If they do manage to find the boat, then what?

edited September 2012 in The Walking Dead
If they do manage to survive Savannah and find Kenny's boat, then what? Are they going stay in the Atlantic Ocean for the rest of their lives, sail to another country, or what?
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  • edited September 2012
    nublar93 wrote: »
    If they do manage to survive Savannah and find Kenny's boat, then what? Are they going stay in the Atlantic Ocean for the rest of their lives, sail to another country, or what?

    i would just stay near the coast occasionally making trips to land for supplies
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    I'd be surprised if they had thought that far.
  • edited September 2012
    nublar93 wrote: »
    If they do manage to survive Savannah and find Kenny's boat, then what? Are they going stay in the Atlantic Ocean for the rest of their lives, sail to another country, or what?

    Well unless it is a sailboat they will need to get gas to run the boat. They may have food access because Kenny is a fisherman, but what do they have to cook it on the boat? Assuming they are using his actual fishing boat and it hasent been destroyed or stolen. Lets assume he has a grill on his boat, or heck even a small kitchen inside. Gas or Electric they will need to get more fuel to cook the food he catches.

    Another fact is if they sail down into the Caribbean they will have to deal with Hurricanes. Especially now that there is no warning ahead of time. If they sail north up the coast there are still chances they will run into nasty weather, having them go back to land.

    In the end they WILL need to go back on land. It's just a matter of when, not if.
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    Motordead wrote: »
    Well unless it is a sailboat they will need to get gas to run the boat. They may have food access because Kenny is a fisherman, but what do they have to cook it on the boat? Assuming they are using his actual fishing boat and it hasent been destroyed or stolen. Lets assume he has a grill on his boat, or heck even a small kitchen inside. Gas or Electric they will need to get more fuel to cook the food he catches.

    Another fact is if they sail down into the Caribbean they will have to deal with Hurricanes. Especially now that there is no warning ahead of time. If they sail north up the coast there are still chances they will run into nasty weather, having them go back to land.

    In the end they WILL need to go back on land. It's just a matter of when, not if.

    they wont be using kenny's boat as i don't think it is in savannah, and ever heard of sushi?, and why would they go to the Caribbean? did they mention that or something?
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    Without fuel, they'll be dead in the water.... unless it's a sail operated boat.
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    they wont be using kenny's boat as i don't think it is in savannah, and ever heard of sushi?, and why would they go to the Caribbean? did they mention that or something?

    True, but only certain types of fish are safe for eating raw, and even those fish are frozen solid to eliminate any dangerous parasites they may reside in them that can kill the person eating it. Once frozen they are thawed, cut, than served. Unless someone on the boat knows what they are doing and know how to serve sushi, they can kill someone.

    <-- used to own a restaurant. I've never made sushi, or do I want to- but I know the basic way it is processed by my background.
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    Currently if they get to the boat I think it might be alot like how the Dawn of the Dead remake did it. They get to the boat, someone sacrifices themselves for the group then they sail off. They reach an island and its just the same there as well.
  • edited September 2012
    Motordead wrote: »
    True, but only certain types of fish are safe for eating raw, and even those fish are frozen solid to eliminate any dangerous parasites they may reside in them that can kill the person eating it. Once frozen they are thawed, cut, than served. Unless someone on the boat knows what they are doing and know how to serve sushi, they can kill someone.

    <-- used to own a restaurant. I've never made sushi, or do I want to- but I know the basic way it is processed by my background.

    yeah your are right i wouldn't want to eat parasites, but if you were on a sail boat the amount of fuel you would need is minimal for a camping cooker
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    Shame they don't have Doug, he could have probably made a solar powered stove or something....
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    i've got one of these at home, good for any zombie apocalypse

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    They'll probably sale south towards the many islands there.
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    Kenny's boat is down in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. They're pretty much just going to take the first working boat that they find, sail operated or not. What they do next they probably haven't thought of.
  • edited September 2012
    Sergiy wrote: »
    They'll probably sale south towards the many islands there.

    I would agree, there is gonna be 1 of 3 things though.

    1. Survivors colony on a island.
    2. All the islands are filled with the dead.
    3. Walkers can swim and it doesn't matter, they will still come.
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    ever seen the "Dawn of the dead" remake? I think i'd prolly be alot like that lol.
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    I doubt they'll copy that.
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    Trick question, I'm not looking for the boat any more. Never really was honestly... That's a pipedream.

    You will not have enough supplies and just have to keep coming back to land anyway. Might as well find like a damned bunker or something.

    Plus... zombies can't drown I'd imagine. Why can't they climb up your anchor? Pirates of the Caribbean zombies did!!!!!!!!!!
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    Trick question, I'm not looking for the boat any more. Never really was honestly... That's a pipedream.

    You will not have enough supplies and just have to keep coming back to land anyway. Might as well find like a damned bunker or something.

    Plus... zombies can't drown I'd imagine. Why can't they climb up your anchor? Pirates of the Caribbean zombies did!!!!!!!!!!

    zombies cant climb
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    They could crawl up the chain. We've seen them crawl. It may be a big ass chain for all we know! Some of those boats need the super industrial thick ones.
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    They could crawl up the chain. We've seen them crawl. It may be a big ass chain for all we know! Some of those boats need the super industrial thick ones.

    crawl upwards?
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    I've read that the walkers have problems with stairs... I don't see them climbing a chain....
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    I always thought they would find a nice island or coast to settle on.
  • edited September 2012
    Motordead wrote: »
    True, but only certain types of fish are safe for eating raw, and even those fish are frozen solid to eliminate any dangerous parasites they may reside in them that can kill the person eating it. Once frozen they are thawed, cut, than served. Unless someone on the boat knows what they are doing and know how to serve sushi, they can kill someone.

    <-- used to own a restaurant. I've never made sushi, or do I want to- but I know the basic way it is processed by my background.
    I would really like to know who told you about fish being frozen before serving it raw. It is possible to do that of course, but it wouldn't help killing all existing parasites, freezing is done to kill some, but basically to prevent fish/meat from picking up more parasites.

    Just about any fish or meat can be consumed in a raw state, as long as it is really fresh and not suffering from environmental pollution. Too much can get your stomach turned though until your body gets used to it.

    It would probably not even be neccessary to eat the fish raw anyways, as all fishingboats that take longer than one day turns, have a galley with a stove that is either operated by gas, or electric powered over the Diesel engine (yeah, this problem would still persist of course, at least over time) - but even if there was no galley, as long as the boat is Diesel powered, you could even fry the fish on the engine itself.

    Another approach would be to either smoke the fish, fry it over a camp fire (doable, as a commercial fisherboat is surely made at least partially out of steel), or even "cook" it with an aggressive acid, like lemon juice or brandy vinegar.

    Kenny being a fisherman should know at least some of these ways, if not all, or even more.
  • edited September 2012
    Ok first, as was mentioned, Kenny's boat was in Florida, they're in Georiga so they would have to grab the first available boat they can. Something with a sail would be best as fuel would be hard and dangerous to find and is only limited but even a powerboat can be fitted with a sail providing they were able to get some sort of supplies for it.

    Also, the idea of zombies climbing anchor chains isnt unrealistic. Consider their would be the boyancy issue, they wouldnt have to 'climb' as they would be weightless, just simply pull themselves up. We've seen legless zombies pull themselves along the ground, so up a chain while weightless would be eaiser.

    Consider staying near the shoreline and gather water and some supplies including charts, so they have options where to sail to and.. A marine radio. If the zombie outbreak took hold on land, you have to think to of the worlds Naval forces.. I would imagine most ships at sea to be safe.

    Then consider all of the others with the same boat idea's, How many boat's would be available? How many have already sailed to small Islands? How many of those islands would be safe, have fresh water, or other survivors willing to share? What time of year is it? I wouldnt want to be out at sea in the Atlantic during hurricane season!

    Overall I think a boat would be the best Idea for immediate safety as long as someone "like Kenny" knew something about sailing and navigation. I would rather try to find a Navy ship than worry about a Island somewhere. After finding a ship, I would assume the Navy would know where the safest land masses would be.
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    That's assuming that there is even still a Navy. The crews of the ships could ahve just decided to desert the armed forces once they realized how bad the situation was, and may have turned to piracy. Plus, there are all the ships in drydock in the ports throughout the coast. They likely wouldn't have made it out to sea without being overrun by walkers before they made it away from the docks. And who knows if any of the, that did make it and didn't turn to piracy, are even still along the U.S. Coastline? They could have opted to go to a different country or continent to escape the walkers. They surely wouldn't know that this thing is happening world wide, would they?
  • edited September 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    That's assuming that there is even still a Navy. The crews of the ships could ahve just decided to desert the armed forces once they realized how bad the situation was, and may have turned to piracy. Plus, there are all the ships in drydock in the ports throughout the coast. They likely wouldn't have made it out to sea without being overrun by walkers before they made it away from the docks. And who knows if any of the, that did make it and didn't turn to piracy, are even still along the U.S. Coastline? They could have opted to go to a different country or continent to escape the walkers. They surely wouldn't know that this thing is happening world wide, would they?

    it's hard to talk about any of the military in TWD without finding reasons why they wouldn't be gone
  • edited September 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    That's assuming that there is even still a Navy. The crews of the ships could ahve just decided to desert the armed forces once they realized how bad the situation was, and may have turned to piracy. Plus, there are all the ships in drydock in the ports throughout the coast. They likely wouldn't have made it out to sea without being overrun by walkers before they made it away from the docks. And who knows if any of the, that did make it and didn't turn to piracy, are even still along the U.S. Coastline? They could have opted to go to a different country or continent to escape the walkers. They surely wouldn't know that this thing is happening world wide, would they?

    Well, then figure how long the ZA has been happening.. Episode 1 suggest's the very beginning, Episode 2 is 3 month's later, episode 3 is a week later.

    I spent 10 years in the US Navy so I have a little reference to call on!

    Let's just assume the ZA has been in effect for 6 weeks.. That's hardly long enough for the majority of the US Navy to completely collapse. Sure a couple ships may get lost to the outbreak, but I would think most ships would be safe. Drydocks would fall under land bases and as they are just Drydocks, they are not really very secure.

    I think your comment on the piracy is realistic, but not after only 6 weeks..
    Remember that most ship's are geared for 6 month deployments, eventhough they do need to replenish, they would be able to sustain themselves for months. I think any Navy ship wouldnt resort to piracy til after years.

    Fuel and food would be the main issues for most ships, but we also have Nuclear powered vessels including carriers and sub's. More than capable to survive for many years at sea.

    And for your last comment that they wouldnt know what was happening is way off.. You can bet that as soon as the ZA was realized, every branch of the military would know it ASAP.. Satalite communications would still be active, most of all military communications. Maybe land bases would be over-run, but I would bet the vast majority of the Naval forces would be intact and the safest bet!
  • edited September 2012
    Too bad I live right in the middle of the US, ebcause now I want to seek out the navy in case of a ZA. I'd love to find a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier fully crewed by the nicest servicemen and women in the Navy, but sadly this is TWD. I'm fairly certain that our heroes will be on their own for the rest of their days, which might not be very long now that they;re in Savvanah :(
  • edited September 2012
    nublar93 wrote: »
    If they do manage to survive Savannah and find Kenny's boat, then what? Are they going stay in the Atlantic Ocean for the rest of their lives, sail to another country, or what?

    Must be an island out there somewhere without people on it.
  • edited September 2012
    Must be an island out there somewhere without people on it.


    I think their are many more islands out in thepacific but you also have to think if an island is un-inhabited then it's probably un-inhabitable meaning no food or water. Then consider the possibility of finding a suitable island already with survivors that may not be willing to share. No matter where we go the whole world has changed into a much more dangerous place.
  • edited September 2012
    If they find the boat it will be Ep 5; game over; see ya next season
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    There will be no boat. Chuck already made fun of them for thinking that other people wouldn't have the same idea.

    Besides, finding a boat won't help. It was only maybe a good idea when people thought zombies had to bite people. Now if the survivors go on a boat and someone dies, the new zombie crew member will kill everyone in the cramped space. If the survivors jump off the boat, they'll drown or freeze in the water.

    Or the survivors will catch a zombie (or zombie fish), which will kill them.
    Or a zombie will just float on by, and hop on the boat.

    Pretty much there's no way to survive in TWD, so it's pointless to try, and a boat isn't going to help.
  • edited September 2012
    well there 2 types of boats 1 option is to loot a fule powered boat 2nd option is to get a old fasion sail boat aka wind power boat i
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    And the chances of finding either... slim to none. lol

    And if any are there, they're likely so infested as to be unobtainable. (due to previous failed attempts at liberation)
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    Lee: I wonder who the mysterious conductor could be.
    Kenny: Damn it, Lee. You know its me. Go back and keep an eye on Duck and Kat.
    Lee: I was about to tell you the same thing. What do you plan to do now that your son is bitten? Are you going to keep him locked up in the caboose? Should I make some tea for him?
    Kenny: First we gotta get Duck to the boat.
    Lee: AND THEN WHAT? You never think these things through. This is exactly what you said when you you crushed Larry's head. YOU GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD - AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE DAMN BOAT!
    Kenny: I would have figured something out.
    Lee: NO! If not for me, YOUR FAMILY WOULD BE DEAD ALREADY!
    Kenny: It'll never come to that, Lee!
    Lee: It's happening right now!
    Kenny: Stop it Lee! I don't want to do this!
    Lee: I'M BEGGING YOU, KENNY! It's time for you to look inward and start asking yourself the big questions. Who are you and what do YOU want?
    *Kenny yells in frustration and stops the train.*
  • edited September 2012
    Why not just stay anchored close to the shore? Far out enough that walkers can't get to you, and close enough that supply runs are not difficult. And you wouldn't need to use fuel to sail anywhere unless there was some kind of emergency.
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    What if the military will try to get rid of the walkers by bombing the entire country? Lee and the group will need a boat so they can sail away from land and not have the trouble to find shelter in order to survive the bombing.
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    Staying near land seem's a good idea.. You could travel the coastline and look for supplies in smaller towns along the way avoiding larger cities.
    Keeping out of reach of most dangers and if the military did decide to do any bombing, would me mostly safe. Always still having the option to sail away to somewhere new.
    The boat is a temporary solution, but any group will still eventually need to find a place to settle!
  • edited September 2012
    Why not just stay anchored close to the shore? Far out enough that walkers can't get to you, and close enough that supply runs are not difficult. And you wouldn't need to use fuel to sail anywhere unless there was some kind of emergency.

    Other than potential bandits, seems like a pretty decent idea.
  • edited September 2012
    What about Lilly? Maybe she might change her mind and decide to rejoin Lee and the others (depending on the player's relationship to her) if she did manage to escape the walker infested prison.
  • edited September 2012
    nublar93 wrote: »
    What about Lilly? Maybe she might change her mind and decide to rejoin Lee and the others (depending on the player's relationship to her) if she did manage to escape the walker infested prison.
    I doubt that. Are you midly familiar with the comics? She's going to be doing something else.
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