Is Lee's death/zombification inevitable?

This is probably a stupid question since nobody in the Walking Dead universe has survived a walker bite but just curious. Is there no way he can just chop off his hand or does the bite spread very quickly? I just don't want him to die because he seems like the only one who can take care of Clementine and it would seem weird for someone like Kenny to do it. Unless her parents are alive, which I doubt.

Also, how come he wasn't already feeling ill after the bite? Duck started feeling down right after they left the motor inn on the RV while Lee was able to talk normally and make the trip to the morgue to find Clementine.

So yeah, is he hopeless or is there a slim chance the devs will defile the lore and get him cured?
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  • edited October 2012
    He COULD HAVE survived if his left arm had been immediately amputated, but it's been far too long since he was bitten for that to work. The group didn't even have anything to cut it off with, so as soon as that walker broke flesh Lee was a dead man.
  • edited October 2012
    Oh and I forgot to mention, how are they going to replace Lee in the announced second season of the game when everyone's grown attached to him and what not?
  • edited October 2012
    I really hope they don't pull something out of their ass and save Lee.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Lee as a character, and I'd love to see him survive. But Telltale made a choice when he got bitten. There's no turning back...Or at least, there shouldn't be.

    EDIT: I figured the second Season would focus on a different group of Survivors, Juicy.
  • edited October 2012
    This is probably a stupid question since nobody in the Walking Dead universe has survived a walker bite but just curious. Is there no way he can just chop off his hand or does the bite spread very quickly? I just don't want him to die because he seems like the only one who can take care of Clementine and it would seem weird for someone like Kenny to do it. Unless her parents are alive, which I doubt.

    Also, how come he wasn't already feeling ill after the bite? Duck started feeling down right after they left the motor inn on the RV while Lee was able to talk normally and make the trip to the morgue to find Clementine.

    So yeah, is he hopeless or is there a slim chance the devs will defile the lore and get him cured?

    Telltale is keeping trailers and spoilers closed, so it could go either way, they might let Lee not be bit and it was just a scratch from the plywood that was there, or they could let it be as most think a bite and he will die after he of course has saved Clem who will go with Kenny, Christa and Omid

    Which could be seen as justice, he killed someone before the outbreak and now he will "pay" that life back.

    But in my opinion Telltale shoots themselves in the foot with that.

    I dont get it and for me it will ruin the game, if i wanted to have a bad ending, i would just watch real life.
  • edited October 2012
    Oh and I forgot to mention, how are they going to replace Lee in the announced second season of the game when everyone's grown attached to him and what not?

    They are probably going to replace the group and have you be someone else.

    Stupid idea and who ever thought that one up should just bite himself and turn into a zombie :D
  • edited October 2012
    JacUK wrote: »
    Telltale is keeping trailers and spoilers closed, so it could go either way, they might let Lee not be bit and it was just a scratch from the plywood that was there, or they could let it be as most think a bite and he will die after he of course has saved Clem who will go with Kenny, Christa and Omid

    Which could be seen as justice, he killed someone before the outbreak and now he will "pay" that life back.

    But in my opinion Telltale shoots themselves in the foot with that.

    I dont get it and for me it will ruin the game, if i wanted to have a bad ending, i would just watch real life.

    Too bad, it's the apocalypse. Not everything goes your way.
  • edited October 2012
    JacUK wrote: »
    Telltale is keeping trailers and spoilers closed, so it could go either way, they might let Lee not be bit and it was just a scratch from the plywood that was there

    That's an...Awfully odd-shaped Plywood scratch. You know, in several places.

    How exactly would that go? Lee just kinda hangs around and waits to turn, and then eventually thinks "Huh, maybe it was just the plywood. Hey guys, wait up."
  • edited October 2012
    SonnyN18 wrote: »
    Too bad, it's the apocalypse. Not everything goes your way.

    Its a game not a real apocalypse

    And in a game the good guys usually wins.
  • edited October 2012
    Bralef wrote: »
    That's an...Awfully odd-shaped Plywood scratch. You know, in several places.

    How exactly would that go? Lee just kinda hangs around and waits to turn, and then eventually thinks "Huh, maybe it was just the plywood. Hey guys, wait up."

    Ya, well its either that or he is immune.

    it could also just be a dream, he wakes up sitting in the house and next to him his clem sleeping sound.

    Like the one in ep.3 but talk about corny.
  • edited October 2012
    I'm seriously hoping that bite's not fatal. What am I saying? Hell, I just want to Lee to survive.
  • edited October 2012
    JacUK wrote: »
    Its a game not a real apocalypse

    And in a game the good guys usually wins.

    Well in the apocalypse you don't win. This is a more a realistic portrayal of an apocalypse and "winning" isn't realistic.

    "In the end, the dead always win".
  • edited October 2012
    Lee's dead. It's just too clean to kill him at the end of the season. He's a murderer who atoned by raising Clem, but now he must pay the price for his murder, blah blah. Clem lives. Lee dies. No one accuses TWD of a happy ending, and everyone buzzes about how amazing it is that a game killed a protagonist.

    The shock would be killing Clem, not Lee. Then people would say that all the effort they put into raising Clem went to waste.
  • edited October 2012
    I always found it odd for him to get bitten now. Wouldn't it be more reasonable in episode 5. Now it's just making me all depressed knowing that he's a goner. And to know that episode 5 won't come for like 1-2 months... bite me already.
  • edited October 2012
    Lee will die.I don't think its a plywood or dream.I watched on the video and that was definitely the bite from the walker when he grabbed walkie-talkie.

    I liked Lee.The things he have done for Clem,for the group,even for the people he doesn't like(try to save Larry etc.) He was a great character.But not everyone is invincible.We should have seen this coming.There's no happy ending in this apocalypse.

    In ep.5 he has one mission only.He'll save Clem , make sure she has somebody to take care of her,and then die peacefully by killing himself or shot by someone from the group.I think it will be heroic enough...
  • edited October 2012
    Or Clementine will shoot him when he turns...
  • edited October 2012
    My problem with the bite is that NO ONE EVEN RAISED IT AS A POSSIBILITY! It has been established in the comics that Dale has survived a bite by amputation. Yes they did it immediately, but at least they thought of doing it. Here, everyone just says "Well that sucks..." It feels too much like a set-up...
  • edited October 2012
    JacUK wrote: »
    Telltale is keeping trailers and spoilers closed, so it could go either way, they might let Lee not be bit and it was just a scratch from the plywood that was there, or they could let it be as most think a bite and he will die after he of course has saved Clem who will go with Kenny, Christa and Omid

    Which could be seen as justice, he killed someone before the outbreak and now he will "pay" that life back.

    But in my opinion Telltale shoots themselves in the foot with that.

    I dont get it and for me it will ruin the game, if i wanted to have a bad ending, i would just watch real life.

    Wrong franchise, i'm sorry you expected a good ending man :(

    Read afew chapters of the walking dead comic, It isn't leading up to a good ending.
  • edited October 2012
    It's possible that they don't know you can stop the infection by amputating. Not everyone knows how it works, and they haven't met anyone who has survived a bite.
  • edited October 2012
    My theory for the reason why they chose to let Lee get bitten at the climax of Episode 4 is to build up to the Grand Finale. I'm sure it may have crossed their mind to say, 'Hmm, how about we let him get bitten in episode 3?' but then someone would say, 'Alright, that won't work. How can he survive for two whole episodes after without becoming a zombie like Duck did. Hell, he didn't even last 24 hours.' I'm guessing the focus on the last game in this season will be watching as Lee slowly succumbs to zombification, the emotional turmoil that will no-doubt transpire, especially between Clementine and Lee when Clementine realises what's going to happen. The game series wants to mess with your head and draw you in. And it succeeds quite well. Imagine how much it'll draw us in when the 5th rolls about.

    My request?

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASSSSEEEEEEEEE let the violin music play for most of the game????? The music that plays during the sad and melancholic scenes, like after Molly departs. I can't get enough of that music because of how fitting it is.
  • edited October 2012
    I think Lee has to die in order to usher in a new story and characters. In the second season I think we will play as the sheriff or that little Asian guy. But I was very angry when I saw the bite mark.
  • edited October 2012
    My guess is they ALL die except Clem, and in the end she get saved by a new group (her mom might be one of them) wish will appear to be next season group. That might be a good way to link the first and second season.
  • edited October 2012
    I don't really care whether Lee dies or we play as him in the next season. What will piss me off though is if we get a new character and they kill him off as well in the second season to end it off.

    Then it would just feel like a cheap gimmick to be 'edgy' and 'dark'. But that said, bring on episode 5.
  • edited October 2012
    Sheriff or the small Asian guy???
    I hope you're not referring to who I think you're referring to...
  • edited October 2012
    MissDRJ wrote: »
    I think Lee has to die in order to usher in a new story and characters. In the second season I think we will play as the sheriff or that little Asian guy. But I was very angry when I saw the bite mark.

    Telltale will never have us play as Rick or Glenn. That storyline is for the comics and the TV series. They are handling original characters.
  • edited October 2012
    Wrong franchise, i'm sorry you expected a good ending man :(

    Read afew chapters of the walking dead comic, It isn't leading up to a good ending.

    Wrong franchise my ...

    The only problem is gaming developers thinking grimdark/depressing endings are totally cool, artistic, creative and hipster. Just have a look at Mass Effect 3 how great their fabulous grimdark red/blue/green slap to the face ending turned out to be.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with Lee dieing when his death is for a good cause, such as getting the choice to sacrifice himself for Clementine. But since they decided to railroad Lee to death, just like they did with Carley, his inevitable death is just frustrating, lame and boring. This isn't a graphic novel or a movie, this is a computer game after all! Make it interactive, not passive! If The Walking Rollercoaster was a bad game, I wouldn't bother complaining but since it isn't, it's just a shame they dump Lee just like that.

    Intelligent storywriting in computer games is creating depression without frustrating players, instead of just smashing everyone with the pain train they could left the choice of survival or sacrifice to the player. Instead, they sentenced him to death for no reason. This is the Mass Effect-Effect: Knowing your protagonist is going to die no matter what you do just kills off any potential replay value this game ever has. What's the point in playing Episode 5, since Lee's going to end up dead, anyway?
  • edited October 2012
    The point would be to choose to sacrifice yourself to save Clementine instead of choosing the easy way out, which would be resigning yourself to zombi-fication.
    His being bitten will probably take out a bit of the dilemma with sacrificing himself for Clementine - since he's dead anyway. But then again - for me at least - that's not really a dilemma at all.

    Come to think of it - maybe it comes down to sacrificing himself for either Clementine or the group - or Clementine's parent(s) or the group.
  • edited October 2012
    Oh and I forgot to mention, how are they going to replace Lee in the announced second season of the game when everyone's grown attached to him and what not?

    I was honestly more attached to Molly than I was to Lee. I want her to teach me that CQC shit.
  • edited October 2012
    I find it a bit much that Clem deserts Lee, as if he didn't matter. The bleakness of this story line is getting to be a bit much, even for an existentialist like me.

    I'll wager that Lee is going to die and Clem shoots him in the head. Prediction for Episode 5. Any takers?
  • edited October 2012
    Now that I know that Lee is a dead duck I'm gonna rewind and let Ben fall. Lee's dead, so what's the point of letting that cockroach live?

    Besides, Clem deserts Lee and runs off with whoever. C'est la guerre.
  • edited October 2012
    I don't think Clem deserted Lee. I think she was captured. At first we think it's the doctor (can't remember his name), but his voice and the voice on the walkie are definitely not the same. So we're waiting to find out who it was. But Clem would never willingly leave Lee behind. Sure she's headstrong, like when she climbed through the dog door, but there's a huge difference between that and just plain running off. She was taken, and we need to get her back.

    Also, I think Lee was bitten in order to open up new possibilities for the second season. I think we'll be playing as Clem, maybe a few years older and wiser than she is now, and her struggled to survive without Lee to look after her. If any of the other characters from this game are in it too I don't know, we'll see how many of them survive episode 5, but I think Clem will become our main protagonist.
  • ErnErn
    edited October 2012
    I liked the story but can't help but notice telltale has now played our emotions on the 2 guys we only really care about Lee and Clementine. It would have been nice for at least Doug/Carley to still be around.

    then the only interesting new character leaves
  • edited October 2012
    I've just said it in another thread, but as Clems hat is in the yard, it seems likely she simply went out there - perhaps to be alone - and was then approached/kidnapped from there.
    Perhaps she used the walkie-talkie, but she wouldn't leave her hat behind!
  • edited October 2012
    I'm pretty sure Lee is dead meat. It wouldn't be The Walking Dead otherwise. Everything that is based on something Kirkman wrote must spread misery, otherwise he won't be happy.
  • edited October 2012
    ToSch wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Lee is dead meat. It wouldn't be The Walking Dead otherwise. Everything that is based on something Kirkman wrote must spread misery, otherwise he won't be happy.

    Yes but you must think the classic walking dead thing to do would be to kill people you care about around you. NOT YOU. I seriously thought they would kill clem before me just to put that emotion inside you to carry on.
  • edited October 2012
    I certainly didn't expect to get bit like that, I would have preferred a cut-scene where you actually saw yourself get bit. I was shocked as I didn't even see it happen. However since we've lost most of the original group already, having Lee die or get bit always was high on my list of potential risks.

    And to the poster that commented on how developers make their games end the way they want to.....that is why they write the story. Not every ending in games and books end on a happy note. I myself enjoy endings like this from time to time, it gets old always having the happy-happy, joy-joy ending all the time.
  • edited October 2012
    Happy endings are rare in the world we all live in. I don't expect them to be abundant in a world where the dead have risen to chomp on the flesh of the living.

    Anyways, I don't think we've got the creds to be giving TTG storyline writing advice.
    The guy who wrote these episodes is a professional. Wrote Book of Eli and prolly some other stuff. Pretty sure he's more qualified than any armchair critic.
  • edited October 2012
    LokiHavok wrote: »
    Happy endings are rare in the world we all live in. I don't expect them to be abundant in a world where the dead have risen to chomp on the flesh of the living.

    Anyways, I don't think we've got the creds to be giving TTG storyline writing advice.
    The guy who wrote these episodes is a professional. Wrote Book of Eli and prolly some other stuff. Pretty sure he's more qualified than any armchair critic.

    No one is really telling them how to write it. At least I wasn't. I just expected Lee to live and have most around him die. Didn't think that this group would most likely all die in season 1.
  • edited October 2012
    The Walking Dead is pretty grim, and there are few "Happy" moments. So yeah, Lee's Dead.

    I recently watched Season 1 and 2 on Netflix. And am really interested in Season 3. Traditionally I hate Graphic Novels, but I am even thinking about getting those too.
  • edited October 2012
    Its a toss up for me. obviously I want tt to be credible but I want Lee to survive more so. So I think if they added a way for Lee to survive, I wouldnt be upset...ie maybe the zombie that bit him had something special, maybe it didnt fully bite him. I want to watch the scene again and see if its clear the zombie ACTUALLY bit Lee.
  • edited October 2012
    There's a YouTube video floating around somewhere, that someone posted.

    I watched it slowly and it wasn't a very prolonged attacked.
    But you heard a "squished grapes" sort of sound
    WHich pretty much means he truly got bit. Reall juicy-like.
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