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edited September 2012 in The Walking Dead
Hire a real child actor next time. If it's good enough for Disney, Universal, Dream Works, and Lions gate then it's good enough for TTG.
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  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Hire a real child actor next time. If it's good enough for Disney, Universal, Dream Works, and Lions gate then it's good enough for TTG.

    IMO as a parent to be, I wouldn't want my child exposed to a horrible world like that so young, even though it is made up. I'm all for gore and blood and guts. I can't get enough of it. But 8 (clem's age) is too young to be a voice actor for such a game.

    Plus Disney doesn't make zombie games/movies. *shrug*
  • edited September 2012
    I think the voice actor is good. I never guessed she was an adult until I read about it. Besides the subject matter as was mentioned above, Im not sure an 8 year old could really pull off all the nuances of the part. There are some good child actors but, voice actors? I dont know. They've done a good job with all the casting so far.
  • edited September 2012
    i knew the moment she was talking about why she wanted to keep the walkie talkie it was an adult, how could you get a child to act that scene well?

    http://youtu.be/ZVFxpkBzJwM?t=51m14s
  • edited September 2012
    I like Clem's voice acting.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    I like Clem's voice acting.

    so do i, it's a fact that children cant act, they don't have the emotional maturity to do anything other than what they are told to do, and they do that the way they would do it
  • edited September 2012
    so do i, it's a fact that children cant act, they don't have the emotional maturity to do anything other than what they are told to do, and they do that the way they would do it

    So they shouldn't hire a child actor b/c they are too child-like? Because an 8 year old should have the emotional maturity of an adult.

    Who's side are you on? lol
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    So they shouldn't hire a child actor b/c they are too child-like? Because an 8 year old should have the emotional maturity of an adult.

    Who's side are you on? lol

    what i mean is children aren't emotionally mature enough to imagine/act how they would feel in complex emotional scenarios that they have never experienced.

    so nuance and subtlety are out of the question for a child actor,
    eg. if you tell a child to cry, they will just cry like they would cry, but an adult could cry like there character would cry
  • edited September 2012
    A child would be less likely to empathize with the character they're playing.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    A child would be less likely to empathize with the character they're playing.

    simpler than mine but yeah :)
  • edited September 2012
    OK, for those talking about emotional maturity, name one scene Clem was in that would give a child actress trouble.

    Clem is closed off, so if she's not cracking jokes, she basically sounding sad and saying "oh." I haven't seen anything that seems out of range of child.

    People act like children in drama don't exist, which they do, and which throws out the theory children couldn't perform the role.
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Hire a real child actor next time. If it's good enough for Disney, Universal, Dream Works, and Lions gate then it's good enough for TTG.

    Absolutely unnecessary and could very easily result in a worse job with the voice acting.

    To counter your 'Major Studios' argument, hiring adults to voice kids seems to have worked perfectly fine for the longest running animated show on television. If it's good enough for the Simpsons, it's good enough for Telltale.

    Besides, the voice actress who does Clementine has done a remarkable job. Same with Ducks voice actor.
  • edited September 2012
    I'm sure there are child voice actors who are dynamic professionals but if an adult fits the role like a glove I am happy they picked the adult.
  • edited September 2012
    Why are we even having this discussion? Melissa Hutchison is fantastic as Clem.
  • edited September 2012
    tobar wrote: »
    Why are we even having this discussion? Melissa Hutchison is fantastic as Clem.

    I have no idea. Red Panda never bothered to state why they started the thread.
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    OK, for those talking about emotional maturity, name one scene Clem was in that would give a child actress trouble.

    Clem is closed off, so if she's not cracking jokes, she basically sounding sad and saying "oh." I haven't seen anything that seems out of range of child.

    People act like children in drama don't exist, which they do, and which throws out the theory children couldn't perform the role.
    i knew the moment she was talking about why she wanted to keep the walkie talkie it was an adult, how could you get a child to act that scene well?

    http://youtu.be/ZVFxpkBzJwM?t=51m14s

    i can't be bothered to find more, but i had already said this one

    edit: can you name one child actor that has acted in any way that isn't just a typical child in a typical situation and it was a great performance?
  • edited September 2012
    Child actors are seldom good. Especially in voice acting. Sure, major studios use kids. But they also use actors who have never acted in front of a mic and don't have any business in voice acting to do roles they're unqualified for. Just because something is done doesn't make it a good idea.
  • edited September 2012
    I'm not seeing the problem with Clem's VA....
  • edited September 2012
    Adults voicing children is actually far more common than having actual children do it. And honestly, I think Clem's VA is doing a fine job.
  • edited September 2012
    The voice acting is spot on, and before I knew it was an adult I thought it was a child.

    However now that I know it is an adult I have issue with it.

    We speak of child actors and how they cannot handle certain scenes and cannot bring a certain maturity to the screen but I beg to differ. The movie "extremely loud and incredibly close" features a child actor playing a youth a year older than Clem. The back drop is 9/11 and the child lost his father in the attack. I would say that demands a certain level of maturity and emotion to play such a character. And the actor must have done something right because not only was the movie nominated for several awards but the actor won best young actor.

    There are other movies and films in which child actors play dramatic parts. I can't recall the name of the female actress or the name of the film unfortunately but the setting was the rural south during the Negro Civil Rights era. The setting and race alone demand a high level of maturity to act in a setting not only foreign to American born blacks but also very hostile. (so maybe not so foreign)

    However, there are such cases when a child actor would not be good for a program, my thoughts go out to the cartoon "The Boondocks. An adult female plays the voices of both male leads and it is understandable because of the language used by the leads and supporting characters. But to say that a child could not voice Clem because they are not mature is false in light of other child actors working with equally emotional and violent films and movies. Since the cursing is minimal and no cursing is done by Clem there is no reason a little girl could not voice Clem.
  • edited September 2012
    Are you playing the same game that I did? Clem has been outstanding.

    The way she her character acts has been further enhanced by the voice acting. Those two combined is what has made her my favorite character.

    I honestly did not know that she was voiced by an adult until I read it on the forums. Only someone with talent could make a kid sound like a kid while not physically being one themselves.

    Some of her lines are simple things like, "oh." It's not just what Clem says it's how she says it a lot of times. It tells you there is something deeper going on in this kid's mind then just saying "oh".
  • edited September 2012
    This little girl is bringing the drama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j566_agm0Nk

    And she sounds like a girl rather than an adult talking in a high pitched voice.
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    This little girl is bringing the drama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j566_agm0Nk

    And she sounds like a girl rather than an adult talking in a high pitched voice.

    looks older than Clementine and meh
  • edited September 2012
    Another example of child drama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSNyiSetZ8Y
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Another example of child drama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSNyiSetZ8Y

    But can they do it behind a mic in a sound room? You put an 8 year old in a scary, dark room- they're gonna be scared. Put a kid in a a recording studio and tell them to be scared and read the lines in front of them with feeling.. I don't know
  • edited September 2012
    looks older than Clementine and meh

    She's just as good as the adult. Be real. Obviously you're trying to prove your point and will discredit every child actor a person can post to make it but it just discredits your argument when you can't recognize talent.

    Plus, you just look like a hater.
  • edited September 2012
    Motordead wrote: »
    But can they do it behind a mic in a sound room? You put an 8 year old in a scary, dark room- they're gonna be scared. Put a kid in a a recording studio and tell them to be scared and read the lines in front of them with feeling.. I don't know

    westernized sheltered children of privilege.

    Oh..yeah this is a California production.

    hehe, jokes aside. That's what coaching is for.

    Doesn't the Disney channel use child actors for the cartoon series they have? "The proud family"
  • edited September 2012
    Motordead wrote: »
    But can they do it behind a mic in a sound room? You put an 8 year old in a scary, dark room- they're gonna be scared. Put a kid in a a recording studio and tell them to be scared and read the lines in front of them with feeling.. I don't know

    Okay, he was in a well lit hospital room with Bruce Willis smirking. Really the opposite of scary so what is your point?
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    She's just as good as the adult. Be real. Obviously you're trying to prove your point and will discredit every child actor a person can post to make it but it just discredits your argument when you can't recognize talent.

    Plus, you just look like a hater.

    do you know her or something? because you seem to have taken my "meh" personally
  • edited September 2012
    westernized sheltered children of privilege.

    Oh..yeah this is a California production.

    hehe, jokes aside. That's what coaching is for.

    Doesn't the Disney channel use child actors for the cartoon series they have? "The proud family"

    True, but people aren't being eaten alive in it.
  • edited September 2012
    Hmm, still not seeing the problem.
  • edited September 2012
    do you know her or something? because you seem to have taken my "meh" personally

    I don't know her and I don't need to for me to say you sound like a hater. You have opinions about her performance, I have opinions about your opinions. Don't take it personal!
  • edited September 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    Hmm, still not seeing the problem.

    You don't have to see a problem. I never said you need to agree with me. I'm not trying to convince you or anybody. I'm just giving my opinion.
  • edited September 2012
    Your opinion might have more weight, if it didn't seem like it was random words on a page.

    Why do you feel it's a problem?
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    I don't know her and I don't need to for me to say you sound like a hater. You have opinions about her performance, I have opinions about your opinions. Don't take it personal!

    i was honestly not impressed, i don't see how not being impressed is being a hater, and she did look older than Clementine
  • edited September 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    Your opinion might have more weight, if it didn't seem like it was random words on a page.

    Why do you feel it's a problem?

    Random words on page? Either you don't know what "random" means, you have dyslexia, or can't articulate what you're thinking.

    If you weren't busy being trying to be disrespectful and rude, you would have said I never explained why I wanted to a see child actor play the part.

    For me, I she sounds like an adult trying to talk like a child and it break me out of the narrative at critical moments. Children have an innocence and ignorance to them that I think is hard for adults to mimic.
  • edited September 2012
    Ok, I think we're done.....
  • edited September 2012
    You pose a question and then attack anyone who disagrees with you or (in my experience) posts something you don't understand (i.e. "vicariously").
    Red Panda wrote: »
    I don't know her and I don't need to for me to say you sound like a hater.
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Either you don't know what "random" means, you have dyslexia, or can't articulate what you're thinking.

    You're the one coming off as a "hater", which by the way is a really stupid word. If you want people to post in your threads, I suggest you play nice.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    You pose a question and then attack anyone who disagrees with you or (in my experience) posts something you don't understand (i.e. "vicariously").

    You're the one coming off as a "hater", which by the way is a really stupid word. If you want people to post in your threads, I suggest you play nice.

    OK, First, that whole thread was a joke. I understand you were saying I was living vicariously because I was changing the words when I quoted people. I'm not stupid.

    Second, hater is a great word. It's apt for the situation.

    Third, I play nice. I wasn't attacking anyone, especially not for disagreeing with me on this, and even if I was to the two you qouted, since when does 2 out of like the 12 people that replied count as "attacking anyone who disagrees"? That doesn't make any sense. I've done nothing of the sort.
  • edited September 2012
    Be excellent to each other.
  • edited September 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    I'm not seeing the problem with Clem's VA....

    I think the problem is Red Panda wasn't offered the role.

    I don't see the issue with adults voicing children. As has been mentioned, The Simpsons has done it since The Tracey Ulman show.

    For me adults have an inherent understanding of what is required in any given role. They can read the script, take in the subject matter and act accordingly. I don't think a child actor could read the script about being attacked by a zombie and portray it convincingly.

    However, if somebody can post a good example of a child voice actor acting a similar voice only role convincingly, I'll happily eat humble pie.
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