
Science, bruh.
' U r a racist fuck ' is a statment adding a ? at the end makes it a really weird thing to read...
I think they're calling muslim extremists or something
im tired so excuse my spelling
I had a power-hungry politician of a foreign country develop a virus and catalyst. His planning was to unleash the catalyst into the water, infecting most inhabitants of the town, country, whatever works. Then he would give one person the virus and letting him/her run lose, throwing the country into chaos. He didn't forsee the side-affects (reanimation) and so figured with the disease killing everyone, he could ascend to power quickly and easily, having what was known to be a cure to the catalyst, at hand, making him a savior and would give him control. This information was ratted out, however, and quickly came into attention of our government through officials of the foreign land. The U.S. would quickly arrive to help, sending in an elite team to deal with the threat and secure the virus before it reached it's destination.
**Note: I would figure the U.S. would have to of known ahead of time, for in the Walking Dead some characters did seem prepared or knew ahead of time what was going on.
Anyway, the corrupt politician and his followers and hired associates were headed to a small town to test out his creation. However, while nearly halfway there, they were attacked by militia who wanted the man dead. The driver of the vehicle was shot and killed and the vehicle went out of control, crashing into the nearby lake; the catalyst's(and we are talking ALOT of it) containers were damaged and the contents were spilled into the lake, which so happened connected to the ocean. This would infect ANYONE who drank from the water of the ocean and it's connected lakes, rivers, streams, etc. while the catalyst could remain, which should take awhile.
**Note: Think of it like a dye, slowly spreading throughout water. It pollutes the water (in a sense) completely, turning it all that color. Eventually though, it will clear, but it would take some time.
My idea for the disease was that it was a regular sickness, but with the catalyst would make it undoubtedly lethal, and would of course make them turn. If they had the catalyst and died regularly, they would turn( Allowing the bite to not always be the cause). The catalyst would never clear the body's system, kind of like certain diseases. It would simply go dormant until the inhabitant was infected with the virus.
My idea on how it spread was that those inside the vehicle when it crashed into the lake were exposed to both infections, and so after dying, turned. Those of the convoy didn't know how to handle the walkers, and so perished as well.
The catalyst I imagine would basically be similar to the virus, so that in the case the person with it died, by turning they essentially contained the virus.
You could say the catalyst inside the dead mutated and so would infect those they attacked after reanimating.
Idk, I like this idea, and I think it could easily work, and would leave loopholes as to where characters could somehow be immune and survive a bite or scratch and cause extra drama, such as others wanting their blood like military or other survivors. If I have a weak point, which I am highly sure I do, lemme know. Thanks
Seriously there are only 2 possibly things for such a story: Supernatural things or biological/scientific things. If I think about supernatural stories, I see demons, witches and so on. I don't like those things in a zombie-story. That is why I prefer the scientific way. A virus needs living cells to replicate.. So in my story these are fungi cells which take over the body of their host. Because of evolution/science/whatever they became that dangerous. They just have myceles in the whole body of the host and can controll them in that way. The zombies decompose that slowly because the fungi inject antibiotics in the dead cells and other molecules which create a kind of metabolism in the dead cells. Anyway the fungi also need food -> the corpse slowly decompose (but not that fast if the zombie eats flesh). Living people may be already infected by these fungi but the natural immune system is too strong for an outbreak. Because of the fact, that they are dead, zombies have a lot of toxic bacterias in their rotting mouth (not in the body itself because of the fungi) their bite kills you too.
Yeah thats my explanation :P
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When there is NO more room in hell,the dead will walk the earth
What I wonder is, how did so many people die so quickly? At first there would be only a few zombies, which should have been easy enough to dispatch before things got crazy.
In a city of a million people, about 20 people will die every day. Imagine 20, or 40, or 60 zombies in a city of a million people. Those things wouldn't last, not at all.
Lilly touches on that subject in episode 3:
Basically some people start panicking, and that panic spreads to another group of people, and another and another until the whole city thinks the world is ending. Then they drive like maniacs to flee the city, some off themselves so they won't have to suffer, and others kill or get killed trying to loot stores/houses/etc. Thus, the walkers spread like wildfire with zero effort.
If you get bit the virus slowly gets stronger your body can no longer protect itself from it.
Thats my theory its a virus created in a lab that spreads trough air that was acidently let out by cientists.
This episode was a dream of Rick.. i don't think it's cannon but it was fucking awesome.
not really talking about containment via quarantine, just simply identifying the source of zombification.
Exactly. The most frustrating thing for me is how the characters, both in the TV show and the game never talk about it. Apparently to them it's irrelevant why everyone is turning into a zombie.
The most satisfying reason to me would be a mad lonely scientist who wanted to destroy mankind and created a virus, and then they make him the antagonist in a later season/game. :cool:
He says someone dropped some sort of substance to the soil, it got absorbed by the trees. Through photosynthesis the trees created contaminated oxygen. That oxygen was processed into equally contaminated carbon dioxide (by humans) which was later absorbed by other trees. People started to get the virus but showed no symptoms of any kind, that was until somebody died, came back as a zombie and started to chew his way out, bringing with him more and more walkers.