I think we'll be playing as Clem, maybe a few years older and wiser than she is now, and her struggled to survive without Lee to look after her. If any of the other characters from this game are in it too I don't know, we'll see how many of them survive episode 5, but I think Clem will become our main protagonist.
I like that concept. That jump would put the game ahead of regular continuity (I've always wondered why the zombies don't decompose over time btw, ending their reign.) but it would mean the game can carry over a character or two who survive in all possible outcomes. Should Clem have a thought back to her past, a season 1 save-game (if present) could colour in the details of her past and give the series a feeling of continuity.
However, they could also just jump to Molly. She left alive and well. *EDIT: Uh, she CAN die apparently, so strike this option.*
I certainly didn't expect to get bit like that, I would have preferred a cut-scene where you actually saw yourself get bit. I was shocked as I didn't even see it happen. However since we've lost most of the original group already, having Lee die or get bit always was high on my list of potential risks.
And to the poster that commented on how developers make their games end the way they want to.....that is why they write the story. Not every ending in games and books end on a happy note. I myself enjoy endings like this from time to time, it gets old always having the happy-happy, joy-joy ending all the time.
The problem being the whole "protagonist dies" endings are kinda overdone themselves nowadays. It's a way to seem edgy and different... yet, there's the fact that the very first known story written in the English language has the protagonist die off. Nowadays, it tends to be kinda lazy in most cases, it's just that sadness is pretty much the easiest emotion to evoke.
The Walking Dead is pretty grim, and there are few "Happy" moments. So yeah, Lee's Dead.
I recently watched Season 1 and 2 on Netflix. And am really interested in Season 3. Traditionally I hate Graphic Novels, but I am even thinking about getting those too.
There's a YouTube video floating around somewhere, that someone posted.
I watched it slowly and it wasn't a very prolonged attacked.
But you heard a "squished grapes" sort of sound
WHich pretty much means he truly got bit. Reall juicy-like.
Yea but that could of been him cutting himself open too no? I kind of find it hard to beleive that your character wouldnt know he was bit until seeing a wound afterwards... like im pretty sure id know if something bit me if i was fighting it...
I'm seriously hoping that bite's not fatal. What am I saying? Hell, I just want to Lee to survive.
Yeah, because wasn't it Ben who said "it's not the bite that gets you."
I mean in this game have we ever seen anyone take a wound from a Zombie and not die, or take a scratch or anything of that nature and not die outright?
Usually when one take the first bite they get dragged down or pulled and that's end of story.
I don't think Lee is gonna die. Or...he might and then when he dies Clem is finally reunited with her mother and it is is Clem who has to put a bullet in his head.
I am only pissed about the lack of choice. I made sure to check to boxes before touching that Walkie and I am sure the same thing happens if you just grab the Walkie. At some point you need to wonder, what part of episode 4 was even a game? Felt more like waiting for the story to unfold.
I am only pissed about the lack of choice. I made sure to check to boxes before touching that Walkie and I am sure the same thing happens if you just grab the Walkie. At some point you need to wonder, what part of episode 4 was even a game? Felt more like waiting for the story to unfold.
Lack of choices. What bloody choices would there be to pick? Die or not die? What kind of idiot picks die?
Yeah, because wasn't it Ben who said "it's not the bite that gets you."
I mean in this game have we ever seen anyone take a wound from a Zombie and not die, or take a scratch or anything of that nature and not die outright?
Usually when one take the first bite they get dragged down or pulled and that's end of story.
I don't think Lee is gonna die. Or...he might and then when he dies Clem is finally reunited with her mother and it is is Clem who has to put a bullet in his head.
Oh...how..dramatic!
It's not the bite that turns you into a zombie, but the bite still kills you, and once you're dead you come back as undead. It killed Duck, or would have if we let it, and in the TV show we see a couple characters die from being bit and then coming back.
I know its hard to think he dies.I know he killed a person...But there a lot of worse people like this ''people'' in this epi 4! I think he need a 2 chance...i will feel bad if he dies
Well I liked where this is going i think telltale have written one of the best games this year with this game. As for the lack of choice in major plot points which has always been a complaint i think it works like this if you truly had freedom of choice this would be an MMO i mean seriously people how would they drive the story if we truly got to decide everything.
I mean how many people would want to go to Savanna, it just wouldnt work as a game, so they have to make the major plot points driving the story un avoidable other wise we'd still have people in the motor-inn
I dont get it and for me it will ruin the game, if i wanted to have a bad ending, i would just watch real life.
So... I take it you haven't read the comics, watched the show, or played any of the episodes other than this one then? Walking Dead is not a franchise where people's stories end happily.
Also, how come he wasn't already feeling ill after the bite? Duck started feeling down right after they left the motor inn on the RV while Lee was able to talk normally and make the trip to the morgue to find Clementine.
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But in the morgue he was bent over the table & looked to be getting quite ill already.
I really don’t think he’s going to die. They’re probably going to put in an ending which will just add more twists to the plot. If they DO kill him, then they will probably just have Clementine as the next protagonist. But still, I don’t believe that Lee will actually die.
Some might not agree with me. But we’ll just play the waiting game until November.
I think Lee will die. I've read the comics and this isn't a happy-ending kind of story. Lee's fate is pretty much sealed. We know what's going to happen. You can be in disbelief like Kenny was about Duck, all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that he's been bitten and that bites are fatal unless immediately amputated, which he didn't do.
Perhaps his story will end with him knowing that Clem gets saved or that her mom really is alive or that he can leave her with someone to protect her before he dies.
It's possible that they don't know you can stop the infection by amputating. Not everyone knows how it works, and they haven't met anyone who has survived a bite.
I know, but it just felt like something was left hanging there. Like it could have been just a suggestion that was reasoned away. However, it is not even thought about. Whereas the show and the comic have done amputation at least once to address the point to some degree (and apparently we will see the result of Merle's amputation next season).
I dunno, it wouldn't feel so weird if it wasn't being sold as "well, that's that and nothing you can do now" situation without someone trying to reason it out. Kenny tried to reason a way to deal with Duck's bite, they tried to help Irene find an alternate solution before ultimately deciding yes or no to shoot her. It just seemed like they gave up very easy.
Lee's a goner, which sucks. I really don't feel like rewinding and playing out different responses now, which I did a # of times with the first 3 episodes, albeit not so much in ep.3.
The whole thing has a shelf-life for me; Kirkman is clearly a nihilist and seemingly is happiest when his readers are bummed out. I'm an optimist at heart and I can only delve into "this is a sad story and there is no happy ending" for a little while. I'm not expecting airy-fairy sunshine and unicorns, but the bleakness and lack of humor (even gallows humor) gets a bit much after all.
If you look at the episode 5 titles, 3 of them are "the marsh house" (the place clementine's parents normally go in savannah), "stay close to me" and "what remains." To me it sounds like Lee does decide to try to find her parents now that he knows he will turn. Then either 1) clementine also gets bit (maybe even by her turned parents, as in episode 1 her mom said her fater was "attacked by some strange man at the hotel and is in the er") and lee and her stay together to turn, or 2) lee asks her to stay with him for just a little longer before he turns to say goodbye. Then the group leaves on the boat in the "what remains" finale, looking back at savannah from the boat.
It just makes a bit of sense to me to do it either way. The group didn't know about amputation, and lee's already showing symptoms of illness which means it's too late. He's going to die otherwise it completely goes against kirkman's eatablished rules. All we need to figure out is how it will all go down.
I have a feeling episode 5 will have a continued timer and that lee will die. If you look at the cover picture (clem standing over a dead body) and the name for that episode (no time left) it kinda fits.
In that case, I suppose you'd be fine if he just died from a stray bullet in the first episode?
No because then there wouldn't be episodes 2-5, so if Telltale did that, there would be some legal problems. If someone else died from a stray bullet, then yes I would be perfectly fine with that.
Heck, it DID happen, that is how Doug dies if you save him.
Oh and I forgot to mention, how are they going to replace Lee in the announced second season of the game when everyone's grown attached to him and what not?
Oh and I forgot to mention, how are they going to replace Lee in the announced second season of the game when everyone's grown attached to him and what not?
They're probably going to set the season 2's protagonist as Clem as I've predicted some time ago.. They already announced that our saves from s1 will be imported into s2..
I'm really sad to see I guessed right about Lee..
Oh and I forgot to mention, how are they going to replace Lee in the announced second season of the game when everyone's grown attached to him and what not?
The exact same way this game used Lee when everyone was used to Rick...
I dunno, it wouldn't feel so weird if it wasn't being sold as "well, that's that and nothing you can do now" situation without someone trying to reason it out. Kenny tried to reason a way to deal with Duck's bite, they tried to help Irene find an alternate solution before ultimately deciding yes or no to shoot her. It just seemed like they gave up very easy.
Perhaps that's why they gave up so easily with Lee; they'd already seen how bites work. Duck was the first bite victim of the group, and as much as Kenny tried/hoped, there wasn't anything they could do. When they shot Duck, they had to have come to terms with the fact that bites are fatal.
Plus, they weren't exactly in a hurry with Duck, aside from getting the train started. Lee got bitten right after he realized Clementine was taken. As he said, there wasn't really any time to worry about him when Clementine was in danger.
Im not one to cry or argue about killing Lee off, but I have to admit, the scene where Lee was bitten just makes me wonder.
Maybe just me, but during that scene, I just didnt see Lee react to a 'bite' not like it hurt.. and the bite mark, to me, almost looked more like the walkers bloody teethmarks but didnt break the skin. I'm not not 100% convinced it was a real bite!
I think proably 99% chance it was, just the way the scene played out!
But then why would Lee have the option to hide or reveal the bite?
I think in following the whole ZA, it's more than reasonable our hero dies, that im good with it.. Just cant help but wonder if there's a slight chance for a twist!
It sucks that Lee has been bit. But every good thing has to end. I wish it hadnt happened but at the same time Im ok with it. I am along for the ride and its going to be really interesting!
Yeah, considering Lee never reacted to the bite until AFTER he saw blood, and not really a bite mark, you never know. But if that was a bite, Lee is dead. Only hope is that Lee is blind along with being clumsy, but that seems like a horrible ending. "Oh wait guys, not a bite, whoops!"
Yeah, considering Lee never reacted to the bite until AFTER he saw blood, and not really a bite mark, you never know. But if that was a bite, Lee is dead. Only hope is that Lee is blind along with being clumsy, but that seems like a horrible ending. "Oh wait guys, not a bite, whoops!"
Yeah, plus, how would they figure that out? There's no set time period for infection or anything. Even if it turned out not to be a bite, Lee would probably have been left behind/shot himself before he figured it out.
i would just like to see lee live some how, forget all that crap on how it wouldn't be realistic or true to the comic i just hope they do it in some way that isn't like "i say that coming" sort of way like it was a dream he was having when he fell asleep and it ends with lee, clem and all the people u let on the boat riding off into the river because if it ends with lee just dieing then what was the point in having kenny and the whole group risking their lives for getting suppiles for the boat and omid. which brings to another question maybe season 2 is with the same characters traveling west because going to crawford would have been for nothing if lee just dies trying or after he saves clem
i would just like to see lee live some how, forget all that crap on how it wouldn't be realistic or true to the comic i just hope they do it in some way that isn't like "i say that coming" sort of way like it was a dream he was having when he fell asleep and it ends with lee, clem and all the people u let on the boat riding off into the river because if it ends with lee just dieing then what was the point in having kenny and the whole group risking their lives for getting suppiles for the boat and omid. which brings to another question maybe season 2 is with the same characters traveling west because going to crawford would have been for nothing if lee just dies trying or after he saves clem
I think it's kind of pointless to kill off Lee, but whatever. If you guys didn't see this coming then shame on you.
Alot of us saw this coming around Episode 1.. Sure it was all just a guess then how the season would end, so I'm not surprised at all.. It's just that the way the scene was done, leaves it open for speculation!
If TT had made it a close-up of the walker ripping away a huge chunk of Lee's wrist and he yelled, we wouldnt be having this discussion!
1) Chop off his arm and hope he survives the shock of it
2) Somebody has a cure
#2 Is highly unlikely
#1 is more believeble and possible an it also can get him to season 2 atleast for the first episode of it cause like i said he has to battle the shock and fever that comes with choping off his arm.
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I like that concept. That jump would put the game ahead of regular continuity (I've always wondered why the zombies don't decompose over time btw, ending their reign.) but it would mean the game can carry over a character or two who survive in all possible outcomes. Should Clem have a thought back to her past, a season 1 save-game (if present) could colour in the details of her past and give the series a feeling of continuity.
However, they could also just jump to Molly. She left alive and well. *EDIT: Uh, she CAN die apparently, so strike this option.*
The problem being the whole "protagonist dies" endings are kinda overdone themselves nowadays. It's a way to seem edgy and different... yet, there's the fact that the very first known story written in the English language has the protagonist die off. Nowadays, it tends to be kinda lazy in most cases, it's just that sadness is pretty much the easiest emotion to evoke.
Yea but that could of been him cutting himself open too no? I kind of find it hard to beleive that your character wouldnt know he was bit until seeing a wound afterwards... like im pretty sure id know if something bit me if i was fighting it...
Yeah, because wasn't it Ben who said "it's not the bite that gets you."
I mean in this game have we ever seen anyone take a wound from a Zombie and not die, or take a scratch or anything of that nature and not die outright?
Usually when one take the first bite they get dragged down or pulled and that's end of story.
I don't think Lee is gonna die. Or...he might and then when he dies Clem is finally reunited with her mother and it is is Clem who has to put a bullet in his head.
Oh...how..dramatic!
Lack of choices. What bloody choices would there be to pick? Die or not die? What kind of idiot picks die?
It's not the bite that turns you into a zombie, but the bite still kills you, and once you're dead you come back as undead. It killed Duck, or would have if we let it, and in the TV show we see a couple characters die from being bit and then coming back.
I mean how many people would want to go to Savanna, it just wouldnt work as a game, so they have to make the major plot points driving the story un avoidable other wise we'd still have people in the motor-inn
So... I take it you haven't read the comics, watched the show, or played any of the episodes other than this one then? Walking Dead is not a franchise where people's stories end happily.
But in the morgue he was bent over the table & looked to be getting quite ill already.
Some might not agree with me. But we’ll just play the waiting game until November.
Perhaps his story will end with him knowing that Clem gets saved or that her mom really is alive or that he can leave her with someone to protect her before he dies.
I know, but it just felt like something was left hanging there. Like it could have been just a suggestion that was reasoned away. However, it is not even thought about. Whereas the show and the comic have done amputation at least once to address the point to some degree (and apparently we will see the result of Merle's amputation next season).
I dunno, it wouldn't feel so weird if it wasn't being sold as "well, that's that and nothing you can do now" situation without someone trying to reason it out. Kenny tried to reason a way to deal with Duck's bite, they tried to help Irene find an alternate solution before ultimately deciding yes or no to shoot her. It just seemed like they gave up very easy.
The whole thing has a shelf-life for me; Kirkman is clearly a nihilist and seemingly is happiest when his readers are bummed out. I'm an optimist at heart and I can only delve into "this is a sad story and there is no happy ending" for a little while. I'm not expecting airy-fairy sunshine and unicorns, but the bleakness and lack of humor (even gallows humor) gets a bit much after all.
It just makes a bit of sense to me to do it either way. The group didn't know about amputation, and lee's already showing symptoms of illness which means it's too late. He's going to die otherwise it completely goes against kirkman's eatablished rules. All we need to figure out is how it will all go down.
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In that case, I suppose you'd be fine if he just died from a stray bullet in the first episode?
No because then there wouldn't be episodes 2-5, so if Telltale did that, there would be some legal problems. If someone else died from a stray bullet, then yes I would be perfectly fine with that.
Heck, it DID happen, that is how Doug dies if you save him.
easily fixed by changing all the characters
They're probably going to set the season 2's protagonist as Clem as I've predicted some time ago.. They already announced that our saves from s1 will be imported into s2..
I'm really sad to see I guessed right about Lee..
The exact same way this game used Lee when everyone was used to Rick...
Perhaps that's why they gave up so easily with Lee; they'd already seen how bites work. Duck was the first bite victim of the group, and as much as Kenny tried/hoped, there wasn't anything they could do. When they shot Duck, they had to have come to terms with the fact that bites are fatal.
Plus, they weren't exactly in a hurry with Duck, aside from getting the train started. Lee got bitten right after he realized Clementine was taken. As he said, there wasn't really any time to worry about him when Clementine was in danger.
Maybe just me, but during that scene, I just didnt see Lee react to a 'bite' not like it hurt.. and the bite mark, to me, almost looked more like the walkers bloody teethmarks but didnt break the skin. I'm not not 100% convinced it was a real bite!
I think proably 99% chance it was, just the way the scene played out!
But then why would Lee have the option to hide or reveal the bite?
I think in following the whole ZA, it's more than reasonable our hero dies, that im good with it.. Just cant help but wonder if there's a slight chance for a twist!
agreed!
Yeah, plus, how would they figure that out? There's no set time period for infection or anything. Even if it turned out not to be a bite, Lee would probably have been left behind/shot himself before he figured it out.
Alot of us saw this coming around Episode 1.. Sure it was all just a guess then how the season would end, so I'm not surprised at all.. It's just that the way the scene was done, leaves it open for speculation!
If TT had made it a close-up of the walker ripping away a huge chunk of Lee's wrist and he yelled, we wouldnt be having this discussion!
1) Chop off his arm and hope he survives the shock of it
2) Somebody has a cure
#2 Is highly unlikely
#1 is more believeble and possible an it also can get him to season 2 atleast for the first episode of it cause like i said he has to battle the shock and fever that comes with choping off his arm.